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Chicago’s newly armed residents send murder rate plummeting

 
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Murders in the Windy City have plummeted since the Illinois legislature enacted its concealed weapon carry law, and the state Supreme Court upheld a person’s right to carry firearms outside the home.

The Chicago Police Department posted the city’s 2014 first quarter crime figures Tuesday, indicating the lowest number of homicides since 1958, according to local ABC affiliate Eyewitness 7 News, which reported:


The first three months of the year saw 6 fewer murders than the same time frame in 2013–a 9 percent drop–and 55 fewer murders than 2012, according to a statement from Chicago Police.

There were 90 fewer shootings and 119 fewer shooting victims, drops of 26 and 29 percent respectively, according to police statistics. Compared to the first quarter of 2012, there have been 222 fewer shootings and 292 fewer shooting victims.


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furry shooter criminals and thugs

works every place it's tried...kinda like tax cuts

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“When state concealed handgun laws went into effect in a county, murders fell by 8.5 percent, and rapes and aggravated assaults fell by 5 and 7 percent.” More guns mean less crime.

Gary Kleck, PhD., also a gun crime expert, found that the crime deterrence effect of firearms possession is significant: sophisticaed statistics suggest three to four * crimes are stopped by a handgun than are committed in the United States every year
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* think it should read 3 to 4 times as many are stopped

Last Edited by Founders Fan on 04/05/2014 07:26 PM
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Glad to hear this good news!
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Glad to hear this good news!
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those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up
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It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing.
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It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing.
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If the numbers had gone up you would say it was the cold weather that drove them to it. Is talking out of your ass fun for you?
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those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up
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This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though.
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My friend who had a garage in Cleveland's East side, told how he had to plug three coons who walked into his place....uninvited. They were rolling around on the ground screaming like little black cunts.
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this is super-pined because?
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I guess they do just kill eachother off after a while
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those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up
 Quoting: TwitcH


This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though.
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The first three months of the year saw 6 fewer murders than the same time frame in 2013–a 9 percent drop–and 55 fewer murders than 2012, according to a statement from Chicago Police.
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Not against the conceal carry law but the statistics you provide show that the big change occurred during the first quarter of 2013 when then were 49 fewer murders than 2012. This was a year prior to the conceal carry law.

1st quarter 2010; 75 murders
1st quarter 2011: 75 murders
1st quarter 2012: 120 murders
1st quarter 2013: 71 murders (41% decrease from prior year!)
1st quarter 2014: 65 murders (9% decrease from prior year)

Also based on the limited sample size 2012 appears to be an anomaly.

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[link to articles.chicagotribune.com]
From Jan. 1 through April 1 this year, 120 homicides were recorded in Chicago, up sharply from 75 in the same period in both 2011 and 2010,



One star for misrepresenting the data.
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those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up
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This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though.
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Chicks with guns are sexy!
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It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing.
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True; this will NOT end well.
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It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing.
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True; this will NOT end well.
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the weather doesn't change the fact that people can now defend themselves

once a few thugs get whacked while trying to bully someone the word will get out fast not to fuck with people anymore
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I live in Chicago and I dont know about these numbers/ Maybe in the suburbs but in the city ...people get shot everyday. SO i dont believe this article at all.
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I live in Chicago and I dont know about these numbers/ Maybe in the suburbs but in the city ...people get shot everyday. SO i dont believe this article at all.
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It didn't say people stopped getting killed. It said the numbers have dropped
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Someone needs to tell NY and NJ.
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I live in Chicago and I dont know about these numbers/ Maybe in the suburbs but in the city ...people get shot everyday. SO i dont believe this article at all.
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Chicongo media DOES NOT tell the truth, where do you get your info from? 95% of crime in Chicongo is negro but you never even get perp descriptions in the media.
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It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing.
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You could argue the exact opposite, claiming the added stresses associated with extreme cold, ice and snow would lead to more aggravation and aggression, sending the murder rate up, especially among those confined to close quarters.
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those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up
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This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Chicks with guns are sexy!
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Well alright then.....

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It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing.
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If the numbers had gone up you would say it was the cold weather that drove them to it. Is talking out of your ass fun for you?
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I think the point is that the drive to disarm the people will never stop until there is a necktie party for those that deserve it and anyone that publicly supports the "underlying" goals.
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those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up
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This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Chicks with guns are sexy!
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Well alright then.....

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