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Founders Fan
(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/05/2014 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | criminals and thugs works every place it's tried...kinda like tax cuts people everywhere deserve the divine right of self preservation If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/05/2014 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “When state concealed handgun laws went into effect in a county, murders fell by 8.5 percent, and rapes and aggravated assaults fell by 5 and 7 percent.” More guns mean less crime. Gary Kleck, PhD., also a gun crime expert, found that the crime deterrence effect of firearms possession is significant: sophisticaed statistics suggest three to four * crimes are stopped by a handgun than are committed in the United States every year. * think it should read 3 to 4 times as many are stopped Last Edited by Founders Fan on 04/05/2014 07:26 PM If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/05/2014 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/05/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | damn right If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/06/2014 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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User ID: 34510652 United States 04/06/2014 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up Quoting: TwitcH This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though. |
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User ID: 56468907 United States 04/06/2014 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up Quoting: TwitcH This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though. Chicks with guns are sexy! "The Tree of Liberty is Thirsty and needs Watering" -Me |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45237142 United States 04/06/2014 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first three months of the year saw 6 fewer murders than the same time frame in 2013–a 9 percent drop–and 55 fewer murders than 2012, according to a statement from Chicago Police. Quoting: Founders Fan Not against the conceal carry law but the statistics you provide show that the big change occurred during the first quarter of 2013 when then were 49 fewer murders than 2012. This was a year prior to the conceal carry law. 1st quarter 2010; 75 murders 1st quarter 2011: 75 murders 1st quarter 2012: 120 murders 1st quarter 2013: 71 murders (41% decrease from prior year!) 1st quarter 2014: 65 murders (9% decrease from prior year) Also based on the limited sample size 2012 appears to be an anomaly. Source: [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] From Jan. 1 through April 1 this year, 120 homicides were recorded in Chicago, up sharply from 75 in the same period in both 2011 and 2010, One star for misrepresenting the data. |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/06/2014 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up Quoting: TwitcH This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though. Chicks with guns are sexy! If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/06/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing. Quoting: Da Stranger True; this will NOT end well. the weather doesn't change the fact that people can now defend themselves once a few thugs get whacked while trying to bully someone the word will get out fast not to fuck with people anymore If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/06/2014 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Chicago and I dont know about these numbers/ Maybe in the suburbs but in the city ...people get shot everyday. SO i dont believe this article at all. Quoting: SevenS 53168180 It didn't say people stopped getting killed. It said the numbers have dropped If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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User ID: 9491757 United States 04/06/2014 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in Chicago and I dont know about these numbers/ Maybe in the suburbs but in the city ...people get shot everyday. SO i dont believe this article at all. Quoting: SevenS 53168180 Chicongo media DOES NOT tell the truth, where do you get your info from? 95% of crime in Chicongo is negro but you never even get perp descriptions in the media. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32853214 United States 04/06/2014 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing. Quoting: Da Stranger You could argue the exact opposite, claiming the added stresses associated with extreme cold, ice and snow would lead to more aggravation and aggression, sending the murder rate up, especially among those confined to close quarters. |
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User ID: 56416714 United States 04/06/2014 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up Quoting: TwitcH This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though. Chicks with guns are sexy! Well alright then..... 7 Billion people on the planet! That's a BIG number! And I am one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47341221 United States 04/06/2014 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was too cold in Chicago this winter for gang members to go out and do their thing. Quoting: Da Stranger If the numbers had gone up you would say it was the cold weather that drove them to it. Is talking out of your ass fun for you? I think the point is that the drive to disarm the people will never stop until there is a necktie party for those that deserve it and anyone that publicly supports the "underlying" goals. |
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(OP) User ID: 12469703 United States 04/06/2014 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those numbers are skewed because of our horrible winter just wait till summer they will shoot the city up Quoting: TwitcH This is actually a true statement. I work for a hospital in detroit, and we observe the same trend. We're actually thinking this might be a bad summer, because of the harsh winter... We'll see though. Chicks with guns are sexy! Well alright then..... If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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