Understanding Mythology and How It's Used For Psychological Warfare: The Joker | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21716115 Australia 06/10/2014 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Trickster, (or disruptive imagination) is what makes culture according to Lewis Hyde in Trickster Makes this World. Goes from Prometheus to coyote gods and more. First few chapters here: [link to www.nytimes.com] Fits with what you're saying I think. Disruptive imagination is what they are trying to kill off and hold back. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17856444 United States 06/10/2014 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Trickster, (or disruptive imagination) is what makes culture according to Lewis Hyde in Trickster Makes this World. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21716115 Goes from Prometheus to coyote gods and more. First few chapters here: [link to www.nytimes.com] Fits with what you're saying I think. Disruptive imagination is what they are trying to kill off and hold back. "And yet, as the Loki story indicates, trickster can also get snared in his own devices." I hate this world and all the hidden things that must remain hidden. "For I have many things I wish to tell you, but I cannot, for you cannot bear them." I hate the mirror image, for it dregs up that which is hidden in darkness, which should not have been in darkness to begin with, and I love it at the same time, for it exposes the darkness. It's all complete folly and meaningless, and yet it is the beginning of wisdom. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 51162359 United States 06/10/2014 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Trickster, (or disruptive imagination) is what makes culture according to Lewis Hyde in Trickster Makes this World. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21716115 Goes from Prometheus to coyote gods and more. First few chapters here: [link to www.nytimes.com] Fits with what you're saying I think. Disruptive imagination is what they are trying to kill off and hold back. Thanks. Very interesting indeed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21716115 Australia 06/10/2014 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Trickster, (or disruptive imagination) is what makes culture according to Lewis Hyde in Trickster Makes this World. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21716115 Goes from Prometheus to coyote gods and more. First few chapters here: [link to www.nytimes.com] Fits with what you're saying I think. Disruptive imagination is what they are trying to kill off and hold back. "And yet, as the Loki story indicates, trickster can also get snared in his own devices." I hate this world and all the hidden things that must remain hidden. "For I have many things I wish to tell you, but I cannot, for you cannot bear them." I hate the mirror image, for it dregs up that which is hidden in darkness, which should not have been in darkness to begin with, and I love it at the same time, for it exposes the darkness. It's all complete folly and meaningless, and yet it is the beginning of wisdom. Wise. Where is the darkness truly, though? True darkness is the absence of all possibility, which I can't see anywhere in the material universe. On the other side, you have non-being - which for mine is actually infinite possibility. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17856444 United States 06/10/2014 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Trickster, (or disruptive imagination) is what makes culture according to Lewis Hyde in Trickster Makes this World. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21716115 Goes from Prometheus to coyote gods and more. First few chapters here: [link to www.nytimes.com] Fits with what you're saying I think. Disruptive imagination is what they are trying to kill off and hold back. "And yet, as the Loki story indicates, trickster can also get snared in his own devices." I hate this world and all the hidden things that must remain hidden. "For I have many things I wish to tell you, but I cannot, for you cannot bear them." I hate the mirror image, for it dregs up that which is hidden in darkness, which should not have been in darkness to begin with, and I love it at the same time, for it exposes the darkness. It's all complete folly and meaningless, and yet it is the beginning of wisdom. Wise. Where is the darkness truly, though? True darkness is the absence of all possibility, which I can't see anywhere in the material universe. On the other side, you have non-being - which for mine is actually infinite possibility. Finally, a wise reply. But ironic as it is, I am too inebriated to assemble a well-thought-out reply, only to say that we are to be wise as serpents (knowledge/wisdom) and harmless as doves (children/faith). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 51162359 United States 06/10/2014 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Trickster, (or disruptive imagination) is what makes culture according to Lewis Hyde in Trickster Makes this World. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21716115 Goes from Prometheus to coyote gods and more. First few chapters here: [link to www.nytimes.com] Fits with what you're saying I think. Disruptive imagination is what they are trying to kill off and hold back. Someone else I was talking to about this tied it to the Fool, something that I have known about, but their description was rather apt. This link to the Trickster and the Fool got me thinking. Especially, after it was discussed whether the Joker archetype is a deliberate perversion of the Fool. Here is what I came up with. They deliberately desecrate the image of the Fool with the Joker because they do not like people charting their own paths. Instead they are firm believers in keeping their enemies close. What better way to do that than to plot people's courses for them and completely obliterate them when they take a new direction that does not fit any of the preconceived patterns that they have developed methods of proper handling? In a sense, the game, or the rat race itself, is a trap, and those who are "foolish" and seek to set off on uncharted paths, which do not lie within the design of the maze, will fall prey to some of the worst traps of all, those that have been set at the boundaries of the existences that they have determined are acceptable for their subjects to have. Are we at a time when they are worried that their prey are developing an increased intelligence that will allow for virtually any of them to walk off on the Fool's path, thereby overturning the entire game board on them, effectively causing them to lose the advantages that such a maze was designed to allow them to maintain? |