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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67625435  United Kingdom02/04/2015 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gerald Schroeder is a scientist with over thirty years of experience in research and teaching. He earned his Bachelor's, Master's, and Doctorate degrees all at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, with his doctorate thesis being under the supervision of physics professor Robley D. Evans. This was followed by five years on the staff of the MIT physics department prior to moving to Israel, where he joined the Weizmann Institute of Science and then the Volcani Research Institute, while also having a laboratory at The Hebrew University. His Doctorate is in two fields: Earth sciences and physics. Quoting: Exemplar While there is an alternating or bipolar force or energy at play...Electricity is neither a god or devil nor is it hierarchical or polarised or linear..but does cyclically and chaotically influence, affect, create, take and recycle all elemental matter into new bipolar light to dark matter forms and expressions...and back again Ironically all within a natural infinity loop...or infinity cycle process...which is clearly observeable and replicated at all scales throughout the cosmos....calling it a god the creator or father and bowing down to it are just some of the infinite options and choice open to any of its recycling byproducts. Whatever the creative force is....it is naturally and conditionally bipolar and therefore alternating and opposing...so always going to be eternally chaotic and seemingly repetitive...whether we believe, disbelieve, bow down or not. But it certainly doesnt have the capacity to care one way or the other....because it has the natural capacity to be all things..good and bad or positive or negative...and the infinite possiblities inbetween between the light and dark epochs. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67696852 United States02/04/2015 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is WHO GOD IS: WHO IS JESUS? JOHN 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. WHERE IS JESUS NOW? 1 JOHN 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. WHAT DOES GOD THE FATHER SAY ABOUT HIS SON? HEBREWS 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Jesus Christ sits right this very minute, NEXT TO God the Father. He is glorified in Heaven. He is God Almighty, Seek Him before it is eternally too late. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67689707  Germany02/04/2015 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is WHO GOD IS: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67696852 WHO IS JESUS? JOHN 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. WHERE IS JESUS NOW? 1 JOHN 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. WHAT DOES GOD THE FATHER SAY ABOUT HIS SON? HEBREWS 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Jesus Christ sits right this very minute, NEXT TO God the Father. He is glorified in Heaven. He is God Almighty, Seek Him before it is eternally too late. Blah. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67371458 United Kingdom02/04/2015 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does god have a god? If this man thinks that's a logical argument, then he's an idiot. You can't use time to argue if the chicken or the egg came first, it's nonsensical and cyclical. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67371458 If god can just exist from nothing, so can man. That's some crazy logic you have there...... |
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User ID: 59409631 United States02/04/2015 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A religious scientist thinks he finds existence of god. That is surprising, NOT. He says hard line atheists believe his theory that god exists. Where is the empirical data to support that statement? 1. He says, "The Universe had a beginning, the bible got that right". That is profound, no one realized the Universe had a beginning before the bible was written. 2. Science agrees with the biblical definition of god? Science agrees? Is this Mr. Science that works in the cubicle next to his or did science as a whole give him a call one day and express this? I would like to the empirical data on this as well. 3. There is only one nuance left (he doesn't say what) and we can talk about that another time. well, that convinces me! 4. The fact that I am watching a youtube video proves their is an active god in the universe? That is some sound science right there! As the light of knowledge increases so does the circumference of darkness which surrounds it. Have a laugh - Original marijuana comics strips, comic books and more! [link to superdoobie.com] Freemason at large, taking over your world one truth at a time. Suffering this life for mistakes made in previous incarnations. Next time I will not fail. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67689707 Germany02/04/2015 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A religious scientist thinks he finds existence of god. Quoting: Super Doobie That is surprising, NOT. He says hard line atheists believe his theory that god exists. Where is the empirical data to support that statement? 1. He says, "The Universe had a beginning, the bible got that right". That is profound, no one realized the Universe had a beginning before the bible was written. 2. Science agrees with the biblical definition of god? Science agrees? Is this Mr. Science that works in the cubicle next to his or did science as a whole give him a call one day and express this? I would like to the empirical data on this as well. 3. There is only one nuance left (he doesn't say what) and we can talk about that another time. well, that convinces me! 4. The fact that I am watching a youtube video proves their is an active god in the universe? That is some sound science right there!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15496 United States02/04/2015 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A religious scientist thinks he finds existence of god. Quoting: Super Doobie That is surprising, NOT. He says hard line atheists believe his theory that god exists. Where is the empirical data to support that statement? [link to www.nizkor.org] 1. He says, "The Universe had a beginning, the bible got that right". Quoting: Super Doobie That is profound, no one realized the Universe had a beginning before the bible was written. [link to www.nizkor.org] 2. Science agrees with the biblical definition of god? Science agrees? Is this Mr. Science that works in the cubicle next to his or did science as a whole give him a call one day and express this? Quoting: Super Doobie I would like to the empirical data on this as well. [link to www.nizkor.org] 3. There is only one nuance left (he doesn't say what) and we can talk about that another time. Quoting: Super Doobie well, that convinces me! [link to www.nizkor.org] 4. The fact that I am watching a youtube video proves their is an active god in the universe? Quoting: Super Doobie That is some sound science right there! [link to www.nizkor.org] No comments on the substance of the video itself, only criticisms of ancillary issues. I like herring on salad, not in debate. Baloney sandwich.  |
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User ID: 59409631 United States02/04/2015 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A religious scientist thinks he finds existence of god. Quoting: Super Doobie That is surprising, NOT. He says hard line atheists believe his theory that god exists. Where is the empirical data to support that statement? [link to www.nizkor.org] 1. He says, "The Universe had a beginning, the bible got that right". Quoting: Super Doobie That is profound, no one realized the Universe had a beginning before the bible was written. [link to www.nizkor.org] 2. Science agrees with the biblical definition of god? Science agrees? Is this Mr. Science that works in the cubicle next to his or did science as a whole give him a call one day and express this? Quoting: Super Doobie I would like to the empirical data on this as well. [link to www.nizkor.org] 3. There is only one nuance left (he doesn't say what) and we can talk about that another time. Quoting: Super Doobie well, that convinces me! [link to www.nizkor.org] 4. The fact that I am watching a youtube video proves their is an active god in the universe? Quoting: Super Doobie That is some sound science right there! [link to www.nizkor.org] No comments on the substance of the video itself, only criticisms of ancillary issues. I like herring on salad, not in debate. Baloney sandwich. So, all I did was quote the guy in the video, are you saying everything he said is a red herring comment and total bullshit? There was absolutely NO SUBSTANCE to comment on. I am glad we agree on this!  EDIT: I commented on exactly what he said. Nothing ancillary about that. Last Edited by Super Doobie on 02/04/2015 11:49 AM As the light of knowledge increases so does the circumference of darkness which surrounds it. Have a laugh - Original marijuana comics strips, comic books and more! [link to superdoobie.com] Freemason at large, taking over your world one truth at a time. Suffering this life for mistakes made in previous incarnations. Next time I will not fail. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 594210 United States02/04/2015 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, all I did was quote the guy in the video, are you saying everything he said is a red herring comment and total bullshit? Quoting: Super Doobie There was absolutely NO SUBSTANCE to comment on. Oh I don't know, how about the actual subject of the video? You clearly rely upon logical fallacies, which are a kind of deception. Rather than engaging in the main point of the video, you picked apart little comments that are only ancillary to the discussion and which in no way bear any weight upon the substance of the discussion. This is a classic red herring tactic. If you are doing it accidentally, it happens, I've done it. Admit it, learn from it, and move on. If you are doing it on purpose, you are being deceptive. Either way, I'm not interested in talking to someone who relies upon fallacy. Good day. Does anyone else wish to point out flaws in the main points made in the video? |
| Super Doobie
User ID: 59409631 United States02/04/2015 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, all I did was quote the guy in the video, are you saying everything he said is a red herring comment and total bullshit? Quoting: Super Doobie There was absolutely NO SUBSTANCE to comment on. Oh I don't know, how about the actual subject of the video? You clearly rely upon logical fallacies, which are a kind of deception. Rather than engaging in the main point of the video, you picked apart little comments that are only ancillary to the discussion and which in no way bear any weight upon the substance of the discussion. This is a classic red herring tactic. If you are doing it accidentally, it happens, I've done it. Admit it, learn from it, and move on. If you are doing it on purpose, you are being deceptive. Either way, I'm not interested in talking to someone who relies upon fallacy. Good day. Does anyone else wish to point out flaws in the main points made in the video? Subject of video: Scientist explains conclusive scientific evidence of god that even hard line atheists agree with. He did not explain conclusively that god exists and that hard line atheists agree. My comments were showing he exactly did not do that. No deception on my part. What video did you watch? Or did you even watch it all? Get off your religious high horse. Your comments are meant to take away from the obvious that I pointed out and move attention to your complaints about my post. You are the only one of us using Red Herring tactics. Nice try though, but I have a logical mind, it didn't work. As the light of knowledge increases so does the circumference of darkness which surrounds it. Have a laugh - Original marijuana comics strips, comic books and more! [link to superdoobie.com] Freemason at large, taking over your world one truth at a time. Suffering this life for mistakes made in previous incarnations. Next time I will not fail. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 594210 United States02/04/2015 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, all I did was quote the guy in the video, are you saying everything he said is a red herring comment and total bullshit? Quoting: Super Doobie There was absolutely NO SUBSTANCE to comment on. Oh I don't know, how about the actual subject of the video? You clearly rely upon logical fallacies, which are a kind of deception. Rather than engaging in the main point of the video, you picked apart little comments that are only ancillary to the discussion and which in no way bear any weight upon the substance of the discussion. This is a classic red herring tactic. If you are doing it accidentally, it happens, I've done it. Admit it, learn from it, and move on. If you are doing it on purpose, you are being deceptive. Either way, I'm not interested in talking to someone who relies upon fallacy. Good day. Does anyone else wish to point out flaws in the main points made in the video? Subject of video: Scientist explains conclusive scientific evidence of god that even hard line atheists agree with. He did not explain conclusively that god exists and that hard line atheists agree. My comments were showing he exactly did not do that. No deception on my part. What video did you watch? Or did you even watch it all? Get off your religious high horse. Your comments are meant to take away from the obvious that I pointed out and move attention to your complaints about my post. You are the only one of us using Red Herring tactics. Nice try though, but I have a logical mind, it didn't work. I am no longer speaking with you, Super Doobie. To everyone else: Did you notice what he did? He totally ignored the main point of the video, and brought up several ancillary points which had zero impact on the substance of the video itself. This kind of deception is called a "red herring." "A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. (..) Also Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase." [link to www.nizkor.org] If you watch the video, the scientist is saying that before the origin of the Universe there were laws of nature that pre-existed the Universe. That's the main point. Super Doobie did not make one mention of this point. Not one. No comment about how such laws came into being, no comment on whether the speaker is mistaken that the laws didn't exist, none of that. Just picking apart little comments that were made along the way. I recommend you avoid interacting with someone who relies upon such deception. Which sadly, is like most atheists I've talked with. This is a common tactic with atheists; Why? Because they are not required to use honest rhetoric, that's why. They have permitted themselves to do or say whatever is necessary to get you to agree with them.  |
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| Super Doobie
User ID: 59409631 United States02/04/2015 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, all I did was quote the guy in the video, are you saying everything he said is a red herring comment and total bullshit? Quoting: Super Doobie There was absolutely NO SUBSTANCE to comment on. Oh I don't know, how about the actual subject of the video? You clearly rely upon logical fallacies, which are a kind of deception. Rather than engaging in the main point of the video, you picked apart little comments that are only ancillary to the discussion and which in no way bear any weight upon the substance of the discussion. This is a classic red herring tactic. If you are doing it accidentally, it happens, I've done it. Admit it, learn from it, and move on. If you are doing it on purpose, you are being deceptive. Either way, I'm not interested in talking to someone who relies upon fallacy. Good day. Does anyone else wish to point out flaws in the main points made in the video? Subject of video: Scientist explains conclusive scientific evidence of god that even hard line atheists agree with. He did not explain conclusively that god exists and that hard line atheists agree. My comments were showing he exactly did not do that. No deception on my part. What video did you watch? Or did you even watch it all? Get off your religious high horse. Your comments are meant to take away from the obvious that I pointed out and move attention to your complaints about my post. You are the only one of us using Red Herring tactics. Nice try though, but I have a logical mind, it didn't work. I am no longer speaking with you, Super Doobie. To everyone else: Did you notice what he did? He totally ignored the main point of the video, and brought up several ancillary points which had zero impact on the substance of the video itself. This kind of deception is called a "red herring." "A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. (..) Also Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase." [link to www.nizkor.org] If you watch the video, the scientist is saying that before the origin of the Universe there were laws of nature that pre-existed the Universe. That's the main point. Super Doobie did not make one mention of this point. Not one. No comment about how such laws came into being, no comment on whether the speaker is mistaken that the laws didn't exist, none of that. Just picking apart little comments that were made along the way. I recommend you avoid interacting with someone who relies upon such deception. Which sadly, is like most atheists I've talked with. This is a common tactic with atheists; Why? Because they are not required to use honest rhetoric, that's why. They have permitted themselves to do or say whatever is necessary to get you to agree with them. I am not an atheist. I do not believe in YOUR god or your religion. My posts are based on facts. Deal with it. Last Edited by Super Doobie on 02/04/2015 01:26 PM As the light of knowledge increases so does the circumference of darkness which surrounds it. Have a laugh - Original marijuana comics strips, comic books and more! [link to superdoobie.com] Freemason at large, taking over your world one truth at a time. Suffering this life for mistakes made in previous incarnations. Next time I will not fail. |
