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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41452638 United States 04/04/2015 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks OP. I wonder how many derivatives are tied to a possible Greek default? That could rip across the global banking system. It is not what is owed, it is the leverage of derivatives and counter party risk that is the issue. Gee the banksters might not get paid? Go Greece! 5* and a pin request. this is important. |
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User ID: 67790386 United States 04/04/2015 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'We are a Left-wing government. If we have to choose between a default to the IMF or a default to our own people, it is a no-brainer,' says senior Greek official Quoting: danes1 [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] And THAT Lady's & Gentleman is why it's all fucked up. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill |
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User ID: 48442288 France 04/04/2015 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'We are a Left-wing government. If we have to choose between a default to the IMF or a default to our own people, it is a no-brainer,' says senior Greek official Quoting: danes1 [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] My thoughts on this are different. I wonder if the EU/IMF will give in and accept whatever payment Tsipras will agree to make - a little rather than nothing at all. Everything is possible at this stage. I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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User ID: 68819664 Japan 04/04/2015 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope they do leave the EU. The entire mess is a classic case of prisoners dilemma anyway. First one out May very well be the "winner" when it's all said and done. Just look at how Iceland recovered after NOT bailing out the banksters back in 2008/2009. Bowing to the IMF/ECB and remaining debt slaves has very little hope (if any) of ending well. At least an exit has options and gives them back a measure of control. ...like a splinter in your mind |
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User ID: 68373023 United States 04/04/2015 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks OP. I wonder how many derivatives are tied to a possible Greek default? That could rip across the global banking system. It is not what is owed, it is the leverage of derivatives and counter party risk that is the issue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41452638 Gee the banksters might not get paid? Go Greece! 5* and a pin request. this is important. Going to really impact the CDO and CDS markets...someone is gonna have to pay!!! About to find out if the reserves that those banks have held back are going to be enough... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 04/04/2015 11:33 AM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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User ID: 48442288 France 04/04/2015 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67792561 Canada 04/04/2015 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you happen to be the worlds reserve currency and can print money all day long while exporting the inflation to 3rd world shitholes like Greece. Spot on. Just to further clarify....the socialism statement is correct AND the fact that the US can manipulate themselves to look good is also correct. Capitalism died another death when the US bailed out the banks....hopefully US citizens see beyond the BS on TV stating everything is fine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31820363 United States 04/04/2015 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'We are a Left-wing government. If we have to choose between a default to the IMF or a default to our own people, it is a no-brainer,' says senior Greek official Quoting: danes1 [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] And THAT Lady's & Gentleman is why it's all fucked up. I'm not a leftwing fan, but we had rightwing governments that were directly responsible for multiple economic collapses, including in 2008-2009. These governments (along with leftwing governments) bailed out the people who caused the collapse, no one went to prison, and today they're doing the samething all over again, and living extremely large while most are being squeezed left, right, and center. We in the U.S. have a socialist system....primarily for the elite and wealthy. The majority live under a 'free market' and 'free trade' system, and are nickle and dimed to death by corporate America, 'conservative' governments, AND 'progressives' (liberals- leftist). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25956544 United States 04/04/2015 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope they do leave the EU. The entire mess is a classic case of prisoners dilemma anyway. First one out May very well be the "winner" when it's all said and done. Just look at how Iceland recovered after NOT bailing out the banksters back in 2008/2009. Quoting: TransientAPO Bowing to the IMF/ECB and remaining debt slaves has very little hope (if any) of ending well. At least an exit has options and gives them back a measure of control. Euro is in trouble because of the PIGS. Portugal Italy Greece Spain Time to face reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68031823 Canada 04/04/2015 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope they do leave the EU. The entire mess is a classic case of prisoners dilemma anyway. First one out May very well be the "winner" when it's all said and done. Just look at how Iceland recovered after NOT bailing out the banksters back in 2008/2009. Quoting: TransientAPO Bowing to the IMF/ECB and remaining debt slaves has very little hope (if any) of ending well. At least an exit has options and gives them back a measure of control. Euro is in trouble because of the PIGS. Portugal Italy Greece Spain Time to face reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31820363 United States 04/04/2015 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope they do leave the EU. The entire mess is a classic case of prisoners dilemma anyway. First one out May very well be the "winner" when it's all said and done. Just look at how Iceland recovered after NOT bailing out the banksters back in 2008/2009. Quoting: TransientAPO Bowing to the IMF/ECB and remaining debt slaves has very little hope (if any) of ending well. At least an exit has options and gives them back a measure of control. Euro is in trouble because of the PIGS. Portugal Italy Greece Spain Time to face reality. The Euro is a shitstorm waiting to happen. It will only work with a full political union (not going to happen) with every EU 'country' willing to subsidize other EU 'countries' if need be. The USD works because the US is a single political-economic (and social) entity. And in the US there are in-fact sone states that give more $ to the federal government than get back, while there are others that are subsidized by the federal government. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31820363 United States 04/04/2015 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62729487 It's ______ or get off the pot time. They new leaders talked all this trash and were voted in to leave a long time ago. This grexit saga bores me. We in the US have more debt than they do. Will we have an Amexit? The US has far more going for it than Greece, and the huge GDP chugs along. And most, by far most, US debt is domestic, not foreign. I think some people think foreigners own most US debt; not by a , long shot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62729487 United States 04/04/2015 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62729487 It's ______ or get off the pot time. They new leaders talked all this trash and were voted in to leave a long time ago. This grexit saga bores me. We in the US have more debt than they do. Will we have an Amexit? The US has far more going for it than Greece, and the huge GDP chugs along. And most, by far most, US debt is domestic, not foreign. I think some people think foreigners own most US debt; not by a , long shot. It's all good until the dollar is no longer accepted. Not a matter of if, but when. When this happens, what is going on in Greece will look like a night out with the most beautiful woman in the world as compared to what we will have to face. Think about that whole longshoreman dispute back in January, except this time the ships will simply not show up in the first place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68792244 United States 04/04/2015 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62729487 It's ______ or get off the pot time. They new leaders talked all this trash and were voted in to leave a long time ago. This grexit saga bores me. We in the US have more debt than they do. Will we have an Amexit? The US has far more going for it than Greece, and the huge GDP chugs along. And most, by far most, US debt is domestic, not foreign. I think some people think foreigners own most US debt; not by a , long shot. Also, despite the huge deficits it is quite feasible that if the US actually had to live off just revenue that it would be possible. Military spending and social programs would be cut all to hell, but the truth is that our spending is full of pork and that revenue actually currently covers well over half of all expenditures. |