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I still would like to be famous. Probably for selfish reasons. Being rich I dont care about, so much.
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I'd hate it and no amount money or any material object, would make it worth it.

Fame can also happen much by accident or an embarrassing moment and become a viral meme that ruin people's lives. Or from crimes being committed and people dying.


The older I get the more I want to isolate myself from society/people completely. It's a clown show and we are slowly seeing the visible chains of our authoritarian future.
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There was a moment yesterday after the school shooting, where I was scrolling through the photos, and I got to one that was taken from a helicopter. It was of a girl being put into an ambulance.

What made the photo bizarre is she was looking right at the camera. My initial read of her face and situation was her knowing how many people were currently looking at her in that state.

Her day started normal enough. Now her face is everywhere for day. Sad.
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Thread: Hospital Privacy Curtains Found Saturated with Deadly Superbugs

Hospitals are dangerous, deadly places, and new research finds that MRSA superbugs contaminate nearly 90 percent of hospital privacy curtains

"the research team tracked contamination rates for 10 newly laundered privacy curtains in the Regional Burns/Plastics Unit of the Health Services Center in Winnipeg, Canada over a 21-day period. Virtually contamination-free at the outset, by day 14, over 87 percent of the curtains tested positive for MRSA. Control curtains that were not put in patient rooms remained contamination free for the entire study period.

Interestingly – and scarily – none of the patients in the rooms where the curtains were tested had MRSA themselves. Instead, the contamination occurred on parts of the curtains that were frequently touched by caregivers and visitors, suggesting that it was this direct contact that was spreading the disease."

less than 50%
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Why people are still encouraged to visit 'loved ones' in the hospital..I will never understand.
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Thread: MSM: Superbugs pose greater threat than previously estimated

Drug-resistant bacteria and fungi cause almost 3 million infections and 35,000 deaths a year, the CDC reports.


Drug-resistant germs sicken about 3 million people every year in the United States and kill about 35,000, representing a much larger public health threat than previously understood, according to a long-awaited report released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new estimates show that, on average, someone in the United States gets an antibiotic-resistant infection every 11 seconds, and every 15 minutes, someone dies.

Bacteria, fungi and other germs that have developed a resistance to antibiotics and other drugs pose one of the gravest public health challenges and a baffling problem for modern medicine.

Scientists, doctors and public health officials have warned of this threat for decades, and the new report reveals the top dangers and troubling trends. More pathogens are developing new ways of fending off drugs designed to kill them, and infections are spreading more widely outside of hospitals. No new classes of antibiotics have been introduced in more than three decades.



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My doctor says we have maybe 5 to 7 years until antibiotics are useless.

Sure hope they can make some new ones.
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Chain smoking...too many Twinkies and the depression inherent in comedy.


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I was mostly getting at that fame is a curse.. and our comedians funnies come from a place of pain.
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Fame is not a curse if it's a byproduct of you resounding in many minds while creating a string of ideas that give you pearly gobs of bliss.

Fame is a curse when you are creating ever weaker echoes of something long dead.

It's becomes a lifesucking demon.

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Who really ever escapes fame?

Of any sort..


Is '5 minutes of Fame' the virus of today?


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Simple...I said it quite explicitly..those who continue with their own train of thought long after the crowds disperse.
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I was mostly getting at that fame is a curse.. and our comedians funnies come from a place of pain.
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Fame is not a curse if it's a byproduct of you resounding in many minds while creating a string of ideas that give you pearly gobs of bliss.

Fame is a curse when you are creating ever weaker echoes of something long dead.

It's becomes a lifesucking demon.

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Who really ever escapes fame?

Of any sort..


Is '5 minutes of Fame' the virus of today?


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Simple...I said it quite explicitly..those who continue with their own train of thought long after the crowds disperse.
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Is that what happened to Michael Jackson or Tesla?
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Fame is not a curse if it's a byproduct of you resounding in many minds while creating a string of ideas that give you pearly gobs of bliss.

Fame is a curse when you are creating ever weaker echoes of something long dead.

It's becomes a lifesucking demon.

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Who really ever escapes fame?

Of any sort..


Is '5 minutes of Fame' the virus of today?


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Simple...I said it quite explicitly..those who continue with their own train of thought long after the crowds disperse.
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Is that what happened to Michael Jackson or Tesla?
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That's quite the bipolar cross section. Tesla died an old man summarily forgotten. MJ never had a choice as he was more an alter than a person.

There are a lot of whatever happened to articles that would likely make my point.
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Simple...I said it quite explicitly..those who continue with their own train of thought long after the crowds disperse.
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Is that what happened to Michael Jackson or Tesla?
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That's quite the bipolar cross section. Tesla died an old man summarily forgotten. MJ never had a choice as he was more an alter than a person.

There are a lot of whatever happened to articles that would likely make my point.
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When I read your post I was reminded of the scene in The Prestige when Tesla talks about his fame. That's why I included him.

Michael Jackson looked like a monster by the time he died. He was not well in any shape or form and many over looked his bizarre behaviors. He had known fame since childhood.

I do understand that people leave and move away from fame, probably for the reasons both you and I mentioned. But it doesn't take much to recall someone in memory.


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Rented Deprogrammed last night. Still chewing on it.

Learned about this guy..


Sun Myung Moon

Sun Myung Moon was a Korean religious leader, also known for his business ventures and support for political causes.

A messiah claimant, he was the founder of the Unification movement (members of which considered him and his wife Hak Ja Han to be their "True Parents"), and of its widely noted "Blessing" or mass wedding ceremony, and the author of its unique theology the Divine Principle. He was an opponent of communism and an advocate for Korean reunification, for which he was recognized by the governments of both North and South Korea.

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^^

Something about these two vids broke something in my brain and my dissonance lifted for a time.
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lol
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limile new roommate is a plant! she's not no daisy! lol
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In all the years you never offered any form of a name I could call you.

:P

Wutnow?
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In all the years you never offered any form of a name I could call you.

:P

:Wutnow?:
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what i'm not, doesn't matter! lol
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What is THE defining characteristic of a cult?

hmm



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What is THE defining characteristic of a cult?


Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, who once taught at Harvard Medical School, wrote a paper titled Cult Formation in the early 1980s. He delineated three primary characteristics, which are the most common features shared by destructive cults.

1. A charismatic leader, who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose power. That is a living leader, who has no meaningful accountability and becomes the single most defining element of the group and its source of power and authority.

2. A process [of indoctrination or education is in use that can be seen as] coercive persuasion or thought reform [commonly called "brainwashing"].

The culmination of this process can be seen by members of the group often doing things that are not in their own best interest, but consistently in the best interest of the group and its leader.

Lifton's seminal book Thought Reform and Psychology of Totalism explains this process in considerable detail.

3. Economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.

The destructiveness of groups called cults varies by degree, from labour violations, child abuse, medical neglect to, in some extreme and isolated situations, calls for violence or mass suicide.

Some groups that were once seen as "cults" have historically evolved to become generally regarded as religions. Power devolved from a single leader to a broader church government and such groups ceased to be seen as simply personality-driven and defined by a single individual. For example the Seventh-day Adventists, once led by Ellen White, or the Mormons church founded by Joseph Smith.

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What is THE defining characteristic of a cult?


Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, who once taught at Harvard Medical School, wrote a paper titled Cult Formation in the early 1980s. He delineated three primary characteristics, which are the most common features shared by destructive cults.

1. A charismatic leader, who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose power. That is a living leader, who has no meaningful accountability and becomes the single most defining element of the group and its source of power and authority.

2. A process [of indoctrination or education is in use that can be seen as] coercive persuasion or thought reform [commonly called "brainwashing"].

The culmination of this process can be seen by members of the group often doing things that are not in their own best interest, but consistently in the best interest of the group and its leader.

Lifton's seminal book Thought Reform and Psychology of Totalism explains this process in considerable detail.

3. Economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.

The destructiveness of groups called cults varies by degree, from labour violations, child abuse, medical neglect to, in some extreme and isolated situations, calls for violence or mass suicide.

Some groups that were once seen as "cults" have historically evolved to become generally regarded as religions. Power devolved from a single leader to a broader church government and such groups ceased to be seen as simply personality-driven and defined by a single individual. For example the Seventh-day Adventists, once led by Ellen White, or the Mormons church founded by Joseph Smith.

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Uighyur woman forced to marry a Chinese party official. State sanctioned sexual slavery
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Netizens outraged by 'gene washing' wedding between Chinese man and Uyghur woman
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What is THE defining characteristic of a cult?

hmm



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its leader! lol
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Uighyur woman forced to marry a Chinese party official. State sanctioned sexual slavery
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Her face though..


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Ted Patrick

As one of the pioneers of deprogramming, Patrick used a 'confrontational' method:

When you deprogram people, you force them to think.... But I keep them off balance and this forces them to begin questioning, to open their minds. When the mind gets to a certain point, they can see through all the lies that they've been programmed to believe. They realize that they've been duped and they come out of it. Their minds start working again.
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^^

This one is available for rent on Amazon.

Might watch this one tonight.
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Rented Deprogrammed last night. Still chewing on it.

Learned about this guy..


Sun Myung Moon

Sun Myung Moon was a Korean religious leader, also known for his business ventures and support for political causes.

A messiah claimant, he was the founder of the Unification movement (members of which considered him and his wife Hak Ja Han to be their "True Parents"), and of its widely noted "Blessing" or mass wedding ceremony, and the author of its unique theology the Divine Principle. He was an opponent of communism and an advocate for Korean reunification, for which he was recognized by the governments of both North and South Korea.

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Thread: Megachurch Pastor Tries To Justify His Lavish Lifestyle

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What is THE defining characteristic of a cult?

hmm



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its leader! lol
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What is THE defining characteristic of a cult?


Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, who once taught at Harvard Medical School, wrote a paper titled Cult Formation in the early 1980s. He delineated three primary characteristics, which are the most common features shared by destructive cults.

1. A charismatic leader, who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose power. That is a living leader, who has no meaningful accountability and becomes the single most defining element of the group and its source of power and authority.

2. A process [of indoctrination or education is in use that can be seen as] coercive persuasion or thought reform [commonly called "brainwashing"].

The culmination of this process can be seen by members of the group often doing things that are not in their own best interest, but consistently in the best interest of the group and its leader.

Lifton's seminal book Thought Reform and Psychology of Totalism explains this process in considerable detail.

3. Economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.

The destructiveness of groups called cults varies by degree, from labour violations, child abuse, medical neglect to, in some extreme and isolated situations, calls for violence or mass suicide.

Some groups that were once seen as "cults" have historically evolved to become generally regarded as religions. Power devolved from a single leader to a broader church government and such groups ceased to be seen as simply personality-driven and defined by a single individual. For example the Seventh-day Adventists, once led by Ellen White, or the Mormons church founded by Joseph Smith.

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Mass Games (North Korea) 'A state of mind'


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flexibility

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Umpteen times..

My mom says that too. She's the only one I know that says that.. until now.



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Did you watch Westworld?
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That's the thing about both experience and reference.

It either makes sense or it doesn't.

Laugh and the world laughs with you..


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you have only posted those particular videos upteen times!

when people sabotage themselves, it is a way of making themselves a victim in a scenario that they themselves construct! lol
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1dunno1

True. Maybe there is a reason you have not picked up on.

Maybe you don't know everything going on..or maybe you choose to ignore it. Either way..I'm not going down because you don't see it.

Say what you will.
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Simple...I said it quite explicitly..those who continue with their own train of thought long after the crowds disperse.
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Is that what happened to Michael Jackson or Tesla?
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That's quite the bipolar cross section. Tesla died an old man summarily forgotten. MJ never had a choice as he was more an alter than a person.

There are a lot of whatever happened to articles that would likely make my point.
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When I read your post I was reminded of the scene in The Prestige when Tesla talks about his fame. That's why I included him.

Michael Jackson looked like a monster by the time he died. He was not well in any shape or form and many over looked his bizarre behaviors. He had known fame since childhood.

I do understand that people leave and move away from fame, probably for the reasons both you and I mentioned. But it doesn't take much to recall someone in memory.


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global governance and the physiology of persuasion go hand in hand
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Sleight of hand..more like.


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long week
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Longer now. &#128514;
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List of Jewish messiah claimants
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^^

Look how many there are.

Huh.

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It was something that struck me in the Mormon Manson documentary. These men have 'visions' and then claim to be 'the messiah' or the chosen one.

His brother, the one he had killed, is still viewed in that manner in the group.


It just all seems so silly now. All of it. Devious too. The dissonance is gone though. I feel like I see it clearer now that I'm on the outside. At least for now.
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Why are some people's visions considered valid and true, while anyone else that claims that 'God talks to them in words' are considered raving lunatics with advanced schizophrenia?

What is the difference between the obviously insane, and Joseph Smith?

Is there one?

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Is the illusion so much more comfortable than stark reality? Yes.

Will humans wither and die without belief in a meaning or reasoning to any of this?

Is it laziness or passing the buck to worship a 'leader' or messiah?

I notice the males claimants like going by some version of 'father'..


Is it the devious taking advantage of the gullible? Or do they really believe they are divine? And why would anyone believe them?

Are messiahs and saints the same?


I recall AGC saying all the saints were possessed and that is how they performed their miracles..

Also, the in exorcism is it usually the Holy Spirit that is ousted and leaves a hole for any spirit to haunt.

Does asceticism lead to activation? Or possession?

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