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Veresanctus
(OP) User ID: 67954328 United States05/25/2015 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think. I know. If you will, it's like asking me whether or not I think, while I'm eating a strawberry, if it's juicy. I don't think, because I have direct experience of it. I know, because I'm eating it. I also know you're one with God. The only difference between the two of us is that you're not aware that you're eating a strawberry, too. Were you the One who said Jesus is Not Only way ? What Do you make of The Bible ? No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. What you say is deception plain and simple. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God who died in our place so that we may be saved from damnation/death/destruction and have everlasting life. GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Priest King User ID: 62886748 United States05/25/2015 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think. I know. If you will, it's like asking me whether or not I think, while I'm eating a strawberry, if it's juicy. I don't think, because I have direct experience of it. I know, because I'm eating it. I also know you're one with God. The only difference between the two of us is that you're not aware that you're eating a strawberry, too. Were you the One who said Jesus is Not Only way ? What Do you make of The Bible ? No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. Were are You getting your information ? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. Quoting: Priest King 62876800 Either misquoted, misunderstood, or spoken during a time in Jesus' enlightenment in which he truly believed he was the only to whom the I Am is available. I Am (is) the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father but by it (I Am). Had nothing to do with a man named Jesus. Everything to do with who you really are. I Am, and nothing more than that. Anything else is a fiction. seems your ego is offended even by the thought of such... pity you'd rather reference He who gave all for you, personally, inclusive of the very breath of life within both body and soul... as "it" rather than He and He above all has a name to be remembered, in truth Jesus, the man, existed as someone unique in his particular location, in his particular time, who went through the process of enlightenment. Unfortunately, his story has been taken so out of context, and so often far too literally and led us into a situation where, through generations of confusion, we believe what Jesus experienced to be something not only outside of ourselves, but something that hundreds, thousands, probably millions throughout human history, have come to realize about themselves. We idolize a man, and separate ourselves from our own truth, as a result. I Am is who you are, who I am, genderless, pure potential, the silence between the notes and the notes themselves, the space between form and the form itself. |
| Veresanctus
(OP) User ID: 67954328 United States05/25/2015 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really wish people would watch the video instead of just responding in ignorance. GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 I don't think. I know. If you will, it's like asking me whether or not I think, while I'm eating a strawberry, if it's juicy. I don't think, because I have direct experience of it. I know, because I'm eating it. I also know you're one with God. The only difference between the two of us is that you're not aware that you're eating a strawberry, too. Were you the One who said Jesus is Not Only way ? What Do you make of The Bible ? No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. Were are You getting your information ? Experience, realization, but mostly nowhere. It just arises. |
| Daedalus2
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really wish people would watch the video instead of just responding in ignorance. Quoting: Veresanctus I watched most of the video, but admittedly turned it off when it continually deified the man Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with a man named Jesus. And even the man named Jesus doesn't have any ownership over it or any claim to it. Frankly, his message is extremely similar, if not identical, to Krishna or Laozi or Buddha. It's obvious, when you can open your mind enough to see it. I reject anything that places a man as a source of "saving" of anyone. Everything Jesus was and experienced, you also are and could experience, in a heartbeat, with faith as small as a grain of sand. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 I don't think. I know. If you will, it's like asking me whether or not I think, while I'm eating a strawberry, if it's juicy. I don't think, because I have direct experience of it. I know, because I'm eating it. I also know you're one with God. The only difference between the two of us is that you're not aware that you're eating a strawberry, too. Were you the One who said Jesus is Not Only way ? What Do you make of The Bible ? No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. What you say is deception plain and simple. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God who died in our place so that we may be saved from damnation/death/destruction and have everlasting life. Who told you that? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69210691  Finland05/25/2015 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if you may be into the occult or some "religion" or even an atheist, and you don't believe this stuff, just please consider this possible TRUTH which is also LIFE... Quoting: Veresanctus Please, just watch this video, time is very short... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I did not make this video While it is true that Jesus Christ is the one and only true Savior. My questions to you are: 1] What do you mean by "time is very short"? 2] What happens when 'time runs out'? 1. There is very little time left to repent and be saved 2. Judgement Day I know you've been taught that from christendom (I was as well) but here is the Scriptural truth of the matter. You, nor I, nor anyone else is in control of who gets saved in this age. Only God Himself is in control of that despite the false doctrine of 'free will' we've all been taught. God and God ALONE is 100% sovereign and all is going exactly as He planned from the very beginning. Judgement day and the 'lake of fire' is indeed Scriptural however the purpose of it or what it will accomplish is NOTHING like what christendom has taught us. |
| Veresanctus
(OP) User ID: 67954328 United States05/25/2015 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really wish people would watch the video instead of just responding in ignorance. Quoting: Veresanctus I watched most of the video, but admittedly turned it off when it continually deified the man Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with a man named Jesus. And even the man named Jesus doesn't have any ownership over it or any claim to it. Frankly, his message is extremely similar, if not identical, to Krishna or Laozi or Buddha. It's obvious, when you can open your mind enough to see it. I reject anything that places a man as a source of "saving" of anyone. Everything Jesus was and experienced, you also are and could experience, in a heartbeat, with faith as small as a grain of sand. The scriptures which was written long before you and I were born say otherwise. When you make things up you open yourself to deception of yourself. Jesus was a man yes but He is ALSO God and the creator and sustainer of the universe whereas all things consist but the Word of God who is He. GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Priest King User ID: 62886748 United States05/25/2015 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Priest King 62886748 Were you the One who said Jesus is Not Only way ? What Do you make of The Bible ? No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. Were are You getting your information ? Experience, realization, but mostly nowhere. It just arises. So you admit your information comes from Yourself . Can you really trust yourself and do you really think your smarter superior to everyone else and there information . Why is what your saying correct and what I'm saying wrong and do you not see a problem with cherry picking different religious holy books and writing and combining them as you see fit ? Whoa mouth full there .. Bear with me |
| Veresanctus
(OP) User ID: 67954328 United States05/25/2015 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Priest King 62886748 Were you the One who said Jesus is Not Only way ? What Do you make of The Bible ? No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. What you say is deception plain and simple. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God who died in our place so that we may be saved from damnation/death/destruction and have everlasting life. Who told you that? The Word of God which in contrary to what you say GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Veresanctus
(OP) User ID: 67954328 United States05/25/2015 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if you may be into the occult or some "religion" or even an atheist, and you don't believe this stuff, just please consider this possible TRUTH which is also LIFE... Quoting: Veresanctus Please, just watch this video, time is very short... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I did not make this video While it is true that Jesus Christ is the one and only true Savior. My questions to you are: 1] What do you mean by "time is very short"? 2] What happens when 'time runs out'? 1. There is very little time left to repent and be saved 2. Judgement Day I know you've been taught that from christendom (I was as well) but here is the Scriptural truth of the matter. You, nor I, nor anyone else is in control of who gets saved in this age. Only God Himself is in control of that despite the false doctrine of 'free will' we've all been taught. God and God ALONE is 100% sovereign and all is going exactly as He planned from the very beginning. Judgement day and the 'lake of fire' is indeed Scriptural however the purpose of it or what it will accomplish is NOTHING like what christendom has taught us. The Word of God has taught me not "christendom" as you say. Last Edited by Veresanctus on 05/25/2015 05:19 PM GET SAVED: Thread: Are you SAVED from DAMNATION? "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69326100 United States05/25/2015 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. Quoting: Priest King 62876800 Either misquoted, misunderstood, or spoken during a time in Jesus' enlightenment in which he truly believed he was the only to whom the I Am is available. I Am (is) the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father but by it (I Am). Had nothing to do with a man named Jesus. Everything to do with who you really are. I Am, and nothing more than that. Anything else is a fiction. New age Garbage . Why can you Trust the Bible Click Link [link to youtu.be (secure)] Because I trust my personal experience, my heart, the void, the nothing, above anything else. Because I walked the same path that Jesus walked. Because I know who I am. And I know who you are. The only thing that makes us different is that you don't know, and that doesn't even make us different; it makes you confused. those who put their faith in the void, the nothing and in themselves above all, all around will come up empty handed in more ways then one in future tense when they find the bulk of their inheritance consists of nothing more than such... good for you eh? got what you wanted after all nothing, and plenty of it and no one to share it with in truth |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really wish people would watch the video instead of just responding in ignorance. Quoting: Veresanctus I watched most of the video, but admittedly turned it off when it continually deified the man Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with a man named Jesus. And even the man named Jesus doesn't have any ownership over it or any claim to it. Frankly, his message is extremely similar, if not identical, to Krishna or Laozi or Buddha. It's obvious, when you can open your mind enough to see it. I reject anything that places a man as a source of "saving" of anyone. Everything Jesus was and experienced, you also are and could experience, in a heartbeat, with faith as small as a grain of sand. The scriptures which was written long before you and I were born say otherwise. When you make things up you open yourself to deception of yourself. Jesus was a man yes but He is ALSO God and the creator and sustainer of the universe whereas all things consist but the Word of God who is He. I wasn't born, and I won't die. This body in which awareness is centered will die, but I never will. Nor will you. This is what "everlasting life" means, and it's not worth much unless you realize it for yourself. In any case, scriptures that were written long before these bodies were formed and shaped were written by people who received understanding for the time in which they found themselves. The kernel of truth couched in some of the scriptures remains, but it will *sound* different when it's spoken during our times. And in no way will the words, no matter when they were spoken, be Truth in and of themselves. Clinging to old words is like hoarding your own feces. It's best eat them, digest them, and then leave them far away from you afterwards, never to be dug back up and eaten again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really wish people would watch the video instead of just responding in ignorance. Quoting: Veresanctus I watched most of the video, but admittedly turned it off when it continually deified the man Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with a man named Jesus. And even the man named Jesus doesn't have any ownership over it or any claim to it. Frankly, his message is extremely similar, if not identical, to Krishna or Laozi or Buddha. It's obvious, when you can open your mind enough to see it. I reject anything that places a man as a source of "saving" of anyone. Everything Jesus was and experienced, you also are and could experience, in a heartbeat, with faith as small as a grain of sand. The scriptures which was written long before you and I were born say otherwise. When you make things up you open yourself to deception of yourself. Jesus was a man yes but He is ALSO God and the creator and sustainer of the universe whereas all things consist but the Word of God who is He. I wasn't born, and I won't die. This body in which awareness is centered will die, but I never will. Nor will you. This is what "everlasting life" means, and it's not worth much unless you realize it for yourself. In any case, scriptures that were written long before these bodies were formed and shaped were written by people who received understanding for the time in which they found themselves. The kernel of truth couched in some of the scriptures remains, but it will *sound* different when it's spoken during our times. And in no way will the words, no matter when they were spoken, be Truth in and of themselves. Clinging to old words is like hoarding your own feces. It's best eat them, digest them, and then leave them far away from you afterwards, never to be dug back up and eaten again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. What you say is deception plain and simple. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God who died in our place so that we may be saved from damnation/death/destruction and have everlasting life. Who told you that? The Word of God which in contrary to what you say How do you know it's the word of god? Who told you that? What proof do you have that it is? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69326100 United States05/25/2015 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 14:6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. Quoting: Priest King 62876800 Either misquoted, misunderstood, or spoken during a time in Jesus' enlightenment in which he truly believed he was the only to whom the I Am is available. I Am (is) the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father but by it (I Am). Had nothing to do with a man named Jesus. Everything to do with who you really are. I Am, and nothing more than that. Anything else is a fiction. It does no good to make up your own reality because after all it's fake as in not true. Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God (meaning he is 100% God and 100% man in one) who died for everyone and rose again and defeated death. He is the ONLY one who has done this and the only one who could have done it. This means he is the ONLY WAY to salvation. If you don't "agree" or "like" it then that would be very unfortunate. Honey, you're making up your own reality, based on things you've heard from other people. I get it. It's safe. It makes you feel righteous. But you have to let ALL of it go in order to walk the same path as Jesus. Even Jesus, you have to let go of. You have to give yourself to the deepest of deeps, forsaking everything you believe in this world to be true. Everything. Nothing spared. That's why Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…" And you're not wrong. Everything here is all fake and not true. Everything in this world. This world is not home. Home is on the other side. This world is just for fun. I do hope you're having fun in your world cuz that's about to change in spades |
| Priest King User ID: 62886748 United States05/25/2015 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Veresanctus What you say is deception plain and simple. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God who died in our place so that we may be saved from damnation/death/destruction and have everlasting life. Who told you that? The Word of God which in contrary to what you say How do you know it's the word of god? Who told you that? What proof do you have that it is? Actually watch the Video series this Time . [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] May God Open Your Eyes  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. Were are You getting your information ? Experience, realization, but mostly nowhere. It just arises. So you admit your information comes from Yourself . Can you really trust yourself and do you really think your smarter superior to everyone else and there information . Why is what your saying correct and what I'm saying wrong and do you not see a problem with cherry picking different religious holy books and writing and combining them as you see fit ? Whoa mouth full there .. Bear with me Yes. It comes from myself. Myself is the entire universe. And words just appear, and arise through these typing fingers. They are not planned. They are given, apparently given for you. There is no "me" to trust. There is the moment to trust, there is the deep, infinite void to trust. Anything that needs to be done through this body is allowed. Whatever's left of a "me" here only exists to permit that to happen with no resistance. What I'm saying is correct, inasmuch as it is experiential. It isn't something I've postulated and worked out and studied and memorized. It is something lived day-to-day-to-day without thought, without belief. Just life, pure truth allowed to live itself as it is. If your words were living words, instead of regurgitated words, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation (by the way, I have no idea what else you've said - everything in my world is let go of immediately and arises again spontaneously - I hold no grudges, because that's all past-based nonsense). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 Either misquoted, misunderstood, or spoken during a time in Jesus' enlightenment in which he truly believed he was the only to whom the I Am is available. I Am (is) the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the father but by it (I Am). Had nothing to do with a man named Jesus. Everything to do with who you really are. I Am, and nothing more than that. Anything else is a fiction. It does no good to make up your own reality because after all it's fake as in not true. Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God (meaning he is 100% God and 100% man in one) who died for everyone and rose again and defeated death. He is the ONLY one who has done this and the only one who could have done it. This means he is the ONLY WAY to salvation. If you don't "agree" or "like" it then that would be very unfortunate. Honey, you're making up your own reality, based on things you've heard from other people. I get it. It's safe. It makes you feel righteous. But you have to let ALL of it go in order to walk the same path as Jesus. Even Jesus, you have to let go of. You have to give yourself to the deepest of deeps, forsaking everything you believe in this world to be true. Everything. Nothing spared. That's why Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…" And you're not wrong. Everything here is all fake and not true. Everything in this world. This world is not home. Home is on the other side. This world is just for fun. I do hope you're having fun in your world cuz that's about to change in spades It wouldn't be life if it didn't. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you know it's the word of god? Who told you that? What proof do you have that it is? Actually watch the Video series this Time . [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] May God Open Your Eyes Eyes open, every nanosecond, every nanosecond. I wish the same for you, too. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69326100 United States05/25/2015 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 No, I didn't say that, but I do concur. In fact, I would say that neither Jesus nor any human being is "the way." You are the way. You alone, no one else. You are your own way. People like Jesus and Buddha and Krishna (and dozens of modern-day self-realized people) simply point the way for you. They are not the way, in and of themselves, because they exist only in your mind. As for the Bible, I can recognize many accounts of very inspired, very enlightened reports of what the Truth is like for many of those incarnated in the world, but the words themselves are not the Truth. Jesus was an enlightened man, a man whose story almost directly parallels the process of enlightenment, which makes his story very special as a metaphor, but does not make the man, himself, any more special than you, or than a homeless guy, or than a grain of sand. Were are You getting your information ? Experience, realization, but mostly nowhere. It just arises. So you admit your information comes from Yourself . Can you really trust yourself and do you really think your smarter superior to everyone else and there information . Why is what your saying correct and what I'm saying wrong and "do you not see a problem with cherry picking different religious holy books and writing and combining them as you see fit ?" Whoa mouth full there .. Bear with me a prime example of what the false prophet will be doing as he stands in the holy place exalting himself above the Lord herein... mixing and matching from amongst all such to fashion for himself an image of the beast that all might bow down thereunto... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69326100 United States05/25/2015 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really wish people would watch the video instead of just responding in ignorance. Quoting: Veresanctus I watched most of the video, but admittedly turned it off when it continually deified the man Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with a man named Jesus. And even the man named Jesus doesn't have any ownership over it or any claim to it. Frankly, his message is extremely similar, if not identical, to Krishna or Laozi or Buddha. It's obvious, when you can open your mind enough to see it. I reject anything that places a man as a source of "saving" of anyone. Everything Jesus was and experienced, you also are and could experience, in a heartbeat, with faith as small as a grain of sand. The scriptures which was written long before you and I were born say otherwise. When you make things up you open yourself to deception of yourself. Jesus was a man yes but He is ALSO God and the creator and sustainer of the universe whereas all things consist but the Word of God who is He. I wasn't born, and I won't die. This body in which awareness is centered will die, but I never will. Nor will you. This is what "everlasting life" means, and it's not worth much unless you realize it for yourself. In any case, scriptures that were written long before these bodies were formed and shaped were written by people who received understanding for the time in which they found themselves. The kernel of truth couched in some of the scriptures remains, but it will *sound* different when it's spoken during our times. And in no way will the words, no matter when they were spoken, be Truth in and of themselves. Clinging to old words is like hoarding your own feces. It's best eat them, digest them, and then leave them far away from you afterwards, never to be dug back up and eaten again. you may have "realized" everlasting life as a concept within your own mind, however you sure as hell haven't made such manifest in your own regard to date, neither shall you accomplish such hereinafter what you will then "realize" is that you are in nowise capable of raising yourself from the spiritual death which will be your inheritance and lot, throughout the upcoming thousand years of His Millennial Reign surely "seeing is believing" in your regard and they shall go hand in hand throughout the course thereof |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69326100 United States05/25/2015 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Veresanctus It does no good to make up your own reality because after all it's fake as in not true. Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God (meaning he is 100% God and 100% man in one) who died for everyone and rose again and defeated death. He is the ONLY one who has done this and the only one who could have done it. This means he is the ONLY WAY to salvation. If you don't "agree" or "like" it then that would be very unfortunate. Honey, you're making up your own reality, based on things you've heard from other people. I get it. It's safe. It makes you feel righteous. But you have to let ALL of it go in order to walk the same path as Jesus. Even Jesus, you have to let go of. You have to give yourself to the deepest of deeps, forsaking everything you believe in this world to be true. Everything. Nothing spared. That's why Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…" And you're not wrong. Everything here is all fake and not true. Everything in this world. This world is not home. Home is on the other side. This world is just for fun. I do hope you're having fun in your world cuz that's about to change in spades It wouldn't be life if it didn't. certainly not a life well lived |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you admit your information comes from Yourself . Can you really trust yourself and do you really think your smarter superior to everyone else and there information . Why is what your saying correct and what I'm saying wrong and "do you not see a problem with cherry picking different religious holy books and writing and combining them as you see fit ?" Whoa mouth full there .. Bear with me a prime example of what the false prophet will be doing as he stands in the holy place exalting himself above the Lord herein... mixing and matching from amongst all such to fashion for himself an image of the beast that all might bow down thereunto... A false prophet is one who uses his mind to predict, judge, or prognosticate, usually by mixing and matching from amongst that which bring him the strongest feeling of self-righteousness. That includes any one particular holy book. Judge not lest ye be judged. Before removing the splinter from your neighbor's eye, remove the log from your own. It still fascinates me how the human mind works; how it will cling to one thing as unfavorable while disregarding that the clinging, itself, is the same as what it's judging. This world is a direct mirror of your own judgments, of your own beliefs. When you point the finger at a mirror, who are you really pointing at? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69312855 United States05/25/2015 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69312855 Honey, you're making up your own reality, based on things you've heard from other people. I get it. It's safe. It makes you feel righteous. But you have to let ALL of it go in order to walk the same path as Jesus. Even Jesus, you have to let go of. You have to give yourself to the deepest of deeps, forsaking everything you believe in this world to be true. Everything. Nothing spared. That's why Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;…" And you're not wrong. Everything here is all fake and not true. Everything in this world. This world is not home. Home is on the other side. This world is just for fun. I do hope you're having fun in your world cuz that's about to change in spades It wouldn't be life if it didn't. certainly not a life well lived A life well lived never changes? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42913331 Finland05/25/2015 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forgive me but I find it hard to believe you just one day decided to pick up a bible and started reading it and never once had some input or influence from another believer or church or pastor or theologian or website all of which have been indoctrinated by christendom's teachings for centuries. I'm quite certain that your understanding of what the purpose and duration of the lake of fire is lines up perfectly with christendom's teachings. I could be wrong but to clear the matter up please tell me how long and for what purpose most of humanity will have to endure the lake of fire. |
