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Karl Marx Was Right

 
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Karl Marx Was Right

By Chris Hedges
Global Research, June 01, 2015

On Saturday at the Left Forum in New York City, Chris Hedges joined professors Richard Wolffand Gail Dines to discuss why Karl Marx is essential at a time when global capitalism is collapsing. These are the remarks Hedges made to open the discussion.

Karl Marx exposed the peculiar dynamics of capitalism, or what he called “the bourgeois mode of production.” He foresaw that capitalism had built within it the seeds of its own destruction. He knew that reigning ideologies—think neoliberalism—were created to serve the interests of the elites and in particular the economic elites, since “the class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production” and “the ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships … the relationships which make one class the ruling one.” He saw that there would come a day when capitalism would exhaust its potential and collapse. He did not know when that day would come. Marx, as Meghnad Desai wrote, was “an astronomer of history, not an astrologer.” Marx was keenly aware of capitalism’s ability to innovate and adapt. But he also knew that capitalist expansion was not eternally sustainable. And as we witness the denouement of capitalism and the disintegration of globalism, Karl Marx is vindicated as capitalism’s most prescient and important critic.

In a preface to “The Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy” Marx wrote:

No social order ever disappears before all the productive forces for which there is room in it have been developed; and new higher relations of production never appear before the material conditions of their existence have matured in the womb of the old society itself.

Therefore, mankind always sets itself only such tasks as it can solve; since looking at the matter more closely, we always find that the task itself arises only when the material conditions necessary for its solution already exist, or are at least in the process of formation.

Socialism, in other words, would not be possible until capitalism had exhausted its potential for further development. That the end is coming is hard now to dispute, although one would be foolish to predict when. We are called to study Marx to be ready.

The final stages of capitalism, Marx wrote, would be marked by developments that are intimately familiar to most of us. Unable to expand and generate profits at past levels, the capitalist system would begin to consume the structures that sustained it. It would prey upon, in the name of austerity, the working class and the poor, driving them ever deeper into debt and poverty and diminishing the capacity of the state to serve the needs of ordinary citizens. It would, as it has, increasingly relocate jobs, including both manufacturing and professional positions, to countries with cheap pools of laborers. Industries would mechanize their workplaces. This would trigger an economic assault on not only the working class but the middle class—the bulwark of a capitalist system—that would be disguised by the imposition of massive personal debt as incomes declined or remained stagnant. Politics would in the late stages of capitalism become subordinate to economics, leading to political parties hollowed out of any real political content and abjectly subservient to the dictates and money of global capitalism.

But as Marx warned, there is a limit to an economy built on scaffolding of debt expansion. There comes a moment, Marx knew, when there would be no new markets available and no new pools of people who could take on more debt. This is what happened with the subprime mortgage crisis. Once the banks cannot conjure up new subprime borrowers, the scheme falls apart and the system crashes.

Capitalist oligarchs, meanwhile, hoard huge sums of wealth—$18 trillion stashed in overseas tax havens—exacted as tribute from those they dominate, indebt and impoverish. Capitalism would, in the end, Marx said, turn on the so-called free market, along with the values and traditions it claims to defend. It would in its final stages pillage the systems and structures that made capitalism possible. It would resort, as it caused widespread suffering, to harsher forms of repression. It would attempt in a frantic last stand to maintain its profits by looting and pillaging state institutions, contradicting its stated nature.

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Bourgeois was named after the first printing press guy,


media, advertised market, puplic apinion.
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Karl Marx Was Right

By Chris Hedges
Global Research, June 01, 2015

On Saturday at the Left Forum in New York City, Chris Hedges joined professors Richard Wolffand Gail Dines to discuss why Karl Marx is essential at a time when global capitalism is collapsing. These are the remarks Hedges made to open the discussion.

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The dystopia of utopia, and the sincerity of irony!

Karl Marx was a long winded goof.

Why not simply say, economy reflect the nature of man, and be done with it!
Catch for us the foxes, the little foxes that ruin the vineyards, our vineyards that are in bloom.
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No, he wasn't, you idiot. It's easy to say that while sitting your ass comfortably in Switzerland.

I'll invite you downright here so that you can feel the sorry taste of your idiocy.
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you're a fucking retard
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No, he wasn't, you idiot. It's easy to say that while sitting your ass comfortably in Switzerland.

I'll invite you downright here so that you can feel the sorry taste of your idiocy.
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how is the inflation going ofer there?
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Op is a communist
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No, he wasn't, you idiot. It's easy to say that while sitting your ass comfortably in Switzerland.

I'll invite you downright here so that you can feel the sorry taste of your idiocy.
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how is the inflation going ofer there?
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well, highest rate worldwide. These moronic marxists have utterly destroyed what once was the highlight of South America. Everything that can be wrong is wrong here thanks to marxism -.-

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1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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Op is a communist
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ohyeah
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In all of Karl Marx' volumes of writings, he devoted a grand total of 2 paragraphs to wealth creation. His socialist model is parasitic and cannot evolve organically on its own. It requires a host. That host is capitalism. Socialism creates nothing and lowers existing standards. That is why it is impossible for it to grow. The current mixed bag of crony-capitalism and neo-Marxism is NOT capitalism. It is a quid pro quo between the poor and the elites to pillage the middle class and divide up its assets.
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Op is a communist
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Socialism is destroying the world,
and crony capitalism is a distant second.
At least capitalism, even the worst brands,
lifts people out of poverty.

Socialism does just the reverse.
It puts everyone on an equal footing
(except the elites).
That footing is POVERTY.
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Bourgeois was named after the first printing press guy,


media, advertised market, puplic apinion.
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bourgeois is the french word for "burgher" which was a term for some sort of aristocrat
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Karl Marx was a satanist.
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Capitalism works fine, it's fractional reserve banking and fiat currency that's the problem.
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Let us ask the REAL question:

WHY is capitalism collapsing?

If you look deeply you will see it is because liberalism/socialism/marxism has infiltrated our society!

I am sorry but capitalism is still the best way for humans! It forces you to be competition. The strong survive. Look at how the western nations have done so well until we were FORCED to take in third world immigrants!
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The problem began when the Marxists decided to vote themselves welfare and siphoned off the wealth to create a voting block called deonocraps. The parasites of all societies.

Why do you think the founders of America only allowed land owners to vote? They knew the country could never survive the way it was established if the masses, the riff raff were allowed to vote. If you owned land, you had skin in the game. That is why the founders didn't care if you were a citizen in order to vote. They knew that if you owned land, you would guard it jealously. Once the politicians stepped in and diluted the voting pool, the end was in sight.

What the founders should have done is abolish the ability to make laws 20 years after the first congress.
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Marx was a jew and that is all I need to know.
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keynesian capitalism does not work well in practice but austrian capitalism may be a better idea. infographic at link

[link to theaustrianinsider.com]
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Marx himself admitted that socialism is parasitic by its very nature and must feed off of a productive host. However, in all of his volumes of writing's, Marx devoted a grand total of two paragraphs to the actual production of wealth. His economic theories have found failure after failure throughout history, usually accompanied by violence and wholesale human suffering. True "capitalism" has not been around for over 100 years. Corny capitalism, corporatism and fascism are not "capitalism".

norespect
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In all of Karl Marx' volumes of writings, he devoted a grand total of 2 paragraphs to wealth creation.

His socialist model is parasitic and cannot evolve organically on its own.

It requires a host. That host is capitalism.
Socialism creates nothing and lowers existing standards.
That is why it is impossible for it to grow.

The current mixed bag of crony-capitalism and neo-Marxism is NOT capitalism.

It is a quid pro quo between the poor and the elites to pillage the middle class and divide up its assets.
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