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The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?

 
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The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
Bible people never seem to pay attention to the statements by the Christ about the deception present in this world. What do you think is meant by the whole world being deceived and the whole world lying in the hand of the wicked one? Details please....trying to understand bible thinking.
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The battle is to remember that always you are in a war.
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A war where the enemies weapons are distraction and deception.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
A war where the enemies weapons are distraction and deception.
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What if the bat is in the belfry so to speak, and the one calling himself God in the first half of the Bible is in fact a deceiver and that the Christ came to expose him as such calling those who followed him sons of vipers, and that their father is the father of lies, the devil. what if this is to be taken literly?


The Christ speaks a completely different message in the second half of the Bible differing very much from the message of the God of the first half ...... what if that is what he was trying to tell everyone?
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A war where the enemies weapons are distraction and deception.
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What if the bat is in the belfry so to speak, and the one calling himself God in the first half of the Bible is in fact a deceiver and that the Christ came to expose him as such calling those who followed him sons of vipers, and that their father is the father of lies, the devil. what if this is to be taken literly?


The Christ speaks a completely different message in the second half of the Bible differing very much from the message of the God of the first half ...... what if that is what he was trying to tell everyone?
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He came to fulfill the law and the prophets. The OT God is Jesus' Father.
Herb is the healing of the nations.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
You are being deceived.
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You are being deceived.
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That was a response to Anonymous Coward 45423617
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You are being deceived.
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If the whole world's been deceived already then how would questioning it make me be deceived , as I am trying to figure out what exactly is the deception being given, and imposing these questions to elicit conversation so that I can develop an understanding. In the lost books Christ says that no one has seen his father and that his father has never spoken to us and that no one knows his name, sounds like he's talking about a different father than the one in the first half of the Bible, who speaks and identifies himself by name.

ARe the lost books deception?
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A war where the enemies weapons are distraction and deception.
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What if the bat is in the belfry so to speak, and the one calling himself God in the first half of the Bible is in fact a deceiver and that the Christ came to expose him as such calling those who followed him sons of vipers, and that their father is the father of lies, the devil. what if this is to be taken literly?


The Christ speaks a completely different message in the second half of the Bible differing very much from the message of the God of the first half ...... what if that is what he was trying to tell everyone?
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the old testerment tells of christs coming so we new he was going to come.
but i do agree in part that the god of the old testerment sound harsh,
but we realy dontbknow how bad people were in those days, when he was having whole villages killed and what not maybe those peope inthem were so bad vile horrid people. if he wasnt the true father in the old testerment then jesus would have said get rid of those scrolls they are wrong hes not your god, but he didnt say that.
the world is deceived and all religion should not be followed at all.
the bible teaches live in the world but be no part of it. which means get on with your lifes live by the laws of the land
but dont go against the laws of the bible and dont do as the world does.
be meak and mild temperd and good to all even if they are bad.
dont listen to diff religions. be kind good and caring for all life always respectable no ones perfect but just do your best.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
Paul was the announced deceiver, all christian churches followed.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
The Bible calls him "the god of this world who now works in the sons of disobedience..." Satan is the god of this world who "deceives the whole world..", look around you it is obviously true.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
The wicked one is who the "Illuminati" work for.

every form of media you enjoy is made by the wicked one.

pretty much everything and body you grew up loving from that black box was working for the wicked one.

Soon. and its looking real real soon. He is coming back to once again pervert our DNA in an attempt to prevent our salvation.

Its all about the DNA. Thats the major part of his deception. It always has been. Its what he did to Eve. Its what hes going to attempt on you.
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How the earth is.
How young the earth is.
Space travel.
How important we are.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
Okay lets talk about the name Jesus. There's no J in Hebrew Greek or Latin so the transliteration of the supposed name Jesus from the Hebrew name Yashuah, did not come about as the nameJesus until approximately 1279. Translated to Greek as was done in the first century it would sound like "I ae soos" and was commonly spelled IESUS. Are we really certain that Jesus is the only name under heaven by which one can be saved? What is the name Jesus is another deception? I always wondered why those would prophesy in the name of Jesus heal in the name of Jesus raise the dead in the name of Jesus, would be told to get away from me you doers of iniquity. Scripture state that all you have to do is believe in Jesus I would think prophesying healing and raising the dead his name would be a belief made manifest by action. What reason could there be for calling them doers of iniquity, when it sounds like they achieved the desired goals? Who would do these actions in the name of Jesus if they didn't believe? And how could it be an iniquity? Maybe another hint that we've been misled into using the wrong name would not that be the deception of all deceptions?
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
Basically what I'm doing is I read all the words of the Christ. Reading his words only and then comparing them to the rest of the text it seems like he came to basically set us straight and pull us away from a lot of what we've been taught and to show us a different way. Part of me thinks if you just read the red letter part, and threw therest of it away you be better
off.

Then there's the books of Enoch that certainly sheds a whole different light onthe whole picture.
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Jesus speaks of the Great Deception or the Grand Delusion.

The Elohim are the Anunnaki.

The God of the Bible is the Pagan Father God and his Son is the Messiah.


Constantine was a known Pagan and he rewrote the Bible at the Council of Nicea to make it so you Worship his old Pagan Father God and his Son as the Messiah.


They want to trick you into thinking Jesus is the Son of the Father God.


So that when his real Son returns you worship him as God.


Dont you know that the Antichrist will claim to be the Son of the Father...
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Jesus speaks of the Great Deception or the Grand Delusion.

The Elohim are the Anunnaki.

The God of the Bible is the Pagan Father God and his Son is the Messiah.


Constantine was a known Pagan and he rewrote the Bible at the Council of Nicea to make it so you Worship his old Pagan Father God and his Son as the Messiah.


They want to trick you into thinking Jesus is the Son of the Father God.


So that when his real Son returns you worship him as God.


Dont you know that the Antichrist will claim to be the Son of the Father...
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Question about your post. SOare you saying that the usurper transformed himself into an angel of light and is the counterfeit for both the God of the Old Testament and his son Jesus?
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Figure out who parades around like an angel of light, and you shall know who the deceiver is. It is the wicked, parading as the chosen, those who say they are Jews, but are not. Even some 'Christians' believe them to be the chosen. The irony.
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Figure out who parades around like an angel of light, and you shall know who the deceiver is. It is the wicked, parading as the chosen, those who say they are Jews, but are not. Even some 'Christians' believe them to be the chosen. The irony.
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I read that rev2:9 says the Jews are imposters and are the synagogue of Satan. Correct me if I'm wrong but my impression that the chosen ones or the true Jewish chosen ones are the Gentiles who the gospel was opened up to, and that being grafted into the olive branch or the spiritual house of Israel makes one a part of the chosen.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
I don't really think that my questions are so off-base I would think anyone studying the Bible would have questions like the ones I'm asking. What has really made me curious and questioning things is reading that there's a great apostasy, a complete falling away from the truth and it seems to extend for a period of time and then as the end, or as time draws near, the spirit is poured out and a remnant is awakened and through the spirit truth is restored.
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It's The Apocalypse, Stupids! sheeplebahbillgates
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Bible people never seem to pay attention to the statements by the Christ about the deception present in this world. What do you think is meant by the whole world being deceived and the whole world lying in the hand of the wicked one? Details please....trying to understand bible thinking.
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Connect with God and the Answers are yours.

This has always been the Way.

God can control what things mean to you so no one else can understand the meaning until he allows it. You want the real answers, connect with God.
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This Bible study explains the current apostasy in the church. Mike has a series of studies that only pertain to deception, false doctrines and leaders that lead many astray. Once Saved Always Saved doctrine has overtaken the American churches. It is the Apostasy that Jesus warned about.

Mike died in 2016 and there is no one to compare to the level of devotion that he had to explain the truth to the deceived. He was treated with contempt by most "believers" and they refused to listen and so they have no excuse. They were warned.
Very few listened.
The few that DID listen are forever grateful for his dedicated efforts to stand against the lies of savage wolves that infiltrated the churches.
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Basically what I'm doing is I read all the words of the Christ. Reading his words only and then comparing them to the rest of the text it seems like he came to basically set us straight and pull us away from a lot of what we've been taught and to show us a different way. Part of me thinks if you just read the red letter part, and threw therest of it away you be better
off.


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I did that, read only what Jesus said.

Knowing that Jesus (Yahshua) said, "I AM The WAY, The TRUTH and The LIFE" He said that few would find the Narrow WAY. Few seek TRUTH.
Jesus (Yashua) is the Light of the World.
He said, "Follow Me".. so, I did. I asked for the Holy Spirit to guide me and help me to follow Jesus.

Jesus said, "If you LOVE ME, then OBEY My words"

What is amaze-balls is that most believers do not do what Jesus said. Saying they 'know' what the Bible teaches but they DON'T KNOW or do what Jesus said.
They've been lead astray to follow pastors and youtube preachers & trust in men's easy-grace doctrines. They believe a different, modern (easier) version of the gospel.
Jesus warned about the time we live in and the deception of false shepherds teaching different gospels.

The pre-trib rapture videos keep believers distracted and jumping from "high watch date" to feast days, numbers, signs in the moon and stars etc. Many listen to and believe the visions & dreams. Most are false. They keep following these false prophets, seeking signs & more hope of rapture. They seem desperate to escape this world.
They do not realize that they missed Him.

They do not follow Jesus.

Jesus said, "My sheep HEAR MY VOICE -I KNOW THEM - and they follow Me." He told us that His 'Little Flock' would not listen to or obey other voices. They were devoted to Him. ONLY.

The Pharisees who studied their entire lifetime searching the scriptures, waiting for the Messiah, they couldn't see Him when He showed up.
They missed Him.

It's the same today.
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Martin Luther figured it out 500 years ago when he saw that there was no biblical legitimacy for the pope.
Nobody caught up to him though.
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I like when people invoke Galatians 1 no other gospel as its obvious that the other gospel is the papacy.
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Re: The whole world lies in the hand of the wicked one and the whole world has been deceived, how deep is the deception?
Bible people never seem to pay attention to the statements by the Christ about the deception present in this world. What do you think is meant by the whole world being deceived and the whole world lying in the hand of the wicked one? Details please....trying to understand bible thinking.
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It's the Alien Agenda. Will deceive the whole world.
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Psa 82:6
I have said, Ye are Elohim
and all of you are children of the most High.

John 10:34
Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said “Ye are Elohim”’?

Jesus is the old testament God, Emmanuel With us is El.

Mat_1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, with us is El.

Gen 14:22  And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high El, the possessor of heaven and earth, 
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Eze 28:2  Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am El, I sit in the seat of Elohim, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not El, though thou set thine heart as the heart of Elohim: 
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Bible people never seem to pay attention to the statements by the Christ about the deception present in this world. What do you think is meant by the whole world being deceived and the whole world lying in the hand of the wicked one? Details please....trying to understand bible thinking.
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How does a man know if he is deceived, op?

He does not....

He is deceived...


So it would seem it is Gods choice alone who is and who is not deceived.

There is simply no room for any man to glory in his own knowledge or intellect or piety...




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