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An Intelligent Conversation About Flat Earth!!!

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An Intelligent Conversation About Flat Earth!!!
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There is no INTELLIGENT conversation about a flat Earth.
Now shut up and go away with your psy-ops.

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More precise excel sheet for calculations of earths curvature...
scroll lower and the formula is available on the site.

For example at 6 ft above sea level (eye level) and looking 20 miles out, the exact drop is 192.73 ft .

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An Intelligent Conversation About Flat Earth!!!
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This no INTELLIGENT conversation about a flat Earth.
Now shut up and go away with your psy-ops.

capidea
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TY for your response as all are welcome please stick to the topic ....

Is the horizon drop 8" x mile or 8" x mile square. Two websites tell me 2 different things
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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
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is it squared though? Because we are not on a slope we are curved...thats what I have been told it is squared mile x 8".

Thanks for your response it is greatly appreciated!
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No, it is not squared. There are other factors that come into play, such as light refraction that can affect the observation. If you are interested, this website explains it all pretty well:

[link to www.davidsenesac.com]
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dude...we don't have to account for light refraction. it's the actual formula. Now if you don't want light refraction to fuck up any particular observation not accounting for the actual formula at play, do the experiment at night through an IR scope .
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r = earth's radius
^2 = squared

Horizon Miles: Sqrt of ((r + height / 5280) ^2) - r^2

Feet Hidden: (r - r * cosine( (horizon distance - distance) * .00058042)) * 1000


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An Intelligent Conversation About Flat Earth!!!
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This no INTELLIGENT conversation about a flat Earth.
Now shut up and go away with your psy-ops.

:capidea:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


TY for your response as all are welcome please stick to the topic ....

Is the horizon drop 8" x mile or 8" x mile square. Two websites tell me 2 different things
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you square the distance....I've sent you insanely awesome info. Please go through it...
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Using the theorem of Pythagoras a2 = 39632 + 12 = 15705370 and thus a = 3963.000126 miles. Thus your position is 3963.000126 - 3963 = 0.000126 miles above the surface of the earth. 0.000126 miles = 12*5280*0.000126 = 7.98 inches. Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile.

mathcentral.com is one of hundreds of websites where you could confirm this equation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


is it squared though? Because we are not on a slope we are curved...thats what I have been told it is squared mile x 8".

Thanks for your response it is greatly appreciated!
 Quoting: Oldboy


No, it is not squared. There are other factors that come into play, such as light refraction that can affect the observation. If you are interested, this website explains it all pretty well:

[link to www.davidsenesac.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


dude...we don't have to account for light refraction. it's the actual formula. Now if you don't want light refraction to fuck up any particular observation not accounting for the actual formula at play, do the experiment at night through an IR scope .
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What is range of a high power IR scope?
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The cheat sheet. Use it!!


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It's called sphical trig
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The cheat sheet. Use it!!


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Thanks man...this is what I was looking for!

So if this is true...and people tell me if you think this calculation is wrong...

Then some thing is odd about being able to see ships well after they should drop over the horizon.
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It's not squared.

Here's a simple way to look at it. Where ever you are, the Earth slopes away from you approximately 8" per mile.

Simple. No need for mumbo jumbo trying to confuse people.
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Spherical trigonometry
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is it squared though? Because we are not on a slope we are curved...thats what I have been told it is squared mile x 8".

Thanks for your response it is greatly appreciated!
 Quoting: Oldboy


No, it is not squared. There are other factors that come into play, such as light refraction that can affect the observation. If you are interested, this website explains it all pretty well:

[link to www.davidsenesac.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


dude...we don't have to account for light refraction. it's the actual formula. Now if you don't want light refraction to fuck up any particular observation not accounting for the actual formula at play, do the experiment at night through an IR scope .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486778


What is range of a high power IR scope?
 Quoting: Oldboy


I sent you the actual youtube video of the experiment. Check it out. I'm not gonna spoon feed you anymore. I gave you enough info to keep you studying this subject for weeks.

If you're a disinfo troll, fuck you. If you really want to research it and come to you're own conclusion, say thanks and take the info I gave you.
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I'd rather try to explain color to a blind from birth kid.

Everything we see makes sense with a round earth and the sun rising and falling as it turns. Everything. From the phases of the moon to the stars at night, as the day ends here it is still mid day farther west, it's dark here and light in China, people have circumnavigated and the charts absolutely work, the globe is a more accurate depiction of the land mass distribution and size, we have seismic data from hundreds of miles underground, volcanoes and sub-strata magma is detected and recorded, the powerful magnetic field and it's intensity at the poles, I could go on for hours, but I won't since it's like throwing truffles to a snuffling pig that eats them then belches without bothering to taste them at all. Then it goes right back to rutting for garbage.
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US Navy Missile Instructor Video...

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I'd rather try to explain color to a blind from birth kid.

Everything we see makes sense with a round earth and the sun rising and falling as it turns. Everything. From the phases of the moon to the stars at night, as the day ends here it is still mid day farther west, it's dark here and light in China, people have circumnavigated and the charts absolutely work, the globe is a more accurate depiction of the land mass distribution and size, we have seismic data from hundreds of miles underground, volcanoes and sub-strata magma is detected and recorded, the powerful magnetic field and it's intensity at the poles, I could go on for hours, but I won't since it's like throwing truffles to a snuffling pig that eats them then belches without bothering to taste them at all. Then it goes right back to rutting for garbage.
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Hi Thanks for your response...like I said...I don't care about rotation..sunset sunrise...meditating your way to Jupiter with candles and incense burning.

I wanted to know the equation for horizon drop. Which is why I said "intelligent" ...and I have had a lot of intelligent responses.
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I'd rather try to explain color to a blind from birth kid.

Everything we see makes sense with a round earth and the sun rising and falling as it turns. Everything. From the phases of the moon to the stars at night, as the day ends here it is still mid day farther west, it's dark here and light in China, people have circumnavigated and the charts absolutely work, the globe is a more accurate depiction of the land mass distribution and size, we have seismic data from hundreds of miles underground, volcanoes and sub-strata magma is detected and recorded, the powerful magnetic field and it's intensity at the poles, I could go on for hours, but I won't since it's like throwing truffles to a snuffling pig that eats them then belches without bothering to taste them at all. Then it goes right back to rutting for garbage.
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Free your mind and the rest will follow....listen to the markksargent videos with flight instructor, land surveyer, submarine navigator, and us Navy missile instructor. After these videos, if you still aren't skeptical about what we've been taught, then fair enough. But ffs, just check out some professionals who deal with calculations on this matter every day and their own skepticism and subsequent follow-up experiments...
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I'd rather try to explain color to a blind from birth kid.

Everything we see makes sense with a round earth and the sun rising and falling as it turns. Everything. From the phases of the moon to the stars at night, as the day ends here it is still mid day farther west, it's dark here and light in China, people have circumnavigated and the charts absolutely work, the globe is a more accurate depiction of the land mass distribution and size, we have seismic data from hundreds of miles underground, volcanoes and sub-strata magma is detected and recorded, the powerful magnetic field and it's intensity at the poles, I could go on for hours, but I won't since it's like throwing truffles to a snuffling pig that eats them then belches without bothering to taste them at all. Then it goes right back to rutting for garbage.
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Hi Thanks for your response...like I said...I don't care about rotation..sunset sunrise...meditating your way to Jupiter with candles and incense burning.

I wanted to know the equation for horizon drop. Which is why I said "intelligent" ...and I have had a lot of intelligent responses.
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I gave you the cheat sheet and that website link has the formulas as an online calculator as well....
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I'd rather try to explain color to a blind from birth kid.

Everything we see makes sense with a round earth and the sun rising and falling as it turns. Everything. From the phases of the moon to the stars at night, as the day ends here it is still mid day farther west, it's dark here and light in China, people have circumnavigated and the charts absolutely work, the globe is a more accurate depiction of the land mass distribution and size, we have seismic data from hundreds of miles underground, volcanoes and sub-strata magma is detected and recorded, the powerful magnetic field and it's intensity at the poles, I could go on for hours, but I won't since it's like throwing truffles to a snuffling pig that eats them then belches without bothering to taste them at all. Then it goes right back to rutting for garbage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22520642


Free your mind and the rest will follow....listen to the markksargent videos with flight instructor, land surveyer, submarine navigator, and us Navy missile instructor. After these videos, if you still aren't skeptical about what we've been taught, then fair enough. But ffs, just check out some professionals who deal with calculations on this matter every day and their own skepticism and subsequent follow-up experiments...
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remember to post your fav conspiracy videos at the Video Juke

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Where does it start and end?
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It's not squared.

Here's a simple way to look at it. Where ever you are, the Earth slopes away from you approximately 8" per mile.

Simple. No need for mumbo jumbo trying to confuse people.
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don't be a douche bag.

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No, it is not squared. There are other factors that come into play, such as light refraction that can affect the observation. If you are interested, this website explains it all pretty well:

[link to www.davidsenesac.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69797435


dude...we don't have to account for light refraction. it's the actual formula. Now if you don't want light refraction to fuck up any particular observation not accounting for the actual formula at play, do the experiment at night through an IR scope .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486778


What is range of a high power IR scope?
 Quoting: Oldboy


I sent you the actual youtube video of the experiment. Check it out. I'm not gonna spoon feed you anymore. I gave you enough info to keep you studying this subject for weeks.

If you're a disinfo troll, fuck you. If you really want to research it and come to you're own conclusion, say thanks and take the info I gave you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486778


Thanks for you info it is greatly appreciated...I was really unsure about the 8" per mile square...so I figured what better place to ask for help.

cheers
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Where does it start and end?
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That is off topic...we just want to know if 8 " per mile square drop in horizon is the right formula.
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Troll alert. I've done my part. I'm out.
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troll...who me?
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dude...we don't have to account for light refraction. it's the actual formula. Now if you don't want light refraction to fuck up any particular observation not accounting for the actual formula at play, do the experiment at night through an IR scope .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486778


What is range of a high power IR scope?
 Quoting: Oldboy


I sent you the actual youtube video of the experiment. Check it out. I'm not gonna spoon feed you anymore. I gave you enough info to keep you studying this subject for weeks.

If you're a disinfo troll, fuck you. If you really want to research it and come to you're own conclusion, say thanks and take the info I gave you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486778


Thanks for you info it is greatly appreciated...I was really unsure about the 8" per mile square...so I figured what better place to ask for help.

cheers
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you've got the cheat sheet and the website with the details...Good Luck.

[link to www.smokescreendesign.com]

There are ALOT of disonfo trolls on your thread, so I'm out.
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Troll alert. I've done my part. I'm out.
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troll...who me?
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me too.
Nobody is this stupid, so it is just a deliberate irritation.
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What is range of a high power IR scope?
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I sent you the actual youtube video of the experiment. Check it out. I'm not gonna spoon feed you anymore. I gave you enough info to keep you studying this subject for weeks.

If you're a disinfo troll, fuck you. If you really want to research it and come to you're own conclusion, say thanks and take the info I gave you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486778


Thanks for you info it is greatly appreciated...I was really unsure about the 8" per mile square...so I figured what better place to ask for help.

cheers
 Quoting: Oldboy


you've got the cheat sheet and the website with the details...Good Luck.

[link to www.smokescreendesign.com]

There are ALOT of disonfo trolls on your thread, so I'm out.
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Thanks for the help bro!
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Troll alert. I've done my part. I'm out.
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troll...who me?
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No. You aren't a troll, but your thread has been hijacked by disinfo shills/trolls. I've done what I can for you and all the info I gave you is info that has helped me along on this rather alarming discovery...
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Troll alert. I've done my part. I'm out.
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troll...who me?
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No. You aren't a troll, but your thread has been hijacked by disinfo shills/trolls. I've done what I can for you and all the info I gave you is info that has helped me along on this rather alarming discovery...
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Yea some of the stuff I have seen is shocking...thats why I was trying to confirm the equation of horizon drop...that is a legit equation to use with family and friends.

thanks again
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