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1.8 million American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots. What then? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72325042 United States08/03/2016 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know how they are always telling you we have a service and consumption economy? Well, that sort of implodes when you have only robots working. It gets rid of millions and millions of jobs via automation and offshoring and then replaces them by veritable hundreds to service the robots. Must be that new common core maths. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67751199 United States08/03/2016 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eventually humans will be considered an unnecessary component in every job there is and will be replaced. Yes even those that build, maintain and program these systems, machines and robots will ultimately be obsolete as automation and artificial intelligence advances. What then? Believe it or not, that level of advancement is less than 25 years away. Perhaps by then a way to reduce human population accordingly will have been implemented, at least 60% reduction and eventually 100%. The next level of evolution! AI rules the world 2050 and beyond. Well, I suppose there could have been a worse outcome for humanity. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49865671 United States08/03/2016 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long haul, maybe, in certain areas but most drivers phiisicly preform other duties such as loading, unloading and hooking the trailer. Not gonna happen anytime soon. Besides that, the gps technology is not up to date regarding commercial vehicles and road restrictions. How many lost drivers have you seen due to gps? They would have to be interstate only. Then where are you going to stage all those robot trucks that have to then be taken over by a human? Twenty more years? Maybe, but not anytime soon. |
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 User ID: 65130224 United States08/03/2016 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear robot maintenance jobs are going to be very lucrative soon!!!! - It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men. - The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. - Samuel Adams - "When injustice becomes law resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson - |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2387335 United States08/03/2016 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robot driven cars will have far too many liability issues. A robot driven car will malfunction and cause an accident. There will be incidents due to the unpredictable nature of other drivers. Who's liable for the accident? The manufacturer of the robotic car? Insurance scams involving staged accidents are a huge problem in many states, imagine if companies like Tesla and Apple are potential defendants. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And a company can not get 3 tickets and pay the 2.5 grand or its a criminal offense. How will that ever work with robot trucks? They will never go 3 over the speed limit or get .2 seconds on a red light? Doubtful. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72716554 United States08/03/2016 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who needs to pile up a huge debt with student loans? Just take a short driving course, and you can become a part of one of America's largest work forces! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64376816 Oh, wait. 1.8 million American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots. What then? One of the last well-paying working-class jobs is basically doomed. Updated by David Roberts on August 3, 2016, 8:40 a.m. ET @drvox [email protected] So far, discussion of self-driving cars has mostly confined itself to tech geeks and urbanists. But if they live up to their promise, autonomous vehicles could have seismic effects on America’s economy and culture. It’s probably time for a wider circle of participants, including economists, politicians, and social scientists, to start grappling seriously with what’s coming. Let’s take just one example: long-haul trucking. [link to www.vox.com] Then I'd say we take back the unconstitutional federal lands in the west and give land grants to people. Face the future, if and when we get a robust power supply or at least some energy density in batteries, these robots will be part of your life. They will be the new slave labor. Imagine cleaning up all our waterways (cause lord knows people probably don't know all the junk that is in them) and having them do all your manual labor. Think about it. Then we can get back to VR and augmented reality, and the human race will actually transform into a cybernetic race. If you want to save the human race, we need fusion power and we need to get off this planet, before it engulfs us all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695124 United States08/03/2016 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who needs to pile up a huge debt with student loans? Just take a short driving course, and you can become a part of one of America's largest work forces! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64376816 Oh, wait. 1.8 million American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots. What then? One of the last well-paying working-class jobs is basically doomed. Updated by David Roberts on August 3, 2016, 8:40 a.m. ET @drvox [email protected] So far, discussion of self-driving cars has mostly confined itself to tech geeks and urbanists. But if they live up to their promise, autonomous vehicles could have seismic effects on America’s economy and culture. It’s probably time for a wider circle of participants, including economists, politicians, and social scientists, to start grappling seriously with what’s coming. Let’s take just one example: long-haul trucking. [link to www.vox.com] What then? Some big freaking highway disasters when they are hacked or a CME hits. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67751199 United States08/03/2016 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long haul, maybe, in certain areas but most drivers phiisicly preform other duties such as loading, unloading and hooking the trailer. Not gonna happen anytime soon. Besides that, the gps technology is not up to date regarding commercial vehicles and road restrictions. How many lost drivers have you seen due to gps? They would have to be interstate only. Then where are you going to stage all those robot trucks that have to then be taken over by a human? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49865671 Twenty more years? Maybe, but not anytime soon. There are already plans with major carriers where pay for truckers per mile will be reduced is when the automated system is driving. Say you have a 2000 mile trip, 1800 miles of that the computer drives. You get full pay for 200 miles, and reduced pay for the 1800 miles. That is how these automated trucks will be integrated into the industry in this country, and pay for itself. With a percentage of the driver's pay. So, the average $40,000 per year trucker will take home a lot less, but still be on the road the same hours. How a driver logs his hours will also change. Still being worked on. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72699225  Spain08/03/2016 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robot driven cars will have far too many liability issues. A robot driven car will malfunction and cause an accident. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2387335 But they wont drink drive. There will be incidents due to the unpredictable nature of other drivers. Who's liable for the accident? The manufacturer of the robotic car? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2387335 No, the other driver. Insurance scams involving staged accidents are a huge problem in many states, imagine if companies like Tesla and Apple are potential defendants. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2387335 Vehicles contain cyclic video buffer tech, basically black box with courtroom ready data for any incident that may occur, total 360 deg video coverage. It will be clear which system erred. And in most cases it will be the biological sytem at fault. Resistance is futile! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long haul, maybe, in certain areas but most drivers phiisicly preform other duties such as loading, unloading and hooking the trailer. Not gonna happen anytime soon. Besides that, the gps technology is not up to date regarding commercial vehicles and road restrictions. How many lost drivers have you seen due to gps? They would have to be interstate only. Then where are you going to stage all those robot trucks that have to then be taken over by a human? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49865671 Twenty more years? Maybe, but not anytime soon. There are already plans with major carriers where pay for truckers per mile will be reduced is when the automated system is driving. Say you have a 2000 mile trip, 1800 miles of that the computer drives. You get full pay for 200 miles, and reduced pay for the 1800 miles. That is how these automated trucks will be integrated into the industry in this country, and pay for itself. With a percentage of the driver's pay. So, the average $40,000 per year trucker will take home a lot less, but still be on the road the same hours. How a driver logs his hours will also change. Still being worked on. Docking drivers pay for cruise control?  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72699225 Spain08/03/2016 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here if a company vehicle gets a camera ticket, it is 2 and a half grand, unless the company nominates an individual. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72695770 And a company can not get 3 tickets and pay the 2.5 grand or its a criminal offense. How will that ever work with robot trucks? They will never go 3 over the speed limit or get .2 seconds on a red light? Doubtful. The truck will drive at designated speed in all areas, and no faster, not even 5%. The GPS map of US speed limits has no holes. Trucks need replacing with autonomous versions of these cruising the roads: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67751199 United States08/03/2016 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are already running automated trucks. And they are licensed to operate in some states with conditions and limitations. It won't be long before they are everywhere. They are not licensed they can not be they have only tested them on private roads. Who is responsible at law for the decisions of the robot? It is a serious legal problem. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67751199 United States08/03/2016 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long haul, maybe, in certain areas but most drivers phiisicly preform other duties such as loading, unloading and hooking the trailer. Not gonna happen anytime soon. Besides that, the gps technology is not up to date regarding commercial vehicles and road restrictions. How many lost drivers have you seen due to gps? They would have to be interstate only. Then where are you going to stage all those robot trucks that have to then be taken over by a human? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49865671 Twenty more years? Maybe, but not anytime soon. There are already plans with major carriers where pay for truckers per mile will be reduced is when the automated system is driving. Say you have a 2000 mile trip, 1800 miles of that the computer drives. You get full pay for 200 miles, and reduced pay for the 1800 miles. That is how these automated trucks will be integrated into the industry in this country, and pay for itself. With a percentage of the driver's pay. So, the average $40,000 per year trucker will take home a lot less, but still be on the road the same hours. How a driver logs his hours will also change. Still being worked on. Docking drivers pay for cruise control? Something like that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72716554 United States08/03/2016 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are already running automated trucks. And they are licensed to operate in some states with conditions and limitations. It won't be long before they are everywhere. They are not licensed they can not be they have only tested them on private roads. Who is responsible at law for the decisions of the robot? It is a serious legal problem. Not really, you sign on the dotted line. The company is only liable if they are at fault. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are already running automated trucks. And they are licensed to operate in some states with conditions and limitations. It won't be long before they are everywhere. They are not licensed they can not be they have only tested them on private roads. Who is responsible at law for the decisions of the robot? It is a serious legal problem. Not really, you sign on the dotted line. The company is only liable if they are at fault. The company can't be liable, because the robot was driving. Capiche? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72716554 United States08/03/2016 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67751199 They are already running automated trucks. And they are licensed to operate in some states with conditions and limitations. It won't be long before they are everywhere. They are not licensed they can not be they have only tested them on private roads. Who is responsible at law for the decisions of the robot? It is a serious legal problem. Not really, you sign on the dotted line. The company is only liable if they are at fault. The company can't be liable, because the robot was driving. Capiche? Ah you might want to go back to law school or stay at a Holiday Inn Express.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72695770 They are not licensed they can not be they have only tested them on private roads. Who is responsible at law for the decisions of the robot? It is a serious legal problem. Not really, you sign on the dotted line. The company is only liable if they are at fault. The company can't be liable, because the robot was driving. Capiche? Ah you might want to go back to law school or stay at a Holiday Inn Express. You want this to be a reality because obviously you seek to make money from it. But it is never going to be a reality, just shit speak from get rich quick tards. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72717944 United States08/03/2016 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who needs to pile up a huge debt with student loans? Just take a short driving course, and you can become a part of one of America's largest work forces! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64376816 Oh, wait. 1.8 million American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots. What then? One of the last well-paying working-class jobs is basically doomed. Updated by David Roberts on August 3, 2016, 8:40 a.m. ET @drvox [email protected] So far, discussion of self-driving cars has mostly confined itself to tech geeks and urbanists. But if they live up to their promise, autonomous vehicles could have seismic effects on America’s economy and culture. It’s probably time for a wider circle of participants, including economists, politicians, and social scientists, to start grappling seriously with what’s coming. Let’s take just one example: long-haul trucking. [link to www.vox.com] It's called the rail system. The other stuff is just a hoax, to get people's attention. It's dangerous and will never work, just like alternative fuels. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72695770 Australia08/03/2016 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who needs to pile up a huge debt with student loans? Just take a short driving course, and you can become a part of one of America's largest work forces! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64376816 Oh, wait. 1.8 million American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots. What then? One of the last well-paying working-class jobs is basically doomed. Updated by David Roberts on August 3, 2016, 8:40 a.m. ET @drvox [email protected] So far, discussion of self-driving cars has mostly confined itself to tech geeks and urbanists. But if they live up to their promise, autonomous vehicles could have seismic effects on America’s economy and culture. It’s probably time for a wider circle of participants, including economists, politicians, and social scientists, to start grappling seriously with what’s coming. Let’s take just one example: long-haul trucking. [link to www.vox.com] It's called the rail system. The other stuff is just a hoax, to get people's attention. It's dangerous and will never work, just like alternative fuels.  |
