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Anonymous Coward User ID: 189114 Canada 01/30/2007 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my question was ignored :( Quoting: Aeonlike it wasn't important. What do you mean NOTHING! happens there? NOTHING AT ALL ??? !!! Do not wonder so much about what it is like to wake, and what is the nature of the Open... we do not answer questions about the Open, as there are no words. Occassionally you will hear me refer to qualities of the Open - in negative terms, such as NOTHING, SPOTLESS, WITHOUT FORM. Those of you who are acquainted with the Upanishads will know of the Nityam shudam, Niira Basam.... without form, never ending, without blemish etc. This is entirely a mistake on my part to mention qualities of the Open,and I apologise. As I said, we are not perfect, perfection has nothing to do with awakening. The criminal in her cell, has as much chance as the priest on his pulpit, the monk in his cave is as far away as the young girl shopping at the mall. I am not one who awakens others, that path is beyond me, for that you will need to seek elsewhere. I am merely a messenger, a wanderer who plants seeds of truth where they go. I belive it is better for you to wake of your own volition than to be roused. There are others who believe otherwise. It is up to them, and you. You will attract that which suits you. Thankyou for your questions. I will do my best to answer. If you would like me to respond preferentially then perhaps ask your questions with reference to your own experience. thanks for answering :/ er |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 189034 United States 01/30/2007 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a telling of what is partially...it is not people tptb are afraid of...even though outnumbered...as the physical is weak...it is the power within each that is feared most...for that it cannot stop...it cannot weaken...it cannot destroy...imho. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 188966 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 188983 Germany 01/30/2007 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Realizing the power that is available can make one fearful. Well me at least. I'd hate to tap into it and then screw it all up using it the wrong way on accident. I'd never do something 'bad' (for lack of a better word) on purpose, but dang. I guess that is where the fear comes in then right? Self doubt, etc? JCD |
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FearNot
User ID: 94018 United States 01/30/2007 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This simple line: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140821"The gateway to the Open lies in your heart, BEHIND YOU." We are already on another site of the gate (veil). I think you are closer to the meaning of this, FearNot. So then, my reason is not adequate to lead me to the gate, and only gets in the way. Hence the way is (hidden) BEHIND wherever I THINK it has to be? Thank you. I red this line: "The gateway to the Open lies in your heart, BEHIND YOU." as soon as was posted. Understood it with my heart. Since then, I am an conscious observant from above, of this earthly theater where I, just as you, play the part. Same play. Same theater. All roles are leads. So liberating to know that the gate are already behind you. And there is no longer need for search for the keys. "Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want." -Depak Chopra- [link to thefountainofhealing.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 188983 Germany 01/30/2007 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self doubt? No, I would say more like self responsibility mostly. At least that's what it sounds like. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 189112No actually I am very responsible. Right or wrong if I did it I did it. Am I confident? No. Thus I called it self doubt. I just don't think I would do a good job. If ultimate power were available to me, I don't think I would use it. What I see as right may be considered wrong by others, which in turn would 'hurt' them so to speak. Hurting others isn't something that is right to do. AHCK the endless circle of self doubt. I used the right term I think. How could anyone be sure that weilding the ultimate power within would always be used for the edification of others and not the self? Even the best of intentions can go awry. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 174504 Canada 01/30/2007 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand Aeon. One night I sat and meditated, I tried not to think of anything, everytime I thought of something I wrote it down then released it. Eventually my mind went blank. I could see everything around me but my body was frozen. Soon it was like I wasn't even there. No personality, no feelings, no attachments to my body, but my body didn't release me. I was right there. Eventually I came back in and my head was light and cold, my body was prickly and my mind, my thoughts, my feelings returned. This thread is the truth of everything that is and resonates with every part of my being. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 189112 United States 01/30/2007 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self doubt? No, I would say more like self responsibility mostly. At least that's what it sounds like. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 188983No actually I am very responsible. Right or wrong if I did it I did it. Am I confident? No. Thus I called it self doubt. I just don't think I would do a good job. If ultimate power were available to me, I don't think I would use it. What I see as right may be considered wrong by others, which in turn would 'hurt' them so to speak. Hurting others isn't something that is right to do. AHCK the endless circle of self doubt. I used the right term I think. How could anyone be sure that weilding the ultimate power within would always be used for the edification of others and not the self? Even the best of intentions can go awry. Because unless we have a proper understanding of it and realization of it's true nature we can't. I think that is what some people are doing here. Seeing this upclose and personal in a place that is protected from the higher realms. Like a practice arena I guess. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 182091 Canada 01/30/2007 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dreamer must awaken. Quoting: AeonI can tell you that a great force is ready to be unleashed on this planet, we are currently stuck in a sort of time-loop (I have no other way to convey this concept except in crude terms), a kind of cosmic layover if you like. It is not when you think it is, this time. Prepare for acceleration shortly as the influx of cosmic energy from the great galactic core ignites certain frequencies in your brain. The earth and sun are conscious, though not neccessarily alive, as are all the planets. This is the truth of astrology, hidden for millenia under layers of deception. I ramble. Really none of this matters, it is dream-mechanics!. Just awaken. no please. this is so interesting. any way to enhance the visualisation process ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 189112 United States 01/30/2007 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self doubt? No, I would say more like self responsibility mostly. At least that's what it sounds like. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 188983No actually I am very responsible. Right or wrong if I did it I did it. Am I confident? No. Thus I called it self doubt. I just don't think I would do a good job. If ultimate power were available to me, I don't think I would use it. What I see as right may be considered wrong by others, which in turn would 'hurt' them so to speak. Hurting others isn't something that is right to do. AHCK the endless circle of self doubt. I used the right term I think. How could anyone be sure that weilding the ultimate power within would always be used for the edification of others and not the self? Even the best of intentions can go awry. What I meant was that what you are calling doubt really is responsibility. You think things through first and are careful about others. I really don't think this is doubt as much as just being responsible and thoughtful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 188983 Germany 01/30/2007 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self doubt? No, I would say more like self responsibility mostly. At least that's what it sounds like. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 189112No actually I am very responsible. Right or wrong if I did it I did it. Am I confident? No. Thus I called it self doubt. I just don't think I would do a good job. If ultimate power were available to me, I don't think I would use it. What I see as right may be considered wrong by others, which in turn would 'hurt' them so to speak. Hurting others isn't something that is right to do. AHCK the endless circle of self doubt. I used the right term I think. How could anyone be sure that weilding the ultimate power within would always be used for the edification of others and not the self? Even the best of intentions can go awry. What I meant was that what you are calling doubt really is responsibility. You think things through first and are careful about others. I really don't think this is doubt as much as just being responsible and thoughtful. JCD |
FearNot
User ID: 94018 United States 01/30/2007 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self doubt? No, I would say more like self responsibility mostly. At least that's what it sounds like. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 188983No actually I am very responsible. Right or wrong if I did it I did it. Am I confident? No. Thus I called it self doubt. I just don't think I would do a good job. If ultimate power were available to me, I don't think I would use it. What I see as right may be considered wrong by others, which in turn would 'hurt' them so to speak. " What You Think Of Me Is Non Of My Business" Book by Terry Cole Whittaker [link to www.buy.com] How could anyone be sure that weilding the ultimate power within would always be used for the edification of others and not the self? Even the best of intentions can go awry. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 188983By the time one recognise and use ultimate power within, one is in much higher level of consciousness, where there is no "self" anymore as you know it.. At that level, "intentions" no matter how good they are- doesnt exist. No more guilt, fear, judgement and self-judgement. Just flowing with perfection in perfection. Magic carpet. But how many would believe, right? Ohh, did I mention?... there are drinks with umbrellas at that level. "Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want." -Depak Chopra- [link to thefountainofhealing.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 189112 United States 01/30/2007 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self doubt? No, I would say more like self responsibility mostly. At least that's what it sounds like. Quoting: FearNotNo actually I am very responsible. Right or wrong if I did it I did it. Am I confident? No. Thus I called it self doubt. I just don't think I would do a good job. If ultimate power were available to me, I don't think I would use it. What I see as right may be considered wrong by others, which in turn would 'hurt' them so to speak. " What You Think Of Me Is Non Of My Business" Book by Terry Cole Whittaker [link to www.buy.com] How could anyone be sure that weilding the ultimate power within would always be used for the edification of others and not the self? Even the best of intentions can go awry. By the time one recognise and use ultimate power within, one is in much higher level of consciousness, where there is no "self" anymore as you know it.. At that level, "intentions" no matter how good they are- doesnt exist. No more guilt, fear, judgement and self-judgement. Just flowing with perfection in perfection. Magic carpet. But how many would believe, right? Ohh, did I mention?... there are drinks with umbrellas at that level. Thank you for that. You struck on something personal. I agree that these things are well resolved at this point. |
Aeon
(OP) User ID: 189053 Australia 01/30/2007 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This simple line: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140821"The gateway to the Open lies in your heart, BEHIND YOU." We are already on another site of the gate (veil). I think you are closer to the meaning of this, FearNot. So then, my reason is not adequate to lead me to the gate, and only gets in the way. Hence the way is (hidden) BEHIND wherever I THINK it has to be? Again simplicity. The meaning of behind you is simply that: FEEL what lies physically behind |
Johnny
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 182091 Canada 01/30/2007 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This simple line: Quoting: Aeon"The gateway to the Open lies in your heart, BEHIND YOU." We are already on another site of the gate (veil). I think you are closer to the meaning of this, FearNot. So then, my reason is not adequate to lead me to the gate, and only gets in the way. Hence the way is (hidden) BEHIND wherever I THINK it has to be? Again simplicity. The meaning of behind you is simply that: FEEL what lies physically behind it's beautifully simple |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 174504 Canada 01/30/2007 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I beleive what Aeon is saying is that you are the dream. The dream is you, every thought, every tangible thing, all that is, is simply part of the dream. If you observe, if you notice that your thoughts, beleifs, expectations and all existing materials are only that of the dream, soon you can control the dream and no longer be controlled by that which you chose to participate in. It's like being stuck in a dream and knowing you're dreaming but being so entranced by it and so attached to it because it's so real, that you no longer realize who you are. |
FearNot
User ID: 94018 United States 01/30/2007 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, you are beautiful. All of you here. and yes, thank you again, Aeon "Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want." -Depak Chopra- [link to thefountainofhealing.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 189034 United States 01/30/2007 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I beleive what Aeon is saying is that you are the dream. The dream is you, every thought, every tangible thing, all that is, is simply part of the dream. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 174504If you observe, if you notice that your thoughts, beleifs, expectations and all existing materials are only that of the dream, soon you can control the dream and no longer be controlled by that which you chose to participate in. in doing so you free yourself from the confines of the 3-D matrix. |
Aeon
(OP) User ID: 189053 Australia 01/31/2007 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. Quoting: FearNotI red this line: "The gateway to the Open lies in your heart, BEHIND YOU." as soon as was posted. Understood it with my heart. Since then, I am an conscious observant from above, of this earthly theater where I, just as you, play the part. Same play. Same theater. All roles are leads. So liberating to know that the gate are already behind you. And there is no longer need for search for the keys. Fearnot, you are one who knows, you are exalted, the Open is before you. You are right about the gate, yes it is behind you... some of you from the Christian tradition will know of the woman who looked behind her, and died! A metaphor... Those caught in the dream are always eyes to the front. There was another who posted a question about the visualisation process. I will answer shortly. |
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Aeon
(OP) User ID: 189053 Australia 01/31/2007 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dreamer must awaken. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 182091I can tell you that a great force is ready to be unleashed on this planet, we are currently stuck in a sort of time-loop (I have no other way to convey this concept except in crude terms), a kind of cosmic layover if you like. It is not when you think it is, this time. Prepare for acceleration shortly as the influx of cosmic energy from the great galactic core ignites certain frequencies in your brain. The earth and sun are conscious, though not neccessarily alive, as are all the planets. This is the truth of astrology, hidden for millenia under layers of deception. I ramble. Really none of this matters, it is dream-mechanics!. Just awaken. no please. this is so interesting. any way to enhance the visualisation process ? The way to the Open requires that you give up the dream-mind. Vision as you have in this place is not the real seeing, therefore that which you are capable of visualising will always be dream stuff. This is perhaps the hardest of all. So I give you these tips, use them if you like it is not mandatory. The only mandatory thing is to seek the dreamer with all your being. move down, into the heart. let your mind free, let it do as it pleases, it does not matter. the mind cannot go to the heart, this is your awareness, which is slightly different. From the heart, turn with your being. Turn and feel the immensity of that which lies behind you. there is infinity behind. Thus the door to the Open is FELT, not seen. The more you let yourself melt into this immense NO-THING-NESS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 189229 Canada 01/31/2007 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Dreamer must awaken. Quoting: AeonI can tell you that a great force is ready to be unleashed on this planet, we are currently stuck in a sort of time-loop (I have no other way to convey this concept except in crude terms), a kind of cosmic layover if you like. It is not when you think it is, this time. Prepare for acceleration shortly as the influx of cosmic energy from the great galactic core ignites certain frequencies in your brain. The earth and sun are conscious, though not neccessarily alive, as are all the planets. This is the truth of astrology, hidden for millenia under layers of deception. I ramble. Really none of this matters, it is dream-mechanics!. Just awaken. no please. this is so interesting. any way to enhance the visualisation process ? The way to the Open requires that you give up the dream-mind. Vision as you have in this place is not the real seeing, therefore that which you are capable of visualising will always be dream stuff. This is perhaps the hardest of all. So I give you these tips, use them if you like it is not mandatory. The only mandatory thing is to seek the dreamer with all your being. move down, into the heart. let your mind free, let it do as it pleases, it does not matter. the mind cannot go to the heart, this is your awareness, which is slightly different. From the heart, turn with your being. Turn and feel the immensity of that which lies behind you. there is infinity behind. Thus the door to the Open is FELT, not seen. The more you let yourself melt into this immense NO-THING-NESS. NO-THING-NES?!?!?!?!?!/!? GTFOH! lol |
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