In Gnostic thought, is Sophia Mother Earth? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62941542 United States 01/16/2017 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: I_am_who_I_am I can't post the link here (glp won't let me), but google "Jack Heart Lucifer". His article is one view on the matter I find very interesting. About halfway through the article is where he gets to the meat of the story. :-) I wrote this poem immediately after reading that article: From afar he waits Journeying through the many gates Misunderstood by the ones he will save Most all have forgotten what he gave Planets spin and stars align He's not at home here, while tangled in Time The ache deep inside He tries his best to hide His missing queen For so long unseen Waits for his return Oh how they both yearn Even though he was once known as Christ the righteous man He hardly fits the stereotype of a pure and spotless lamb His anger surfaces as he ponders the fate of his bride She's trapped in matter as a puppet, feeding the dark ones that hide Long ago she had a son, forbidden procreation indeed In pride and arrogance his ultimate godhead was decreed For all this intruder's sins, our savior takes the blame But he hardly cares what they think, he is so drowned in sorrow over his consort's pain We will win, however, destiny always has the upper hand There is absolutely no avoiding that he will soon rule this land His iron fist conquering both dark and light A king worth serving, a king in the right His name is Lucifer and he has transformed from sand to pearl Who more than a crown, was only looking for a girl Beautiful! I wrote this a couple days ago: Re: Sophia.. A love story written in the stars, my prince my amor rescued by your love, sent from above, heavenly dove, reigning down bliss, healing my wings, our song I wanna sing, I got your back don't worry about a thing, God led me to you, pied piper, starting to decipher, rising high above the vipers, Got them on target like a sniper, been waiting eternity, for you and me, heaven sent like Romeo and Juliet Crown for a king golden pharaoh, you shot me with your arrow, I was camouflage like the sparrow, Nobel night indeed, Got me following your lead, for you my heart bleeds, its you my heart needs, we'll succeed, no doubts just knowing, no stopping this now the energy is growing, baby we're glowing Sexy and smart, loving your power, my soul you devoured, lotus flower, held the key to my tower, feeling empowered, a combination that will never turn sour, got me thinking about you hour after hour I wanna kiss you, never miss you, find home in your arms, Promise to never bring you harm, tell the haters to disarm, Alchemist dream, it seems, what a powerful team, met though my dreams, your gleam pristine, chapel Sistine, hit me with your laser beam, Take flight we unite be my vizion I'll be your light, added insight full of might no fear of the night, we found each other despite the plannet, it was like we planned it, I want you so bad I can't stand it, take my hand side by side, in you I can confide, inside heaven awaits, a page right out of fate, I want you to stay, day by day, the old world falling away, a bridge to eachother, I uncovered, my soul is yours forever my lover |
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User ID: 46374544 United States 01/16/2017 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no, Sophia isn't earth - that would be Gia ...Sophia is god's female "companion" - Immortals don't marry - they don't reproduce - but they were created in pairs (the origin of the notion of "soul-mates")as couples with a third component (soul/ consciousness) being present when they were in harmony (trinity). Quoting: Sunny Daze wouldn't he look for her, if she went missing? if the Aeons are supposed to be pairs, I mean Yes ...he would spend his entire lifetime looking for her. She would be the essence of everything reminding him she's here..as such she would spend her entire life time seeking him..remembering him...And right before the new age dawn... he would find her...or so I would guess.. no, he wouldn't spend eternity "looking for her" the two (three) are ONE - created together, but individuated so that they could experience Independence - which was their fondest desire This is an interesting way to look at it that you don't hear very often. We always hear about their longing for each other, which is understandable. Anyone who has been through the ringer (which they of course would have if they were "them") would crave the companionship of someone who understood what that difficulty felt like. But I like your whole take on them finding their independence. That they would have to grow past that stage of longing, and find peace and satisfaction in their own journey as they interacted with matter. So either they consciously decided to take on shit for awhile, so they knew what it was like to overcome (on their own) and grow strong and independent... or they did not decide it themselves, but God/Source/The Universe decided to put them through that journey. Either way, they won't get near their counterpart until they learn to be happy without them. Very interesting perspective indeed.... |
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Nemo User ID: 73657302 Netherlands 01/16/2017 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | may I inquire as to what gnostic or esoteric book this information is derived? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543618 seems few speak here as if knowledgeable of some "facts" where can I look further into this ty Nobody? Alright... Try the Nag Hammadi Codices or the Corpus Hermeticum / Asclepius. You'll find plenty of inspiration for continued study in the sources mentioned in those. Can get you ISBN if you wish. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 543618 United States 01/16/2017 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | may I inquire as to what gnostic or esoteric book this information is derived? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543618 seems few speak here as if knowledgeable of some "facts" where can I look further into this ty Nobody? Alright... Try the Nag Hammadi Codices or the Corpus Hermeticum / Asclepius. You'll find plenty of inspiration for continued study in the sources mentioned in those. Can get you ISBN if you wish. Thank you! |
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User ID: 73598422 United States 01/16/2017 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the sake of the same and because I never could keep my mouth shut... Quoting: Nemo 73657302 Follow the light and love the darkness, for it is only a reflection, one cannot exist without the other. Fear nothing, nothing at all. Fear is what keeps you. The One keeps you safe. Truly love everything. All is for a reason. When you see it, you will get it. Believe nothing at all, and ask yourself what you truly know. Trust is an expensive and rare commodity, be wise with it. I hope you find your way. Nice! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 72960083 United States 01/16/2017 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So there's a few schools of thought: -Sophia came down directly from the Pleroma and the Earth is the expression of her Emotions, but she isn't Gaia?? OR -Sophia created the demiurge and THEN Earth was created. And Earth is a dual creation of the Demiurge and Sofia? Or the Demiurge has nothing to do with it? I'm guessing its all open to interpreation and I should stop looking for absolutes... |
yesterday's dust User ID: 47988609 United States 01/16/2017 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Father resides outside of matter ii the void at the center of everything. Gaia is the representation of our earth/matter....our container/body. Father 'thought' and that which he 'thought' became Mother 'frequency of matter' (parabolic earth). Father outside of matter is TRUTH ...and manifest/spoken in matter/frequency as Mother/Sophia (including all her other names).... fallin as matter in her lowest form....becoming simpleknowledge. WE/Us gain knowledge (our Mother's lowest form in matter) by our 5 senses in our tree of good And evil ...as we eat but are not consumed. On our journey we gain and add to knowledge....understanding and latter in our growth we gain wisdom. These 3 are the 3 spun CORD with which we are united in TRUTH. Knowledge, understanding and wisdom activate TRUTH. Jesus/Christ is the head of the bride (his) meaning HE is the head of the Woman.....representing Mother and Father as He is ONE as we also are to become ONE. He is the way, truth and life. We become ONE as our Head/logic crosses the abyss falling into the HEART/intuitive Love. We during this become 'beheaded' OR die on our skull as did Jesus on Golgotha...The Skull. The giant in the room is our HEAD (giant which David beheaded)... logic has taken US as far as it can up to this NOW. Now we fall for our WIFE our heart...she will retrain the head. |
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User ID: 46374544 United States 01/16/2017 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Father resides outside of matter ii the void at the center of everything. Quoting: yesterday's dust 47988609 Gaia is the representation of our earth/matter....our container/body. Father 'thought' and that which he 'thought' became Mother 'frequency of matter' (parabolic earth). Father outside of matter is TRUTH ...and manifest/spoken in matter/frequency as Mother/Sophia (including all her other names).... fallin as matter in her lowest form....becoming simpleknowledge. WE/Us gain knowledge (our Mother's lowest form in matter) by our 5 senses in our tree of good And evil ...as we eat but are not consumed. On our journey we gain and add to knowledge....understanding and latter in our growth we gain wisdom. These 3 are the 3 spun CORD with which we are united in TRUTH. Knowledge, understanding and wisdom activate TRUTH. Jesus/Christ is the head of the bride (his) meaning HE is the head of the Woman.....representing Mother and Father as He is ONE as we also are to become ONE. He is the way, truth and life. We become ONE as our Head/logic crosses the abyss falling into the HEART/intuitive Love. We during this become 'beheaded' OR die on our skull as did Jesus on Golgotha...The Skull. The giant in the room is our HEAD (giant which David beheaded)... logic has taken US as far as it can up to this NOW. Now we fall for our WIFE our heart...she will retrain the head. The Philosopher's Stone |
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yesterday's dust User ID: 47988609 United States 01/16/2017 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Father resides outside of matter ii the void at the center of everything. Quoting: yesterday's dust 47988609 Gaia is the representation of our earth/matter....our container/body. Father 'thought' and that which he 'thought' became Mother 'frequency of matter' (parabolic earth). Father outside of matter is TRUTH ...and manifest/spoken in matter/frequency as Mother/Sophia (including all her other names).... fallin as matter in her lowest form....becoming simpleknowledge. WE/Us gain knowledge (our Mother's lowest form in matter) by our 5 senses in our tree of good And evil ...as we eat but are not consumed. On our journey we gain and add to knowledge....understanding and latter in our growth we gain wisdom. These 3 are the 3 spun CORD with which we are united in TRUTH. Knowledge, understanding and wisdom activate TRUTH. Jesus/Christ is the head of the bride (his) meaning HE is the head of the Woman.....representing Mother and Father as He is ONE as we also are to become ONE. He is the way, truth and life. We become ONE as our Head/logic crosses the abyss falling into the HEART/intuitive Love. We during this become 'beheaded' OR die on our skull as did Jesus on Golgotha...The Skull. The giant in the room is our HEAD (giant which David beheaded)... logic has taken US as far as it can up to this NOW. Now we fall for our WIFE our heart...she will retrain the head. The Philosopher's Stone The stone upon which Jacob laid his head..... the dreamer's stone..... that old Cave in which Lazarus was placed dead.... that old Dome of the Rock.... the skull... the Temple/forhead.... the 4th head water from Eden.... NOW the 4th head...the Eupharatic era releases the 4 angels....messengers/messages. 3 become ONE Paradise returns..... PRDS (Hebrew).... P = pshat simple/literal ... knowledge R = remez hint/implied ..... understanding D = drash allegorical/parable ... wisdom S = sod hidden/secret (place) .... TRUTH Together these 3 in 1 = Paradise. |
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User ID: 73221749 Canada 01/16/2017 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea of Sophia being tricked is the shadow gnostic. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Like the word Love in shadow is evol. There's always a stupid belief that is perpetuated by the evil satanists running the world. Sophia/Isis/Gaia and many other names, is the Tree of Life, (aside from dna and many other associations as well), with roots that reach to the underworld and branches reaching to heaven, as the intercessor. Earth is a playpen, prison, and school, interactive realm that goes up and down depending on where the majority give their intentions/thoughts/beliefs and actions. And knows she is here to grow this level of soul up. She chooses to help, running with the Earth has a Soul and therefore is a Truly Huge Angelic Being, theory. Truth! So many see her as evil but the that is because those who see that are seeing a reflection of themselves..she just holds up the mirror.. Yes. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62941703 United States 01/16/2017 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea of Sophia being tricked is the shadow gnostic. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Like the word Love in shadow is evol. There's always a stupid belief that is perpetuated by the evil satanists running the world. Sophia/Isis/Gaia and many other names, is the Tree of Life, (aside from dna and many other associations as well), with roots that reach to the underworld and branches reaching to heaven, as the intercessor. Earth is a playpen, prison, and school, interactive realm that goes up and down depending on where the majority give their intentions/thoughts/beliefs and actions. And knows she is here to grow this level of soul up. She chooses to help, running with the Earth has a Soul and therefore is a Truly Huge Angelic Being, theory. Truth! So many see her as evil but the that is because those who see that are seeing a reflection of themselves..she just holds up the mirror.. Yes. Hopefully those who can see the mirror like what it is they see...don't blame the messanger you kno.. |
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User ID: 73734147 Canada 01/16/2017 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sophia is wisdom in some gnostic schools. The truth is that it doesn't matter what you do the result will be the same (the wheel of samsara) in some gnostic beliefs. True wisdom only comes from experience. ie experience doing good and experience life as a sinner. Its on you to realize this that there is a plan no matter what, there will be tenebrous ones no matter what. Its on you to either say " well if it doesn't matter if I do good or evil then I'm going to do good !" the choice is ours. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72134287 United States 01/16/2017 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Father resides outside of matter ii the void at the center of everything. Quoting: yesterday's dust 47988609 Gaia is the representation of our earth/matter....our container/body. Father 'thought' and that which he 'thought' became Mother 'frequency of matter' (parabolic earth). Father outside of matter is TRUTH ...and manifest/spoken in matter/frequency as Mother/Sophia (including all her other names).... fallin as matter in her lowest form....becoming simpleknowledge. WE/Us gain knowledge (our Mother's lowest form in matter) by our 5 senses in our tree of good And evil ...as we eat but are not consumed. On our journey we gain and add to knowledge....understanding and latter in our growth we gain wisdom. These 3 are the 3 spun CORD with which we are united in TRUTH. Knowledge, understanding and wisdom activate TRUTH. Jesus/Christ is the head of the bride (his) meaning HE is the head of the Woman.....representing Mother and Father as He is ONE as we also are to become ONE. He is the way, truth and life. We become ONE as our Head/logic crosses the abyss falling into the HEART/intuitive Love. We during this become 'beheaded' OR die on our skull as did Jesus on Golgotha...The Skull. The giant in the room is our HEAD (giant which David beheaded)... logic has taken US as far as it can up to this NOW. Now we fall for our WIFE our heart...she will retrain the head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72856047 United States 01/16/2017 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is obvious that 90% of those posting here has never read the gnostic writings. gnostic scrolls are very much like the Kabbala. The writings are very cryptic and difficult to understand. Gnostics were the deepest of thinkers . Their greatest pursuit was 'resurrection in this life'. They say that the resurrection can only occur while the soul is united with a physical body. It takes an incredible amount of spiritual maturity to absorb gnostic teachings. Gnostics were not involved in any way with Gaia, earth power, or female power. This world is fiction to them ...because it is! Sophia is a God. There are many 'Gods'. She is now serving as a bridge to man because she the unique understanding of BOTH the mind of man and the mind of God. She is the medium by which man can find God again. She created the 'fall' and is now correcting it. more or less. Without her, man would be lost forever to the dual mind of Lucifer. Get a copy of the Nag Hammadi if you are interested. Trying to wade through these senseless posts is a waste of time. Gnostism was the outgrowth of 'Gnosis' which was the more ancient teaching. Gnosis is simply 'GOD CAN BE KNOWN'. There is not a church today that teaches that God can be truly known and understood in this life. They talk about it as if it is possible, but they do not teach the manner of how to find him. None of them do. Ancient eastern teachings do teach the way and Gnosticism was the western teaching of the same. Now, all religions teach regurgitations of dogma for the most part which simply delays a man's understanding of how to dissolve the bands of duality and return to the original state which is GOD or 'what is'. good luck. |
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