Doctor violently dragged off flight because Unite AIrlines made a mistake with booking

Again, this incident should be a cautionary tale of how not to act in a similar circumstance, not an indictment against a certain airline or LE personnel.

More like a death knell actuated by overbooking greed

It's almost poetic..

Thread: United Airlines set to lose $500+ million of market cap due to passenger assault

This is your tell.

Even if a family member needed you home, you would be too scared of the ramifications of standing up to authority.

Because you know what will happen if you do, now.

Because "civilized society" will "civilize" your face.

It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to an obviously sick society.

United will rebound. People have notoriously short memory spans. All it takes is one good seat sale and it will be business as usual.

Or if things get too bad for United, they'll just lobby the government for a bail-out from taxpayers, because "too big to fail".

And then they'll offer a doozy of a seat sale, and it will be back to business as usual.

Maybe airlines can stop overbooking, which should be illegal. they can't sell something they don't have.

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Originally Posted by gordon0808 View Post
Regardless of the airline's right to remove passengers, United will pay a price way beyond the revenue generated from this flight. Lesson learned: keep raising the offer until a passenger takes it, stands up, and walks off the plane.

The passengers in question (the doctor) was given a limited license to practice in 2015.

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No, check THIS out:

[link to www.state.ky.us]

To summarize:

The dude from the flight IS a doctor...who was indicted in 2003 by a grand jury for criminal acts of trafficking in a controlled substance, obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit, and unauthorized prescribing, dispensing, or administering of controlled substences.

During the investigation of all of this, it was discovered that he had become s-xually interested in a patient who was referred to him. During the initial evaluation, he performed a complete physical examination, including a genital examination, for the patient who had been referred for collapsed lungs and chest pain.

He then made the patient his office manager. Then he quit his job, and they ended up in some weird situation where prescriptions were exchanged for s-xual acts.

In 2005 he lost his medical license.

In 2007 he completed a clinical skills assessment, which demonstrated that his knowledge was "outdated and also contained gaps that would not likely be fully explained by his time away from the practice."

He showed that he "lacked competence with acid-based disorders, ventilator management, ventilator-associated pneumonia, and current evaluation and treatment of shock," which is hysterically ironic considering his current predicament.

"It was not clear whether Dr. Dao has a health condition that could impact the practice of medicine." That inspires confidence ��

He had to complete a "Maintaining Proper Boundaries" program.

He was evaluated in 2009, which concluded, "It is the opinion of the assessment team that Dr Dao is not safe to practice medicine at this time."

He also was diagnosed with a mood disorder.

In 2011 he was evaluated again, with the following recommendations:

1) He attend a residential program to address his character deficits.

2) He completes a polygraph without evidence of deception.

3) He completes a professional boundaries course.

4) He submits to random urine and polygraph examinations.

5) A highly structured practice plan with a restricted DEA license is set up if/when he is able to return to medical practice.

He did go to a program, where his treatment focused on "his vocational s-xual misconduct, personality traits, depression and anxiety, trauma, and relational issues with his spouse and family."

The assessment he completed in 2014 noted that he demonstrated "significant and broad deficiencies in areas common to primary care," his knowledge of health maintenance was "globally inadequate," and he demonstrated unacceptable knowledge of basic physical examinations and medications.

Despite this, he was finally given a limited license to practice in 2015.

Honestly, if he was supposed to see any patients this morning, they're lucky that the crazy guy couldn't come into work.

1 hour ago by Mikey G. | Post ID: @mk1fXsP-fgh
Now, this is interesting as it's indicating "Drug Related Offenses" on the behalf of the licensee (David Dao) - this may not be the guy, but how many David Dao doctor do they have in Kentucky?

[link to www.state.ky.us]

In October 2003, the licensee was indicated by the Jfferson County Grand Jury for criminal acts of Trafficking in a Controlled Substance, Obtaining Drugs by Fraud and Deceit, and Unauthorized Prescribing, Dispensing or Administering of Controlled substances. (Page1, bullet 5, stipulation of facts) - It gets more interesting, "During the Board's investigation into the criminal charges against the licensee, the Board learned that the licensee had become s-xually interested ina patient who had been referred to his practice, Patient A; during the initial evaluation, the licensee performed a complete physical examination, including genital examination for patient A who had been referred for collapsed lung and chest pain... Shortly after, the licensee made him his office manager." It gets even more juicy... Offered prescriptions, etc. etc...

That's messed up.

I'm seeing a lot of people crying racism. Um, this is wrong no matter what color your skin is.

I hope United doesn't recover from this.

No one is going to fly with them after this lol

This makes me want to cry. I just cannot believe what this world is coming to.

Wow what is even more messed up is Dr. David Dao in Kentucky, just search the web on David Dao flyertalk, you should get to the forum that way . He sounds as mentally deranged as the videos show...

United management came on board the flight and used a computer to randomly select four passengers who would be removed from that trip.

Very interesting.

The insanity I was referencing was the quote regarding a sick society.

The doctor, by his insane behavior, was not exposing the sickness of society, but rather his own sickness.

The court of public opinion is usually emotion-based and holds no sway with the truth if the court of public opinion is found to be contrary to truth.

Again, this incident should be a cautionary tale of how not to act in a similar circumstance, not an indictment against a certain airline or LE personnel.

If you are asked to leave, you leave. Then you take it up with management, and chances are pretty good that you'll be allowed back on the flight if your reasons for having to be on that flight are compelling enough. The man was allowed back on the flight. If your reasons are not compelling enough, you take the compensation and wait for the next flight.

So who 'gamed the system' in this scenario?

Some major issues that are being missed regarding the incident...

1. LEGALLY the flight was NOT overbooked. A flight is only overbooked if the number of NON-EMPLOYEE passengers exceeds the number of seats. Hence, the doctor has now no limit on what he can sue for.

2. Under Federal Aviation law in the US, United Airlines can offer $1,365 to passengers to leave to free up
seats. They only went up to $800.

3. One passenger is well recorded as offering to leave for $1,600. Rather than counter-offer him, United
Airlines staff literally laughed in his face.

4. Had United Airlines put their four staff members in an UBER-TAXI, it would have cost them $430... a fraction
of the $830,000,000 that their stock has now lost.

5. As of opening this morning, 210,000,000 people in China have seen and complained about this. With a Chinese leadership in Beijing looking for good publicity, just consider the risk that they'll ban United Airlines form their air space to make themselves local heroes.

CEO made a statement.

"He deserved it".

Seriously, that's pretty much what he said.

Holy fuck, how did this guy get to be a CEO?


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you do not fly much.....

yes they call it bumped off...but never removed once you are on the flight.

you will not be seated on the plane.

i have had to wait to board because of this.

this is ALWAYS settled BEFORE you board said plane.

this was FUBARed by the gate personnel.
they did not handle it professionally.

they do not have the right to remove any person because they have other at the gate who did not have an asigned seat.

the doctor had a ticket and an assigned seat...he was boarded and was sitting quietly.

again....if i was this man i would have not given my seat up after i went through everything and was sitting in my assigned seat.

now if i was coming home and had nothing the next day.....maybe i would have taken the $$$....but if i was traveling for work before the next flight...hell no i would not give up my PAID for seat.

you do not fly much.....

yes they call it bumped off...but never removed once you are on the flight.

you will not be seated on the plane.

i have had to wait to board because of this.

this is ALWAYS settled BEFORE you board said plane.

this was FUBARed by the gate personnel.
they did not handle it professionally.

they do not have the right to remove any person because they have other at the gate who did not have an asigned seat.

the doctor had a ticket and an assigned seat...he was boarded and was sitting quietly.

again....if i was this man i would have not given my seat up after i went through everything and was sitting in my assigned seat.

now if i was coming home and had nothing the next day.....maybe i would have taken the $$$....but if i was traveling for work before the next flight...hell no i would not give up my PAID for seat.