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I just heard another overdose on the scanner. Narcan administered. Respiration shallow, transporting with parent onboard.

As some of you may know, I'm a scanner junkie. A tweaker, as the cops refer to us. When I first got a scanner years ago, an OD in my lily-white suburban town was a once a year occurrence, and usually due to an out-of-towner probably from providence shacking up in a local hotel.

In the past couple of years, it became more and more common. First, once a month. Then a few times a month.

It's almost every fucking day now. Somtimes twice a day. A friend of mine who's a cop says in Providence, many ambulance crews spend their entire day going from one OD to another to administer narcan, often to someone whom they have already pulled back from the brink of death... sometimes more than once.

The junkies, ripped from the jaws of death by paramedics, often respond in a fit of rage against their saviors since when they come out of it they are stone cold sober, their high stolen by the narcan they administered.


HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

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What the fuck are you talking about retard?
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Howl, by Allen Ginsberg

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz,
who bared their brains to Heaven under the El and saw Mohammedan angels staggering on tenement roofs illuminated,
who passed through universities with radiant cool eyes hallucinating Arkansas and Blake-light tragedy among the scholars of war,
who were expelled from the academies for crazy & publishing obscene odes on the windows of the skull,
who cowered in unshaven rooms in underwear, burning their money in wastebaskets and listening to the Terror through the wall,
who got busted in their pubic beards returning through Laredo with a belt of marijuana for New York,
who ate fire in paint hotels or drank turpentine in Paradise Alley, death, or purgatoried their torsos night after night
with dreams, with drugs, with waking nightmares, alcohol and cock and endless balls,
incomparable blind streets of shuddering cloud and lightning in the mind leaping toward poles of Canada & Paterson, illuminating all the motionless world of Time between,
Peyote solidities of halls, backyard green tree cemetery dawns, wine drunkenness over the rooftops, storefront boroughs of teahead joyride neon blinking traffic light, sun and moon and tree vibrations in the roaring winter dusks of Brooklyn, ashcan rantings and kind king light of mind,
who chained themselves to subways for the endless ride from Battery to holy Bronx on benzedrine until the noise of wheels and children brought them down shuddering mouth-wracked and battered bleak of brain all drained of brilliance in the drear light of Zoo,
who sank all night in submarine light of Bickford’s floated out and sat through the stale beer afternoon in desolate Fugazzi’s, listening to the crack of doom on the hydrogen jukebox,
who talked continuously seventy hours from park to pad to bar to Bellevue to museum to the Brooklyn Bridge,
a lost battalion of platonic conversationalists jumping down the stoops off fire escapes off windowsills off Empire State out of the moon,
yacketayakking screaming vomiting whispering facts and memories and anecdotes and eyeball kicks and shocks of hospitals and jails and wars,
whole intellects disgorged in total recall for seven days and nights with brilliant eyes, meat for the Synagogue cast on the pavement,
who vanished into nowhere Zen New Jersey leaving a trail of ambiguous picture postcards of Atlantic City Hall,
suffering Eastern sweats and Tangerian bone-grindings and migraines of China under junk-withdrawal in Newark’s bleak furnished room,
who wandered around and around at midnight in the railroad yard wondering where to go, and went, leaving no broken hearts,
who lit cigarettes in boxcars boxcars boxcars racketing through snow toward lonesome farms in grandfather night,

<50%

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90 % of society is worse than any junkie, just look at the news lady smiling telling the lying news, the actors selling evil as good , murder and the mob,etc. everyone trying to do their brother out of 20 bucks for what, another toy from walmart,

our government closing down jobs and shipping them overseas for 20 more dollars instead of paying a fair wage here/ none of these are junkies, well they love their house and car enough to do what they do. most are strung out on money the one drug everyone says is ok,. i say it is worse than smack...
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its very simple to stop but they dont want to stop it..they could, if they wanted, search every single shipping container that enters a country..with sniffer dogs and xray scanning it would be very easy

people will say how can you do this it would cost too much but thats easily addressed, charge that cost to the importer..this will not only stop alot of drugs coming in as well as employ thousands of people
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Why would they stop it when they created it and profit from it? For them, it is win-win. Financially and sheep-controlling wise. They make money on the dope and money selling weapons for wars and conflicts other than. Rehab, private prisons. They have it wired.

Have you ever heard of the East India Trade Company? 4th Reich? Air America? Iran Contra? Barry Seals?

Just sayin'.
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Staring at the setting sun

No reason to come back again

The twilight world in blue and white

The needle and the damage done
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Would you allow Gram and Pops to be Euthanize?
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this is what happens when you take LSD and real Ecstasy off the markets and fill it with garbage.
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06/10/2017 12:41 AM
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you must be taking about summit county Ohio

It's very bad here. A one year old baby died of an overdose a few days ago

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HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



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Strange thing about Afghanistan and countries like them, they have always grown poppies and made heroin, nothing new here middle east have used in since they found it.

One article not here but Russia, which had nothing to do with our drug problem but theirs, it was learned by them because of their wars there, these people push it into countries to weaken their enemies. Don't you find that familiar?

Every place we have fought since the War on Great Britain in the early years, These were the kings of opium trade, that and after the colonies tobacco and marijuana, hemp trade too. Now, these are the same people, traveling merchants, not a countries, traveling merchants who make a lot in these trades. They also have good relations with banks.

These are not the drug dealers around the corner, the one on the corner are just a string in the way to the top of the trade, now they have added, mankind as a product in many ways and children are part of it. It got so evil the stink goes up to the Lord God.
Sorry I got a headache

These are the times that tries men's and
women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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this is what happens when you take LSD and real Ecstasy off the markets and fill it with garbage.
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This makes sense.

I'd not go to your drugs, but I'll take a nice head of weed over the spice created to pretend any day.
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I just heard another overdose on the scanner. Narcan administered. Respiration shallow, transporting with parent onboard.

As some of you may know, I'm a scanner junkie. A tweaker, as the cops refer to us. When I first got a scanner years ago, an OD in my lily-white suburban town was a once a year occurrence, and usually due to an out-of-towner probably from providence shacking up in a local hotel.

In the past couple of years, it became more and more common. First, once a month. Then a few times a month.

It's almost every fucking day now. Somtimes twice a day. A friend of mine who's a cop says in Providence, many ambulance crews spend their entire day going from one OD to another to administer narcan, often to someone whom they have already pulled back from the brink of death... sometimes more than once.

The junkies, ripped from the jaws of death by paramedics, often respond in a fit of rage against their saviors since when they come out of it they are stone cold sober, their high stolen by the narcan they administered.


HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


In 100 years it won't matter how we died.
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Duncan the destroyer
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It will be over soon. That portion, anyway. Who's next? What's next? I never thought I'd say THIS but anxiety about losing control in such a way has saved my life. Fight or flight.
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I live in Quincy. Take the red line train to and from my job in Boston's financial district. Get off Quincy Center. It's astounding the number of druggies I encounter. Every age group, young, middle aged, etc. Most are white. Coming home tonight a young white kid, no more than maybe 20 tops, nodded off right across from me on a crowded train.
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The Opium Wars were two wars in the mid-19th century involving Anglo-Chinese disputes over British trade in China and China's sovereignty. The disputes included the First Opium War (1839–1842) and the Second Opium War (1856–1860). The wars and events between them weakened the Qing dynasty and forced China to trade with the rest of the world.[1][2]

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It's been done before.
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HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth

Stop administering Narcan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73445661


Most cops and first responders I know support this. They save someone 3-4 times, then sooner or later they don't get there in time.

Meanwhile, that person was committing crimes usually mostly against their friends/family/employer to support their habit. But in the end, 90% end up dead one way or another.

The question is, is it worth it all to save the 10% that recover and get clean?

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


You have ten children. Gorgeous babies, and each one born was the joyous day in your life. You work hard and pour your heart and soul into rearing these ten babes.

Unknown to you, because you assume your children recognize and appreciate you and you trust them, but all ten kids, ages 10 to 20, have become addicted to opiods.

You are on scene and all ten babes are laying breathless on the pavement of a parking lot. Ten ambulances with narcon teams are present and ready to apply the needed narcon therapy. Is it worth it to give it to all ten of your beloved children, knowing only one will survive (the 10% narrative), or do you withhold treatment from all of your children.

What is your choice?

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It is not meant to be fixed..

Not until you all have had enough...
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HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth

Stop administering Narcan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73445661


Most cops and first responders I know support this. They save someone 3-4 times, then sooner or later they don't get there in time.

Meanwhile, that person was committing crimes usually mostly against their friends/family/employer to support their habit. But in the end, 90% end up dead one way or another.

The question is, is it worth it all to save the 10% that recover and get clean?

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Depends whether u profit the trillions

From drugs n prositution

Pretty solid yes aye
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The junkies, ripped from the jaws of death by paramedics, often respond in a fit of rage against their saviors since when they come out of it they are stone cold sober, their high stolen by the narcan they administered.


HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


They are not stone cold sober, they are in precipitated withdrawals which is a hellish experience, and being woken up into them is the absolute worst, most jarring experience a junkie can ever have.
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Quit lying about there being an opiate "epidemic"

More people die from NSAIDs every year by an order of magnitude.

Quit your lying propaganda.

When it comes to any of these problems you're going after
the symptom anyway, not the disease - which is societal and has nothing to do with drugs.

Quit being a lying tard.
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who is stone cold
sober??

even babies ingest SSRIs
through waste water
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Too much despair and hopelessness plaguing young people.
They simply choose to inject salvation into their veins.

Without an anchor your ship will simply drift. Without a compass, you'll find yourself lost in a mighty sea of troubles. Your opposition seems futile because it is.

My salvation of choice was alcohol. A close friend of mine blew his brains out one night. I guess he had about enough. We had a long talk several days before this. I learned that you can never say enough of the right words to help someone. You can lead a horse to water but blah blah blah...

This event made me pay attention to details in my life that I previously chose to ignore via partying. I began to become fully aware of my blessings in life, of which there were many I took for granted. I realized how many times I was in a bad situation, high, drunk, or both and managed to come out ok. I went on a brief spiritual quest, reading philosophy and about certain religions.

This lead me to realize that I had been a damn fool my entire life. On my knees, I began to reintroduce myself to my Christian roots. I began to pray. I truly became humbled, as the Bible started making sense to me whereas I always looked at it through a veil of contempt. I found a Bible based church. I am learning scripture like one would learn anything as a child. Not one day since has God forsaken me. Not one day since have I not felt the grace of God via Jesus Christ lift me up when I stumble.

I can only implore people to take heed. I don't share my testimony enough. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in 3 1/2 years. I am not perfect. Nor do I want to be. But I am a new creation. I never want to disappoint God, or take for granted the sacrifice Jesus made so that I had another chance to redeem myself. The spiritual side of life is very real. Before anyone takes their next drink or fix, please realize there is another way.

Pray. Pray for help and guidance. Pray for grace and forgiveness. Jesus will truly change your life if you let Him.
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Problem is Not "the Junkie" but the system that creates them.
If the governments were to flood the markets with this, legalize everything and incorporate real treatment that would fix a lot of it.
Too bad pimps be all out of a job tho
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I just heard another overdose on the scanner. Narcan administered. Respiration shallow, transporting with parent onboard.

As some of you may know, I'm a scanner junkie. A tweaker, as the cops refer to us. When I first got a scanner years ago, an OD in my lily-white suburban town was a once a year occurrence, and usually due to an out-of-towner probably from providence shacking up in a local hotel.

In the past couple of years, it became more and more common. First, once a month. Then a few times a month.

It's almost every fucking day now. Somtimes twice a day. A friend of mine who's a cop says in Providence, many ambulance crews spend their entire day going from one OD to another to administer narcan, often to someone whom they have already pulled back from the brink of death... sometimes more than once.

The junkies, ripped from the jaws of death by paramedics, often respond in a fit of rage against their saviors since when they come out of it they are stone cold sober, their high stolen by the narcan they administered.


HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


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I just heard another overdose on the scanner. Narcan administered. Respiration shallow, transporting with parent onboard.

As some of you may know, I'm a scanner junkie. A tweaker, as the cops refer to us. When I first got a scanner years ago, an OD in my lily-white suburban town was a once a year occurrence, and usually due to an out-of-towner probably from providence shacking up in a local hotel.

In the past couple of years, it became more and more common. First, once a month. Then a few times a month.

It's almost every fucking day now. Somtimes twice a day. A friend of mine who's a cop says in Providence, many ambulance crews spend their entire day going from one OD to another to administer narcan, often to someone whom they have already pulled back from the brink of death... sometimes more than once.

The junkies, ripped from the jaws of death by paramedics, often respond in a fit of rage against their saviors since when they come out of it they are stone cold sober, their high stolen by the narcan they administered.


HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



Somehow stop your military from protecting the opiate crops in Afghanistan. Then somehow stop your CIA and other black ops from taking it from the Afghans then shipping it to Mexico or US border states.Then stop the government from distributing it uncut/100% pure to your local drug dealers. Then somehow stop your local dealer from making a shit ton of money from selling it. Then somehow stop the junkies from buying way to powerful dope.

In other words, legalize it. Do as Portugal does. Spend billions educating people instead of profiting from the drugs, profiting from the narcan, and profiting from the US industrial prison complex, paid for with your tax dollars.
"Real eyes realize real lies"
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I live in Quincy. Take the red line train to and from my job in Boston's financial district. Get off Quincy Center. It's astounding the number of druggies I encounter. Every age group, young, middle aged, etc. Most are white. Coming home tonight a young white kid, no more than maybe 20 tops, nodded off right across from me on a crowded train.
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that's perhaps just tiredness/
indebted slave yoof
thnx boomers


legalisation of drugs has been shown to reduce externatilities

less policing costs
less damaging overall
less black market

but even with best data/advise
gov refuses to accept facts

something to do with
expending budget

:dunno:
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I just heard another overdose on the scanner. Narcan administered. Respiration shallow, transporting with parent onboard.

As some of you may know, I'm a scanner junkie. A tweaker, as the cops refer to us. When I first got a scanner years ago, an OD in my lily-white suburban town was a once a year occurrence, and usually due to an out-of-towner probably from providence shacking up in a local hotel.

In the past couple of years, it became more and more common. First, once a month. Then a few times a month.

It's almost every fucking day now. Somtimes twice a day. A friend of mine who's a cop says in Providence, many ambulance crews spend their entire day going from one OD to another to administer narcan, often to someone whom they have already pulled back from the brink of death... sometimes more than once.

The junkies, ripped from the jaws of death by paramedics, often respond in a fit of rage against their saviors since when they come out of it they are stone cold sober, their high stolen by the narcan they administered.


HOW THE FUCK DO WE FIX THIS???

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth



Somehow stop your military from protecting the opiate crops in Afghanistan. Then somehow stop your CIA and other black ops from taking it from the Afghans then shipping it to Mexico or US border states.Then stop the government from distributing it uncut/100% pure to your local drug dealers. Then somehow stop your local dealer from making a shit ton of money from selling it. Then somehow stop the junkies from buying way to powerful dope.

In other words, legalize it. Do as Portugal does. Spend billions educating people instead of profiting from the drugs, profiting from the narcan, and profiting from the US industrial prison complex, paid for with your tax dollars.
 Quoting: Excommunicado


Finally someone that can see the truth! The US GOV'T has ALWAYS been behind Americas "epidemics". They did it on the '80s with Nicaraguan cocaine ->> synthesized into a freebase and BAM. Crack epidemic.
We supply security, transportation and distribution from the highest producing poppy environments.

Rarely does someone TRULY understand. Color, politics... non of it matters. We all have one mutual enemy. It's time something was done about it.
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That's the saddest part when he goes to the city loses his van.
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lol





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