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Let me tell you that absolutely nothing will happen to these sick animals. All this came out in the UK, it was huge , not just Saville but many many more in the entertainment industry. Do you know what happened ? The government announced and inquiry and made damn well sure it would fail to unearth anything significant by deliberately causing chaos within it.
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16 is grown teenager / pre-adult

6 is child


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Sixteen is not legal in most, if any, of the States. The law matters.
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in the 90s it was in some states.

most those consent laws only changed around 2005.

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She had no problem cashing his checks now did she. This is all a bunch of bullshit that will deliver some new agenda to be foisted on us, the lowly masses because as we all know Hollywood is the beacon of respect, sincerity and most of all wholesomeness.

What exactly triggered this avalanche of women coming out to accuse? Now everyone and anyone who ever met Harvey is a victim.

Now his brother is being accused of it. Remember - Hollywood is nothing but LIARS and THIEVES!

I cannot believe the amount of comments everywhere where people just bite when they roll their next bullshit story out that is most likely distracting us from real news, like HR3999 a bill that is so vague that a sight could be deemed illegal now because of the fake vegas shooting
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703831


Sixteen is not legal in most, if any, of the States. The law matters.
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Wrong. 16 is the age of consent in many states and in some it is even younger than that.
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Age of consent is irrelevant. They claim assault. THAT is illegal.

Even if 16 is the legal age it doesn't mean you're an adult. At 16 you are still a kid.
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Actresses are now coming out & claiming to have been sexually assaulted by Hollywood bigwigs as children.

Reese Witherspoon says she was first assaulted at the age of 16 years.
America Ferrera says she was just 9 years old.

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The me too# hashtag thing is a joke. How about name names!#
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fuck you mohamed!
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no grown man should be trying to have sex with any teenager, When they are established with wealth and power it should be the death penalty.

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look how many pedos are on glp. pizzagate much??
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703831


Sixteen is not legal in most, if any, of the States. The law matters.
 Quoting: Adorable Deplorable


Wrong. 16 is the age of consent in many states and in some it is even younger than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44461306


Age of consent is irrelevant. They claim assault. THAT is illegal.

Even if 16 is the legal age it doesn't mean you're an adult. At 16 you are still a kid.
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I agree , they are saying it was forced either by words or force.Something made them feel they had to commit the act making it not consensual.

the same as if your boss at work told you guys to bend over and get buttfckd or you will be fired.

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A teenager isn't prepubescent, which is where pedophilia resides. A teenager, though, should not be preyed upon by an older, influential person. That's a crime, too. That's statutory rape.

I'm beginning to think almost all of the actresses I see in movies and tv had to put out for their job. Probably almost all of the children you see on movies and tv were abused as well.

Directors and producers are mostly rapists and child molesters.
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How many of them knew that putting out would get them the job? Sometimes these things are a two-way street. I am not saying that there isn't a problem, there likely is, but in this age of social media there are many now who just hop on the bandwagon for any new cause as part of social justice.

Also, many people now, and women in particular seem to have gained a warped sense of what sexual harassment and rape are in recent years. For instance, I am seeing articles now saying that catcalling is a form of sexual harassment, but this is ridiculous. Harassment occurs when there is a long history of repeated and unwanted acts, and in particular when the victim has told the perpetrator to stop the behavior previously.

Many women now run to HR screaming sexual harassment if a male co-worker whom she does not find attractive asks them out on a date, even when it happens only one time. However, if she does find the co-worker attractive, mysteriously these harassment claims are never made, at least until any ensuing relationship goes south, at which point she will then claim that she was being harassed by the man the whole time.

I bet Reese probably boinked the casting director to get the role, knowing the whole time what she was doing. She now regrets this being that she already got what she wanted from him, so why not call him out on social media now that its become trendy to do so. She has nothing to lose.

If America Ferrera's claims are legitimate, I have to wonder why law enforcement was not involved in an investigation of these claims back when the incident occurred. Child molestation has been a criminal charge for my entire lifetime.
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Sixteen is not legal in most, if any, of the States. The law matters.
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Wrong. 16 is the age of consent in many states and in some it is even younger than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44461306


Age of consent is irrelevant. They claim assault. THAT is illegal.

Even if 16 is the legal age it doesn't mean you're an adult. At 16 you are still a kid.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I agree , they are saying it was forced either by words or force.Something made them feel they had to commit the act making it not consensual.

the same as if your boss at work told you guys to bend over and get buttfckd or you will be fired.
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16 is grown teenager / pre-adult

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I don't care if he/she is 6 or 17 years old- in our country, they are considered children and are worthy of protection.

Isn't your country with grown women so offended by being whistled at, that they're passing a law to arrest men that do this? Yet in your eyes it's ok to assault a child? Get out of here.......
 Quoting: The Deplorable ScarlettRedfern


Wrong. Most teenagers are not considered children in the eyes of the law, particularly once they are 16. There are even different charges, statutes, and penalties involved for sexual misconduct that occurs during teen years versus as a child.

In some states teens can get a learners permit as early as 14 years old. Do children drive motor vehicles? They can also legally work in most states, and in some states can be emancipated from their parents. So, I think it is pretty clear that even the law considers teens to be a little more than "children".
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I don't care if he/she is 6 or 17 years old- in our country, they are considered children and are worthy of protection.

Isn't your country with grown women so offended by being whistled at, that they're passing a law to arrest men that do this? Yet in your eyes it's ok to assault a child? Get out of here.......
 Quoting: The Deplorable ScarlettRedfern


Wrong. Most teenagers are not considered children in the eyes of the law, particularly once they are 16. There are even different charges, statutes, and penalties involved for sexual misconduct that occurs during teen years versus as a child.

In some states teens can get a learners permit as early as 14 years old. Do children drive motor vehicles? They can also legally work in most states, and in some states can be emancipated from their parents. So, I think it is pretty clear that even the law considers teens to be a little more than "children".
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Humans above 15 years old are capable in modern times of making there own decisions. Medically, Sexually, etc.

However I am ok with a death penalty for powerful men who sleep with people 14 and under if we make divorce initiated by a woman after age 30 similarly have a death penalty.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703831


I don't care if he/she is 6 or 17 years old- in our country, they are considered children and are worthy of protection.

Isn't your country with grown women so offended by being whistled at, that they're passing a law to arrest men that do this? Yet in your eyes it's ok to assault a child? Get out of here.......
 Quoting: The Deplorable ScarlettRedfern


Wrong. Most teenagers are not considered children in the eyes of the law, particularly once they are 16. There are even different charges, statutes, and penalties involved for sexual misconduct that occurs during teen years versus as a child.

In some states teens can get a learners permit as early as 14 years old. Do children drive motor vehicles? They can also legally work in most states, and in some states can be emancipated from their parents. So, I think it is pretty clear that even the law considers teens to be a little more than "children".
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Humans above 15 years old are capable in modern times of making there own decisions. Medically, Sexually, etc.

However I am ok with a death penalty for powerful men who sleep with people 14 and under if we make divorce initiated by a woman after age 30 similarly have a death penalty.
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Scrap the industry as it exists.

They attack in packs as they are doing with President Trump. On an individual basis not so much. Leftist complicity. The "ends" were justified by the means.

If all the johnny and jill come latelys are so virtuous, start naming names and specifics. Don't hold your breath though because doing so would put their lifestyles of the rich and infamous at jeopardy. Social justice but not on their dime. Designer bohemians.

Smug priviledged elitists with a delusional sense of self worth mocking the hard working people living in the country between their costal evil kingdoms.

This is the left that people are voting for.
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16 is grown teenager / pre-adult

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703831


I don't care if he/she is 6 or 17 years old- in our country, they are considered children and are worthy of protection.

Isn't your country with grown women so offended by being whistled at, that they're passing a law to arrest men that do this? Yet in your eyes it's ok to assault a child? Get out of here.......
 Quoting: The Deplorable ScarlettRedfern


Wrong. Most teenagers are not considered children in the eyes of the law, particularly once they are 16. There are even different charges, statutes, and penalties involved for sexual misconduct that occurs during teen years versus as a child.

In some states teens can get a learners permit as early as 14 years old. Do children drive motor vehicles? They can also legally work in most states, and in some states can be emancipated from their parents. So, I think it is pretty clear that even the law considers teens to be a little more than "children".
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Humans above 15 years old are capable in modern times of making there own decisions. Medically, Sexually, etc.

However I am ok with a death penalty for powerful men who sleep with people 14 and under if we make divorce initiated by a woman after age 30 similarly have a death penalty.
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Except they are not.

They sure as hell can't take care of themselves, they have no money, no education, they can't be responsible. Mommy and daddy are the ones footing the bill and dealing with the consequences for their bad choices.

They do stupid shit because their brains aren't fully developed. They are little sociopaths basically.
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When people say oh a 16 or 17 year old isn't a child that does imply that they are partly at fault or it isn't as harmful to them somehow or they should have known better.

That's why people on this thread are upset about 16 is age of consent and that they aren't children or kids just because the law says so.

Remember the lawmakers tend to be not such good guys and maybe this is part of the whole pedophilia thing...making the age of consent so low.

And by mentioning the age of consent in these circumstances implies blame on the victim.

So fucking off you idiot cause I am addressing what I'm reading on this thread that I gave five stars btw.
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Oh please. In this country we seem to keep extending people's childhood later and later as though these people aren't at all capable of taking care of themselves. A 16 or 17 year old is a young adult. Inexperienced, yes. Not every 16 or 17 year old that got down and dirty with a casting director was unwittingly led into it. Also, i'm curious as to what people who are upset will say magically changes when the teen turns 18, or 19?

I don't think mentioning age of consent implies blame on the victim at all, its just a statement of fact and a counter-argument to those who are making unsubstantiated claims that the law considers 16 and 17 year olds to be children. Clearly, it does not.

The law in regards to age of consent is simply a legal recognition that most adolescents have completed puberty by that age and are biologically adults. The claim that lawmakers purposely set this age "so low" is completely unsubstantiated and borders on plain paranoia. The law is set where it is, because it has to be set somewhere, and the legal system can't be tied up with a bunch of 16 year olds having sex with 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, not every unconventional age gap sexual relationship is necessarily some "pervy old man" or some "adult predator". There are 16 and 17 years olds that solicit sex with older men and women. It is not always the other way around.
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I remember the "repressed memories" lawsuits of the 1980's. Many men, probably innocent men, had reputations, families and lives ruined. One is pretty defenseless when someone claims you abused them 30 years ago.

And standards of proof were in my opinion way too low. It's whatever a jury decides, and juries go with the prevailing propaganda sometimes.

Proof should still be "beyond a reasonable doubt", and if I were on the jury, waiting 30 years to speak up would likely be enough to pass that threshold in itself.

I am not defending Hollywood, and I hate what they do politically. Still, I remember the 80's too, and that was horrible and unjust.
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THIS is what i can't get either,
and regarding children ?
where the hell were their PARENTS ?
they left their kid ALONE with these men or even on the set ? and i don't give a shit about these pervs""status"" the same.
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these women who were molested by producers are as guilty as the producers,cause they remained silent and had consensual sex for movie roles ie materialistic reasons.
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Basically it was a deal. The producer gets the sexy fun in return for financing the movie. Maybe the actress was worse: which is worse, being a whore or patronizing a whore?

Anyway now if that deal is off, I suppose the producers won't be so eager to finance movies. It'll all come out to a fair outcome where Hollywood has less money and power.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703831


I don't care if he/she is 6 or 17 years old- in our country, they are considered children and are worthy of protection.

Isn't your country with grown women so offended by being whistled at, that they're passing a law to arrest men that do this? Yet in your eyes it's ok to assault a child? Get out of here.......
 Quoting: The Deplorable ScarlettRedfern


Wrong. Most teenagers are not considered children in the eyes of the law, particularly once they are 16. There are even different charges, statutes, and penalties involved for sexual misconduct that occurs during teen years versus as a child.

In some states teens can get a learners permit as early as 14 years old. Do children drive motor vehicles? They can also legally work in most states, and in some states can be emancipated from their parents. So, I think it is pretty clear that even the law considers teens to be a little more than "children".
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Of course they do, and different responsibilities and privileges come at different ages. Voting comes before drinking. That's crazy, it should be the other way around, as it used to be. But given that this new crop of 18 year olds is pretty conservative, I guess it's OK now.

Age of consent varies from 16 to 18 depending on state. In NY it's 17. It is what it is. But if you're a 17 year old f*cking a 16 year old it's not such a big deal. Usually there's an age difference. Often 3 year age difference required for maximum penalties.
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Sixteen is not legal in most, if any, of the States. The law matters.
 Quoting: Adorable Deplorable


Yes, the law does matter. The law states the age of consent for sex in almost every state is 16. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Not with and adult, that is where the rubber meets the road, a teens have problem, they are not being taught to wait, sometimes I think a school should only be together with boys and girls until it time for puberty they boys in one school girls in another. It would solve two or more problem I know of right off. They will not be looking and messing with guys during their studies, same with the guys, girl and boys learn different.

This is not wrong, it sensible, They can meet up for dances etc with eagle eyes of parents or their person to watch them. Rules at this time in life keep the young from going into a place that can mess their lives up. They also learn better.

Do not mess with young no matter the age, it not sex really it an older person taking advantage of an immature person who does not understand what going to come from these. The actions of adults is abusing their power over the child and youth.

If a good parent and there are really caring parents out here will hunt these adults down, then they will pay in way that no torture chamber could think of.
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Seriously, you are really arguing that a 16 or 17 year old doesn't understand what happens when they have sex? Fuck, I grew up in the 80s and even then they were teaching us about puberty and human sexuality starting in the 3RD GRADE. Its not like I never saw intercourse happening on Nature or the Discovery Channel either. Give me a break. By the time you are in high school (so probably 14ish) you know damn well what sex is and what its for. Most people are in full swing puberty by then, so even if they had ignorant parents that refused to teach them about the facts of life, they probably figured it our on their own by then anyways.
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When people say oh a 16 or 17 year old isn't a child that does imply that they are partly at fault or it isn't as harmful to them somehow or they should have known better.

That's why people on this thread are upset about 16 is age of consent and that they aren't children or kids just because the law says so.

Remember the lawmakers tend to be not such good guys and maybe this is part of the whole pedophilia thing...making the age of consent so low.

And by mentioning the age of consent in these circumstances implies blame on the victim.

So fucking off you idiot cause I am addressing what I'm reading on this thread that I gave five stars btw.
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Oh please. In this country we seem to keep extending people's childhood later and later as though these people aren't at all capable of taking care of themselves. A 16 or 17 year old is a young adult. Inexperienced, yes. Not every 16 or 17 year old that got down and dirty with a casting director was unwittingly led into it. Also, i'm curious as to what people who are upset will say magically changes when the teen turns 18, or 19?

I don't think mentioning age of consent implies blame on the victim at all, its just a statement of fact and a counter-argument to those who are making unsubstantiated claims that the law considers 16 and 17 year olds to be children. Clearly, it does not.

The law in regards to age of consent is simply a legal recognition that most adolescents have completed puberty by that age and are biologically adults. The claim that lawmakers purposely set this age "so low" is completely unsubstantiated and borders on plain paranoia. The law is set where it is, because it has to be set somewhere, and the legal system can't be tied up with a bunch of 16 year olds having sex with 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, not every unconventional age gap sexual relationship is necessarily some "pervy old man" or some "adult predator". There are 16 and 17 years olds that solicit sex with older men and women. It is not always the other way around.
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Actually if you do any research at all into the history of the age of consent, you'll realize it was only started about 100 years ago. It started at 12 or 13, to prevent economically disadvantaged women from selling themselves as prostitutes.

It had nothing to do with protecting younger people from older people. It had to do with protecting the "chastity" of young girls because women who weren't virgins were FAR LESS likely to become married. AoC laws started as a way to prevent young girls from becoming whores. The actual definition of whore, not current society's use of the word pertaining to a women the has casual sex.

It was slowly and gradually raised over time. So those of you arguing "its the law" should probably do some research because you are advocating that women who have sex are not good marriage material. Even if it is true.

Frankly that age of consent should be 15 across the board. Once you are 15 you should be free to sleep with whomever you want.

People who were coerced into sleeping with producers/film directors had a choice. They could have said no. They could have found another studio or line of work. But they made a choice and an exchange. A free exchange between two consenting parties. Welcome to fucking America.
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She had no problem cashing his checks now did she. This is all a bunch of bullshit that will deliver some new agenda to be foisted on us, the lowly masses because as we all know Hollywood is the beacon of respect, sincerity and most of all wholesomeness.

What exactly triggered this avalanche of women coming out to accuse? Now everyone and anyone who ever met Harvey is a victim.

Now his brother is being accused of it. Remember - Hollywood is nothing but LIARS and THIEVES!

I cannot believe the amount of comments everywhere where people just bite when they roll their next bullshit story out that is most likely distracting us from real news, like HR3999 a bill that is so vague that a sight could be deemed illegal now because of the fake vegas shooting
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Weinstein was wounded, so they all felt free to jump aboard and tear off some flesh for themselves. Surely there are others but they're not wounded, and so nobody wants to attack them.

All greedy and cynical, especially the actresses. They're just whores. The most important outcome of this is that we know the whole A list, maybe with a few exceptions or maybe none, consists of whores.

Angelina Jolie, being from a movie family, may not have had to whore herself, but she has tats all over her body from some weird ritual.
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Ummm America Ferrera claims she was assaulted at 9...

She didn't even start her Hollywood career until 2002 when she was 18...
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shes one of those #metoo people and they are connecting her 'metoo' to hollywood because shes an actress.

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16 is grown teenager / pre-adult

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Sixteen is not legal in most, if any, of the States. The law matters.
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in the 90s it was in some states.

most those consent laws only changed around 2005.
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Re: Actresses claim to have been sexually assaulted as children
When people say oh a 16 or 17 year old isn't a child that does imply that they are partly at fault or it isn't as harmful to them somehow or they should have known better.

That's why people on this thread are upset about 16 is age of consent and that they aren't children or kids just because the law says so.

Remember the lawmakers tend to be not such good guys and maybe this is part of the whole pedophilia thing...making the age of consent so low.

And by mentioning the age of consent in these circumstances implies blame on the victim.

So fucking off you idiot cause I am addressing what I'm reading on this thread that I gave five stars btw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75284881


Oh please. In this country we seem to keep extending people's childhood later and later as though these people aren't at all capable of taking care of themselves. A 16 or 17 year old is a young adult. Inexperienced, yes. Not every 16 or 17 year old that got down and dirty with a casting director was unwittingly led into it. Also, i'm curious as to what people who are upset will say magically changes when the teen turns 18, or 19?

I don't think mentioning age of consent implies blame on the victim at all, its just a statement of fact and a counter-argument to those who are making unsubstantiated claims that the law considers 16 and 17 year olds to be children. Clearly, it does not.

The law in regards to age of consent is simply a legal recognition that most adolescents have completed puberty by that age and are biologically adults. The claim that lawmakers purposely set this age "so low" is completely unsubstantiated and borders on plain paranoia. The law is set where it is, because it has to be set somewhere, and the legal system can't be tied up with a bunch of 16 year olds having sex with 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, not every unconventional age gap sexual relationship is necessarily some "pervy old man" or some "adult predator". There are 16 and 17 years olds that solicit sex with older men and women. It is not always the other way around.
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Actually if you do any research at all into the history of the age of consent, you'll realize it was only started about 100 years ago. It started at 12 or 13, to prevent economically disadvantaged women from selling themselves as prostitutes.

It had nothing to do with protecting younger people from older people. It had to do with protecting the "chastity" of young girls because women who weren't virgins were FAR LESS likely to become married. AoC laws started as a way to prevent young girls from becoming whores. The actual definition of whore, not current society's use of the word pertaining to a women the has casual sex.

It was slowly and gradually raised over time. So those of you arguing "its the law" should probably do some research because you are advocating that women who have sex are not good marriage material. Even if it is true.

Frankly that age of consent should be 15 across the board. Once you are 15 you should be free to sleep with whomever you want.

People who were coerced into sleeping with producers/film directors had a choice. They could have said no. They could have found another studio or line of work. But they made a choice and an exchange. A free exchange between two consenting parties. Welcome to fucking America.
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"women who have sex are not good marriage material."

Yeah it's probably true, but we don't have any other choices. That surely has a lot to do with the rocky path of marriages in our society.
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Hopefully this will be the beginning of the takedown of Hollywood pervs.
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Hollywood pervs? What about DC?
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When people say oh a 16 or 17 year old isn't a child that does imply that they are partly at fault or it isn't as harmful to them somehow or they should have known better.

That's why people on this thread are upset about 16 is age of consent and that they aren't children or kids just because the law says so.

Remember the lawmakers tend to be not such good guys and maybe this is part of the whole pedophilia thing...making the age of consent so low.

And by mentioning the age of consent in these circumstances implies blame on the victim.

So fucking off you idiot cause I am addressing what I'm reading on this thread that I gave five stars btw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75284881


Oh please. In this country we seem to keep extending people's childhood later and later as though these people aren't at all capable of taking care of themselves. A 16 or 17 year old is a young adult. Inexperienced, yes. Not every 16 or 17 year old that got down and dirty with a casting director was unwittingly led into it. Also, i'm curious as to what people who are upset will say magically changes when the teen turns 18, or 19?

I don't think mentioning age of consent implies blame on the victim at all, its just a statement of fact and a counter-argument to those who are making unsubstantiated claims that the law considers 16 and 17 year olds to be children. Clearly, it does not.

The law in regards to age of consent is simply a legal recognition that most adolescents have completed puberty by that age and are biologically adults. The claim that lawmakers purposely set this age "so low" is completely unsubstantiated and borders on plain paranoia. The law is set where it is, because it has to be set somewhere, and the legal system can't be tied up with a bunch of 16 year olds having sex with 18 and 19 year olds.

Also, not every unconventional age gap sexual relationship is necessarily some "pervy old man" or some "adult predator". There are 16 and 17 years olds that solicit sex with older men and women. It is not always the other way around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44461306


Actually if you do any research at all into the history of the age of consent, you'll realize it was only started about 100 years ago. It started at 12 or 13, to prevent economically disadvantaged women from selling themselves as prostitutes.

It had nothing to do with protecting younger people from older people. It had to do with protecting the "chastity" of young girls because women who weren't virgins were FAR LESS likely to become married. AoC laws started as a way to prevent young girls from becoming whores. The actual definition of whore, not current society's use of the word pertaining to a women the has casual sex.

It was slowly and gradually raised over time. So those of you arguing "its the law" should probably do some research because you are advocating that women who have sex are not good marriage material. Even if it is true.

Frankly that age of consent should be 15 across the board. Once you are 15 you should be free to sleep with whomever you want.

People who were coerced into sleeping with producers/film directors had a choice. They could have said no. They could have found another studio or line of work. But they made a choice and an exchange. A free exchange between two consenting parties. Welcome to fucking America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21199456


Is that 15 yr old going to pay for his/her own STD treatment? Pay for a baby or an abortion? I didn't think so.

You should be free to sleep with anyone you want after you get out of your parents home and they are no longer responsible for your idiotic choices.

You aren't free to do as you please when you aren't even responsible for yourself. The law needs to take that into account.
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16 is grown teenager / pre-adult

6 is child


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Roman, is that you?
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16 is grown teenager / pre-adult

6 is child


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75703831


I don't care if he/she is 6 or 17 years old- in our country, they are considered children and are worthy of protection.

Isn't your country with grown women so offended by being whistled at, that they're passing a law to arrest men that do this? Yet in your eyes it's ok to assault a child? Get out of here.......
 Quoting: The Deplorable ScarlettRedfern


Wrong. Most teenagers are not considered children in the eyes of the law, particularly once they are 16. There are even different charges, statutes, and penalties involved for sexual misconduct that occurs during teen years versus as a child.

In some states teens can get a learners permit as early as 14 years old. Do children drive motor vehicles? They can also legally work in most states, and in some states can be emancipated from their parents. So, I think it is pretty clear that even the law considers teens to be a little more than "children".
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Of course they do, and different responsibilities and privileges come at different ages. Voting comes before drinking. That's crazy, it should be the other way around, as it used to be. But given that this new crop of 18 year olds is pretty conservative, I guess it's OK now.

Age of consent varies from 16 to 18 depending on state. In NY it's 17. It is what it is. But if you're a 17 year old f*cking a 16 year old it's not such a big deal. Usually there's an age difference. Often 3 year age difference required for maximum penalties.
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Agreed. Part of the point I'm making (or maybe made in a later comment) is that somehow it all magically changes at 18 when suddenly its OK to have sex with a 75 year old but not okay to have sex with a 17 year old. I would find such an act morally reprehensible, but it is not necessarily legally so.

Several posters are making an argument that 16 and 17 year old are children and I don't buy it. My own grandparents got married when they were 15, started a family, and my grandfather even purchased land and began building a house! Are these things a child does? They certainly aren't fully grown adults but tossing them in 8 and 9 year olds doesn't add up, and the point is that it doesn't add up in the eyes of the law either. These laws were written by assemblies of fully grown adults, so apparently there was some agreement on this point as well. This idea that 16 and 17 year olds are "little children" seems to be somewhat of a new phenomenon and has no real basis in reality.
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I remember the "repressed memories" lawsuits of the 1980's. Many men, probably innocent men, had reputations, families and lives ruined. One is pretty defenseless when someone claims you abused them 30 years ago.

And standards of proof were in my opinion way too low. It's whatever a jury decides, and juries go with the prevailing propaganda sometimes.

Proof should still be "beyond a reasonable doubt", and if I were on the jury, waiting 30 years to speak up would likely be enough to pass that threshold in itself.

I am not defending Hollywood, and I hate what they do politically. Still, I remember the 80's too, and that was horrible and unjust.
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THIS is what i can't get either,
and regarding children ?
where the hell were their PARENTS ?
they left their kid ALONE with these men or even on the set ? and i don't give a shit about these pervs""status"" the same.
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These pervs groom the parents as much as they groom the children.

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