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FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75734920  Canada11/03/2017 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame Seems new canadians dont like to take resposibility for themselves but would rather lay blame on goverment agencies trying to get tax payers to pay for their mistakes. Not to mention the damage this guys false claims made against the mint. He should be sued and held responsible for his own ignorance. I see this time and time again with immigrants trying to blame everyone else when they come into a new country. Dont forget assholes, you assimilate to us not the other way around! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 Fake gold bar didn’t originate at ROyal Canadian Mint Mint After a counterfeit gold bar was sold by a Royal Bank of Canada (RBC) branch with what appeared to be proper markings, the Royal Canadian Mint determined the bar – containing no gold whatsoever – wasn’t produced at a Mint facility. The one-ounce “pure gold” bar was purchased by Ottawa jeweller Samuel Tang at a local RBC branch this October; however, Tang’s initial testing of the bar showed no signs of gold. After the Mint and RBC initially refused to accept the returned bar, Tang contacted CBC News and expressed his concerns about counterfeits on the market. RBC then retrieved the bar and and returned it to the Mint for testing while refunding Tang the purchase price of $1,680. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police were also made aware of the incident. “The Mint did not manufacture, ship or sell the above-mentioned product,” the Mint said in a statement following its investigation, adding the ensuing media coverage has “raised unfounded speculation as to the origins of the counterfeit and the purity of Royal Canadian Mint bullion products.” Continue Reading. Link [link to canadiancoinnews.us8.list-manage.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame The guy is a gypsy griffter. He didnt even try to buy the bar from the mint. He claimed he supposedly went to a bank and bought the fake bar. Anybody with even a little bit of knowledge could spot a fake. He supposedly(highly unlikely) claims he bought the bar from a canadian bank then tries to blame the mint. Fuckin loser! You need to be held accountable for slander and liabel against the mint. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75578792 Canada11/03/2017 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame But if he did buy it from a RBC Branch and has the receipt to prove it, then it's up to RBC and the Royal Canadian Mint to determine how it came into their possession to be sold. Since RBC refunded him his $1600 after making complaints through the media, I'm assuming he had a valid receipt otherwise RBC would state that there was no proof he purchased from them. Not seeing the point of this. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame But if he did buy it from a RBC Branch and has the receipt to prove it, then it's up to RBC and the Royal Canadian Mint to determine how it came into their possession to be sold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578792 Since RBC refunded him his $1600 after making complaints through the media, I'm assuming he had a valid receipt otherwise RBC would state that there was no proof he purchased from them. Not seeing the point of this. No, If you believe this guys story that he bought the bar from the bank then why would the mint be responsible? Thats like saying apple is responsible for the bogus phone i bought 2nd hand off of kijiji |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame But if he did buy it from a RBC Branch and has the receipt to prove it, then it's up to RBC and the Royal Canadian Mint to determine how it came into their possession to be sold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578792 Since RBC refunded him his $1600 after making complaints through the media, I'm assuming he had a valid receipt otherwise RBC would state that there was no proof he purchased from them. Not seeing the point of this. No, If you believe this guys story that he bought the bar from the bank then why would the mint be responsible? Thats like saying apple is responsible for the bogus phone i bought 2nd hand off of kijiji There is no reason in the world that this guy should be compensated by the mint! None. Just because he is immigrant and goes crying to the media shouldnt be an insurance policy for him. If anybody is to blame should be him and bank. Not the taxpayers or mint. The idiots at the mint need to be fired for compensating the idiot who bought the bar |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75578792 Canada11/03/2017 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame No, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 If you believe this guys story that he bought the bar from the bank then why would the mint be responsible? Thats like saying apple is responsible for the bogus phone i bought 2nd hand off of kijiji Not gonna waste my time to search and watch the video again, but my impression was that he said that the Mint should be 'concerned' that there could be others with fake bars because most people don't take the bars out of the original packaging and trust the institutions that they purchase from are giving them something real. I don't think that's the same thing as him saying that the Mint is RESPONSIBLE for this fake bar he purchased. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame But if he did buy it from a RBC Branch and has the receipt to prove it, then it's up to RBC and the Royal Canadian Mint to determine how it came into their possession to be sold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578792 Since RBC refunded him his $1600 after making complaints through the media, I'm assuming he had a valid receipt otherwise RBC would state that there was no proof he purchased from them. Not seeing the point of this. How can you take his word? Bank never takes my word for anything! One easily pretend to buy from the bank and switchit outside andmarch right back in.. If RBC doesn't know how to trade and spot fake gold bars the RBC shouldnt be in the gold buying/selling business. And if the grifter cant spot fake gold then he shouldnt be buying it either. Nobody that has the slightest modicum of knowledge buys physical gold or silver(or any other PM) from a bank. Nobody! It reeks of amateur. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75578792 Canada11/03/2017 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame There is no reason in the world that this guy should be compensated by the mint! None. Just because he is immigrant and goes crying to the media shouldnt be an insurance policy for him. If anybody is to blame should be him and bank. Not the taxpayers or mint. The idiots at the mint need to be fired for compensating the idiot who bought the bar Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 "RBC then retrieved the bar and and returned it to the Mint for testing while refunding Tang the purchase price of $1,680. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police were also made aware of the incident." I think you misread the statement. Re-read it again and you'll understand that >>>RBC then retrieved the bar and returned it to the Mint for testing... while (RBC) also refunding Tang the purchase.<<< Not the Mint refunding. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75578792 Canada11/03/2017 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame How can you take his word? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 Bank never takes my word for anything! One easily pretend to buy from the bank and switchit outside andmarch right back in.. If RBC doesn't know how to trade and spot fake gold bars the RBC shouldnt be in the gold buying/selling business. And if the grifter cant spot fake gold then he shouldnt be buying it either. Nobody that has the slightest modicum of knowledge buys physical gold or silver(or any other PM) from a bank. Nobody! It reeks of amateur. It's called a paper trail... um, nm, I can tell logic isn't gonna go anywhere. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame No, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 If you believe this guys story that he bought the bar from the bank then why would the mint be responsible? Thats like saying apple is responsible for the bogus phone i bought 2nd hand off of kijiji Not gonna waste my time to search and watch the video again, but my impression was that he said that the Mint should be 'concerned' that there could be others with fake bars because most people don't take the bars out of the original packaging and trust the institutions that they purchase from are giving them something real. I don't think that's the same thing as him saying that the Mint is RESPONSIBLE for this fake bar he purchased. How is mint responsible in anyway? They arent? If there are counterfiets coming in then its from 3rd world countries. And china |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75578792 Canada11/03/2017 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame But if he did buy it from a RBC Branch and has the receipt to prove it, then it's up to RBC and the Royal Canadian Mint to determine how it came into their possession to be sold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578792 Since RBC refunded him his $1600 after making complaints through the media, I'm assuming he had a valid receipt otherwise RBC would state that there was no proof he purchased from them. Not seeing the point of this. How can you take his word? Bank never takes my word for anything! One easily pretend to buy from the bank and switchit outside andmarch right back in.. If RBC doesn't know how to trade and spot fake gold bars the RBC shouldnt be in the gold buying/selling business. And if the grifter cant spot fake gold then he shouldnt be buying it either. Nobody that has the slightest modicum of knowledge buys physical gold or silver(or any other PM) from a bank. Nobody! It reeks of amateur. Ok, I answered a bit quick. If you're implying that he's scamming RBC, then that's something different and I would agree that RBC should do a full investigation before just taking his 'word'. Of course RBC can just refuse to sell him anything in the future as he doesn't have a 'right' to purchase from them and they are not 'required' by law to transact with him if they think that was the case. He can always buy from other places so they're not depriving him of any rights. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame How can you take his word? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 Bank never takes my word for anything! One easily pretend to buy from the bank and switchit outside andmarch right back in.. If RBC doesn't know how to trade and spot fake gold bars the RBC shouldnt be in the gold buying/selling business. And if the grifter cant spot fake gold then he shouldnt be buying it either. Nobody that has the slightest modicum of knowledge buys physical gold or silver(or any other PM) from a bank. Nobody! It reeks of amateur. It's called a paper trail... um, nm, I can tell logic isn't gonna go anywhere. Who cares about a paper trail? I can provide numerous pieces of paper to gold and silver ive purchased throughout the years. Unless, he spotted it right there in the bank without having having left for any amount of time. Paper trail is meaningless. I can go buy fake bars from china and then match a bar to an old reciept and go kick in there front doors of my pm dealers screaming shenanigans! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75592404  United States11/03/2017 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame Of course the mint will deny this. Of course the victim is now a “grifter.” Of course, of course, of course. Gov’t agencies could NEVER do anything wrong, eh? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75734920 Canada11/03/2017 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame But if he did buy it from a RBC Branch and has the receipt to prove it, then it's up to RBC and the Royal Canadian Mint to determine how it came into their possession to be sold. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578792 Since RBC refunded him his $1600 after making complaints through the media, I'm assuming he had a valid receipt otherwise RBC would state that there was no proof he purchased from them. Not seeing the point of this. How can you take his word? Bank never takes my word for anything! One easily pretend to buy from the bank and switchit outside andmarch right back in.. If RBC doesn't know how to trade and spot fake gold bars the RBC shouldnt be in the gold buying/selling business. And if the grifter cant spot fake gold then he shouldnt be buying it either. Nobody that has the slightest modicum of knowledge buys physical gold or silver(or any other PM) from a bank. Nobody! It reeks of amateur. Ok, I answered a bit quick. If you're implying that he's scamming RBC, then that's something different and I would agree that RBC should do a full investigation before just taking his 'word'. Of course RBC can just refuse to sell him anything in the future as he doesn't have a 'right' to purchase from them and they are not 'required' by law to transact with him if they think that was the case. He can always buy from other places so they're not depriving him of any rights. The problem is the damage he caused to the RCM him trying to get recompensated from the bank/mint, he deserves nothing |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75578792 Canada11/03/2017 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame The problem is the damage he caused to the RCM him trying to get recompensated from the bank/mint, he deserves nothing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75734920 Depends on how RBC wants to handle the issue. The refund is definitely written off as insurance policy, but whether they dust the issue under the rug or open an internal investigation and assign an investigator on it for possible fraud is up to them. It would depend on their checks and balances. If they thoroughly test, document and have good checks and balances for all inventory (gold, silver, platinum) upon receiving them, than they can conclude that EITHER Tang could be lying and have returned a fake bar while keeping the real bar, OR that the bar was switched INTERNALLY by an inside RBC employee and Tang really did receive a fake bar. Anyways, I'm not gonna waste any more brain cells on this. Good luck to all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74591626 Canada11/03/2017 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FACT: Fake gold bar didn’t originate at Royal Canadian Mint- this guy is an idiot to think the RCM is resposible! Typical of immigrants to blame So basically we don't know if the god bar really originated from a RBC bank, but we know that a RBC bank refunded the money to him? I guess that other clients should probably test their bar to see if it's pure gold or not. |
