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Did Congress & Trump Provide the Ultimate TAX Remedy? Hidden In the Rules? (No More Income Tax?)

 
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I love my POTUS so much!

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Op I'v got news for you, it wasn't the potus that snuck

that into the bill.


Congress has known for years they have been illegally taxing the american people.

now they made it legal.
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^^^From what the article states, they've now stopped the courts from enforcing the illegal income tax.

I must admit the writing was a little dense and I may have misconstrued some things, but that's how I understood it.
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I thought this needed pinning so......

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Well, who's going to try it first ?
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The income tax has nothing to do with the constitution. If anything it has to do with the law of contract. Plus as I like to say, it is voluntary. After you volunteer, it is mandatory.
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here are photocopies of a 1943 1040 that says voluntary on it, if the link works.
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it says optional
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Surly I'm not the only one that has gotten wind of an actual jubilee....one is very long over due!!!
Lets go Brandon!!

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I thought this needed pinning so......

fivestars
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Once you've had a chance to read it I'd like to hear your opinion, sir.
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"zero knowledge proof" crypto currencies offer 100% anonymity practically making federal taxes moot.

(Not to mention 100% privacy on FULLY Decentralized exchanges).

Tax revenues are about to drop like a lead balloon!

Prepare for switch to consumption based (sales) taxes.

....And watch them become powerless as the privacy centric "Virtual Economy" gains traction.


5a
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Doesn't do much good floating around in decentralized exchanges. Some day you need to convert that to fiat. You put that money into your bank account then what?
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I thought this needed pinning so......

fivestars
 Quoting: The Old Timer


Once you've had a chance to read it I'd like to hear your opinion, sir.
 Quoting: Flyover County


I read it, but I was hoping someone with a legal background would chime in. It's a long article, but if it's something as important as de-clawing the IRS, it's worth it.

hf
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Well, who's going to try it first ?
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If so then taxing btc is a fail.unless gove gave it an exemption.if btc is free to run then dollars will fail.with time.as it stands right now,all land school and fines are required by law to accept dollars as payment.of course gov entities dont make change but they are required to accept it instead of check or card,if one chooses.
We had a corrupt court in town and for a while they required all fines and probation fees in postal money orders.
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I'm a Dreamer...I want tax amnesty..!!!! Never Pay Again..!!!!
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you already have it genius.
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lmao
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The income tax has nothing to do with the constitution. If anything it has to do with the law of contract. Plus as I like to say, it is voluntary. After you volunteer, it is mandatory.
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The SSN is the contract.
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If so then taxing btc is a fail.unless gove gave it an exemption.if btc is free to run then dollars will fail.with time.as it stands right now,all land school and fines are required by law to accept dollars as payment.of course gov entities dont make change but they are required to accept it instead of check or card,if one chooses.
We had a corrupt court in town and for a while they required all fines and probation fees in postal money orders.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76157282


I wouldn't think btc is income, unless you're being paid in it. I don't even know how or if they have a classification for it yet.
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it says optional
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Maybe the form is optional. You use the 1040 if you don’t itemize.
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Sounds like this could end up in the US Supreme Court
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Would be great if it's true, however, we have al seen or read about people cite this or that law and still end up in the pokey.

Bump for discussion anyway.
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It was just made effective January 1st.
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Reminds me of the sovereign citizens, and how that boat sank.

Looks like a duck, but I suppose we'll have to see if it quacks like one.
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Land and school taxes ,all gov taxes paid in dollars.
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I thought this needed pinning so......

:fivestars:
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Once you've had a chance to read it I'd like to hear your opinion, sir.
 Quoting: Flyover County


So would I...just wondering if "pay taxes or die" will become something of the past? And what it says about the accruing, "criminal" penalty and interest they charge?
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If btc makes a profit and you sell,just like a commodity.that string of code is a commodity.
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"zero knowledge proof" crypto currencies offer 100% anonymity practically making federal taxes moot.

(Not to mention 100% privacy on FULLY Decentralized exchanges).

Tax revenues are about to drop like a lead balloon!

Prepare for switch to consumption based (sales) taxes.

....And watch them become powerless as the privacy centric "Virtual Economy" gains traction.


5a
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Anyone else out there a fan of the Neil Boortz "Fair Tax" book? It's about 10 years old now but still a damn strong argument
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Usually, when something sounds too good to be true....
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My favorite part -


3. completely exposes the federal judiciary’s unlawful enforcement of the federal personal income tax under the 16th Amendment over the last 60 years of American history, as nothing but a complete and total judicially committed fraud that plainly and clearly can now be seen as the true judicial conspiracy of sedition that it is,

– to undermine and remove the constitutional limitations placed upon the federal taxing powers, in order to enforce the unconstitutionally direct taxation of the labors and work (“wages” and “salaries“) of the American People, in order to fund, not the legitimate operation of the government, but the constitutionally unauthorized progressive, liberal, Fabian, socialist programs effecting the re-distribution of wealth that have been by used by the politicians to create the welfare based, class warfare system of taxation that has resulted in the divisive destruction of America, its people’s Freedom, Liberty, private property, and equal rights;

Don't we have some lawyers to comprehend this legal mumbo jumbo?

TY RF for the post!

bump

Last Edited by Blessed E v on 01/22/2018 07:33 PM
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Surly I'm not the only one that has gotten wind of an actual jubilee....one is very long over due!!!
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Miracle one - a high ranking, brave genius uses the apparatus of the government to overturn and bring to justice (still ongoing) the system of thieves - has occurred.

So... miracle two is now a real possibility.
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My favorite part -


3. completely exposes the federal judiciary’s unlawful enforcement of the federal personal income tax under the 16th Amendment over the last 60 years of American history, as nothing but a complete and total judicially committed fraud that plainly and clearly can now be seen as the true judicial conspiracy of sedition that it is,

– to undermine and remove the constitutional limitations placed upon the federal taxing powers, in order to enforce the unconstitutionally direct taxation of the labors and work (“wages” and “salaries“) of the American People, in order to fund, not the legitimate operation of the government, but the constitutionally unauthorized progressive, liberal, Fabian, socialist programs effecting the re-distribution of wealth that have been by used by the politicians to create the welfare based, class warfare system of taxation that has resulted in the divisive destruction of America, its people’s Freedom, Liberty, private property, and equal rights;

Don't we have some lawyers to comprehend this legal mumbo jumbo?

TY RF for the post!

bump
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Hmm. I'll reserve judgment until I see it applied in court.
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Same old shit.

The day we get to stop paying income tax will be the day shit truly hits the fucking fan and it wont matter anymore.
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