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How can you force someone who is going to rent out there home who they have to rent to?

What about communities that have HOA's?

What about Golf Club Communities

What about Country Club Communities?

Just make the rent impossible for someone on gov't vouchers to pay....


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I am going to ignore the racial overtones and comments on this thread just to make a few points.

First: I have known 2 people (maybe more) in my life on Section 8.
One is a mother of 4 who works her butt off and could not survive without it. Has wonderful kids who are smart and polite. And the mom dreams of starting her own business.

The second person I know is a woman who grew up in a horrible ghetto with a drug addicted mom who died of AIDS. She became a single mom herself. Worked like a dog, got a college degree and now is a successful homeowner with a dynamite job.

Second: The people who receive the help have to jump thru all types of hoops to get it. Fill out endless forms, meet deadlines, wait in lines. Constantly follow-up, etc.
The LANDLORD/SLUMLORD who actually GETS the money doesn't have to do CRAP! And they usually DON'T. They get the money straight from the government so if the tenant has issues with things they don't even return the calls half the time.
Additionally, they charge almost double the rent when the government is paying for it.

And lastly, the program needs to be changed to GIVE the money to the people who are using it and help them buy homes that they can actually afford, even if it is a trailer. That would be a better use of the money and I am sure that if the people on the receiving end had a stake in it they would do much better than the way things are done currently.

Just my 2 cents.
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I'm tired of hearing about the poor. Since I was a kid the poor haven't figured out how to get out poverty, yet we ALL know how to get out of poverty.

1. Work

2. spend less than you make

That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The Poor is usually druggies...

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I'm tired of hearing about the poor. Since I was a kid the poor haven't figured out how to get out poverty, yet we ALL know how to get out of poverty.

1. Work

2. spend less than you make

That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The Poor is usually druggies...

 Quoting: christian


"blessed are the poor"

Phoney.
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I am going to ignore the racial overtones and comments on this thread just to make a few points.

First: I have known 2 people (maybe more) in my life on Section 8.
One is a mother of 4 who works her butt off and could not survive without it. Has wonderful kids who are smart and polite. And the mom dreams of starting her own business.

The second person I know is a woman who grew up in a horrible ghetto with a drug addicted mom who died of AIDS. She became a single mom herself. Worked like a dog, got a college degree and now is a successful homeowner with a dynamite job.

Second: The people who receive the help have to jump thru all types of hoops to get it. Fill out endless forms, meet deadlines, wait in lines. Constantly follow-up, etc.
The LANDLORD/SLUMLORD who actually GETS the money doesn't have to do CRAP! And they usually DON'T. They get the money straight from the government so if the tenant has issues with things they don't even return the calls half the time.
Additionally, they charge almost double the rent when the government is paying for it.

And lastly, the program needs to be changed to GIVE the money to the people who are using it and help them buy homes that they can actually afford, even if it is a trailer. That would be a better use of the money and I am sure that if the people on the receiving end had a stake in it they would do much better than the way things are done currently.

Just my 2 cents.
 Quoting: HereWeAre



This is the problem of the Destruction of the Nuclear Family.

You said a Mom with 4 kids..Where is the Dad? Why isn't he paying for his children?

Where is the FAMILY? If I was ever homeless which I never have been...I would go home..

HOME is where your family is..Mom Dad, Brother Sister...

How did the Frontier Era Family survive? They stuck together in the harshest of Conditions.

People have to realize the Government is NOT your family or friends.

Susie

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I'm tired of hearing about the poor. Since I was a kid the poor haven't figured out how to get out poverty, yet we ALL know how to get out of poverty.

1. Work

2. spend less than you make

That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The Poor is usually druggies...

 Quoting: christian


"blessed are the poor"

Phoney.
 Quoting: Pumuckl



"blessed are the poor" IN SPIRIT!
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I'm tired of hearing about the poor. Since I was a kid the poor haven't figured out how to get out poverty, yet we ALL know how to get out of poverty.

1. Work

2. spend less than you make

That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The Poor is usually druggies...

 Quoting: christian


"blessed are the poor"

Phoney.
 Quoting: Pumuckl



"blessed are the poor" IN SPIRIT!
 Quoting: christian


And you are neither, I am sure.
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"The biggest beneficiaries of the government safety net: Working-class whites"

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The Poor is usually druggies...

 Quoting: christian


"blessed are the poor"

Phoney.
 Quoting: Pumuckl



"blessed are the poor" IN SPIRIT!
 Quoting: christian


And you are neither, I am sure.
 Quoting: Pumuckl




No I am not and I count my blessings every day...

I still live in a Country that does not persecute Christians, for praying and hope never to see that day !

I am blessed to have family and friends.....

I will always help those in need where and when I can because that is the mission of the Church and not Ceasar.

Susie

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Government helping out with Housing?

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

Remember the housing crash caused by giving loans to people with no earthly way of ever paying them back?

????????????
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This is not about renting to the "poor", it is about putting "minorities" into affluent "white" neighborhoods. (more specifically, blacks).

This program was started when Julian Castro was in charge of HUD under Obama. They wanted to gather racial makeup information about certain housing areas, and if they determined that there was too many white people living there, they would put Section 8 housing in these areas, and put minorities there, because they never had the ability to live in a rich neighborhood. Which raises a lot of questions. Are they subsidizing, one very expensive house, when they could have gotten 6 or 8 cheaper houses in a lower income area (middle class). Who will be paying the HOA fees? If the new "Section 8 residents, trash the property, which they are very likely to do, what recourse will the HOA have against HUD?

I had hoped this program would be discontinued when Obama left office, but apparently, it has not. Another stupid Marxist program!!
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100% CORRECT,,,the program is called Affirmatively furthering Fair Housing and Stanley Kurtz wrote a book on it.

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I am going to ignore the racial overtones and comments on this thread just to make a few points.

First: I have known 2 people (maybe more) in my life on Section 8.
One is a mother of 4 who works her butt off and could not survive without it. Has wonderful kids who are smart and polite. And the mom dreams of starting her own business.

The second person I know is a woman who grew up in a horrible ghetto with a drug addicted mom who died of AIDS. She became a single mom herself. Worked like a dog, got a college degree and now is a successful homeowner with a dynamite job.

Second: The people who receive the help have to jump thru all types of hoops to get it. Fill out endless forms, meet deadlines, wait in lines. Constantly follow-up, etc.
The LANDLORD/SLUMLORD who actually GETS the money doesn't have to do CRAP! And they usually DON'T. They get the money straight from the government so if the tenant has issues with things they don't even return the calls half the time.
Additionally, they charge almost double the rent when the government is paying for it.

And lastly, the program needs to be changed to GIVE the money to the people who are using it and help them buy homes that they can actually afford, even if it is a trailer. That would be a better use of the money and I am sure that if the people on the receiving end had a stake in it they would do much better than the way things are done currently.

Just my 2 cents.
 Quoting: HereWeAre



This is the problem of the Destruction of the Nuclear Family.

You said a Mom with 4 kids..Where is the Dad? Why isn't he paying for his children?

Where is the FAMILY? If I was ever homeless which I never have been...I would go home..

HOME is where your family is..Mom Dad, Brother Sister...

How did the Frontier Era Family survive? They stuck together in the harshest of Conditions.

People have to realize the Government is NOT your family or friends.

 Quoting: christian


You are very fortunate that you can go HOME. Some people cannot. I am one of them. I do not depend on the government and do not get any assistance whatsoever.
Sometimes people DIE and then there is no one to take care of things. Do you ever see any other side of an issue, except your own racially biased opinion?
And by the way, when section 8 first came out, it was basically for WHITE people and helped them BUY homes. When it was offered to BLACKS the program CHANGED and then the landlords got the money and could only be used for RENT, the people who applied for it can't buy anything with it.
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And you really need to change your moniker. You are anything BUT... just saying.
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If you own private property and rent that private property, they are forcing you to take in Section 8 income. forcing you to be placed on a list of available housing for Section 8 candidates..

This is another case of government telling you what you can and can't do with your own property,business or body.


If you need to apply for Section 8 housing okay not a problem I'm not going to discriminate against you.. but fuck if the government has to get involved and tell me who I can and can't have on my own property

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My mother lost EVERYTHING. Vehicle broke/ engine block cracked/ sold the remains of the van to a guy who kindly bought it for a chicken coop.

Took the Greyhound.

Did secretarial-legal transcriptions for a guy who let us stay in the garage of his thriftstore/warehouse. He was an actual activist.

Ended up in the projects. No furniture, nothing.

Baked bread with the commodity flour. Gave loaves to the neighbors; furniture trickled in.

Went to work for the housing authority collecting rent in the same project.

Bought a house you wouldn't accept as a shed. Paid it off, tore it down, rebuilt with cement block.

Social services are a real help in time of trouble.

But, with work, you can get back on your feet
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What the hell, Carson?!

Time for a new HUD secretary, Mr. President. This one is defective.
 Quoting: Revbo™


Agree. He wasn't supposed to jam Section 8 down landlords' throats. He was supposed to wind down the Section 8 program, so these permanent benefit recipients could be rolled off and new people maybe given a chance for a few years of help.

You can't get on Section 8 now, haven't been able to for 5 or 10 years. But those who are getting it, can get it forever, and now they want to bring them to a formerly decent apartment complex near you.
 Quoting: Rosenkrantz


Yup, you haven't been able to get Section 8 for a long time in Florida, according to their website, so I wonder who's getting all the $$. I'm pretty sure I read that the illegals, oops, I mean "migrants" get the housing now.

We had one move in here and turned out to be a big time drug dealer, cops here all the time, weird expensive cars all the time coming and going. He would meet people on the in the front of complex all the time all day long.
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Corporate shills like families who don't want Section 8 bums in their neighborhood? Why should those bums get for free or almost free, what everyone must pay market rate for? Those bums have been on it for 10 years or more, but newly poor people can't get that help.
 Quoting: Rosenkrantz


They have to live somewhere. You want them to be homeless?
 Quoting: Pumuckl


We are going to send them to germany where mythical idiots and sick people throw thier child down the dumpster so everybody can see how enlightened and benevolent they are (plain cheap vanity) no matter how self defeating and stupid it is. So open up the rhinenhausen, you are getting a bunch more precious africans to serve and protect. We will help by renting to refugee germans who escape new mordor....
 Quoting: Timur2020


I am quite positive most poor americans are white.
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Like I said earlier, this is not about the "poor", it is about "forced diversity"!
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Someone should start selling section 8 insurance. In the event the property is trashed it has to pay to restore the property. I'm sure it will be very expensive let the government pay for it.
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Make the government responsible for the insurance. Perfect. nodding
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well this wont hold up in scotus
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Fuck the poor.
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Fuck YOU!

I'm poor- where do I sign up???
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Fuck the poor.
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Fuck YOU!

I'm poor- where do I sign up???
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THIS WONT HOLD UP IN SCOTUS
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I'm tired of hearing about the poor. Since I was a kid the poor haven't figured out how to get out poverty, yet we ALL know how to get out of poverty.

1. Work

2. spend less than you make

That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The Poor is usually druggies...

 Quoting: christian


You are a fake.
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I'm tired of hearing about the poor. Since I was a kid the poor haven't figured out how to get out poverty, yet we ALL know how to get out of poverty.

1. Work

2. spend less than you make

That's all there is to it.
 Quoting: BRIEF


The Poor is usually druggies...

 Quoting: christian


"blessed are the poor"

Phoney.
 Quoting: Pumuckl



"blessed are the poor" IN SPIRIT!
 Quoting: christian


Proverbs 17:5 - Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: [and] he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.
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Unfortunately for the property owner, renting to the poor under subsidized voucher programs will almost always result in the home being damaged, a neighborhood increase in crime, and decrease in property values.
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I am going to ignore the racial overtones and comments on this thread just to make a few points.

First: I have known 2 people (maybe more) in my life on Section 8.
One is a mother of 4 who works her butt off and could not survive without it. Has wonderful kids who are smart and polite. And the mom dreams of starting her own business.

The second person I know is a woman who grew up in a horrible ghetto with a drug addicted mom who died of AIDS. She became a single mom herself. Worked like a dog, got a college degree and now is a successful homeowner with a dynamite job.

Second: The people who receive the help have to jump thru all types of hoops to get it. Fill out endless forms, meet deadlines, wait in lines. Constantly follow-up, etc.
The LANDLORD/SLUMLORD who actually GETS the money doesn't have to do CRAP! And they usually DON'T. They get the money straight from the government so if the tenant has issues with things they don't even return the calls half the time.
Additionally, they charge almost double the rent when the government is paying for it.

And lastly, the program needs to be changed to GIVE the money to the people who are using it and help them buy homes that they can actually afford, even if it is a trailer. That would be a better use of the money and I am sure that if the people on the receiving end had a stake in it they would do much better than the way things are done currently.

Just my 2 cents.
 Quoting: HereWeAre



This is the problem of the Destruction of the Nuclear Family.

You said a Mom with 4 kids..Where is the Dad? Why isn't he paying for his children?

Where is the FAMILY? If I was ever homeless which I never have been...I would go home..

HOME is where your family is..Mom Dad, Brother Sister...

How did the Frontier Era Family survive? They stuck together in the harshest of Conditions.

People have to realize the Government is NOT your family or friends.

 Quoting: christian


You are very fortunate that you can go HOME. Some people cannot. I am one of them. I do not depend on the government and do not get any assistance whatsoever.
Sometimes people DIE and then there is no one to take care of things. Do you ever see any other side of an issue, except your own racially biased opinion?
And by the way, when section 8 first came out, it was basically for WHITE people and helped them BUY homes. When it was offered to BLACKS the program CHANGED and then the landlords got the money and could only be used for RENT, the people who applied for it can't buy anything with it.
 Quoting: HereWeAre


First, I didn't see the person you responded to making any racial statements in this thread, so how can you assume that their opinion is racially biased? Second, do you have any evidence that Section 8 was originally for white people as in something I can actually read? I just spent some time just now doing some research and see no such thing.

Also, from what I see section 8 has always been about rental housing and never about purchasing houses. Section 8 refers to the fact that it is Section 8 of the Housing Act of 1937.

"Section 8 of the Housing Act of 1937 (42 U.S.C. § 1437f), often called Section 8, as repeatedly amended, authorizes the payment of rental housing assistance to private landlords on behalf of approximately 4.8 million low-income households, as of 2008,[1] in the United States."

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"The Act was amended again in 1974 to create Section 8. This new law signified a switch in focus. Instead of developing and managing public housing, it sought to help low-income people who were spending too large a percentage of their earnings on housing. Federal funds now paid a share of rent in units renters chose on the open market. Since 1974, legislation has refined and restructured the Section 8 program several times."

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Force you to house hoodrats. Fuck you Carson.
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Give a white man bricks and he will build a house. Give a black man a house and he will give you the bricks.

Is the government going to pay the damages they will leave as they strip it bare to the walls?
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"This week the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) launched a special Landlord Taskforce to coerce more property owners to accept the taxpayer-funded subsidies (Housing Choice Voucher—HCV) issued to millions of poor people around the country. HUD Secretary Ben Carson created the special task force after studies conducted by leftist entities found that most landlords don’t accept the government vouchers, especially in nicer neighborhoods.

One of the studies was conducted by the Urban Institute, which is funded by George Soros’ Open Society Foundations (OSF) along with a roster of other leftist supporters."

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Nice! Nothing like strong-arming people into doing something with their own personal property and doing it with Soro's backing to-boot.
 Quoting: TrustNoOneKS


... in Trump's Administration.





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