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200 year old Brazil national history museum engulfed in flames!!
Over 20 million historical artifacts, including "Lucy" or "Luzia" the supposed first human. This is an absolute tragedy. Dare I say it's delibrate? Or a result of poor government spending and care? Both?

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Sorry bad link. Here's new one.

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Brazil is a shithole, with shitty people with an even shittier government. And pay attention to the flag in my post...
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Wow, that is a huge loss of structure as well as contents, wonder if it was insured?
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For me the fire of the museum is a metaphor of what Brazil has become.
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night at the museum is predictive programming.
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This was the most important museum in Latin America.

If I could post photos here would show what was lost. Bones of dinosaurs, mummies, sarcophagi, jewels of the Brazilian crown ... All lost.
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Hydrants ran out of water....building was in disrepair....

Tragic loss. WTF
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This was the most important museum in Latin America.

If I could post photos here would show what was lost. Bones of dinosaurs, mummies, sarcophagi, jewels of the Brazilian crown ... All lost.
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Sorry for your loss
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It's a great metaphor about what the elite government has been doing the last few years.

We're under a judicial dictatorship, people are starving again, for God's sake, the Supreme Court has just approved slavery again at the same week the coupist "President" gave all the judges a 16% salary raise, meaning they will now make over 39.000 Reais/month while most workers can't make more then 900 Reais/month.

Curiously, in the same week, they are not allowing the most popular candidate Lula to run for President, the one guy who took millions out of poverty and starvation and brought free and good quality Universities for the poor. The judges who condemned him are all Masons who are friends with Lula's political adversaries.
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It's a great metaphor about what the elite government has been doing the last few years.

We're under a judicial dictatorship, people are starving again, for God's sake, the Supreme Court has just approved slavery again at the same week the coupist "President" gave all the judges a 16% salary raise, meaning they will now make over 39.000 Reais/month while most workers can't make more then 900 Reais/month.

Curiously, in the same week, they are not allowing the most popular candidate Lula to run for President, the one guy who took millions out of poverty and starvation and brought free and good quality Universities for the poor. The judges who condemned him are all Masons who are friends with Lula's political adversaries.
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THAT SUCKS
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It's a great metaphor about what the elite government has been doing the last few years.

We're under a judicial dictatorship, people are starving again, for God's sake, the Supreme Court has just approved slavery again at the same week the coupist "President" gave all the judges a 16% salary raise, meaning they will now make over 39.000 Reais/month while most workers can't make more then 900 Reais/month.

Curiously, in the same week, they are not allowing the most popular candidate Lula to run for President, the one guy who took millions out of poverty and starvation and brought free and good quality Universities for the poor. The judges who condemned him are all Masons who are friends with Lula's political adversaries.
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That's exactly what I said when I heard about the fire. That this was a metaphor for Brazil.

But I'm sorry, in the rest you're completely wrong.

First of all, this elite of the government you speak came to power as Dilma Rousseff's vice president. President and Vice President YOU HAVE CHOSEN. And I'm not defending Michel Temer here because he's another bad guy.

The economy of Brazil had already gone to the hole since the time of Dilma Rousseff and it was precisely for this reason that the population was in weight for the streets to ask for the impeachment of it. In addition, she committed a fiscal responsibility crime that was a "fiscal pedal".

As for being in a judicial dictatorship, I agree with you. The problem is that this judicial dictatorship is there to harm the conservatives. People are starving because of the economic measures taken by Dilma Rousseff and even the measures taken by Lula who set up a time bomb to explode on the other president's lap. (Dilma and Lula are from the same party and it was he who campaigned to elect her)

I agree that this salary increase for the judges is completely absurd.

The Lula can not participate in the election because under Brazilian law convicted in crime of corruption in the second instance can not be candidates.
Lula has already been tried and convicted in the first and second instance. He received an apartment from a contractor as a form of bribe.

As I already know you will say that there is no evidence against it I will leave here listed some:

1) Delation of the contractor.
2) Testimony of the janitor of the building
3) Testimony of the architect who did the remodeling in the apartment at the request of Lula's wife.
4) Term of adhesion found in Lula's apartment in the name of Lula's wife.
5) Federal Police Skills

And I could go on until about 17 tests that I know.

Lula did not take millions out of poverty and misery. They kept them in poverty and misery by buying their votes with a few crumbs.
The Brazilian Universities are trash and the magazine Nature even produced an article talking about the academic waste that is produced in Brazil.

As for the judges being Freemasons, I agree with you. But you forgot a detail. Lula and Dilma Rousseff have indicated most of the ministers of the Supreme Court.
He is only arrested and convicted because the evidence against him is robust and unmistakable and the media has passed on to it, and only gave repercussion because the information circulated strongly through the internet.

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Wow what a terrible loss :(
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That's awful.

And Lucy is no more?
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This was the most important museum in Latin America.

If I could post photos here would show what was lost. Bones of dinosaurs, mummies, sarcophagi, jewels of the Brazilian crown ... All lost.
 Quoting: Beast Baby


It truly is sad.
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It's a great metaphor about what the elite government has been doing the last few years.

We're under a judicial dictatorship, people are starving again, for God's sake, the Supreme Court has just approved slavery again at the same week the coupist "President" gave all the judges a 16% salary raise, meaning they will now make over 39.000 Reais/month while most workers can't make more then 900 Reais/month.

Curiously, in the same week, they are not allowing the most popular candidate Lula to run for President, the one guy who took millions out of poverty and starvation and brought free and good quality Universities for the poor. The judges who condemned him are all Masons who are friends with Lula's political adversaries.
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I've always said the people have the power. Brazil's people just don't feel that way though. Understandably so. I couldn't imagine, And people think its bad here in the state's lol. I laugh when I consider other prospects.
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That's awful.

And Lucy is no more?
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It is where lucy was displayed so I'm assuming so. Haven't had any luck finding confirmation but the situation is still progressing.
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Re: 200 year old Brazil national history museum engulfed in flames!!
It's a great metaphor about what the elite government has been doing the last few years.

We're under a judicial dictatorship, people are starving again, for God's sake, the Supreme Court has just approved slavery again at the same week the coupist "President" gave all the judges a 16% salary raise, meaning they will now make over 39.000 Reais/month while most workers can't make more then 900 Reais/month.

Curiously, in the same week, they are not allowing the most popular candidate Lula to run for President, the one guy who took millions out of poverty and starvation and brought free and good quality Universities for the poor. The judges who condemned him are all Masons who are friends with Lula's political adversaries.
 Quoting: SelinaF


That's exactly what I said when I heard about the fire. That this was a metaphor for Brazil.

But I'm sorry, in the rest you're completely wrong.

First of all, this elite of the government you speak came to power as Dilma Rousseff's vice president. President and Vice President YOU HAVE CHOSEN. And I'm not defending Michel Temer here because he's another bad guy.

The economy of Brazil had already gone to the hole since the time of Dilma Rousseff and it was precisely for this reason that the population was in weight for the streets to ask for the impeachment of it. In addition, she committed a fiscal responsibility crime that was a "fiscal pedal".

As for being in a judicial dictatorship, I agree with you. The problem is that this judicial dictatorship is there to harm the conservatives. People are starving because of the economic measures taken by Dilma Rousseff and even the measures taken by Lula who set up a time bomb to explode on the other president's lap. (Dilma and Lula are from the same party and it was he who campaigned to elect her)

I agree that this salary increase for the judges is completely absurd.

The Lula can not participate in the election because under Brazilian law convicted in crime of corruption in the second instance can not be candidates.
Lula has already been tried and convicted in the first and second instance. He received an apartment from a contractor as a form of bribe.

As I already know you will say that there is no evidence against it I will leave here listed some:

1) Delation of the contractor.
2) Testimony of the janitor of the building
3) Testimony of the architect who did the remodeling in the apartment at the request of Lula's wife.
4) Term of adhesion found in Lula's apartment in the name of Lula's wife.
5) Federal Police Skills

And I could go on until about 17 tests that I know.

Lula did not take millions out of poverty and misery. They kept them in poverty and misery by buying their votes with a few crumbs.
The Brazilian Universities are trash and the magazine Nature even produced an article talking about the academic waste that is produced in Brazil.

As for the judges being Freemasons, I agree with you. But you forgot a detail. Lula and Dilma Rousseff have indicated most of the ministers of the Supreme Court.
He is only arrested and convicted because the evidence against him is robust and unmistakable and the media has passed on to it, and only gave repercussion because the information circulated strongly through the internet.
 Quoting: Beast Baby


Spot on. This isn't even a glimpse into the major problems, but what are the solutions??
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The Portuguese seem to have lost the war.
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This was the most important museum in Latin America.

If I could post photos here would show what was lost. Bones of dinosaurs, mummies, sarcophagi, jewels of the Brazilian crown ... All lost.
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I remember this museum. I walked by it and around. I did not go inside.

I like the old part of Rio de Janeiro.



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All these artifacts gone in flames.

This is terribly sad.

R.I.P Lucy.

R.I.P. Brazil National History Museum.


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Sad day.
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This was the most important museum in Latin America.

If I could post photos here would show what was lost. Bones of dinosaurs, mummies, sarcophagi, jewels of the Brazilian crown ... All lost.
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Any artwork stolen by Nazis who fled there after the war?

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... and also the fire of the iconic building in Belfast

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... and also the fire of the iconic building in Liverpool

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Don't know what Lucy skeleton was doing at such a low grade museum.

But we do know that Lucy was not the first human, and not the only pre human or upright walking ape skeleton in the ground waiting to be discovered...
We must search more and find them. Siberia i think is a good place to look.
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Do you think it was looted first and the fire set to cover the looting?

There must have been things like gold artifacts from the Incas.
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There's a bunch of leftists here celebrating on social media and the main left wing coalition just used the tragedy for self promotion. No doubt, the reason our history is being erased is the widespread corruption of our people, but the simple fact that leftist SJW are happy with it shows that they would gladly destroy the "white european colonization history", had they the power.

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Don't know what Lucy skeleton was doing at such a low grade museum.

But we do know that Lucy was not the first human, and not the only pre human or upright walking ape skeleton in the ground waiting to be discovered...
We must search more and find them. Siberia i think is a good place to look.
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It was supposedly the oldest human remains found in the Americas. Surely there must be others, but it's a loss nonetheless. It just fuels my hopelessness for this country.
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Don't know what Lucy skeleton was doing at such a low grade museum.

But we do know that Lucy was not the first human, and not the only pre human or upright walking ape skeleton in the ground waiting to be discovered...
We must search more and find them. Siberia i think is a good place to look.
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It was supposedly the oldest human remains found in the Americas. Surely there must be others, but it's a loss nonetheless. It just fuels my hopelessness for this country.
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Lucy wasn't found in the Americas.
She is (or was) a 3 million year-old skeleton of Australopithicus Afarensis dug up in Ethiopia. Named after the Beatles song Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds.
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Don't know what Lucy skeleton was doing at such a low grade museum.

But we do know that Lucy was not the first human, and not the only pre human or upright walking ape skeleton in the ground waiting to be discovered...
We must search more and find them. Siberia i think is a good place to look.
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It was supposedly the oldest human remains found in the Americas. Surely there must be others, but it's a loss nonetheless. It just fuels my hopelessness for this country.
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Lucy wasn't found in the Americas.
She is (or was) a 3 million year-old skeleton of Australopithicus Afarensis dug up in Ethiopia. Named after the Beatles song Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds.
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That's another lucy. IDK how to link but you can just google oldest human remains in the americas. "Luzia Woman (Portuguese pronunciation: [luˈzi.ɐ]) is the name for an Upper Paleolithic period skeleton of a Paleo-Indian woman who was found in a cave in Brazil. Some archaeologists believe the young woman may have been part of the first wave of immigrants to South America. Nicknamed Luzia (her name pays homage to the famous African fossil "Lucy", who lived 3.2 million years ago), the 11,500-year-old skeleton was found in Lapa Vermelha, Brazil, in 1975 by archaeologist Annette Laming-Emperaire.[1]. The skeleton is feared lost in the National Museum of Brazil fire on September 2, 2018"


EDIT: Well aparently her name is luzia but the reporters here called her lucy. my bad

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