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 User ID: 77049137  United States10/23/2018 04:57 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: simplify You are boots on the ground in a key area....tks for reporting in to us. Question, were the caravan on "foot" or were they in buses, trucks, etc.? At their point of arriving here, they were on foot. However, I travel their route every 3 months and I can't believe that they were on foot much farther. It takes us 6 hours in car to go from where we live to Tapachula (where they are- the border with Tecum Uman). They were here one day, there the next. ... Quoting: thinking... WOW! Very alarming information. Are you Guatemalan or an expat living there? Do any of the more innocent locals realize they're used by the likes of Soros? Also do you know how much any were paid (as shown in the video of money being passed out)? I am an expat- born and raised in Southern Wisconsin. Truthfully, its just a very strange situation here. The people that we know are locals- many of whom have been deported from the US and who stayed here once they were removed. Fairly normal, pleasant people. I just don't know anyone that is crossing illegally right now. I know that the situation in Honduras is really, really bad. I have a friend whose husband is Honduran and they just sold their property there. They are scared to go back to sign the paperwork for sale because of the level of violence. It seems, to me, that the original group truly was full of people whose families had been killed by gangs, who had businesses that were extorted, whose children had been trafficked, etc. And, then, they're on some mysterious bus to take them back to Honduras? I just don't get it. And the people that take their place are all 'trying to start problems' and begin fights. The situation is really scary. There has to be a reason. Is it Honduras where MS13 calls home? I heard a guy call into a radio show last night and he was American with a home in Honduras or Guatemala (probably the later). When asked what it was like down there he said is was good if you had money but terrible if you were poor because there are virtually no services. Show host said the murder rate in Honduras is 90+ per 100K or more than ten x that of the US. It's got to be horrible. He asked the caller what percentage of the locals would come to the US if they had the chance and the caller said "ALL OF THEM"! Are any of these people welcome in other central American countries like Costa Rica or Panama? I doubt they'd be welcome in Panama, unless they were highly skilled or had money. Panama does not want people who are poor and unskilled. Hey, Bird Mom, glad to see another person who lives in central America posting. Are you Panamanian or an expat? I had an American friend who lived in Costa Rica for 20 years. She married a Costa Rican but after getting a divorce she had to provide bank and financial records every year to prove that she had an independent means of support and would not be a drain on the nation of CR. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| thinking...
User ID: 77049137 United States10/23/2018 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are any of these people welcome in other central American countries like Costa Rica or Panama? Quoting: thinking... Costa Rica still has requirements. All countries have requirements. They expect you to be a hard-working non-criminal with the ability to support yourself. Funny how there are requirements for legal immigrants but not illegals and "migrants", eh? BTW, your new president or PM (can't recall) - Salvini??? Is awesome! Love that guy. My favorite is Viktor Orban but your guy looks to be the same type with some real balls. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| wisconsin
User ID: 77044664 United States10/23/2018 05:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suspect they cleared out a few jails on the condition they go with the caravan to the US. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill . ... didn't castro/cuba do the same? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
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User ID: 77049137 United States10/23/2018 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went on a blind date with a Caucasian ex-pat who retired relatively young to Costa Rica. Said it was a good, comparatively cheap life for a single man who loved the beach, mountains, fresh local fruit. Safe housing, local maid, cook, driver/guide all cheap & hard working. Quoting: NotStarvingActress Had to prove he had more than sufficient income to survive unaided. Downside is that you had to deal with huge bugs everywhere, no matter how clean you kept your kitchen. UGH. My friend who lived there for 20 years finally returned to the US because stealing is condoned and a way of life. She said even between families, if one can steal from another it's basically tough shit and what you can steal is now yours. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
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User ID: 77049137 United States10/23/2018 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would think many of the families fleeing Honduras for its violence and such would take sanctuary in Mexico then. Quoting: sloonie Not sure why they would go back on a bus if offered. (Must be hard choices) I pray for all involved. (especially the angry young men....think cool blue water putting out the hot destructive fire) Yes, you would think someone really afraid to go back would stay in Mexico but I'll bet they don't have money and Mexico is probably slim to none with social services and welfare. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
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User ID: 77049137 United States10/23/2018 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suspect they cleared out a few jails on the condition they go with the caravan to the US. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill . ... didn't castro/cuba do the same? ... . Yes. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
| sloonie
User ID: 71352731  Canada10/23/2018 05:53 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would think many of the families fleeing Honduras for its violence and such would take sanctuary in Mexico then. Quoting: sloonie Not sure why they would go back on a bus if offered. (Must be hard choices) I pray for all involved. (especially the angry young men....think cool blue water putting out the hot destructive fire) Yes, you would think someone really afraid to go back would stay in Mexico but I'll bet they don't have money and Mexico is probably slim to none with social services and welfare. I guess, but so few have money there anyhow.....sad situations. Ben Franklin--"A Republic, if you can keep it." "If might is right, then love has no place in the world. It may be so, it may be so. But I don't have the strength to live in a world like that..."-Father Gabriel, 'The Mission' |
| Rosenkrantz
User ID: 76996773 United States10/23/2018 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the caravan was here, near my location in Guatemala, there were several expats that brought formula and diapers, food, etc to the children and women that were there. There were far more women and children than men. Quoting: ladulce Then, as they proceeded, they were joined with more and more men - angry, antagonistic men looking to prove a point. For those of you that don't know, certain areas of Guatemala are incredibly violent and other areas are like the US in the 1960s. As they moved farther toward some of the more drug and gang controlled areas, they gained men. Yesterday, a local news station interviewed a family that was turning around and heading back to Honduras- via bus. The father said that he was really frightened by the new groups of men that had joined. They were looking for a fight. He said that several of the families had turned around and gone back to Honduras out of fear of these men. The news station reported that 100s of the 'real Hondurans' had returned, but, were replaced by a violent mob. Also, there was a very small baby in a chest carrier that was squished to death in the pushing in Mexico. Bless his tiny soul. So, who you think is coming/ started this is not. And, i have heard absolutely nothing of a second caravan. So, if one appears, I suspect it began in Mexico, not here. You are boots on the ground in a key area....tks for reporting in to us. Question, were the caravan on "foot" or were they in buses, trucks, etc.? I saw a video of some pretty tough looking people in the back of a flatbed, on the highway in Guatemala. Looked like the big highway that would link Mexico and Honduras west-east near the Pacific coast. So maybe the normal people were walking but a bunch of toughs were trucked in. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76825730 United States10/23/2018 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing is absolute crap. If these people cross our border- they are hostile law breakers. I can only imagine the number of non violent criminals sitting in our prisons serving sentences- while these scumbag law breakers get to bust through the border illegally, and then they will be rewarded with free crap when they get here. Unbelievable. We could be witnessing the fall of Rome. |
| Philadelphian
User ID: 73082052 United States10/23/2018 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing is absolute crap. Quoting: JypsieWind If these people cross our border- they are hostile law breakers. I can only imagine the number of non violent criminals sitting in our prisons serving sentences- while these scumbag law breakers get to bust through the border illegally, and then they will be rewarded with free crap when they get here. Unbelievable. We could be witnessing the fall of Rome. Yep, the jews brought down Rome using illegal immigrants just as they are doing to the whole of Europe and the U.S. and Canada as well. In Cabala, evil takes on a mysterious existence of its own, which its precepts trace back to the physical appearance of life on Earth, or Adam. Cabala claims that Adam throws the entire stream of life out of balance, and that the Church, or Christianity, by formalizing the existence of the Adamite people on Earth, have become a problem which must be resolved. This is the essence of the basic anti-life principle underlying all Cabala and its heir, Freemasonry. These precepts declare that Satanism will achieve its final triumph over the Church and Christianity, thus ending the “dualism” of this world, the struggle between good and evil. In short, the problem of good and evil will all be ended when evil triumphs and good is eliminated from the earth. This program may sound somewhat simplistic, but it is the basic premise of the Cabala and Freemasonry. — Eustace Mullins, |
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| sloonie
User ID: 71352731 Canada10/23/2018 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This whole thing is absolute crap. Quoting: JypsieWind If these people cross our border- they are hostile law breakers. I can only imagine the number of non violent criminals sitting in our prisons serving sentences- while these scumbag law breakers get to bust through the border illegally, and then they will be rewarded with free crap when they get here. Unbelievable. We could be witnessing the fall of Rome. Oh, so so wrong, eh? Sickens me. and yes, the potential fall of Rome, but we have a thread of hope. Hang in there, and pray, however you do it.....vibes up! Last Edited by sloonie on 10/23/2018 09:39 PM Ben Franklin--"A Republic, if you can keep it." "If might is right, then love has no place in the world. It may be so, it may be so. But I don't have the strength to live in a world like that..."-Father Gabriel, 'The Mission' |
| anonimalle
User ID: 22825855 United States10/23/2018 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for this information. Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |
| BirdMom
User ID: 76395149  Panama10/23/2018 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ladulce At their point of arriving here, they were on foot. However, I travel their route every 3 months and I can't believe that they were on foot much farther. It takes us 6 hours in car to go from where we live to Tapachula (where they are- the border with Tecum Uman). They were here one day, there the next. ... I am an expat- born and raised in Southern Wisconsin. Truthfully, its just a very strange situation here. The people that we know are locals- many of whom have been deported from the US and who stayed here once they were removed. Fairly normal, pleasant people. I just don't know anyone that is crossing illegally right now. I know that the situation in Honduras is really, really bad. I have a friend whose husband is Honduran and they just sold their property there. They are scared to go back to sign the paperwork for sale because of the level of violence. It seems, to me, that the original group truly was full of people whose families had been killed by gangs, who had businesses that were extorted, whose children had been trafficked, etc. And, then, they're on some mysterious bus to take them back to Honduras? I just don't get it. And the people that take their place are all 'trying to start problems' and begin fights. The situation is really scary. There has to be a reason. Is it Honduras where MS13 calls home? I heard a guy call into a radio show last night and he was American with a home in Honduras or Guatemala (probably the later). When asked what it was like down there he said is was good if you had money but terrible if you were poor because there are virtually no services. Show host said the murder rate in Honduras is 90+ per 100K or more than ten x that of the US. It's got to be horrible. He asked the caller what percentage of the locals would come to the US if they had the chance and the caller said "ALL OF THEM"! Are any of these people welcome in other central American countries like Costa Rica or Panama? I doubt they'd be welcome in Panama, unless they were highly skilled or had money. Panama does not want people who are poor and unskilled. Hey, Bird Mom, glad to see another person who lives in central America posting. Are you Panamanian or an expat? I had an American friend who lived in Costa Rica for 20 years. She married a Costa Rican but after getting a divorce she had to provide bank and financial records every year to prove that she had an independent means of support and would not be a drain on the nation of CR. I'm an American expat. The hubby and I are retired, and the cost of living is much more affordable here. Violent crime is very low, and infrastructure is good. It's a lot like 1950s America here. As long as you aren't causing any trouble, no one bothers you. |
| Pooka
User ID: 77009633 United States10/23/2018 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ladulce, please come back and tell us more. Your information is crucial to our understanding of this group of people, which now sounds as though it is made more and more of men with very bad intentions, and losing the families, the mothers and children, who were coming for the sake of hope. Can you tell us more, and update us with the current situation? Thank you for your input - we really appreciate you. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
| sloonie
User ID: 71352731 Canada10/24/2018 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whatever is happening, with all the possibilities and intrigues out there, these still are the silly works of man, and not of God/Spirit. We all are home with God/Spirit, having a dream of separation. this is all theater. Praying for peace on the stage. It is already there in our hearts if we allow it/hear it. Ben Franklin--"A Republic, if you can keep it." "If might is right, then love has no place in the world. It may be so, it may be so. But I don't have the strength to live in a world like that..."-Father Gabriel, 'The Mission' |
| Pooka
User ID: 77009633 United States10/24/2018 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pooka, be not afraid. Whatever is happening, with all the possibilities and intrigues out there, these still are the silly works of man, and not of God/Spirit. We all are home with God/Spirit, having a dream of separation. this is all theater. Praying for peace on the stage. It is already there in our hearts if we allow it/hear it. Sloonie, you are lovely in spirit! Thank you for this message! I'm not afraid - God is in charge of my life and He will see to all things. Yes, indeed, a stage, directors spatting with one another, the audience wide and loud, actors trying to stay with the impossible script. I merely seek the truth - the truth not twisted one way or the other by agendas, but the honest report of he who is on the ground there, without agenda, simply reporting. You have such a lovely spirit - I love your post and wish we could hug and sit and chat over hot chocolate! Praying with you for peace on the stage for as long as we are present here, watching this production. Prayer is the most powerful force on earth. “I care not for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” Abraham Lincoln I sign all karma given. Would that those giving it to me followed suit. |
