Who Was the Most Left Wing President In American History? | |
RepublicofTexas
User ID: 73812092 United States 12/28/2018 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No-brainer. Quoting: Shekky Shiller LBJ. The worst one you've had, to date, IMO. Worse than Hussein Obola AND BJ Klintoon, combined. LBJ makes Richard Milhous Nixon, Jerry Ford and Woodrow Wilson look good. Your best POTUS was probably Grover Cleveland, because he basically did fuck-all. The LBJ politics here with the assistance of Ralph Yarborough and the ilk, were so much more damaging to the Republic than the BO regime. Make America Strong Again Make America Sexy Again I'm fukken this monkey, you just shut up and hold the tail." |
Timur2020
User ID: 72825921 United States 12/28/2018 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No-brainer. Quoting: Shekky Shiller LBJ. The worst one you've had, to date, IMO. Worse than Hussein Obola AND BJ Klintoon, combined. LBJ makes Richard Milhous Nixon, Jerry Ford and Woodrow Wilson look good. Your best POTUS was probably Grover Cleveland, because he basically did fuck-all. Wrong. The others were not faggitos with men in dresses, furniture monkeys rich on communist money. Lbj started pooling the dead wieght and toxic together, thats about all? "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
Revbo™
(OP) User ID: 67405628 United States 12/28/2018 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama was loud and proud about his politics, so at least we knew what we were getting ourselves into. Quoting: Revbo™ In a way he was. But he never came out and said openly, "I'm a leftist, a liberal/progressive, and proud of it." When he attacked conservatives/rightism, he slyly talked about people who "cling to guns or religion." But, as is true of Trump too, Obama generally avoided saying "liberal/leftwing" and "conservative/rightwing" in public. Hillary at least said "vast rightwing conspiracy" back in the 1990s when she and her sleazy husband were in the White House. More recently, Harvey Weinstein claimed a "rightwing conspiracy" was the source of his problems---as though all the accusations aimed at him are from women who happen to be political conservatives. In Hollywood? A lot of the heat and fury being lobbed at Trump since 2016 - who would have been seen as a normative, mildly conservative president in the past - can be laid at the doorstep of this nation having the most leftwing president in the White House from 2009 to 2016. . Just as I don't have to constantly talk about how left wing these modern leftists are, he didn't have to. They talk about "dog whistles" all the time now. Statements like "bitter clingers" made it very clear where he stood. His associations alone (Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Loius Farakhan, Frank Marshal Davis) made it clear. Those are extreme leftists that no patriotic American should ever have anything to do with. He could hide where he was from. He could never hide what he believed. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States 12/28/2018 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but the shift in culture has been extreme since 2008, and is probably irreparable without violence. Quoting: Revbo™ That's why the general etiquette, followed by most people, of never saying "liberal/leftwing" and "conservative/rightwing" in mixed conversations - due to not wanting to embarrass or anger others - is way past its expiration date. Social-political subtlety (similar to an outright drunk never coming out and saying he's an alcoholic) is one of the main reasons the lame stereotype that liberals at least have nicey-huggy intentions, they at least mean well, they at least "feel your pain," is bought into by too many people, even certain conservatives. "Hillary was a piece of shit, but she at least meant well. "Obama was a piece of shit, but he least meant well. "Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez were pieces of shit, but they at least meant well. "Stalin/Hitler/Mao were pieces of shit, but they at least meant well." "I mean well too. I'm a wonderful liberal. Kiss my ass." . |
MidWhiteFlava
User ID: 77123146 United States 12/28/2018 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Franklin Roosevelt BY FAR. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic Roosevelt wanted to Nationalize the BIG companies in the US but couldn't get his Democratic Congress to go along. (most people forget about that now since it didn't happen - but it DID happen in Great Britain) Roosevelt tried to PACK the Supreme Court by expanding it by one Judge for every Judge over 70, which would have given him an immediate 5 appointments to the Court - but again even his Democratic Congress would not go along. Roosevelt got the national government involved in strengthening the Unions via his Labor Legislation and instituting the National Labor Relations Board - ie: the shove it up your ass Labor gets what it wants Board. Roosevelt instituted Social Security - before the Federal Government had NOT done anything wrt Welfare for the public. Roosevelt started the National Welfare Programs (though their great expansion came under Johnson) Roosevelt took the personal Income Tax Rate for high earners from about 17% to 90%!! The list goes on and on. Obama isn't even a weak candle compared to Roosevelt!! Johnson's actions just finished up what Roosevelt said he WANTED, but couldn't get through Congress back in the 1930's. Basically Roosevelt wanted to NATIONALIZE about 80% of the US economy, including virtually ALL manufacturing and ALL medical care ... and he got a LOT of it accomplished. I remember Rush Limbaugh talking about a few of these points, yet when I looked into it & did some research I was astonished how bad he really was. Bad being socialistic and very far left fiscally, but #Obola by far was the most socially left president. Hillary would have surpassed him and FDR if she made it in IMHO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 12/28/2018 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No-brainer. Quoting: Shekky Shiller LBJ. The worst one you've had, to date, IMO. Worse than Hussein Obola AND BJ Klintoon, combined. LBJ makes Richard Milhous Nixon, Jerry Ford and Woodrow Wilson look good. Your best POTUS was probably Grover Cleveland, because he basically did fuck-all. I voted LBJ too. It was before my time, but he started a lot of horrible stuff we still deal with. 2nd would probably be Clinton- he did some horrible things when you look a little deeper. 3rd- Obama- then FDR. imo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76170368 United States 12/28/2018 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Franklin Roosevelt BY FAR. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic Roosevelt wanted to Nationalize the BIG companies in the US but couldn't get his Democratic Congress to go along. (most people forget about that now since it didn't happen - but it DID happen in Great Britain) Roosevelt tried to PACK the Supreme Court by expanding it by one Judge for every Judge over 70, which would have given him an immediate 5 appointments to the Court - but again even his Democratic Congress would not go along. Roosevelt got the national government involved in strengthening the Unions via his Labor Legislation and instituting the National Labor Relations Board - ie: the shove it up your ass Labor gets what it wants Board. Roosevelt instituted Social Security - before the Federal Government had NOT done anything wrt Welfare for the public. Roosevelt started the National Welfare Programs (though their great expansion came under Johnson) Roosevelt took the personal Income Tax Rate for high earners from about 17% to 90%!! The list goes on and on. Obama isn't even a weak candle compared to Roosevelt!! Johnson's actions just finished up what Roosevelt said he WANTED, but couldn't get through Congress back in the 1930's. Basically Roosevelt wanted to NATIONALIZE about 80% of the US economy, including virtually ALL manufacturing and ALL medical care ... and he got a LOT of it accomplished. Wow, I need to look into FDR more. |
lvv
User ID: 76496341 United States 12/28/2018 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left wing Quoting: Trained Noticer Obummer, hands down. Major leftist advancers? Each of the above candidates made monumental steps left, But none more than Obummer. He used the foundational leftist blocks from the others on which to frame up a Major Leftist mansion, as directed by his puppet masters. man who bailed out bankers? |
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The Gullible Skeptic
User ID: 76364094 United States 12/28/2018 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have added Lincoln being the extreme Federalist he was but it's your poll. FDR got my vote, Wilson #2. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Agreed because it's correct. Not sure why everyone is saying Obama. He definitely wasn't the most left, he was just a scumbag and probably illegitimate. INTP/8w9 Ennegram "You can't teach anyone anything but they can choose to learn" -Me- "To exist is to destroy"-Me- "Specialization is for insects" -Robert Heinlein- Nine Noble Virtues: ODINISM: Truth,Courage,Honor,Fidelity,Discipline,Hospitality,Self Reliance, Industriousness, Perseverance |
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CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States 12/28/2018 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not sure why everyone is saying Obama. Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic He definitely wasn't the most left, he was just a scumbag and probably illegitimate. Which is why this question posed by Revbo is a good one. To me, saying that Obama wasn't the most leftwing president, or perhaps was more "scumbag" and "illegitimate" than liberal/leftist, makes me think of someone saying that Bruce Jenner wasn't the most masculine, athletically successful and famous trannie in US history. . |
Northwind36
User ID: 75477000 United States 12/28/2018 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama was the most openly left wing of them all. However the greatest damage was caused by the Kennedy brothers and Lyndon B. Johnson, due to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Last Edited by Northwind36 on 12/28/2018 02:08 PM |
Torchie
User ID: 74276477 United States 12/28/2018 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama was the most unapoligetic radical ever to occupy The White House. Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan Hands down. And he didn't give a shit what anyone thought or said about it. good quality for a true MAGA person as well... untying the shoelaces of the internet one post at a time love tastes best from teal buckets go GIT in your STALL! a Spark does not fall far from the Torchie |
Bodi Doc
Forum Administrator 12/28/2018 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have added Lincoln being the extreme Federalist he was but it's your poll. FDR got my vote, Wilson #2. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Good point. I'm not at all sure Federalism at all equates to what the Left Wing represents today. At least, I never got that feel from the Federalist Papers. Maybe I should read them again. Fdr, then Wilson, but Oshitheads place, yet to be determined by evidence and conviction remains to be seen. He could easily surplant them both. It is interesting to note something's. Communism is illegal in America, Socialism is not. If a parties platform resembles the illegal, but is labeled something legal, wtf? What differentiates Socialism and Communism?(rhetorical question) All of which, in my view is anathama to Capitalism, and what America still stands for. “We have assembled the most extensive and inclusive Voter Fraud Organization in the history of America”—Joe “SippyCup” Biden Joe Biden will never be the man Michelle Obama is The worst thing about dying is that you become a democratic voter for eternity |
CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States 12/28/2018 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liberalism and ultra-liberalism can easily be a distinction without much of a difference. Perhaps an avowed Communist - an ultra-liberal - will think, "Stalin/Mao/Hugo Chavez did mean well, but they didn't go far enough in their social justice." A garden-variety liberal will think, "Stalin/Mao/Hugo Chavez were extremists and ruthless. But they at least meant well. "Donald Trump, by comparison, is a big meanie and doesn't mean well. He poses a far bigger threat to a nicey-huggy America than someone like a Nicolas Maduro, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama will ever be." "My heart bleeds gallons of 'I feel your pain' blood. Now shut up and drop dead if you don't allow me to bleed my heart. "I'm progressive. I'm wonderful. Fuck you, non-liberals and rightwingers." . |
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rosicrucian1
User ID: 76960994 Canada 12/28/2018 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow great poll. I voted Obama because he was 'outed' as a full on fukin commie. Then I would pick FDR who sold out the US after the war to the communists. He may have been the biggest commie of them all. A lot of them were commies controlled by the cabal. “the devil is a foe to the blood” Prof. Minor |
Revbo™
(OP) User ID: 67405628 United States 12/28/2018 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have added Lincoln being the extreme Federalist he was but it's your poll. FDR got my vote, Wilson #2. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Good point. I'm not at all sure Federalism at all equates to what the Left Wing represents today. At least, I never got that feel from the Federalist Papers. Maybe I should read them again. Fdr, then Wilson, but Oshitheads place, yet to be determined by evidence and conviction remains to be seen. He could easily surplant them both. It is interesting to note something's. Communism is illegal in America, Socialism is not. If a parties platform resembles the illegal, but is labeled something legal, wtf? What differentiates Socialism and Communism?(rhetorical question) All of which, in my view is anathama to Capitalism, and what America still stands for. I agree, but it's a slippery slope. Federalism, and the centralization of power it represents, as someone else mentioned earlier, brought the power to the Federal Government to start to implement socialism more and more decades later. Alexander Hamilton and the other Federalists could never have dreamed that their vision of federalism would give rise to what we have now (Hell, he and his fellow patriots fought a revolution over far less taxes than we have been paying our whole lives), but if we had stuck with the Articles of Confederation, I doubt we would ever have seen anything like the bloated central government we have now. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
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CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States 12/28/2018 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. If Obama were exactly the way he is even if he - by some odd stroke of luck (petty racial conformity was admittedly a barrier decades ago) - had been president over 60 years ago, he'd still have been an ultra-liberal. Or if Franklin Roosevelt, had he been as socially, culturally "progressive" as his Democrat successor in 2008 would be, would overtake Obama to earn the title of "most leftwing/liberal." . |
Sikhed
User ID: 5898996 United States 12/28/2018 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obozo. Simply because America and the rest of the world keep getting more and more left wing. At least the other Dems had some redeeming qualities and some on the list were darn good presidents. No redeeming qualities for Obama. Quoting: BadWolf117 I agree with you mostly. But like obama, I don't think LBJ had any redeeming qualities. :doom360: |
Epic Beard Guy
User ID: 76783046 United States 12/28/2018 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Barry was neither the most liberal, or most evil. Wilson was by a long margin the most evil. He sold America to the Rothschilds (the Fed). FDR was (also by a wide margin) the most socialistic president ever. He made government responsible for pretty much everything. He drug out the depression as an excuse for more and more government programs. He is responsible for more government give-a-ways than anyone else. While he was giving away our tax dollars, and running up the debt, he also took a lot of property for the federal government. Over all, he was about as as close to a true communist as anyone that ever sat their ass is the big white house. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Epic Beard Guy
User ID: 76783046 United States 12/28/2018 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have added Lincoln being the extreme Federalist he was but it's your poll. FDR got my vote, Wilson #2. Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Good point. I'm not at all sure Federalism at all equates to what the Left Wing represents today. At least, I never got that feel from the Federalist Papers. Maybe I should read them again. Fdr, then Wilson, but Oshitheads place, yet to be determined by evidence and conviction remains to be seen. He could easily surplant them both. It is interesting to note something's. Communism is illegal in America, Socialism is not. If a parties platform resembles the illegal, but is labeled something legal, wtf? What differentiates Socialism and Communism?(rhetorical question) All of which, in my view is anathama to Capitalism, and what America still stands for. Barry Soetoro will certainly get a strong third place. He definitely makes Carter look good, but he is an amateur compared to FDR and Wilson. Of course most people don't know the history of Woodrow Wilson or FDR, so most of them only have Oblabla as an example of evil in Washington. Most of them weren't even around for the peanut farmer's attempt to destroy America. Carter must love Barry. Now the millenials have a super villain that bumps him out of the spotlight. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
Revbo™
(OP) User ID: 67405628 United States 12/28/2018 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Barry was neither the most liberal, or most evil. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy Wilson was by a long margin the most evil. He sold America to the Rothschilds (the Fed). FDR was (also by a wide margin) the most socialistic president ever. He made government responsible for pretty much everything. He drug out the depression as an excuse for more and more government programs. He is responsible for more government give-a-ways than anyone else. While he was giving away our tax dollars, and running up the debt, he also took a lot of property for the federal government. Over all, he was about as as close to a true communist as anyone that ever sat their ass is the big white house. And he's hailed as a hero for it in our history books. If he had done nothing at all, the Great Depression would have been a footnote in our history books like the crashes that happened before it where the sitting presidents did nothing. I like to think this reference by one of my favorite bands is tongue-in-cheek, but it's still what far too many people believe about the man. Song of the South-Alabama Well somebody told us Wall Street fell But we were so poor that we couldn't tell Cotton was short and the weeds were tall But Mr. Roosevelt's a gonna save us all Last Edited by Revbo™ on 12/28/2018 04:10 PM John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70732847 United States 12/28/2018 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left wing Quoting: Trained Noticer Obummer, hands down. Major leftist advancers? Each of the above candidates made monumental steps left, But none more than Obummer. He used the foundational leftist blocks from the others on which to frame up a Major Leftist mansion, as directed by his puppet masters. :obamaspreadtoile: That picture!!! |
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