Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,107 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,131,547
Pageviews Today: 1,532,877Threads Today: 394Posts Today: 6,297
12:23 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence

 
Doc SavageModerator
Senior Forum Moderator

02/08/2019 10:54 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence

Imprimis - January 2019

Alex Berenson


Seventy miles northwest of New York City is a hospital that looks like a prison, its drab brick buildings wrapped in layers of fencing and barbed wire. This grim facility is called the Mid-Hudson Forensic Psychiatric Institute. It’s one of three places the state of New York sends the criminally mentally ill—defendants judged not guilty by reason of insanity.

Until recently, my wife Jackie—Dr. Jacqueline Berenson—was a senior psychiatrist there. Many of Mid-Hudson’s 300 patients are killers and arsonists. At least one is a cannibal. Most have been diagnosed with psychotic disorders like schizophrenia that provoked them to violence against family members or strangers.

A couple of years ago, Jackie was telling me about a patient. In passing, she said something like, Of course he’d been smoking pot his whole life.

Of course? I said.

Yes, they all smoke.

So marijuana causes schizophrenia?

I was surprised, to say the least. I tended to be a libertarian on drugs. Years before, I’d covered the pharmaceutical industry for The New York Times. I was aware of the claims about marijuana as medicine, and I’d watched the slow spread of legalized cannabis without much interest.

Jackie would have been within her rights to say, I know what I’m talking about, unlike you. Instead she offered something neutral like, I think that’s what the big studies say. You should read them.

So I did. The big studies, the little ones, and all the rest. I read everything I could find. I talked to every psychiatrist and brain scientist who would talk to me. And I soon realized that in all my years as a journalist I had never seen a story where the gap between insider and outsider knowledge was so great, or the stakes so high.

I began to wonder why—with the stocks of cannabis companies soaring and politicians promoting legalization as a low-risk way to raise tax revenue and reduce crime—I had never heard the truth about marijuana, mental illness, and violence.

***

Over the last 30 years, psychiatrists and epidemiologists have turned speculation about marijuana’s dangers into science. Yet over the same period, a shrewd and expensive lobbying campaign has pushed public attitudes about marijuana the other way. And the effects are now becoming apparent.

Almost everything you think you know about the health effects of cannabis, almost everything advocates and the media have told you for a generation, is wrong.

They’ve told you marijuana has many different medical uses. In reality marijuana and THC, its active ingredient, have been shown to work only in a few narrow conditions. They are most commonly prescribed for pain relief. But they are rarely tested against other pain relief drugs like ibuprofen—and in July, a large four-year study of patients with chronic pain in Australia showed cannabis use was associated with greater pain over time.

They’ve told you cannabis can stem opioid use—“Two new studies show how marijuana can help fight the opioid epidemic,” according to Wonkblog, a Washington Post website, in April 2018— and that marijuana’s effects as a painkiller make it a potential substitute for opiates. In reality, like alcohol, marijuana is too weak as a painkiller to work for most people who truly need opiates, such as terminal cancer patients. Even cannabis advocates, like Rob Kampia, the co-founder of the Marijuana Policy Project, acknowledge that they have always viewed medical marijuana laws primarily as a way to protect recreational users.

As for the marijuana-reduces-opiate-use theory, it is based largely on a single paper comparing overdose deaths by state before 2010 to the spread of medical marijuana laws— and the paper’s finding is probably a result of simple geographic coincidence. The opiate epidemic began in Appalachia, while the first states to legalize medical marijuana were in the West. Since 2010, as both the epidemic and medical marijuana laws have spread nationally, the finding has vanished. And the United States, the Western country with the most cannabis use, also has by far the worst problem with opioids.

Research on individual users—a better way to trace cause and effect than looking at aggregate state-level data—consistently shows that marijuana use leads to other drug use. For example, a January 2018 paper in the American Journal of Psychiatry showed that people who used cannabis in 2001 were almost three times as likely to use opiates three years later, even after adjusting for other potential risks.

Most of all, advocates have told you that marijuana is not just safe for people with psychiatric problems like depression, but that it is a potential treatment for those patients. On its website, the cannabis delivery service Eaze offers the “Best Marijuana Strains and Products for Treating Anxiety.” “How Does Cannabis Help Depression?” is the topic of an article on Leafly, the largest cannabis website. But a mountain of peer-reviewed research in top medical journals shows that marijuana can cause or worsen severe mental illness, especially psychosis, the medical term for a break from reality. Teenagers who smoke marijuana regularly are about three times as likely to develop schizophrenia, the most devastating psychotic disorder.

After an exhaustive review, the National Academy of Medicine found in 2017 that “cannabis use is likely to increase the risk of developing schizophrenia and other psychoses; the higher the use, the greater the risk.” Also that “regular cannabis use is likely to increase the risk for developing social anxiety disorder.”

***

Over the past decade, as legalization has spread, patterns of marijuana use—and the drug itself—have changed in dangerous ways.

Legalization has not led to a huge increase in people using the drug casually. About 15 percent of Americans used cannabis at least once in 2017, up from ten percent in 2006, according to a large federal study called the National Survey on Drug Use and Health. (By contrast, about 65 percent of Americans had a drink in the last year.) But the number of Americans who use cannabis heavily is soaring. In 2006, about three million Americans reported using cannabis at least 300 times a year, the standard for daily use. By 2017, that number had nearly tripled, to eight million, approaching the twelve million Americans who drank alcohol every day. Put another way, one in 15 drinkers consumed alcohol daily; about one in five marijuana users used cannabis that often.

Cannabis users today are also consuming a drug that is far more potent than ever before, as measured by the amount of THC—delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the chemical in cannabis responsible for its psychoactive effects—it contains. In the 1970s, the last time this many Americans used cannabis, most marijuana contained less than two percent THC. Today, marijuana routinely contains 20 to 25 percent THC, thanks to sophisticated farming and cloning techniques—as well as to a demand by users for cannabis that produces a stronger high more quickly. In states where cannabis is legal, many users prefer extracts that are nearly pure THC. Think of the difference between near-beer and a martini, or even grain alcohol, to understand the difference.

These new patterns of use have caused problems with the drug to soar. In 2014, people who had diagnosable cannabis use disorder, the medical term for marijuana abuse or addiction, made up about 1.5 percent of Americans. But they accounted for eleven percent of all the psychosis cases in emergency rooms—90,000 cases, 250 a day, triple the number in 2006. In states like Colorado, emergency room physicians have become experts on dealing with cannabis-induced psychosis.

Cannabis advocates often argue that the drug can’t be as neurotoxic as studies suggest, because otherwise Western countries would have seen population-wide increases in psychosis alongside rising use. In reality, accurately tracking psychosis cases is impossible in the United States. The government carefully tracks diseases like cancer with central registries, but no such registry exists for schizophrenia or other severe mental illnesses.

On the other hand, research from Finland and Denmark, two countries that track mental illness more comprehensively, shows a significant increase in psychosis since 2000, following an increase in cannabis use. And in September of last year, a large federal survey found a rise in serious mental illness in the United States as well, especially among young adults, the heaviest users of cannabis.

According to this latter study, 7.5 percent of adults age 18-25 met the criteria for serious mental illness in 2017, double the rate in 2008. What’s especially striking is that adolescents age 12-17 don’t show these increases in cannabis use and severe mental illness.

CONTINUED AT:
[link to imprimis.hillsdale.edu (secure)]
AhhShit

User ID: 76905087
United States
02/08/2019 11:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Most of psychiatry is a SCAM. Paid for option masquerading as science.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73049134
United States
02/08/2019 11:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Cannabis bad. Zoloft good.
Wookiee666

User ID: 62421844
United States
02/08/2019 11:24 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
: fullretard :
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


:yes u r:
Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac .

If the number 666 is considered evil.
then technically, 25.8069758 is the root
of all evil.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76944367
United States
02/08/2019 11:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Debunked. Folks who have these problems seek out meds to help themselves. Not the other way around. Long known and understood. Called self medicating. The way to truly know is that they smoke cigarets like they're going out of style. When they're smoking both, they're fighting mental illness.
As far as opiates use going down, it's not from a paper. Lol. It's from huge drops in prescribing opiates in legal states and switching the prescription to MJ. This is common knowledge and there's several stories you can research of people moving to legal states to stop opiates.
This is already many years old. That's why pharma is fighting MJ so hard. Losing customers.
Not in my mind

User ID: 50874131
United States
02/08/2019 11:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
And we should believe this because.....

Last Edited by Not in my mind on 02/08/2019 11:27 AM
Will
CMcC

User ID: 62287475
United States
02/08/2019 11:54 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence

Imprimis - January 2019

Alex Berenson...


...CONTINUED AT:
[link to imprimis.hillsdale.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Doc Savage


Thanks for this, it may cause me to rethink my opinion just based on my own experience.
Fear God and Dread Nought.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76552616
United States
02/08/2019 12:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
wonder how high the cases of schizophrenia are in the Netherlands?
Hakaakah

User ID: 76064485
Canada
02/08/2019 12:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Tripe.
Vicious Deplorable dollop
You ain't seen nothing yet!

User ID: 77351778
United States
02/08/2019 12:41 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Marijuana is the drug of choice by the most violent and murderers in America.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
Oldren

User ID: 77213634
United States
02/08/2019 12:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Did CKP get a new fan boy?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73261399
United States
02/08/2019 12:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
I don't need any studies to form an opinion on the stuff. Everyone I meet that smokes on the reg is a broke deck loser. That's about all I need to know about it. It's a loser's drug, same as alcohol.
CUB4DK

User ID: 77248704
Canada
02/08/2019 12:49 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Most of psychiatry is a SCAM. Paid for option masquerading as science.
 Quoting: AhhShit


Oh so true…they don't call them shrinks and quacks for nothing.
A job is a job as long as it pays the bills…even for Shrinks
mash-cheers5

Take Care, Dr. Cannabis REX
CUB4DK
Deep1111

User ID: 38834627
United States
02/08/2019 12:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
I have been diagnosed as having multiple "mental illnesses" for which I take a medication cocktail for. The drugs are a motherfucker to remember, but they do work to do the job they are assigned. I am crazier than shit off my medications. One time I thought I was Jesus. lol

I also smoke marijuana. I have come off the weed train here and there and can say that life is much more boring when not stoned. Especially when sitting in front of your computer if that is what the majority of your day constitutes. I have two conditions for which marijuana can be diagnosed for medical use in my state, but I fail to see the need to go through the process to get my name on some list when weed is recreationally legal as well.

I don't think weed makes anyone mentally ill. One can be mentally ill and be a drunk. One can be mentally ill and be totally sober. I think most that use drugs that are mentally ill are self-medicating to tell you the truth. Tis a shitty existence for someone with one of these mental illnesses so anything to brighten or make life bearable and consistent seems tempting when struggling to keep their mind together.
Jesus said: He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All.

Keep calling it mental illness.

1,000 years ago, they called us see'ers

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77070426
United States
02/08/2019 12:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence

Imprimis - January 2019

Alex Berenson


Seventy miles northwest of New York City is a hospital that looks like a prison, its drab brick buildings wrapped in layers of fencing and barbed wire. This grim facility is called the Mid-Hudson Forensic Psychiatric Institute. It’s one of three places the state of New York sends the criminally mentally ill—defendants judged not guilty by reason of insanity.

Until recently, my wife Jackie—Dr. Jacqueline Berenson—was a senior psychiatrist there. Many of Mid-Hudson’s 300 patients are killers and arsonists. At least one is a cannibal. Most have been diagnosed with psychotic disorders like schizophrenia that provoked them to violence against family members or strangers.

A couple of years ago, Jackie was telling me about a patient. In passing, she said something like, Of course he’d been smoking pot his whole life.

Of course? I said.

Yes, they all smoke.

So marijuana causes schizophrenia?

I was surprised, to say the least. I tended to be a libertarian on drugs. Years before, I’d covered the pharmaceutical industry for The New York Times. I was aware of the claims about marijuana as medicine, and I’d watched the slow spread of legalized cannabis without much interest.

Jackie would have been within her rights to say, I know what I’m talking about, unlike you. Instead she offered something neutral like, I think that’s what the big studies say. You should read them.

So I did. The big studies, the little ones, and all the rest. I read everything I could find. I talked to every psychiatrist and brain scientist who would talk to me. And I soon realized that in all my years as a journalist I had never seen a story where the gap between insider and outsider knowledge was so great, or the stakes so high.

I began to wonder why—with the stocks of cannabis companies soaring and politicians promoting legalization as a low-risk way to raise tax revenue and reduce crime—I had never heard the truth about marijuana, mental illness, and violence.

***

Over the last 30 years, psychiatrists and epidemiologists have turned speculation about marijuana’s dangers into science. Yet over the same period, a shrewd and expensive lobbying campaign has pushed public attitudes about marijuana the other way. And the effects are now becoming apparent.

Almost everything you think you know about the health effects of cannabis, almost everything advocates and the media have told you for a generation, is wrong.

They’ve told you marijuana has many different medical uses. In reality marijuana and THC, its active ingredient, have been shown to work only in a few narrow conditions. They are most commonly prescribed for pain relief. But they are rarely tested against other pain relief drugs like ibuprofen—and in July, a large four-year study of patients with chronic pain in Australia showed cannabis use was associated with greater pain over time.

They’ve told you cannabis can stem opioid use—“Two new studies show how marijuana can help fight the opioid epidemic,” according to Wonkblog, a Washington Post website, in April 2018— and that marijuana’s effects as a painkiller make it a potential substitute for opiates. In reality, like alcohol, marijuana is too weak as a painkiller to work for most people who truly need opiates, such as terminal cancer patients. Even cannabis advocates, like Rob Kampia, the co-founder of the Marijuana Policy Project, acknowledge that they have always viewed medical marijuana laws primarily as a way to protect recreational users.

As for the marijuana-reduces-opiate-use theory, it is based largely on a single paper comparing overdose deaths by state before 2010 to the spread of medical marijuana laws— and the paper’s finding is probably a result of simple geographic coincidence. The opiate epidemic began in Appalachia, while the first states to legalize medical marijuana were in the West. Since 2010, as both the epidemic and medical marijuana laws have spread nationally, the finding has vanished. And the United States, the Western country with the most cannabis use, also has by far the worst problem with opioids.

Research on individual users—a better way to trace cause and effect than looking at aggregate state-level data—consistently shows that marijuana use leads to other drug use. For example, a January 2018 paper in the American Journal of Psychiatry showed that people who used cannabis in 2001 were almost three times as likely to use opiates three years later, even after adjusting for other potential risks.

Most of all, advocates have told you that marijuana is not just safe for people with psychiatric problems like depression, but that it is a potential treatment for those patients. On its website, the cannabis delivery service Eaze offers the “Best Marijuana Strains and Products for Treating Anxiety.” “How Does Cannabis Help Depression?” is the topic of an article on Leafly, the largest cannabis website. But a mountain of peer-reviewed research in top medical journals shows that marijuana can cause or worsen severe mental illness, especially psychosis, the medical term for a break from reality. Teenagers who smoke marijuana regularly are about three times as likely to develop schizophrenia, the most devastating psychotic disorder.

After an exhaustive review, the National Academy of Medicine found in 2017 that “cannabis use is likely to increase the risk of developing schizophrenia and other psychoses; the higher the use, the greater the risk.” Also that “regular cannabis use is likely to increase the risk for developing social anxiety disorder.”

***

Over the past decade, as legalization has spread, patterns of marijuana use—and the drug itself—have changed in dangerous ways.

Legalization has not led to a huge increase in people using the drug casually. About 15 percent of Americans used cannabis at least once in 2017, up from ten percent in 2006, according to a large federal study called the National Survey on Drug Use and Health. (By contrast, about 65 percent of Americans had a drink in the last year.) But the number of Americans who use cannabis heavily is soaring. In 2006, about three million Americans reported using cannabis at least 300 times a year, the standard for daily use. By 2017, that number had nearly tripled, to eight million, approaching the twelve million Americans who drank alcohol every day. Put another way, one in 15 drinkers consumed alcohol daily; about one in five marijuana users used cannabis that often.

Cannabis users today are also consuming a drug that is far more potent than ever before, as measured by the amount of THC—delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the chemical in cannabis responsible for its psychoactive effects—it contains. In the 1970s, the last time this many Americans used cannabis, most marijuana contained less than two percent THC. Today, marijuana routinely contains 20 to 25 percent THC, thanks to sophisticated farming and cloning techniques—as well as to a demand by users for cannabis that produces a stronger high more quickly. In states where cannabis is legal, many users prefer extracts that are nearly pure THC. Think of the difference between near-beer and a martini, or even grain alcohol, to understand the difference.

These new patterns of use have caused problems with the drug to soar. In 2014, people who had diagnosable cannabis use disorder, the medical term for marijuana abuse or addiction, made up about 1.5 percent of Americans. But they accounted for eleven percent of all the psychosis cases in emergency rooms—90,000 cases, 250 a day, triple the number in 2006. In states like Colorado, emergency room physicians have become experts on dealing with cannabis-induced psychosis.

Cannabis advocates often argue that the drug can’t be as neurotoxic as studies suggest, because otherwise Western countries would have seen population-wide increases in psychosis alongside rising use. In reality, accurately tracking psychosis cases is impossible in the United States. The government carefully tracks diseases like cancer with central registries, but no such registry exists for schizophrenia or other severe mental illnesses.

On the other hand, research from Finland and Denmark, two countries that track mental illness more comprehensively, shows a significant increase in psychosis since 2000, following an increase in cannabis use. And in September of last year, a large federal survey found a rise in serious mental illness in the United States as well, especially among young adults, the heaviest users of cannabis.

According to this latter study, 7.5 percent of adults age 18-25 met the criteria for serious mental illness in 2017, double the rate in 2008. What’s especially striking is that adolescents age 12-17 don’t show these increases in cannabis use and severe mental illness.

CONTINUED AT:
[link to imprimis.hillsdale.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: Doc Savage


Best thing Ive ever seen a GLP mod post. Anyone thinking that non-stop mind alteration via intake of cannibis is a moron that's already lost to brain damage. 5* topic. You should use your mod powers to keep this permapinned.
Hawkshot

User ID: 76631897
United Kingdom
02/08/2019 12:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
So for GLP's anti-pot, non-moderator, crowd you have;

-An alcoholic-South African welfare recipient

-A pilled out loser from the UK who can't even feel his own micropenis

-A baby eating satanist with '666' in their name


Looking really good for the anti-pot crowd here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34398756


This...Good comment.
Hawkshot

User ID: 76631897
United Kingdom
02/08/2019 12:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Did CKP get a new fan boy?
 Quoting: Oldren


Rent boy.
The Rickest Rick Sanchez

User ID: 73683067
United States
02/08/2019 12:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Smoked over 25 years and I make over 100k.

Studies aren't experience.

I would be a mental health patient without it, and placed on more harmful drugs.

Instead I'm a productive member of society.

Use is by a far majority a symptom, not a cause.

SOME predisposed individuals can have psychotic reactions. Far fewer than experience benefits.

Dont shit in the punchbowl just because a few idiots cant hold their liquor.
The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them.

The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75307792
United States
02/08/2019 12:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
I have been diagnosed as having multiple "mental illnesses" for which I take a medication cocktail for. The drugs are a motherfucker to remember, but they do work to do the job they are assigned. I am crazier than shit off my medications. One time I thought I was Jesus. lol

I also smoke marijuana. I have come off the weed train here and there and can say that life is much more boring when not stoned. Especially when sitting in front of your computer if that is what the majority of your day constitutes. I have two conditions for which marijuana can be diagnosed for medical use in my state, but I fail to see the need to go through the process to get my name on some list when weed is recreationally legal as well.

I don't think weed makes anyone mentally ill. One can be mentally ill and be a drunk. One can be mentally ill and be totally sober. I think most that use drugs that are mentally ill are self-medicating to tell you the truth. Tis a shitty existence for someone with one of these mental illnesses so anything to brighten or make life bearable and consistent seems tempting when struggling to keep their mind together.
 Quoting: Deep1111


Edited your quote:

"Tis a shitty existence for someone with one of these LIVING ON THIS FUCKING PLANET so anything to brighten or make life bearable and consistent seems tempting when struggling to keep their mind together.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71049318
United States
02/08/2019 01:01 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
LOL this is such bs propaganda it’s not even funny. There are millions upon millions of people that smoke pot and find total peace and harmony with it.

Op works for the pharmaceutical companies and is getting paid big bucks while at the same time being a pill junkie. Get off the dope op. Pills are bad for people. They cause cancer and deaths.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77337151
United States
02/08/2019 01:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention.

I know this is true. I have seen people smoke pot and get psychotic after and end up in the ER and the mental ward overnight.

I think about 15-25% of the population is prone to drug-induced psychosis (not everyone though).

Marijuana is like a switch that turns on the mental illness in *some* people who have the biochemical imbalance.

It really bothers me how it's being legalized and pushed in kids faces without concurrent education about these devastating side effects.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76944367
United States
02/08/2019 01:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Marijuana is the drug of choice by the most violent and murderers in America.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop


Let's see 65% of Americans said they smoked at least once in past year. In the entire world we are talking hundred of millions use it. So yes, the most violent, most nicest, most republican, most democratic, most rich, most poor, most beautiful, most ugly use it. Nice try.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 76944367
United States
02/08/2019 01:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention.

I know this is true. I have seen people smoke pot and get psychotic after and end up in the ER and the mental ward overnight.

I think about 15-25% of the population is prone to drug-induced psychosis (not everyone though).

Marijuana is like a switch that turns on the mental illness in *some* people who have the biochemical imbalance.

It really bothers me how it's being legalized and pushed in kids faces without concurrent education about these devastating side effects.
 Quoting: Saint Kitty


OP is trying to say MJ causes mental illness while it's already proven that it exacerbates it. Huge difference. I agree it's not for everyone. Neither is apple juice. Yet, in its entire history, no one has died from its effects. Maybe from its affects such as driving into on coming traffic but not from the plant.

Here's the weird part. In the US, the republicans bitch about freedom but when it comes to just one plant in particular, their freedom they talk about doesn't exist. For a plant.
In Yer Neck

User ID: 72590658
United States
02/08/2019 01:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
That's a good publication. When I signed up, I got a free pocket constitution. They also offer some good online courses for free.....so, bump
It's been swell, but the swellings gone down.- Tank girl

"To hell with them fella's. Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms." - Josey Wales.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71049318
United States
02/08/2019 01:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Look there are three choices a person has in this world for medicine.

Pills, needles or pot. I choose pot. The pills and needles are poison. I’ve seen too many people have their lives destroyed by pharmaceutical drugs. I’m tired of seeing it.


I’m tired of seeing pill and needle junkies ! I’m tired of seeing needles on the side walk. I’m tired of seeing junkies drool and shit themselves.

I lost a family member due to LEGAL drugs. It’s a horrible way to die.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 70911716
United States
02/08/2019 01:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
I lived next door to a pot seller for years and knew most of his large clientele. Only one was what you could consider schizophrenic.

Some of that crowd had cancer, some had epilepsy. It helped them immensely. Some did it recreationally and were still responsible, successful people. Some used it for depression and it helped. Some for help with sleep and pain.

And I've seen a few it's not good for, increased their anxiety. It's not for everyone. For some it helps a lot.

Separate from that bunch, I knew two schizophrenics. One never did marijuana at all and the other swore that it helped him.

In all these people, I never saw it increase violence in any of them.
CitizenPerth

User ID: 75199417
Australia
02/08/2019 01:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Smoked over 25 years and I make over 100k.

Studies aren't experience.

I would be a mental health patient without it, and placed on more harmful drugs.

Instead I'm a productive member of society.

Use is by a far majority a symptom, not a cause.

SOME predisposed individuals can have psychotic reactions. Far fewer than experience benefits.

Dont shit in the punchbowl just because a few idiots cant hold their liquor.
 Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez


well said. and after comparing it to 'legal' alcohol..... experiencing the two (even lecturing at universities and imbibing with my fellows?.. you leave alcohol to the kids...
It's life as we know it, but only just.
[link to citizenperth.wordpress.com]
sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie
CUB4DK

User ID: 77248704
Canada
02/08/2019 01:30 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Marijuana is the drug of choice by the most violent and murderers in America.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop


Just mix it with alcohol and other elicit drugs and your narcissist runs amok.

..wakey... wakey timecool2
CUB4DK
Timur2020

User ID: 72605578
United States
02/08/2019 01:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Bullsh*t bich.
All troubled people self medicate.
For plain psychotics it is a bunch of delusions and "visions" which are the product of thier broken butt, not the pot.

All Drs know this? Demonstrating these 2 bichs are complete trolls, trying to use her position in a shi*hole to "authenticate" thier false claim.

Just like you think lovely or funny or deep things - fkbrain enjoys thinking fkbrain things. Its you, not the boo.

Thats why it is so prominent in bible, because to the priests it gave godly imaginations and to the people, "divine" ones. They set thier stage and add the enhancement the same as people put up colored lights at a show. Set the mood, add the good.

But come on....ny bich that lives by criminally insane trying to convince anybody that anyone from that satanic shi*hole should be believed about anything?
Fking commie bich. I hope the cannibal eats her clarice...

They do not want you happy, content or thinking good things. Fascism and communism function on suffering and enforce it through human misery. Not just a liar and pretended idiot.....ny commie wanting to assert draconian control that people would laugh at if they were high.
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind"

Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line.
Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too.

I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 77337151
United States
02/08/2019 01:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention.

I know this is true. I have seen people smoke pot and get psychotic after and end up in the ER and the mental ward overnight.

I think about 15-25% of the population is prone to drug-induced psychosis (not everyone though).

Marijuana is like a switch that turns on the mental illness in *some* people who have the biochemical imbalance.

It really bothers me how it's being legalized and pushed in kids faces without concurrent education about these devastating side effects.
 Quoting: Saint Kitty


OP is trying to say MJ causes mental illness while it's already proven that it exacerbates it. Huge difference. I agree it's not for everyone. Neither is apple juice. Yet, in its entire history, no one has died from its effects. Maybe from its affects such as driving into on coming traffic but not from the plant.

Here's the weird part. In the US, the republicans bitch about freedom but when it comes to just one plant in particular, their freedom they talk about doesn't exist. For a plant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76944367


Poisonous mushrooms are a plant too. Just cause something grows in nature doesn't mean it's meant for human consumption or smoking or snorting.

Truth is, the only reason they are legalizing it NOW is for profit and tax revenue (probably tied into liberals being controlled by drug cartels too). Cannabis is known to numb the masses and is just another tool to zombify American society in addition to vaccines, GMO food, etc.

And it could be argued that living with schizophrenia is a worse fate than death. If you've never seen it up close you, you have no idea. You can pretend that pot is no big deal like liberal San Francisco does, but the detrimental cost of mental illness on the individual and society cannot be denied.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 71049318
United States
02/08/2019 01:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: HILLSDALE COLLEGE'S 'IMPRIMIS': Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence
Look there are three choices a person has in this world for medicine.

Pills, needles or pot. I choose pot. The pills and needles are poison. I’ve seen too many people have their lives destroyed by pharmaceutical drugs. I’m tired of seeing it.


I’m tired of seeing pill and needle junkies ! I’m tired of seeing needles on the side walk. I’m tired of seeing junkies drool and shit themselves.

I lost a family member due to LEGAL drugs. It’s a horrible way to die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71049318


Truth.





GLP