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Help: PAYPAL now targeting ebay sellers
For 2 years I've owned, and managed a successful ebay store.

In order to sell on ebay, you must have a paypal account to process payments, and purchase postage from ebay.

Just today I received notification that my paypal account is restricted due to "violations". The email I received from paypal stated that I was in violation for selling "ecig devices/accessories".

My store sells several items related to aromatherapy, and has for many months. These are not restricted items, and I've never had issues like this before. Again, this is after many months of selling on ebay.

So here's my suspicion:

We've all heard about paypal teaming up with Southern Poverty Law Center to deny Conservatives from using their services.

There has been a lot of talk about this at GLP lately.

I suspect that they're tracking internet usage of account holders, and targeting those who frequent conservative leaning sites, and/or those who leave "conservative" comments on forums/comment sections.


I've appealed this decision with paypal, and am waiting on a reply. This thread will be updated with that response when, and if I get one.
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02/28/2019 07:33 PM
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This leaves me in a real bind. I have many thousands of dollars of inventory in stock, and no way to sell it.

If anyone has expertise about setting up a merchant website, I'd be very grateful for you advise.

This is new territory for me, but I'm intelligent, and eager to learn.


THIS IS WAR!!! Make no mistake about it, the "left" wants to starve us conservatives out any way they can.
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02/28/2019 07:40 PM
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welcome to judeo chinese style tyranny

social credit system

constant monitoring

facial recognition

the chinese ccp leadership worships the dead jew marx and the dead jew lenin as g-ds

they harshly persecute Christians, conservatives, muslims, and free thinkers while chabaf houses thrive in ccp china

fema camps await you, gullitiones have been sharpened
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02/28/2019 07:43 PM
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Paypal statement on website

PayPal generally prohibits transactions for all types of tobacco products, including cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco due to legal requirements and industry regulations for online tobacco sales."
Any merchant selling these products and offering PP is either doing so without PP's knowledge or with written permission. That permission can be revoked by PP at any time, for any reason, without explanation, and without recourse by the merchant.
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02/28/2019 07:47 PM
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but we can purchase these things using paypal...
Here are the smaller letters at the bottom
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02/28/2019 07:47 PM
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first FORGET about the suspicions about some whackjobs THERE and HERE

second wait until paypal replies then get back and ask them why DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER and make sure they give you a good enough reason otherwise mention litigation

good luck
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02/28/2019 08:16 PM
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first FORGET about the suspicions about some whackjobs THERE and HERE

second wait until paypal replies then get back and ask them why DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER and make sure they give you a good enough reason otherwise mention litigation

good luck
 Quoting: mr jenzie


Thanks for that. Do you have experience in dealing with paypal on these kinds of issues?

As for my suspicions, yes, I may be wrong, but the timing of this is, well, suspicious.
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02/28/2019 08:17 PM
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
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02/28/2019 08:23 PM
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416698


Agreed.

Unfortunately, they're a necessary evil for ebay sellers.

I have to admit, the left has built a powerful machine, and it's designed to chew up, and spit out anyone who disagrees with them.
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02/28/2019 08:23 PM
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416698


Agreed.

Unfortunately, they're a necessary evil for ebay sellers.

I have to admit, the left has built a powerful machine, and it's designed to chew up, and spit out anyone who disagrees with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


Use something different.
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02/28/2019 08:26 PM
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They DO monitor web activity to determine IP address activity for
fraud & hacks.

I sold an Iphone last year and somehow the buyer was issued a refund.

When I called paypal, they used my ip address history as PROOF that I issued the refund from my phone's APP, which I didn't do.

So in the least, they are definitely monitoring web activity.
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02/28/2019 08:27 PM
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416698


Agreed.

Unfortunately, they're a necessary evil for ebay sellers.

I have to admit, the left has built a powerful machine, and it's designed to chew up, and spit out anyone who disagrees with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


Use something different.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


I wish I could, Rey. There are no other options for accepting payments on ebay.

If I can't get this restriction lifted, I'll do my best to create a website. Something I currently know nothing about.
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They DO monitor web activity to determine IP address activity for
fraud & hacks.

I sold an Iphone last year and somehow the buyer was issued a refund.

When I called paypal, they used my ip address history as PROOF that I issued the refund from my phone's APP, which I didn't do.

So in the least, they are definitely monitoring web activity.
 Quoting: Itl83


Interdasting. Thanks for sharing that info.
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02/28/2019 08:31 PM
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first FORGET about the suspicions about some whackjobs THERE and HERE

second wait until paypal replies then get back and ask them why DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER and make sure they give you a good enough reason otherwise mention litigation

good luck
 Quoting: mr jenzie


I believe that is nicest thing you've ever said mr jenzie.
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first FORGET about the suspicions about some whackjobs THERE and HERE

second wait until paypal replies then get back and ask them why DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER and make sure they give you a good enough reason otherwise mention litigation

good luck
 Quoting: mr jenzie


I believe that is nicest thing you've ever said mr jenzie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77415027


Maybe he has been red-pilled. We can turn him into a Patriot yet!

:patriot:
Paranoiaaaaa
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Have you heard about ebay Managed Payments? It is a new thing & not trusted by many sellers. I believe you have to sign up with a bank account that your payments will be deposited into. I'm not sure if you would even be able to sign up as it says they are rolling it out thru 2021.It's not as convenient as PayPal, but it would be worth looking into if you can't continue with PayPal.

[link to pages.ebay.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Paranoiaaaaa on 02/28/2019 11:14 PM
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02/28/2019 08:52 PM

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What we are dealing with with Paypal, Fakebook, Twatter, etc, is actually several violations of anti-trust and monopoly issues. They need to enforce the antitrust and monopoly laws, IN EVERYTHING.

Perhaps, in another communication, you can mention to Paypal that antitrust issues need to be addressed.

Hopefully they will just respond and rescind the stupid suspension.

Hope it works out. It's tough to set up a site without taking Paypal for items, and getting people to go there is difficult as well.
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They DO monitor web activity to determine IP address activity for
fraud & hacks.

I sold an Iphone last year and somehow the buyer was issued a refund.

When I called paypal, they used my ip address history as PROOF that I issued the refund from my phone's APP, which I didn't do.

So in the least, they are definitely monitoring web activity.
 Quoting: Itl83


Phone apps spy on people and collect info on you without you being aware. Never surf the internet with payment apps on your phone or tablet. You don't want the banks nor credit card companies to know you visit places like GLP. Keep your controversial internet surfing for the PC that you don't do any banking on and use a foreign vpn that doesn't keep logs.
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02/28/2019 08:56 PM

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For 2 years I've owned, and managed a successful ebay store.

In order to sell on ebay, you must have a paypal account to process payments, and purchase postage from ebay.

Just today I received notification that my paypal account is restricted due to "violations". The email I received from paypal stated that I was in violation for selling "ecig devices/accessories".

My store sells several items related to aromatherapy, and has for many months. These are not restricted items, and I've never had issues like this before. Again, this is after many months of selling on ebay.

So here's my suspicion:

We've all heard about paypal teaming up with Southern Poverty Law Center to deny Conservatives from using their services.

There has been a lot of talk about this at GLP lately.

I suspect that they're tracking internet usage of account holders, and targeting those who frequent conservative leaning sites, and/or those who leave "conservative" comments on forums/comment sections.


I've appealed this decision with paypal, and am waiting on a reply. This thread will be updated with that response when, and if I get one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


Not sure on the timetable but Ebay is replacing Paypal, you should have received notice of this last year.

I know Ebay eliminate vaping juice as being able to be sold but they still allow vaping devices and accessories. Many online vape stores utilize Paypal as a means of checkout (stores not related to Ebay) so I'm thinking there must be some other problem with what you are selling. Perhaps they are thinking it is drug related???
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416698


Agreed.

Unfortunately, they're a necessary evil for ebay sellers.

I have to admit, the left has built a powerful machine, and it's designed to chew up, and spit out anyone who disagrees with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


Use something different.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


I wish I could, Rey. There are no other options for accepting payments on ebay.

If I can't get this restriction lifted, I'll do my best to create a website. Something I currently know nothing about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445

I've used non PayPal transactions before on ebay.
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02/28/2019 09:02 PM

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Ok...I just found your problem;

Prohibited Activities

You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:

violate any law, statute, ordinance or regulation.
relate to transactions involving (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) cigarettes, (d) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (e) stolen goods including digital and virtual goods, (f) the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory or the financial exploitation of a crime, (g) items that are considered obscene, (h) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (i) certain sexually oriented materials or services, (j) ammunition, firearms, or certain firearm parts or accessories, or (k) certain weapons or knives regulated under applicable law.
relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item, (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f) are associated with the sale of traveler's checks or money orders, (h) involve currency exchanges or check cashing businesses, (i) involve certain credit repair, debt settlement services, credit transactions or insurance activities, or (k) involve offering or receiving payments for the purpose of bribery or corruption.
involve the sales of products or services identified by government agencies to have a high likelihood of being fraudulent.

PAYPAL will not allow their system to be used for tobacco products, etc...blah, blah, blah

BUT


IF you wish to sell E-Cig related products you have to have prior approval.

Here is the rule;

Providing file sharing services or access to newsgroups; or selling alcoholic beverages, non-cigarette tobacco products, e-cigarettes or prescription drugs/devices.


Please send contact information, business website URL and brief business summary to [email protected]

Last Edited by FeedYourHead on 02/28/2019 09:04 PM
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For 2 years I've owned, and managed a successful ebay store.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


There is a lot of scams going on which makes it harder for Ebay & paypal both to control. Especially people like you that don't have computer skills, one wrong move and they steal your information. How you expect ebay or paypal to know it is real you.

When you receive email that ask you to click here. Never click within that email. Get out of there. If you need to go to Ebay, start from the URL of your browser (Fresh page). If you need to go to Paypal, do the same.

These hackers got so sophisticated that even the skilled people make mistakes and fall for their tricks. I am sure if you work with paypal and they know that you are a victim, they will help you. Good luck.
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02/28/2019 09:12 PM
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but we can purchase these things using paypal...
 Quoting: y2katy


^^^THIS!!!!

Paypal will ban YOU for selling something they are happy to process the payment for! It's typical double standard Libtard ideology.
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02/28/2019 09:39 PM
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List your items as empty box no contents with a big wink wink your feedback will speak for its self if your cheap enough your items will sell!
Got red karmer? I salute you!. You must of spoke your mind to someone......keep it up!
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02/28/2019 09:49 PM
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I get next day deposits with PP, and at least a $20k line of credit if I want it. I've done well over 7 figures in volume with PP. They don't mess with me whatsoever.
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416698


Agreed.

Unfortunately, they're a necessary evil for ebay sellers.

I have to admit, the left has built a powerful machine, and it's designed to chew up, and spit out anyone who disagrees with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


Use something different.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


You are such a genius.

pffft-spitsmoke
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OP, its not like you're selling Penis Candles or anything..

.oh, wait, Paypal is accepted with Penis Candle sellers!

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02/28/2019 10:09 PM
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Put lots of rainbow flags on your store page.

Concoct some aromatherapy blend that smells like Astroglide mixed with poop. Call it Eau de Anal or something.

Show them how gay friendly you are and they'll back off.

Be sure to point it out to them.


It sounds like I'm trolling but I bet it would work.
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02/28/2019 10:15 PM
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Got to love it when people start demanding capitalist private industries to do what the community wants, like as if we were communists
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Fuck Paypal and the camels they rode on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416698


Agreed.

Unfortunately, they're a necessary evil for ebay sellers.

I have to admit, the left has built a powerful machine, and it's designed to chew up, and spit out anyone who disagrees with them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


Use something different.
 Quoting: REYMEGA TRUTH


I wish I could, Rey. There are no other options for accepting payments on ebay.

If I can't get this restriction lifted, I'll do my best to create a website. Something I currently know nothing about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77203445


From what I understand, Ebay is phasing out paypal and going with their own ebay payments anyway so it won't even matter in the future. Check into it.

I've recently purchased a window curtain from an ebay seller that didn't accept paypal, only ebay's payments. I asked her why and that is what she told me.
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02/28/2019 10:24 PM
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Got to love it when people start demanding capitalist private industries to do what the community wants, like as if we were communists
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Yeah that shit went out the window when they force desegregation with realestate.





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