Breakthrough discovery in astronomy: First Black Hole image

He did a real shitty job of it.

Black hole is impossible to exist. If gravity can slow down light, bigger star light will be slower.

Why people are so stupid?

LIGO lied detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago. Gravity is instantaneous. Gravity is a inherited property of mass. Gravity is always there. Gravity don't travel at light speed. There is no ripples of the fabric of space-time.

The fabric of space-time is made of scientists fart.

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Yeah, but what if he had spent 10 minutes, or an hour on it instead of just 1 minute?

In an hour, I'd bed he'd have nearly an exact replica of the great blackhole photo. LOL.

Uh, Houston, we have a problem.











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The picture from NASA is pretty stupid. They say in the article that they colored in the orange/yellow part. It's just typical retarded shit that passes as groundbreaking science these days. You're probably right that some moran at NASA was fiddling with photoshop one day and pooped this out.

Did Astro swing into this thread at all?

There are many theoretical nonsense being portrayed as science. The standard model, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, relativity, the big bang theory, black hole, photon, time travel, dark matter, simulation.

Maxwell was wrong. there is no transverse wave/em wave moving at light speed in space, due to there is no force carrier in space.

Computer simulation can only produce digital signals, the real world is based on matter and energy.

Time is not a place, time has no location. Where is past or future? How to travel to nowhere?

Simple facts, can you see it?

NASA faked moon landing, some shadows are right under the object, means they made the video at noontime, which is not morning time as they said/should.

NASA, China, Japan all fake news about solar sails work in space, photons able to transfer momentum to solar sail to accelerate spaceship.

They lied right in front your eyes.

If light/photon has momentum, why navy laser weapon has no kinetic impact? Why does light mill not moving in a hard vacuum?

All space missions are fake, since they faked the time delay for space radio transmission.

Light/em wave passes over vacuum space at an infinite speed, moves within mediums at light speed.

All scientists think light speed is 3 x 10^8 m/s in the vacuum space, they are all wrong.

If light speed is limited in vacuum space, all stars and galaxies we see are from the past, how can scientists map the universe and measure the total mass?

It is all lies.

There is no solar wind. What's its mechanism? Why protons and electrons on the way to earth do not attract each other and form into hydrogen atoms? Why does gravity not pulling them back into the Sun?

There is no Van Allen Belts. What's its mechanism? The Sun's energy/radiation/light strength decays at 1/R^2, the only way to find stronger radiation is to get closer to the Sun. Near around earth, radiation strength is the same, within the atmosphere, it decreases. So between earth and the moon, the radiation strength is about the same, less within our atmosphere.

EM drive? powered by quantum vacuum virtual plasma. it is pseudoscience. quantum anything is imaginary.

LIGO detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago? You wave hand will produce more detectable gravity wave than far away stars explode. Why can't LIGO detect CME or earthquake?

Gravity speed is infinite, gravity has to be instantaneous, otherwise, no planets can stay in orbit.

Voyager is fake, escape velocity is a lie, gravity is decelerating it at all the times, how can it escape from the solar system? Gravity holds all planets in orbit, unless you have unlimited rocket fuel, nothing can escape. Do you really think 23 watt radio transmitter can send pictures over billions of miles?

ISS is fake, AC systems cannot work in vacuum space, heat cannot radiate into space but matter.

If heat can radiate into space, the earth will be as hot as the sun, the whole universe will be at the same temperature, thermal equilibrium.

Einstein was wrong about time dilation.

Put same atomic clocks in the sun, earth, mars, flying air plan, for 1 day.

Each clock will have a different reading.

Which time is dilated? which clock has correct time?

Time dilation is a misinterpretation of timer's moving rate/reading affected by gravity/acceleration/force upon it.

Time is not a thing, time has no location, cannot be touched, what is dilating what? How?

All things happening is at now, all existence is at now, time is forever ongoing now, all past became now, all future will become now.

What is space? Void, emptiness, nothingness, therefore, no property, no boundary, anything can fit in it.

How can gravity curve space? What is curving? Gravity is attraction force between matters/masses, there is no matter in space that can be curved.

How can gravity slow down light, so light cannot escape from big star so it becomes a black hole? If gravity can slow down light, why sunlight and flashlight have the same speed?

They took a picture of stars behind of the sun at that solar eclipse, to proved gravity bends light path?

It is another misinterpretation, hot plasma on the sun deflected star lights. our atmosphere deflects star lights the same principle.

The most famous equation e=mcc is a math trick, not fact.

Mass is condensed charged particles. energy is emf matter carried. totally different, cannot equivalent.

A 1 kg gold bar at rest has no energy but thermal energy, for it to carry 1kgcc energy, it must move at 1.414 c speed. how fast can we move a bullet?

Nuclear energy? 1 kg best fuel, how many % of it can produce heat?

The most famous experiment double slit is a misinterpretation, all waves are within a medium/matter waves, there is no light/wave in space.

Light is not wave nor particle, but electron's vibration force. try double slit experiment in a vacuum chamber, wave property will disappear.

The fabric of space-time? Ripples of gravity wave? Distortion?

What is the compound of the fabric or ripples? What is distorting what? What is the mechanism?

Why protons in an atom stick together but electron and proton don't stick together? Are protons gays?

Why did all scientists fall for such nonsense and made it mainstream?

Science today is religion.

and, so, all the Astronomers in the field are all conspiring
to deceive us and keep us in the grip of The Devil.

Well, since none of this was within the visible human spectrum, they obviously 'enhanced' the 'photo' with some kind of software. And it most likely was photoshop.

So, I'm not really sure how they are trying to convince people with an admittedly doctored photo that something is there that they can't see, so they have to photoshop it so you can see it.

I'm just saying you can't really blame the public for scratching their heads. This glowing doughnut isn't exactly...well, 'convincing'. And I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.

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Modern science is all BS.

They lied a big fart created the universe.

They lied you have monkey blood.

Lied land on the moon.

Lied 1 proton and 1 electron can form a stable atom.

Lied the Sun is fusion reactor.

Lied many many things.

Dark matter, dark energy, dark evil force rules science.

So..now that we've gotten that out of the way... where's the undoctored photo? Let's see that one.

What is the speed of gravity?

The speed of gravity is light speed.

Why?

Because all scientists say so. Textbooks say so. Everyone think so. Therefore gravity speed is 3 x 10^8 m/s.

Common mistake due to bad education.

The fact is gravity has no speed, gravity does not propagate from Sun to earth, gravity is constantly attracting the Sun and earth. Therefore gravity has no speed, it is instantaneous.

What is the speed of mass? What is the speed of charge? What is the speed of temperature?

Temperature, mass and charge just like gravity, coexisting with matter, inherited, indestructible and immortal. All instantaneous, have no speed.

Force has attitude, direction and carrier. Force has no speed. Simple fact and logic, why all scientists are confused? Our education system really sucks.

Scientists lied detected gravity wave two years ago.

Today they lied took a picture of black hole.

What is going on? They thought people are all as stupid?

Oh, check this one out. This guy did a lot better job.

Why the first image of a black hole was released April 10, 2019 from Event Horizon Telescope (EHT)

scripted bs

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All this advanced technology are from applied science.

All theoretical science are $ scam. Did nothing positive to mankind.

Actually, they didn't see what they thought was unseeable. They admit that all of this was outside the visible human spectrum and that they "enhanced" it, which means it was unseeable.

Which means they just took a black photo. Which means the rest of it is 100% admitted and confirmed by NASA to be photoshopped. And they presented all this with a smile and to roaring applause. And I'm supposed to be impressed.

What are the dim red little blobby Photoshop artifacts outside the 'event horizon'? Is that blobby light patches trying to escape death?

I didn't know light moved in a blob. LOL

You astronomers better have something good for me, because this ain't looking good, folks.



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Nobody? Nothing? We're just gonna roll with black hole photo that nobody in all of history has ever been able to photograph until now, except it was outside the visible spectrum so it was "enhanced" to make it glow?

Photoshopped 100% confirmed and admitted by NASA. No ifs, ands, or buts this time. They're just doing it in your face, now. Total complete fake and $50 million dollars down the drain to accomplish not one useful thing. NASA is a black hole. Case closed.



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You let me know when you manage to set up VLBI around the world and collect terabytes of data that contradict the black hole picture. K, thanks pumkin.

Boaty, they didn't "color it in" like a kid with crayons. It was recorded by radio telescopes, we can't perceive that wavelength with our eyes, so they chose a color with which to represent the data. It doesn't matter, you can grayscale the image if you like but the point is that it's data from a portion of the spectrum we can't perceive with our eyes. You can assign any color to it that you like, it's arbitrary, but if you want to see it that's what you have to do.

Yep! Including weather predictions, earthquake predictions and on and on. And as Diamond from the Oppenheimer Ranch Project put it, this so-called Black Hole is misinformation entirely. Perhaps the photo is real but the interpretation of it is glaringly wrong. This is a Z Pinch that accords with the Electric Universe Model. Once I began studying the Electric Universe, suddenly so many cosmic phenomena began to make some real sense. I just re-watched Susan Rennison's famous Space Weather lecture in Belgium, 2011. We are about to see some amazing plasma phenomena on our planet as well. This whole community of scientists: archaeologists, astrophysicists, solar scientists, paleontologists, electrical engineers and so on, are piecing together the real science of the future. Sadly, it may be too little too late with the Grand Solar Minimum bringing us into extinction level catastrophes...coming soon to everyone's neighborhood!

I think you've reached peak denialism.




Since you lack the intellectual equipment to asses the claim for yourself your ignorance-based opinion would be irrelevant anyway.




Behold this wonderful specimen of the Americanus tardus.




The light of heavier stars is more redshifted.

This "thinking outside the box" thing is ineffective if you don't know what a box is.




What picture from NASA?
We aren't discussing pictures from NASA.
We are discussing images from the Event Horizon Telescope, a project that doesn't involve NASA.

What's with conspiritards and their NASA obsession?




No, this means that you don't know what "photoshopped" means.
By your argument radar-images aren't real.

Fundamental Forces

All matters are made from atoms, all atoms are made from charged particles.

Charged particles only carry electrostatic force, therefore all forces matters carried must be electrostatic force in nature. Same charges repel each other, opposite charges attract each other.

Strong and weak force are imaginary, never can be measured or calculated. If there is strong force that can make protons stick together, there must be a strong force carrier, and it must be negative charged. If there is a weak force, what is the force carrier? What is its charge? How can all atoms are neutrally charged?

Magnetic force is circular electrostatic force carried by magnet or circular current. Magnet north pole carries clockwise electric force, south pole carries counterclockwise electric force.

Coulomb's force and gravity are the most accurate measured forces in labs. Magnetic force is used daily.

From Coulomb's Law, we can calculate the universal levitation force between matter 1 and matter 2 at distance R, which is the repulsion force between lines of sight electrons on the surface of matter 1 and matter 2. F=Ke x q1q2/R^2, q1 and q2 are total charge of lines of sight electrons on matter 1 and matter 2.

Levity is 10^36 times stronger than gravity, how come matters are still attracting each other with gravity?

Because gravity is the net electrostatic force between charged particles between neutrally charged matters.

All positive charges in matter 1 attract all negative charges in matter 2 and repel all positive charges, all negative charges in matter 1 attract all positive charges in matter 2 and repel all negative charges.

Due to electrostatic force induction between neutrally charges matters, the net force is always a weak attraction force we called gravity F=G x m1m2/R^2.

Gravity causes matter formation, planet in orbit. Coulomb's force and levity causes all other nature phenomenon. Such as quantum entanglement, induction, photoelectric effect, radiation and light.

Forces are coexisting with matters, forces are continuing and instantaneously through out space, therefore energy able to teleport between matters.

Hot plasma on the Sun carry vibrating electrostatic force/energy, that energy teleport to Earth outer atmosphere through levity and propagate in air at light speed.

LIGO mistaken detected gravity wave from 1.3 billion years ago, gravity is instantaneous, gravity wave is instant. If gravity is not instantaneous, no planets can have stable orbit.

Scientists mistaken accurate measured Milky Way Galaxy total mass. They thought far away stars are from the past, light is photon particles traveling in space at light speed.

The fact is all matters and energy are existing at forever ongoing now, nothing is existing in the past or future. There is no such thing as photon particle, no photon or EM wave traveling in space at light speed.

Light is vibrating electrostatic force carried by vibrating electrons propagating through matter produced mechanical wave. Light can only coexist with matter, charge and plasma. Light speed in a medium is the rate of induction of electrostatic force. There is no light in space, light teleport between matters in space instantly.

All theories based on light speed in vacuum space is C are mistaken.

Stars are not fusion reactors. Stars don’t radiate light into space at light speed at all directions. Energy must coexist with matter. Stars only radiate thermal energy with planets according to their distance. If stars are fusion reactors, where is all the energy produced in the past? Why the temperature of the universe is not raising up?

All energy is came from atom formation, opposite charged particles attract each other, same charged particles repel each other, atoms able to form and carry formation energy, which is vibration electrostatic force carried by vibrating charged particles. Every atom is a perpetual machine.

The more atoms attracted together under gravity, the bigger mass, the higher energy density, the higher temperature and the higher vibration frequency.

The Sun shares its thermal energy with Earth, also works as a heat sink, it keeps Earth temperature stable. All the heat we produced is radiated to the Sun, therefore Earth temperature is not raising up.

Energy is conserved, the universe is a perpetual machine, the big bang theory is mistaken.

I was able to detect the jet coming from that black hole with my telescope last night. It was quite challenging due to the moonlight, but the sky was clear so I went for it:
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Hopefully if I can get some good weather with less moonlight I can do a webcast of it and get better data to process a color image. The above image is exclusively from the blue channel of my camera.

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Are you kidding?

Nope, in fact I took an even better image the night before last, and live streamed myself taking the image.

What makes you to think that is a black hole?

How clear moon shot can your telescope take?

Well the fact that the material in the jet I just photographed is moving at relativistic speeds is a pretty darn good indicator, even before considering the fact it has now been directly imaged by the Event Horizon Telescope.
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Very.

Is the jet always there or just for a moment?

How come they took a picture of the hole but not the jet?

It's always there, but the material in it is traveling so close to the speed of light that it visibly changes and shifts over the years.

Because it's orders of magnitude too small a field of view to see the jet. They were trying to resolve the accretion disk and the shadow of the event horizon, not the jet. The jet has long been photographed and resolved by other telescopes. Even amateur equipment like mine can do that.