Chemotherapy warning as hundreds die from cancer-fighting drugs | |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 07/20/2019 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chemotherapy, among a number of possible remedies, would be the very last thing I would try. 75% of doctors would refuse it for themselves, but would recommend that 75% of their patients do it. [link to usareally.com (secure)] I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Arnie
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76605456 Canada 07/20/2019 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The efficacy of chemotherapy is 3%. Basically it is a mustard gas (World War 1) derivative. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Development of the first chemotherapy drug Edit As early as 1919 it was known that mustard agent was a suppressor of hematopoiesis.[37] In addition, autopsies performed on 75 soldiers who had died of mustard agent during World War I were done by researchers from the University of Pennsylvania who reported decreased counts of white blood cells.[32] " |
Sea Island Cotton
User ID: 65050572 United States 07/20/2019 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three and a half years since my 8 chemo treatments and 32 radiation treatments. Stage 3 breast cancer. Same course of treatment that my oncologists' wife went through. It worked for her and it has worked for me. I traveled to a cancer center out of town where their death rate from treatments were extremely low. The cancer center here in the city I live has always had a higher level of deaths for their cancer patients receiving treatments. I think a lot of that has to do with doses being too strong. Last Edited by Sea Island Cotton on 07/20/2019 10:56 AM |
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The Proxy User ID: 77567303 United States 07/20/2019 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is prescribed because it is BIG BUSINESS. Costs lots of money for near nothing in return. They killed my brother with it. Gave it to him "just in case" they said. His tests came back negative but he got it anyhow. Bingo, less than a month, gone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76640974 United States 07/20/2019 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What’s the solution? I found a few books to be extremely helpful when looking for alternative cure methods How not to die, by Dr. Michael Greger, is hands down one of the best pieces of literature on plant based diets and diseases and cancer. Another book I like is conscious parenting by Gabriel cousins M.D. It’s a great book not just for parents but even if your single there is a lot of helpful information for holistic wellbeing. Both books are cited with all the sources of information which I found helpful to do secondary research through. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77554547 United States 07/20/2019 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Treatment for some cancers would be direct injection into the tumor with a cocktail of drugs and stem cells. The entire person would not be subjected to chemotherapy. This type of treatment may be more costly on the front end, but results would be more successful. |
DeplorablePOS
User ID: 32787617 United States 07/20/2019 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck Amazon....not clicking that shit "I believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a republic; a sovereign nation of many sovereign states; a perfect union one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes. I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey it laws; to respect its flag; and to defend it against all enemies." -William Page |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35676288 United States 07/20/2019 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and... the majority of cancer diagnoses are wrong. Quoting: visitor 76197297 dr. death practicing medicine. Yes this worrisome, the last thing people want is Doctors telling them they have Cancer when they don't! Everyone has cancer in their system. Its the job of the lymph system to collect it. How does the body dump it? or drain the lymph system? UNDER THEIR ARMS! Stop using under arm products Stop eat sugar (feeds it) Get sunlight (kills it) Keep body at 99deg Get ozoneators. oxygen kills cancer I beat it given a week to live |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11126160 United States 07/20/2019 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and... the majority of cancer diagnoses are wrong. Quoting: visitor 76197297 dr. death practicing medicine. Yes this worrisome, the last thing people want is Doctors telling them they have Cancer when they don't! Everyone has cancer in their system. Its the job of the lymph system to collect it. How does the body dump it? or drain the lymph system? UNDER THEIR ARMS! Stop using under arm products Stop eat sugar (feeds it) Get sunlight (kills it) Keep body at 99deg Get ozoneators. oxygen kills cancer I beat it given a week to live AWESOME!!! |
zzcat
User ID: 76873845 United States 07/20/2019 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 30 AUGUST 2016 • 11:30PM Quoting: CitizenPerth Patients should be warned about the dangers of chemotherapy after research showed that cancer drugs are killing up to 50 per cent of patients in some hospitals. For the first time researchers looked at the numbers of cancer patients who died within 30 days of starting chemotherapy, which indicates that the medication is the cause of death, rather than the cancer. The study by Public Health England and Cancer Research UK found that across England around 8.4 per cent of patients with lung cancer, and 2.4 per cent of breast cancer patients died within a month. But in some hospitals the figure was far higher. In Milton Keynes the death rate for lung cancer treatment was 50.9 per cent, although it was based on a very small number of patients. At Lancashire Teaching Hospitals the 30 day mortality rate was 28 per cent for palliative chemotherapy for lung cancer, which is given when a cure is not expected and treatment given to alleviate symptoms. Deaths of lung cancer patients from chemotherapy were also far higher than the national average in Blackpool, Coventry, Derby, South Tyneside and Surrey and Sussex, according to the research. Similarly, around one in five people who underwent palliative care for breast cancer at Cambridge University Hospitals died from their treatment. Public Health England (PHE), said it had contacted the hospitals concerned to ask them to review practices. Dr Jem Rashbass, Cancer Lead for PHE, said: “Chemotherapy is a vital part of cancer treatment and is a large reason behind the improved survival rates over last four decades. “However, it is powerful medication with significant side effects and often getting the balance right on which patients to treat aggressively can be hard. “Those hospitals whose death rates are outside the expected range have had the findings shared with them and we have asked them to review their practice and data.” The study looked at more than 23,000 women with breast cancer and nearly 10,000 men with 9634 non-small cell lung cancer who underwent chemotherapy in 2014. Of those treated 1,383 died within 30 days. [end snip] Full Article: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)] My dad died within 2 months of starting chemo. Heart attack. Chemo tore his body up zzcat who says Schrodinger's cat is even in the box |
TlvmmCpoft
User ID: 77347043 Poland 07/20/2019 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "effectiveness" is based on flawed research to begin with. I was one of the original research "chemo kids" and was that whopping "5% success rate" they had near the beginning. Problem is, my guardian was doing administrative work in that field at the time and had forged my papers to look like I had leukemia because the research subjects (or their parents) were being paid and she was an addict always in need of cash. I didn't have cancer when I went into chemo, so when I initially came out without cancer, they listed it as a success. For all we know, once the internal scamming, conning, and number fudging is done, the success rate of chemo may have been zero. In fact, it's likely. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 07/20/2019 01:04 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 77021014 United States 07/20/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: De-Worming drug for DOGS cures man of Cancer!!!!! I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
zzcat
User ID: 76873845 United States 07/20/2019 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My best friend just died recently too. 2 months after starting a new cancer treatment. Some type of shot. She immediately got worse and never recovered. Plus with the stupid war against pain medicine she was in agony. Supposedly it was a slow growing cancer and she had 20 years. But the pain and the worsening of the pain and symptoms after starting the shots she couldn't ear or drink and ended up dying from dehydration and her organs shut down. If she would have had just pain medicine and no cancer treatment I'm sure she would have lived at least another 10 years Oh and 3 months before that my daughter's mil died from cancer...treatment. 3 months after starting chemo she rapidly deteriorated Last Edited by zzcat on 07/20/2019 01:15 PM zzcat who says Schrodinger's cat is even in the box |
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TlvmmCpoft
User ID: 77347043 Poland 07/20/2019 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My best friend just died recently too. 2 months after starting a new cancer treatment. Some type of shot. She immediately got worse and never recovered. Plus with the stupid war against pain medicine she was in agony. Supposedly it was a slow growing cancer and she had 20 years. But the pain and the worsening of the pain and symptoms after starting the shots she couldn't ear or drink and ended up dying from dehydration and her organs shut down. If she would have had just pain medicine and no cancer treatment I'm sure she would have lived at least another 10 years Quoting: zzcat Oh and 3 months before that my daughter's mil died from cancer...treatment. 3 months after starting chemo she rapidly deteriorated So sorry for your loss. Surgery is almost always the preferred method. I developed a cancer after chemo (see my previous post) and said fuck it when I was finally an adult and had the right to be in charge of my medical treatment - and could treat it. I wouldn't touch chemo or radiation - those are never things I would choose for myself. I know my health and I know what it can handle. So, I went with surgery. It's been 20 years and I'm still on this planet, and its not thanks to chemo - that crap nearly killed me even when I was healthy. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 07/20/2019 01:21 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
zzcat
User ID: 76873845 United States 07/20/2019 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My best friend just died recently too. 2 months after starting a new cancer treatment. Some type of shot. She immediately got worse and never recovered. Plus with the stupid war against pain medicine she was in agony. Supposedly it was a slow growing cancer and she had 20 years. But the pain and the worsening of the pain and symptoms after starting the shots she couldn't ear or drink and ended up dying from dehydration and her organs shut down. If she would have had just pain medicine and no cancer treatment I'm sure she would have lived at least another 10 years Quoting: zzcat Oh and 3 months before that my daughter's mil died from cancer...treatment. 3 months after starting chemo she rapidly deteriorated So sorry for your loss. Surgery is almost always the preferred method. I developed a cancer after chemo (see my previous post) and said fuck it when I was finally an adult and had the right to be in charge of my medical treatment - and could treat it. I wouldn't touch chemo or radiation - those are never things I would choose for myself. I know my health and I know what it can handle. So, I went with surgery. It's been 20 years and I'm still on this planet, and its not thanks to chemo - that crap nearly killed me even when I was healthy. I'm glad you made it. zzcat who says Schrodinger's cat is even in the box |
CitizenPerth
(OP) User ID: 77836459 Australia 07/20/2019 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and... the majority of cancer diagnoses are wrong. Quoting: visitor 76197297 dr. death practicing medicine. Yes this worrisome, the last thing people want is Doctors telling them they have Cancer when they don't! Everyone has cancer in their system. Its the job of the lymph system to collect it. How does the body dump it? or drain the lymph system? UNDER THEIR ARMS! Stop using under arm products Stop eat sugar (feeds it) Get sunlight (kills it) Keep body at 99deg Get ozoneators. oxygen kills cancer I beat it given a week to live and ionizers.... they are the bomb.. It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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TlvmmCpoft
User ID: 77347043 Poland 07/20/2019 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My best friend just died recently too. 2 months after starting a new cancer treatment. Some type of shot. She immediately got worse and never recovered. Plus with the stupid war against pain medicine she was in agony. Supposedly it was a slow growing cancer and she had 20 years. But the pain and the worsening of the pain and symptoms after starting the shots she couldn't ear or drink and ended up dying from dehydration and her organs shut down. If she would have had just pain medicine and no cancer treatment I'm sure she would have lived at least another 10 years Quoting: zzcat Oh and 3 months before that my daughter's mil died from cancer...treatment. 3 months after starting chemo she rapidly deteriorated So sorry for your loss. Surgery is almost always the preferred method. I developed a cancer after chemo (see my previous post) and said fuck it when I was finally an adult and had the right to be in charge of my medical treatment - and could treat it. I wouldn't touch chemo or radiation - those are never things I would choose for myself. I know my health and I know what it can handle. So, I went with surgery. It's been 20 years and I'm still on this planet, and its not thanks to chemo - that crap nearly killed me even when I was healthy. I'm glad you made it. Thanks. I barely did. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77824465 United States 07/20/2019 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First... There are tons of different chemo medications used for treatment for different cancers. Chemo is a drug classification and not an actual drug name. Doctors know the statistics and your Oncologist can spout them off to you as far as the effectiveness of the chemo you are getting. I was told 70% survival rate with the course of treatment I was getting for stage 3 cancer. I am on chemo right now and do not get all the bad side effects. I am younger, so that might play a part, but I smoke copious amounts of weed and have never felt sick as a result of a chemo infusion. Also, if you believe everything you read on the internet, then you deserve what you get in the end. You can follow one of those bullshit remedies that are all anecdotal with no evidence to back them up, or take the proven statistically sound method of treatment that your Doctors will recommend. You can ask your Doctor for what treatment they would do if they were in your shoes and they will answer you accordingly. This thread just showcases the lack of trust most on here have with the medical profession. If you don't trust your Doctor, get a new one. They are human after all.... |
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CitizenPerth
(OP) User ID: 77836459 Australia 07/20/2019 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of assumptions being thrown around in this thread. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77824465 First... There are tons of different chemo medications used for treatment for different cancers. Chemo is a drug classification and not an actual drug name. Doctors know the statistics and your Oncologist can spout them off to you as far as the effectiveness of the chemo you are getting. I was told 70% survival rate with the course of treatment I was getting for stage 3 cancer. I am on chemo right now and do not get all the bad side effects. I am younger, so that might play a part, but I smoke copious amounts of weed and have never felt sick as a result of a chemo infusion. Also, if you believe everything you read on the internet, then you deserve what you get in the end. You can follow one of those bullshit remedies that are all anecdotal with no evidence to back them up, or take the proven statistically sound method of treatment that your Doctors will recommend. You can ask your Doctor for what treatment they would do if they were in your shoes and they will answer you accordingly. This thread just showcases the lack of trust most on here have with the medical profession. If you don't trust your Doctor, get a new one. They are human after all.... your response was two fold... first, i'm glad you are doing well.... but? 1. your choice of a herb to battle things is awesome... and leads to 2. Poison therapy that is indiscriminate, speaks loudly to the fact the all patients are guinea pigs... radiation (the cause of most cancers) and chemo.. and indiscriminate cell killer? are hit and miss at the most.... don't do what my fiance did... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30401440 United States 07/20/2019 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say what you will, but I've personally seen Chemotherapy save 4 life's...One of those life's are outside gardening as I type, and was given 6-8 months to live...So keep that in mind..aThere is a reason they use it people, so don't say things on here, or give bad advise that could cost someone Their life!!! |
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