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could be as simple as your father being tired of whatever condition/illness he has.
you have nothing to fear or be frustrated about.
this doesn't mean he doesn't love his family--somethings as in a severe chronic illness it becomes exhausting ,endless and a person gets tired of fighting IT.
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now OP and his kid who raised a hand to him and was disciplined ? LOL and his father didn't approve of the discipline applied ? LOL
i'd send the kid over to pop pop permanently.
that is a line that is never to be crossed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


it's going to be OK.
you can't measure things by a past standard as it all has changed to a different level now-i gather your father has a terminal illness and cannot get any better ?
just don't go through this in fear----most out here already been thru it and did fine. HE IS the priority,his comfort,his ease and peace.
regarding the eating--if you know what he enjoyed,give it to him BUT only a small amount and on a small plate--just give it to him--if he refuses,don't get upset-simply say OK..try another thing later.ASK him what can anyone do to help--if he sez leave me alone then simply step back,not isolate,step back-wait,he'll tell you when he's ready to.---
i remember w/my dad,he was literally dying,not eating was also present & a problem, but one day he wanted a chinese take out thing called "happy family" was sea food,pork,chicken and rice of course--i went out & got it and he could only manage a teaspoon or 2 but it made him happy-omg what an argument went on w/my mother over his eating that--what the hell was the problem ? the sodium ? FFS he's dying and knows IT,we know IT- let him have what he wants.
even try shot sized glass of pepsi,tea etc-keep portions small-he might say what the hell is this ! but that has him thinkin and talking.
everything will be OK---you know what to do. he is the priority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


That's a sweet memory. I'm sorry about your dad. hf

My dad doesn't have a terminal disease. He has Parkinson's (for 13 years) and major back issues that have gotten to the point where he falls all the time, and can barely walk or even stand. There are days when he can't move at all. If he falls or he is in bed and can't move, he could be like that for an entire day.

I went with him to a neurosurgeon a week ago, and his words to my dad were that his back "is a mess." My dad had back surgery 3 years ago and it did nothing. This doctor told him that with my dad's age, the Parkinson's and rigidity, the surgery would be be much longer up his spine, the recovery would be longer and there was NO guarantee that it would improve his life. I asked the doctor if physical therapy would help my dad, and he basically laughed.We left there feeling like there was no hope for my dad.

A few months ago, when he was in one of those paralyzed states, the way his right arm was positioned cut off the blood flow. He now has very little use of his dominant arm/hand and has to rely on his left arm which was the bad one. He can't really feed himself right now.

He is also supposed to be going for brain surgery which could help with his Parkinson's, but I'm pretty sure they won't do it if my dad is this malnourished.

I've been trying to explain to him that if he eats and drinks water, he may start to feel a little better. I think the difficulty walking and the falls and weakness have a lot to do with his legs just literally being bones. I've also told him that he has to be healthy and strong for the brain surgery which I really do believe can help my dad.

My plan is to call my mom every day, starting first thing in the morning, to make sure that he is eating. I can't give up.

Thank you for the advice and sharing your experiences. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


My mom has really bad back issues, and also just got some bad news a few days ago. She did not want to eat. Well, I got a protein powder and blended it with ice cream and some ice. She loved it, and got the protein she badly needed. I hope maybe that can help.

hf
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Sounds to me like you have it figured out already
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Oh yea you got a boomer dad too? It’s not the best. I suppose I should be thankful I didn’t get beat. Next time he starts talking stupid shit just change the subject to how much of a badass he is and ask about something you know he’ll have a story for.
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I probably didn't whip my kids as often as I should have, but, it is better than I had growing up.

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Anyone else notice that OP has disappeared?

Fuckery about...
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Stick a big black dildo in his ass. He’ll stop bothering you.
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This is a little known secret. I did this to my tax accountant that I owed some money and he left me alone. Great advice
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Honor thy father and mother that thy days may be long on the Earth.

5th commandment. And comes with a promise for longevity if you abide by this

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My dad and I bumped heads hard when I was a teenager (I'm 56). I never expected him to agree with me, I just wanted to be able to say my piece and have him hear me out.

He always shouted me down. He really was an overbearing, egotistical jerk.

We were never really close after that. I moved out at 18 and then moved 500+ miles away a couple of years later.

He and my mom came up a few times to visit, but he hadn't changed. He still acted like royalty and expected everyone to wait on him hand and foot.

Not happening in my house.

He passed away about 18 months ago at age 90. His last months were pretty rough. I went down to So Cal for his memorial service, but honestly, I felt nothing.
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I hear you. I moved 600 miles away. I gave it my all for many years, the times we visited each other, to no avail but more pain and angst. I had to cut him off completely for many years for self-preservation, but tried again after a family emergency. He was worse than before. I haven't spoken to him at all in at least 5 years now. He is still living (last I heard), but I assume that I too won't feel much when he passes.
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Im no young kid im 37 year old man, i love respect my father but, am very much tired of his shit.
Bringing up old shit just to prove a point ect...
im one to forget about bullshit and move on.



My kid smacked me in the face on vacation in Hawaii so in return i man handled him made him cry, and then later told him why i did that. But I didn’t apologize to my son ( no reason).

My father had the audacity to bring that up like I did something wrong (btw I brought him with us)im a weekend dad.

My got the shit kicked out of me on a regular basis by the old man, on the phone tonight when he brought all this up, i had to tell him to shut the fuck up and dont talk about my son.
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My dad and I bumped heads hard when I was a teenager (I'm 56). I never expected him to agree with me, I just wanted to be able to say my piece and have him hear me out.

He always shouted me down. He really was an overbearing, egotistical jerk.

We were never really close after that. I moved out at 18 and then moved 500+ miles away a couple of years later.

He and my mom came up a few times to visit, but he hadn't changed. He still acted like royalty and expected everyone to wait on him hand and foot.

Not happening in my house.

He passed away about 18 months ago at age 90. His last months were pretty rough. I went down to So Cal for his memorial service, but honestly, I felt nothing.
 Quoting: Crunch62


I hear you. I moved 600 miles away. I gave it my all for many years, the times we visited each other, to no avail but more pain and angst. I had to cut him off completely for many years for self-preservation, but tried again after a family emergency. He was worse than before. I haven't spoken to him at all in at least 5 years now. He is still living (last I heard), but I assume that I too won't feel much when he passes.
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I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


it's going to be OK.
you can't measure things by a past standard as it all has changed to a different level now-i gather your father has a terminal illness and cannot get any better ?
just don't go through this in fear----most out here already been thru it and did fine. HE IS the priority,his comfort,his ease and peace.
regarding the eating--if you know what he enjoyed,give it to him BUT only a small amount and on a small plate--just give it to him--if he refuses,don't get upset-simply say OK..try another thing later.ASK him what can anyone do to help--if he sez leave me alone then simply step back,not isolate,step back-wait,he'll tell you when he's ready to.---
i remember w/my dad,he was literally dying,not eating was also present & a problem, but one day he wanted a chinese take out thing called "happy family" was sea food,pork,chicken and rice of course--i went out & got it and he could only manage a teaspoon or 2 but it made him happy-omg what an argument went on w/my mother over his eating that--what the hell was the problem ? the sodium ? FFS he's dying and knows IT,we know IT- let him have what he wants.
even try shot sized glass of pepsi,tea etc-keep portions small-he might say what the hell is this ! but that has him thinkin and talking.
everything will be OK---you know what to do. he is the priority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


That's a sweet memory. I'm sorry about your dad. hf

My dad doesn't have a terminal disease. He has Parkinson's (for 13 years) and major back issues that have gotten to the point where he falls all the time, and can barely walk or even stand. There are days when he can't move at all. If he falls or he is in bed and can't move, he could be like that for an entire day.

I went with him to a neurosurgeon a week ago, and his words to my dad were that his back "is a mess." My dad had back surgery 3 years ago and it did nothing. This doctor told him that with my dad's age, the Parkinson's and rigidity, the surgery would be be much longer up his spine, the recovery would be longer and there was NO guarantee that it would improve his life. I asked the doctor if physical therapy would help my dad, and he basically laughed.We left there feeling like there was no hope for my dad.

A few months ago, when he was in one of those paralyzed states, the way his right arm was positioned cut off the blood flow. He now has very little use of his dominant arm/hand and has to rely on his left arm which was the bad one. He can't really feed himself right now.

He is also supposed to be going for brain surgery which could help with his Parkinson's, but I'm pretty sure they won't do it if my dad is this malnourished.

I've been trying to explain to him that if he eats and drinks water, he may start to feel a little better. I think the difficulty walking and the falls and weakness have a lot to do with his legs just literally being bones. I've also told him that he has to be healthy and strong for the brain surgery which I really do believe can help my dad.

My plan is to call my mom every day, starting first thing in the morning, to make sure that he is eating. I can't give up.

Thank you for the advice and sharing your experiences. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


My mom has really bad back issues, and also just got some bad news a few days ago. She did not want to eat. Well, I got a protein powder and blended it with ice cream and some ice. She loved it, and got the protein she badly needed. I hope maybe that can help.

hf
 Quoting: LilMiss


I'm sorry about the bad news. hf

I did buy him a tub of protein power about a month or so ago, but unfortunately it didn't help. I called my parents a bunch of times today to hear what my dad had eaten, and I'm just gonna keep doing that.
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it's going to be OK.
you can't measure things by a past standard as it all has changed to a different level now-i gather your father has a terminal illness and cannot get any better ?
just don't go through this in fear----most out here already been thru it and did fine. HE IS the priority,his comfort,his ease and peace.
regarding the eating--if you know what he enjoyed,give it to him BUT only a small amount and on a small plate--just give it to him--if he refuses,don't get upset-simply say OK..try another thing later.ASK him what can anyone do to help--if he sez leave me alone then simply step back,not isolate,step back-wait,he'll tell you when he's ready to.---
i remember w/my dad,he was literally dying,not eating was also present & a problem, but one day he wanted a chinese take out thing called "happy family" was sea food,pork,chicken and rice of course--i went out & got it and he could only manage a teaspoon or 2 but it made him happy-omg what an argument went on w/my mother over his eating that--what the hell was the problem ? the sodium ? FFS he's dying and knows IT,we know IT- let him have what he wants.
even try shot sized glass of pepsi,tea etc-keep portions small-he might say what the hell is this ! but that has him thinkin and talking.
everything will be OK---you know what to do. he is the priority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


That's a sweet memory. I'm sorry about your dad. hf

My dad doesn't have a terminal disease. He has Parkinson's (for 13 years) and major back issues that have gotten to the point where he falls all the time, and can barely walk or even stand. There are days when he can't move at all. If he falls or he is in bed and can't move, he could be like that for an entire day.

I went with him to a neurosurgeon a week ago, and his words to my dad were that his back "is a mess." My dad had back surgery 3 years ago and it did nothing. This doctor told him that with my dad's age, the Parkinson's and rigidity, the surgery would be be much longer up his spine, the recovery would be longer and there was NO guarantee that it would improve his life. I asked the doctor if physical therapy would help my dad, and he basically laughed.We left there feeling like there was no hope for my dad.

A few months ago, when he was in one of those paralyzed states, the way his right arm was positioned cut off the blood flow. He now has very little use of his dominant arm/hand and has to rely on his left arm which was the bad one. He can't really feed himself right now.

He is also supposed to be going for brain surgery which could help with his Parkinson's, but I'm pretty sure they won't do it if my dad is this malnourished.

I've been trying to explain to him that if he eats and drinks water, he may start to feel a little better. I think the difficulty walking and the falls and weakness have a lot to do with his legs just literally being bones. I've also told him that he has to be healthy and strong for the brain surgery which I really do believe can help my dad.

My plan is to call my mom every day, starting first thing in the morning, to make sure that he is eating. I can't give up.

Thank you for the advice and sharing your experiences. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


My mom has really bad back issues, and also just got some bad news a few days ago. She did not want to eat. Well, I got a protein powder and blended it with ice cream and some ice. She loved it, and got the protein she badly needed. I hope maybe that can help.

hf
 Quoting: LilMiss


I'm sorry about the bad news. hf

I did buy him a tub of protein power about a month or so ago, but unfortunately it didn't help. I called my parents a bunch of times today to hear what my dad had eaten, and I'm just gonna keep doing that.
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im sorry to hear this girls. I don't know if it will help, but from my experience and stories from my friends, that generation/age group can be a little.......stubborn.

my mom didn't tell me she had cancer until four years into it. I gave her my apartment and tried to be helpful but at that point it was too late. She smoked right until the end, these habits and lifestyles are really hard to change..i wish she had told me sooner so we could have done the research and found out what to do. I am very grateful though, that she came back to Jesus and I really believe she went to a better place. Im not trying to proselytise but having God in my life really helped with the whole thing..

my prayers are with you.

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I raised my voice at my dad earlier today...but it was out of fear and frustration. I want him to care about fighting what he's going through and doing little things like EAT and DRINK. He's so weak, I felt like he wasn't even hearing me. I also got upset with my mom. It was pretty hellish today.

I've never ever told my parents to eff off. I can understand why you'd be upset with your dad in that situation though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


could be as simple as your father being tired of whatever condition/illness he has.
you have nothing to fear or be frustrated about.
this doesn't mean he doesn't love his family--somethings as in a severe chronic illness it becomes exhausting ,endless and a person gets tired of fighting IT.
________
now OP and his kid who raised a hand to him and was disciplined ? LOL and his father didn't approve of the discipline applied ? LOL
i'd send the kid over to pop pop permanently.
that is a line that is never to be crossed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


Hes is shock? Stop beating him up with your emotional.shi* or he will die of misery?? Its NOT about YOU for God's sake?

If its even true and you want to explore comfort options you can send me an email address but you are making your wish for him most important. Think about that? Stop badgering and just say you are sorry, you just dont want him to go and you are a wreck because you feel like you are letting him down and failing to help him.

Hes got news that can set them back, make them sick? Take gentle care of him and give him a few days.

Sometimes they do die to escape their relatives because they are exhausted trying to please people. Quit...being mean to him emotionally because hes depressed and not doing what you want.

Remedies abound but you have become wrecked yourself and need to find you a little spot of some grace and rest it all a minute. I did not read all this? But if i have any ideas that will help i will help? But i cant answer pms and the chomos of deathrael hide my email from members so you will not have help. But most all gays are broken, shi**y and mean....now add tribe...but get some air, take a breath and get a good sleep in if nothing else.

Its very hard. Lets see if your efforts so far can pan out better? Best to you
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sorry Timur...but being sick doesn't give someone license to treat others like shit....especially family...unless they are uncognizant.
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I raised my voice at my dad earlier today...but it was out of fear and frustration. I want him to care about fighting what he's going through and doing little things like EAT and DRINK. He's so weak, I felt like he wasn't even hearing me. I also got upset with my mom. It was pretty hellish today.

I've never ever told my parents to eff off. I can understand why you'd be upset with your dad in that situation though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


could be as simple as your father being tired of whatever condition/illness he has.
you have nothing to fear or be frustrated about.
this doesn't mean he doesn't love his family--somethings as in a severe chronic illness it becomes exhausting ,endless and a person gets tired of fighting IT.
________
now OP and his kid who raised a hand to him and was disciplined ? LOL and his father didn't approve of the discipline applied ? LOL
i'd send the kid over to pop pop permanently.
that is a line that is never to be crossed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


Hes is shock? Stop beating him up with your emotional.shi* or he will die of misery?? Its NOT about YOU for God's sake?

If its even true and you want to explore comfort options you can send me an email address but you are making your wish for him most important. Think about that? Stop badgering and just say you are sorry, you just dont want him to go and you are a wreck because you feel like you are letting him down and failing to help him.

Hes got news that can set them back, make them sick? Take gentle care of him and give him a few days.

Sometimes they do die to escape their relatives because they are exhausted trying to please people. Quit...being mean to him emotionally because hes depressed and not doing what you want.

Remedies abound but you have become wrecked yourself and need to find you a little spot of some grace and rest it all a minute. I did not read all this? But if i have any ideas that will help i will help? But i cant answer pms and the chomos of deathrael hide my email from members so you will not have help. But most all gays are broken, shi**y and mean....now add tribe...but get some air, take a breath and get a good sleep in if nothing else.

Its very hard. Lets see if your efforts so far can pan out better? Best to you
 Quoting: Timur2020


My best friend of 37 years is starving himself to death.
I resolved to let him die how and when he wants.
Its not my wish for him

He's been my real life angel. Honestly hes saved me at least 100 times

Hes the closest to a husband ive had

I feel selfish wanting him to live in pain just so i dont have to face this world alone
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I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


it's going to be OK.
you can't measure things by a past standard as it all has changed to a different level now-i gather your father has a terminal illness and cannot get any better ?
just don't go through this in fear----most out here already been thru it and did fine. HE IS the priority,his comfort,his ease and peace.
regarding the eating--if you know what he enjoyed,give it to him BUT only a small amount and on a small plate--just give it to him--if he refuses,don't get upset-simply say OK..try another thing later.ASK him what can anyone do to help--if he sez leave me alone then simply step back,not isolate,step back-wait,he'll tell you when he's ready to.---
i remember w/my dad,he was literally dying,not eating was also present & a problem, but one day he wanted a chinese take out thing called "happy family" was sea food,pork,chicken and rice of course--i went out & got it and he could only manage a teaspoon or 2 but it made him happy-omg what an argument went on w/my mother over his eating that--what the hell was the problem ? the sodium ? FFS he's dying and knows IT,we know IT- let him have what he wants.
even try shot sized glass of pepsi,tea etc-keep portions small-he might say what the hell is this ! but that has him thinkin and talking.
everything will be OK---you know what to do. he is the priority.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77900653


That's a sweet memory. I'm sorry about your dad. hf

My dad doesn't have a terminal disease. He has Parkinson's (for 13 years) and major back issues that have gotten to the point where he falls all the time, and can barely walk or even stand. There are days when he can't move at all. If he falls or he is in bed and can't move, he could be like that for an entire day.

I went with him to a neurosurgeon a week ago, and his words to my dad were that his back "is a mess." My dad had back surgery 3 years ago and it did nothing. This doctor told him that with my dad's age, the Parkinson's and rigidity, the surgery would be be much longer up his spine, the recovery would be longer and there was NO guarantee that it would improve his life. I asked the doctor if physical therapy would help my dad, and he basically laughed.We left there feeling like there was no hope for my dad.

A few months ago, when he was in one of those paralyzed states, the way his right arm was positioned cut off the blood flow. He now has very little use of his dominant arm/hand and has to rely on his left arm which was the bad one. He can't really feed himself right now.

He is also supposed to be going for brain surgery which could help with his Parkinson's, but I'm pretty sure they won't do it if my dad is this malnourished.

I've been trying to explain to him that if he eats and drinks water, he may start to feel a little better. I think the difficulty walking and the falls and weakness have a lot to do with his legs just literally being bones. I've also told him that he has to be healthy and strong for the brain surgery which I really do believe can help my dad.

My plan is to call my mom every day, starting first thing in the morning, to make sure that he is eating. I can't give up.

Thank you for the advice and sharing your experiences. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Girl


My mom has really bad back issues, and also just got some bad news a few days ago. She did not want to eat. Well, I got a protein powder and blended it with ice cream and some ice. She loved it, and got the protein she badly needed. I hope maybe that can help.

hf
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That's pretty much how you have to do it. Instead of intellectually explaining to them why they need certain things, you find a way that they will enjoy while getting the nutrition the need......
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That's a sweet memory. I'm sorry about your dad. hf

My dad doesn't have a terminal disease. He has Parkinson's (for 13 years) and major back issues that have gotten to the point where he falls all the time, and can barely walk or even stand. There are days when he can't move at all. If he falls or he is in bed and can't move, he could be like that for an entire day.

I went with him to a neurosurgeon a week ago, and his words to my dad were that his back "is a mess." My dad had back surgery 3 years ago and it did nothing. This doctor told him that with my dad's age, the Parkinson's and rigidity, the surgery would be be much longer up his spine, the recovery would be longer and there was NO guarantee that it would improve his life. I asked the doctor if physical therapy would help my dad, and he basically laughed.We left there feeling like there was no hope for my dad.

A few months ago, when he was in one of those paralyzed states, the way his right arm was positioned cut off the blood flow. He now has very little use of his dominant arm/hand and has to rely on his left arm which was the bad one. He can't really feed himself right now.

He is also supposed to be going for brain surgery which could help with his Parkinson's, but I'm pretty sure they won't do it if my dad is this malnourished.

I've been trying to explain to him that if he eats and drinks water, he may start to feel a little better. I think the difficulty walking and the falls and weakness have a lot to do with his legs just literally being bones. I've also told him that he has to be healthy and strong for the brain surgery which I really do believe can help my dad.

My plan is to call my mom every day, starting first thing in the morning, to make sure that he is eating. I can't give up.

Thank you for the advice and sharing your experiences. hf
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My mom has really bad back issues, and also just got some bad news a few days ago. She did not want to eat. Well, I got a protein powder and blended it with ice cream and some ice. She loved it, and got the protein she badly needed. I hope maybe that can help.

hf
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I'm sorry about the bad news. hf

I did buy him a tub of protein power about a month or so ago, but unfortunately it didn't help. I called my parents a bunch of times today to hear what my dad had eaten, and I'm just gonna keep doing that.
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im sorry to hear this girls. I don't know if it will help, but from my experience and stories from my friends, that generation/age group can be a little.......stubborn.

my mom didn't tell me she had cancer until four years into it. I gave her my apartment and tried to be helpful but at that point it was too late. She smoked right until the end, these habits and lifestyles are really hard to change..i wish she had told me sooner so we could have done the research and found out what to do. I am very grateful though, that she came back to Jesus and I really believe she went to a better place. Im not trying to proselytise but having God in my life really helped with the whole thing..

my prayers are with you.

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Omg That's awful. I do not that a lot of older people get stubborn with age. I also know that a lot of them just blindly trust doctors, are afraid to ask questions, etc.

I'm sorry for your loss. hugs



I just feel like my dad has given up on the fight. When I talk to him, he is extremely out of it most of the time. I think it's because he's so weak.

My mom called this morning to tell me that she called an ambulance again. She found him in their garage this morning (which is off limits to him because there's too much stuff he could fall on and get hurt). We don't know if he consciously went in there or if he was hallucinating (which his Parkinson's meds cause). His walker was by the door, so I'm thinking he was aware of what he was doing. It's all just a big mess.

Thank you for the prayers. I do believe in God and I pray, but the stress is pretty much unbearable.
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My mom has really bad back issues, and also just got some bad news a few days ago. She did not want to eat. Well, I got a protein powder and blended it with ice cream and some ice. She loved it, and got the protein she badly needed. I hope maybe that can help.

hf
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I'm sorry about the bad news. hf

I did buy him a tub of protein power about a month or so ago, but unfortunately it didn't help. I called my parents a bunch of times today to hear what my dad had eaten, and I'm just gonna keep doing that.
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im sorry to hear this girls. I don't know if it will help, but from my experience and stories from my friends, that generation/age group can be a little.......stubborn.

my mom didn't tell me she had cancer until four years into it. I gave her my apartment and tried to be helpful but at that point it was too late. She smoked right until the end, these habits and lifestyles are really hard to change..i wish she had told me sooner so we could have done the research and found out what to do. I am very grateful though, that she came back to Jesus and I really believe she went to a better place. Im not trying to proselytise but having God in my life really helped with the whole thing..

my prayers are with you.

rose
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Omg That's awful. I do not that a lot of older people get stubborn with age. I also know that a lot of them just blindly trust doctors, are afraid to ask questions, etc.

I'm sorry for your loss. hugs



I just feel like my dad has given up on the fight. When I talk to him, he is extremely out of it most of the time. I think it's because he's so weak.

My mom called this morning to tell me that she called an ambulance again. She found him in their garage this morning (which is off limits to him because there's too much stuff he could fall on and get hurt). We don't know if he consciously went in there or if he was hallucinating (which his Parkinson's meds cause). His walker was by the door, so I'm thinking he was aware of what he was doing. It's all just a big mess.

Thank you for the prayers. I do believe in God and I pray, but the stress is pretty much unbearable.
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that's completely heartbreaking. My mom didn't want to use conventional methods for her cancer, nor are the doctors allowed to recommend natural solutions to diseases. I find the whole thing frustrating. Perhaps there is a better alternative that wouldn't make ur dad hallucinate but they are not allowed to speak of it becasuse of $$$.

Stay strong. Even though there are terrible things in the world God will redeem the world. And im not trying to tell u what to do, but don't forget to take care of yourself!! ur probably getting phone calls like that at work and its probably really hard.... but u gotta remember don't be to hard on yourself, get rest and eat well.......



He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it."

Isaiah 25:8, KJV


"For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Revelation 7:17, KJV




"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 21:4, KJV



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I'm sorry about the bad news. hf

I did buy him a tub of protein power about a month or so ago, but unfortunately it didn't help. I called my parents a bunch of times today to hear what my dad had eaten, and I'm just gonna keep doing that.
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im sorry to hear this girls. I don't know if it will help, but from my experience and stories from my friends, that generation/age group can be a little.......stubborn.

my mom didn't tell me she had cancer until four years into it. I gave her my apartment and tried to be helpful but at that point it was too late. She smoked right until the end, these habits and lifestyles are really hard to change..i wish she had told me sooner so we could have done the research and found out what to do. I am very grateful though, that she came back to Jesus and I really believe she went to a better place. Im not trying to proselytise but having God in my life really helped with the whole thing..

my prayers are with you.

rose
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Omg That's awful. I do not that a lot of older people get stubborn with age. I also know that a lot of them just blindly trust doctors, are afraid to ask questions, etc.

I'm sorry for your loss. hugs



I just feel like my dad has given up on the fight. When I talk to him, he is extremely out of it most of the time. I think it's because he's so weak.

My mom called this morning to tell me that she called an ambulance again. She found him in their garage this morning (which is off limits to him because there's too much stuff he could fall on and get hurt). We don't know if he consciously went in there or if he was hallucinating (which his Parkinson's meds cause). His walker was by the door, so I'm thinking he was aware of what he was doing. It's all just a big mess.

Thank you for the prayers. I do believe in God and I pray, but the stress is pretty much unbearable.
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that's completely heartbreaking. My mom didn't want to use conventional methods for her cancer, nor are the doctors allowed to recommend natural solutions to diseases. I find the whole thing frustrating. Perhaps there is a better alternative that wouldn't make ur dad hallucinate but they are not allowed to speak of it becasuse of $$$.

Stay strong. Even though there are terrible things in the world God will redeem the world. And im not trying to tell u what to do, but don't forget to take care of yourself!! ur probably getting phone calls like that at work and its probably really hard.... but u gotta remember don't be to hard on yourself, get rest and eat well.......



He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it."

Isaiah 25:8, KJV


"For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Revelation 7:17, KJV




"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 21:4, KJV



rose
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It really is too bad that doctors don't try a natural route first. You pretty much have to take that into your own hands. After the brain surgery, his meds should be decreased. He shouldn't be on as many as he is now, but we have so many battles going on, it's hard to fight them all at the same time.

Thank you for the kind words. :) I have been rejuvenated tonight because I called my dad and he was eating...and he sounded like my old dad for a few minutes.
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Honor thy father and mother that thy days may be long on the Earth.

5th commandment. And comes with a promise for longevity if you abide by this

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Cutting my time short in this godforsaken hellhole in exchange for telling off my backstabbing, self-righteous father sounds like a good deal to me...
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I wish I had the chance to travel to Hawaii with my son and father. Kids hit out of frustration in communication. You're lucky to have a dad who wants to be involved. Did showing your child and father who is boss make you feel better?
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kids hit out of frustration....in communication ?
IF you permit your child to slap you around under any circumstances, you are truly a fool.
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Are you a parent?
Y3s, kids hit, they shit their pants and can't spell too.
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Hey op
In pre snowflake days
It was "their"
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Get off my lawn.
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Anyone who does not know the difference between their and their is an ignorant pos and whatever you problem with your dad I would wager that it is your fault, since objectively you are an ignorant twat.

Im no young kid im 37 year old man, i love respect my father but, am very much tired of his shit.
Bringing up old shit just to prove a point ect...
im one to forget about bullshit and move on.



My kid smacked me in the face on vacation in Hawaii so in return i man handled him made him cry, and then later told him why i did that. But I didn’t apologize to my son ( no reason).

My father had the audacity to bring that up like I did something wrong (btw I brought him with us)im a weekend dad.

My got the shit kicked out of me on a regular basis by the old man, on the phone tonight when he brought all this up, i had to tell him to shut the fuck up and dont talk about my son.
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Sadly, my father abandoned his family long ago for a big giant fatty, because she made good money. Poor fucker, what a pathetic way to go. I do still wonder if he tells people he had kids. My older brother went the same way, turned his back on me and our mother, who definitely did nothing. He just compared her to his mother-in-law and decided he was embarrassed of his family and where he came from. I imagine he feels like a giant turd inside. It took me half my life to figure out what a real father instills in his kids, better late than never. Now I know, family is the most important thing in this world, and with that being said I would accept them back into my life and family but they would have a lot of work to do to gain my trust. I'm not holding my breath on that one though. As has been said, fuck fake family.
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Im no young kid im 37 year old man, i love respect my father but, am very much tired of his shit.
Bringing up old shit just to prove a point ect...
im one to forget about bullshit and move on.



My kid smacked me in the face on vacation in Hawaii so in return i man handled him made him cry, and then later told him why i did that. But I didn’t apologize to my son ( no reason).

My father had the audacity to bring that up like I did something wrong (btw I brought him with us)im a weekend dad.

My got the shit kicked out of me on a regular basis by the old man, on the phone tonight when he brought all this up, i had to tell him to shut the fuck up and dont talk about my son.
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Let it go, man. He is your father. Half of you came from his dick. My Dad and I had words then a falling out. We did not speak for years. I missed my Dad so one day I said fuck it and called. We became friends again and hung out but about a year later he died of cancer.

I wish I had the years back. Parents forget what it was like having kids. They want to keep giving advice and don't realize they crossed a line. Let it go. Change the subject. You can't tell your Dad to fuck off. That is missed up.
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could be as simple as your father being tired of whatever condition/illness he has.
you have nothing to fear or be frustrated about.
this doesn't mean he doesn't love his family--somethings as in a severe chronic illness it becomes exhausting ,endless and a person gets tired of fighting IT.
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now OP and his kid who raised a hand to him and was disciplined ? LOL and his father didn't approve of the discipline applied ? LOL
i'd send the kid over to pop pop permanently.
that is a line that is never to be crossed.
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I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
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Hes is shock? Stop beating him up with your emotional.shi* or he will die of misery?? Its NOT about YOU for God's sake?

If its even true and you want to explore comfort options you can send me an email address but you are making your wish for him most important. Think about that? Stop badgering and just say you are sorry, you just dont want him to go and you are a wreck because you feel like you are letting him down and failing to help him.

Hes got news that can set them back, make them sick? Take gentle care of him and give him a few days.

Sometimes they do die to escape their relatives because they are exhausted trying to please people. Quit...being mean to him emotionally because hes depressed and not doing what you want.

Remedies abound but you have become wrecked yourself and need to find you a little spot of some grace and rest it all a minute. I did not read all this? But if i have any ideas that will help i will help? But i cant answer pms and the chomos of deathrael hide my email from members so you will not have help. But most all gays are broken, shi**y and mean....now add tribe...but get some air, take a breath and get a good sleep in if nothing else.

Its very hard. Lets see if your efforts so far can pan out better? Best to you
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My best friend of 37 years is starving himself to death.
I resolved to let him die how and when he wants.
Its not my wish for him

He's been my real life angel. Honestly hes saved me at least 100 times

Hes the closest to a husband ive had

I feel selfish wanting him to live in pain just so i dont have to face this world alone
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Cannabis. Get lots and give him a joint.
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I wish I had the chance to travel to Hawaii with my son and father. Kids hit out of frustration in communication. You're lucky to have a dad who wants to be involved. Did showing your child and father who is boss make you feel better?
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kids hit out of frustration....in communication ?
IF you permit your child to slap you around under any circumstances, you are truly a fool.
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Are you a parent?
Y3s, kids hit, they shit their pants and can't spell too.
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you raise your children correctly, definitely they are never to hit their parents.
you do not make excuses for them hitting you at any age and are taught this from an early age,age appropriate.

as for talking back ,arguing ?
that's another distinct no.
You quietly excuse yourself and either leave as in going home or leave the room.

so,to the permissive fools,what happens when your kid throws a punch at their teacher,law enforcement,anyone that aggravated them ?
surprise !

and yeah, I am a parent and there are a multitude raising their children to show respect.
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has anyone else got to a point where they want to tell there
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Where?
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some times you gotta put people in there
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Where?
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I know, but he can't give up. I was an appointment with him a week ago, and we got very disheartening news. It knocked my entire family down, BUT, I still believe we can get him at least a tiny bit of quality of life back.

I flat out asked him today if he wanted to die, if that's why he keeps losing weight. He said "Well when I feel like this..." I'm just scared, and I don't know what to do. I don't want him to give up.
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My dad was ready to go. He was bedridden, and didn't even have the strength to use the bathroom. They had people coming in every day to change his diaper and clean him up.

He couldn't eat, and was living on V8 juice and Orange Crush. Sometimes, it is just time.
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That gave me chills i am so sorry if i ever get like that put a fucking bullet in me honest to jesus
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My mom told me he had asked her several times 'Why can't I just die?'

As I stated earlier, my dad and I were not close. But I am with you, I don't want to end up in that situation.

I have told my wife that if I ever get in that condition, just put a bullet in me and throw me on the burn pile.
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Do it yourself.
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Yep, he never bothered me again about stupid shit.





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