Pre-Columbian Explorers in the Americas: The Hard Evidence

yes. and that happens. lots of people lay claim later to be exposed as hoaxes.

Coal Bell is an interesting claim that hasn't been explained yet. But the monks would smuggle using coal, no one would check their cargo as deeply to dig into the coal. And if the monk felt threatened he would make a fire and the artifact was lost forever. Again, it was illegal back them to possess artifacts, people would be killed for witchcraft, paganism or treason.

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of course Piri Reis map is another example of our most learned men having no understanding of it.

looks like the CUP OF GODS WRATH...every empire will have the chance to rule the earth...and all will utterly fail..the more power each empire gets the more corrupt they will be...none will be allowed to be as GOD..and it is shown when each empire exercises their free will...they will all come up short

Probably, but look at the logistics.

Egypt, ships out of Mediterranean Sea, into the Atlantic and across the ocean? Not likely.

There were "silk routes" that went north and the Vikings did tons of trading even before the "Viking Age" 1300's.

So yes, those coins could have very well made it to Maine, which was near Vinland Colony in North America.

So fascinating, great thread Lance.

ok, now that happened for sure.

can you tell us Chip what you think about the age of discovery? I understand the age of columbus and the old ships they did it with..one thing for sure is you would not find me on one of their old time ships and joined with them..I would have stayed in spain and told the ADIOS

HAHAHAHAH.
Suggesting Muslims founded America.

True Cartographers made some outstanding maps back in the day. Many from word of mouth and Captain's notebooks, not from actually being there. Just like one would hire a graphic artist today to do the drawing.

Ancient maritime is soooo freeking cool.

I would never step on one of their ships for destination unknown..I would have preferred stay on land and be safe

have you ever heard of Mercator?

space satellites proved the old time map makers were almost perfect...outstanding and almost unbelievable..the old timers were very smart people

Inspiration for the Discovery of the Americas was the War of the Roses. Basic History:

Rome, red rose, Catholic, Pope to be the sole Leader of the New World.

England, Church of England, white rose, King of England to be the Leader.

English made it to Virginia.
Spanish (Catholics for the Pope, Isabelle and Ferdinan) made it to Florida. Most of them died in the conditions.

Eventually the English fought the Spanish for Government Rule of the Americas and the English won, Declaration of Independence established. Spanish took South America as second place, by that time the Pope was dethroned.

Chip told me all that.

you do realize the maps we see of the world today are drawn according to sailing wishes..the real map of the world is different from the sailors wishes

The question of blue water ships is already in my original link. For those who do not sail...blue water worthy boats pretty much means you can embark across any body of water. The Chinese did it in huge Junks back in the 900's on.

The Viking ships were amazing. They would drag logs from the Americas to build structures and ships in Greenland were there were no trees. The capacity of those ships were bigger than we imagine.

chip just answered and brought up the red haired mummy giants..this suggest history way before columbus for those who care

Why do all of you refuse to believe the Romans made it to the America’s? Your brains cannot handle the realization that you were fed lies your whole life by the establishment?

why drag trees from the americas to build in iceland or greenland..it would be easier to live in the americas and build where the trees were at

It predates islam....

I believe it is possible Egyptians or Romans at some time sailed into America's..nobody here has said it was not possible

did not Solomon hire Phoenicians to sail counter clockwise around Africa..it might have been dangerous thing to do, but it appears that some of our ancestors were not afraid of anything..I admire them

And the very simple idea that no one could trust Roman coins.. [link to history.econtrader.com] Hence...melt value was more important. The Vikings used many coins... [link to www.viking.no] But their main 'money' was cattle and jewelry.

Hence their Rune 'Fehu'. [link to www.therunesite.com] Everyone wasn't stupid enough to be unaware of Romes version of QE....SO any Roman coin would be suspect. Most of the Romans like most people now had no clue about economics.

Modern day Islam will claim an Arab (Muslim) discovered America, they already have. Ahmed Muhiddin Piri (Piri Reis) was an Ottoman admiral. (Muslim).

They did build ships in the Americas also. But their base was Greenland where they needed the lumber.
They didn't travel in a pack all the time, they had ports all over, Vinland, Greenland, Iceland, Norway, Netherlands, Ireland.
No trees in Greenland, which is a stop over. Just pointing out the great capacity of their shiploads back then. They weren't rinky dink.

Rome ended in 476 AD.

So you're suggesting that shiploads of Romans sailed to the Americas in 400 AD? For what? They had everything in Rome, what were they seeking?

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Right Up Your Alley, OP

There was a sunken Roman ship found off the coast of Brazil. The Vikings didn’t sail it there...

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The Migration Period 375-538 AD
Decline of the Roman Empire would have spread Roman coins all over Europe and into England even.

Maybe some Roman hopped on a raft and made it to Maine. (not likely because they were being killed and driven back by the Huns and Germanic tribes.

So more likely that the coins made it, the Romans didn't.

Trade...if King Tut had cocaine and tobacco...who knows what they were trading for. Maybe they liked tequila....what is the world built on today? God...Gold, Oil and Drugs.

Still doesn't prove Romans were on that ship. Nor does a coin in Maine. Ship could have been in tow. Is there more to the story?