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I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?

 
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Trust me, if you start a thread titled this way, you accept all shilling and punitive retribution for sharing such personal and discreet information.


So with that I ask. Is there a way to "learn" the social customs so I dont stand out as much? If it's something concrete and non-contraditory I'm okay. Even with some conflicting data I can usually rationalize a solid placeholder which can serve as a template to build off in the future.


Does anyone else have this problem? It's a case that I can't stay silent as that's interpreted negatively. Then when I do choose to communicate it seems I'm always misinterpreted. Or just "too extra". Or is everyone else an organic portal thinking in 2D? That's not a fair assumption as I'd be incredibly biased having only one mind to compare with.


Help!
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


Just watch others conversing and memorize their lines and their situation, Most conversations are small talk and majority of them are all similiar so know one would know youre using a different part of your brain
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Right. But sometimes it's clear they can in fact tell, and then it's a downward spiral of feedback loops of misunderstanding.


To make matters worse my first language was Italian and I'm a 30 yr old white American Male. It's nearly hopeless.
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12 seconds of eye contact for a conversation that lasts between 3-25 min seems fair.
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This is going to sound asinine but I'll suggest you try and track down a copy of an old Peter Sellers movie titled "Being There".

It's a comedy, of course, but the focus is on how an intellectually challenged soul comes to be perceived as above average intellectually.

Contains a few useful tips, candidly, about how to be perceived as being socially adept.

I know that others will suggest I'm trolling with this suggestion. I'm not.
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This is going to sound asinine but I'll suggest you try and track down a copy of an old Peter Sellers movie titled "Being There".

It's a comedy, of course, but the focus is on how an intellectually challenged soul comes to be perceived as above average intellectually.

Contains a few useful tips, candidly, about how to be perceived as being socially adept.

I know that others will suggest I'm trolling with this suggestion. I'm not.
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Reminds me of people learning English by watching Saturday night live. I will give it a shot, Sellers is a wise soul.
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Trust me, if you start a thread titled this way, you accept all shilling and punitive retribution for sharing such personal and discreet information.


So with that I ask. Is there a way to "learn" the social customs so I dont stand out as much? If it's something concrete and non-contraditory I'm okay. Even with some conflicting data I can usually rationalize a solid placeholder which can serve as a template to build off in the future.


Does anyone else have this problem? It's a case that I can't stay silent as that's interpreted negatively. Then when I do choose to communicate it seems I'm always misinterpreted. Or just "too extra". Or is everyone else an organic portal thinking in 2D? That's not a fair assumption as I'd be incredibly biased having only one mind to compare with.


Help!
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


Observe , take notes, obsessively repeat and finally mimic and pretend to be human. It's worked well for my nephew, most people don't know he is a soulless monster by just talking to him.
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
This is going to sound asinine but I'll suggest you try and track down a copy of an old Peter Sellers movie titled "Being There".

It's a comedy, of course, but the focus is on how an intellectually challenged soul comes to be perceived as above average intellectually.

Contains a few useful tips, candidly, about how to be perceived as being socially adept.

I know that others will suggest I'm trolling with this suggestion. I'm not.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Reminds me of people learning English by watching Saturday night live. I will give it a shot, Sellers is a wise soul.
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


O shit I've seen this movie when I was 14! Damn, inward existential realizations....
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Being a soulless monster is like being spiderman and Godzilla. Last giant lizard of your kind, and with all that power, you really have to be responsible and think everything thru.


Plus all of Tokyo wants to see you dead, and I'm fucking certain that's the case with me.
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12 seconds of eye contact for a conversation that lasts between 3-25 min seems fair.
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Well played. Maximum 12 seconds at a time. Then look at someone else, look to the side, look down, now bring your gaze back to the person you're trying to communicate with.

In face to face communication over half the "meaning" people take away comes from your nonverbal behavior. Another 38 percent comes from your "tone" which includes which words are emphasized, how fast or slowly you speak, and how loudly or softly you speak. Less than 10 percent of average communication's meaning comes from the words you choose. You can "mess" with that by choosing deliberately inappropriate or inflammatory vocabulary.

On the telephone about 80% of meaning derives from tone.

Little wonder that the written word, when used for other than transmission of factual information, is fraught with peril.
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan

The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan
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Being a soulless monster is like being spiderman and Godzilla. Last giant lizard of your kind, and with all that power, you really have to be responsible and think everything thru.


Plus all of Tokyo wants to see you dead, and I'm fucking certain that's the case with me.
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


He was in the army and now we assume works for one of those intelligent assume , its probably the best place he could be with that level of dedication to Godzilla. Damn you with all this Godzilla talk now I want sashimi and sushi!
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Trust me, if you start a thread titled this way, you accept all shilling and punitive retribution for sharing such personal and discreet information.


So with that I ask. Is there a way to "learn" the social customs so I dont stand out as much? If it's something concrete and non-contraditory I'm okay. Even with some conflicting data I can usually rationalize a solid placeholder which can serve as a template to build off in the future.


Does anyone else have this problem? It's a case that I can't stay silent as that's interpreted negatively. Then when I do choose to communicate it seems I'm always misinterpreted. Or just "too extra". Or is everyone else an organic portal thinking in 2D? That's not a fair assumption as I'd be incredibly biased having only one mind to compare with.


Help!
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


Take more time to listen to others.

Let your developing social reputation lie within, “He/She knows when to keep his/her mouth shut.”

Become the “go to” person about the subjects you sperg over.

I don’t appreciate your method of address.
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Read some books on folklore and anthropology field methods.

Smile, listen attentively, don't talk much then everyone thinks you are wise.
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Find assburger girl and y’all stay home and play video games mmorpgs.

Fuck social norms.
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Read this

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Not just for teens.

5 aspie stars for you brother
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
Drama/Acting lessons help a lot in....
movement, body placement, remembering lines and how to begin and end a conversation.
How to breathe, articulate etc....

So many skills can learned that can help Autists in how to present themselves, listen actively, how to stand etc,
It seems the secret is learning by repetition....which is really what Drama class is all about.
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
12 seconds of eye contact for a conversation that lasts between 3-25 min seems fair.
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


Well played. Maximum 12 seconds at a time. Then look at someone else, look to the side, look down, now bring your gaze back to the person you're trying to communicate with.

In face to face communication over half the "meaning" people take away comes from your nonverbal behavior. Another 38 percent comes from your "tone" which includes which words are emphasized, how fast or slowly you speak, and how loudly or softly you speak. Less than 10 percent of average communication's meaning comes from the words you choose. You can "mess" with that by choosing deliberately inappropriate or inflammatory vocabulary.

On the telephone about 80% of meaning derives from tone.

Little wonder that the written word, when used for other than transmission of factual information, is fraught with peril.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


this is very useful, seriously thank you
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Just kill yourself now?
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lol dont gimme any bright ideas
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
Drama/Acting lessons help a lot in....
movement, body placement, remembering lines and how to begin and end a conversation.
How to breathe, articulate etc....

So many skills can learned that can help Autists in how to present themselves, listen actively, how to stand etc,
It seems the secret is learning by repetition....which is really what Drama class is all about.
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considered this before thank you, aussie. even if one didnt want to be an actor, they could still asses the classes.


kind of like studying NLP which ive done and the same reason, its useful.... not trying to get into the espionage business.
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Read this

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

Not just for teens.

5 aspie stars for you brother
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searching the world wide web for a pdf of this to distribute.


edit- found 'er

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Isn't there a club for your types?
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
Read this

[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]

Not just for teens.

5 aspie stars for you brother
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searching the world wide web for a pdf of this to distribute.


edit- found 'er

[link to rotozeev.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


FUCKIN-A BUDDY! THIS BOOK KICKS IT!
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
Many times I have been cited as having ass-burgers, although I was never tested, I have all the signs.

So the key to your question, is actually a great fit for the condition. Acting, Matrix style. Download a persona, put on the mask, and become the social rock star for whatever situation you need.

And then when you are finished, shut down the program, put your real mask on. But that doesn't matter anyway, does it? I'm nobody, are you nobody, too?
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Isn't there a club for your types?
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yep i think its called "The Masonic Lodge" but I'm not social enough to show up.
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Re: I got ass-bergers. How can I use my incredible brain to learn social customs of humans?
Many times I have been cited as having ass-burgers, although I was never tested, I have all the signs.

So the key to your question, is actually a great fit for the condition. Acting, Matrix style. Download a persona, put on the mask, and become the social rock star for whatever situation you need.

And then when you are finished, shut down the program, put your real mask on. But that doesn't matter anyway, does it? I'm nobody, are you nobody, too?
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love you so much for that comment.
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If youre being serious...just sit at a table with a group of people, turn off your thoughts, and mindfully observe the conversation. You dont even have to contribute much. Your brain will absorb their mannerisms gradually over time, particularly if you stimulate positive feelings from the experience.
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so true that practice makes perfect but the ebbs and flows in life sometimes i got a long time without fostering social groups or "friends" to study
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Isn't there a club for your types?
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yep i think its called "The Masonic Lodge" but I'm not social enough to show up.
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Not promoting alcoholism but maybe have some wine to loosen up a bit.
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everyone wants something from you it seems. well i can offer comraderie but in return i ask that people humor me in real life so i can get to the bottom of these quandaries
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Isn't there a club for your types?
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yep i think its called "The Masonic Lodge" but I'm not social enough to show up.
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


Not promoting alcoholism but maybe have some wine to loosen up a bit.
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trust me, i have my vodka5 days. this is one of em. still thinking rationally.
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Isn't there a club for your types?
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yep i think its called "The Masonic Lodge" but I'm not social enough to show up.
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Not promoting alcoholism but maybe have some wine to loosen up a bit.
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trust me, i have my vodka5 days. this is one of em. still thinking rationally.
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dicaprio-agree
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feel like this was worth the effort. thanks so much for the replies and stuff to research.


the aspie kids book is proving to be an invaluable asset, i will read it to completion tonight.
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I can't help you on this. Humans are too complicated for me to understand. I think you're supposed to look them in the eye and have a firm handshake.
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


Hands-shaking yes I am hip. What percent of the time/how much attention do you spend on the eye contact?
 Quoting: Plato2theGrave


Less than 12 seconds at a time to be precise. Unless you're moving your point of focus within that time frame you'll go from "glancing" or "looking" or "making eye contact" to a stare, you'll lose focus and come across, unintentionally, as a creep.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


so tricky, the line between not paying any attention whatsoever, and totally up in your shit. constant adjustments always needed.





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