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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust me, if you start a thread titled this way, you accept all shilling and punitive retribution for sharing such personal and discreet information. Quoting: Plato2theGrave So with that I ask. Is there a way to "learn" the social customs so I dont stand out as much? If it's something concrete and non-contraditory I'm okay. Even with some conflicting data I can usually rationalize a solid placeholder which can serve as a template to build off in the future. Does anyone else have this problem? It's a case that I can't stay silent as that's interpreted negatively. Then when I do choose to communicate it seems I'm always misinterpreted. Or just "too extra". Or is everyone else an organic portal thinking in 2D? That's not a fair assumption as I'd be incredibly biased having only one mind to compare with. Help! Just watch others conversing and memorize their lines and their situation, Most conversations are small talk and majority of them are all similiar so know one would know youre using a different part of your brain Right. But sometimes it's clear they can in fact tell, and then it's a downward spiral of feedback loops of misunderstanding. To make matters worse my first language was Italian and I'm a 30 yr old white American Male. It's nearly hopeless. |
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Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 08/20/2019 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is going to sound asinine but I'll suggest you try and track down a copy of an old Peter Sellers movie titled "Being There". It's a comedy, of course, but the focus is on how an intellectually challenged soul comes to be perceived as above average intellectually. Contains a few useful tips, candidly, about how to be perceived as being socially adept. I know that others will suggest I'm trolling with this suggestion. I'm not. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is going to sound asinine but I'll suggest you try and track down a copy of an old Peter Sellers movie titled "Being There". Quoting: Larry D. Croc It's a comedy, of course, but the focus is on how an intellectually challenged soul comes to be perceived as above average intellectually. Contains a few useful tips, candidly, about how to be perceived as being socially adept. I know that others will suggest I'm trolling with this suggestion. I'm not. Reminds me of people learning English by watching Saturday night live. I will give it a shot, Sellers is a wise soul. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77778757 United States 08/20/2019 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust me, if you start a thread titled this way, you accept all shilling and punitive retribution for sharing such personal and discreet information. Quoting: Plato2theGrave So with that I ask. Is there a way to "learn" the social customs so I dont stand out as much? If it's something concrete and non-contraditory I'm okay. Even with some conflicting data I can usually rationalize a solid placeholder which can serve as a template to build off in the future. Does anyone else have this problem? It's a case that I can't stay silent as that's interpreted negatively. Then when I do choose to communicate it seems I'm always misinterpreted. Or just "too extra". Or is everyone else an organic portal thinking in 2D? That's not a fair assumption as I'd be incredibly biased having only one mind to compare with. Help! Observe , take notes, obsessively repeat and finally mimic and pretend to be human. It's worked well for my nephew, most people don't know he is a soulless monster by just talking to him. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is going to sound asinine but I'll suggest you try and track down a copy of an old Peter Sellers movie titled "Being There". Quoting: Larry D. Croc It's a comedy, of course, but the focus is on how an intellectually challenged soul comes to be perceived as above average intellectually. Contains a few useful tips, candidly, about how to be perceived as being socially adept. I know that others will suggest I'm trolling with this suggestion. I'm not. Reminds me of people learning English by watching Saturday night live. I will give it a shot, Sellers is a wise soul. O shit I've seen this movie when I was 14! Damn, inward existential realizations.... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a soulless monster is like being spiderman and Godzilla. Last giant lizard of your kind, and with all that power, you really have to be responsible and think everything thru. Plus all of Tokyo wants to see you dead, and I'm fucking certain that's the case with me. |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 08/20/2019 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 seconds of eye contact for a conversation that lasts between 3-25 min seems fair. Quoting: Plato2theGrave Well played. Maximum 12 seconds at a time. Then look at someone else, look to the side, look down, now bring your gaze back to the person you're trying to communicate with. In face to face communication over half the "meaning" people take away comes from your nonverbal behavior. Another 38 percent comes from your "tone" which includes which words are emphasized, how fast or slowly you speak, and how loudly or softly you speak. Less than 10 percent of average communication's meaning comes from the words you choose. You can "mess" with that by choosing deliberately inappropriate or inflammatory vocabulary. On the telephone about 80% of meaning derives from tone. Little wonder that the written word, when used for other than transmission of factual information, is fraught with peril. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77778757 United States 08/20/2019 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a soulless monster is like being spiderman and Godzilla. Last giant lizard of your kind, and with all that power, you really have to be responsible and think everything thru. Quoting: Plato2theGrave Plus all of Tokyo wants to see you dead, and I'm fucking certain that's the case with me. He was in the army and now we assume works for one of those intelligent assume , its probably the best place he could be with that level of dedication to Godzilla. Damn you with all this Godzilla talk now I want sashimi and sushi! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76530791 United States 08/20/2019 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Trust me, if you start a thread titled this way, you accept all shilling and punitive retribution for sharing such personal and discreet information. Quoting: Plato2theGrave So with that I ask. Is there a way to "learn" the social customs so I dont stand out as much? If it's something concrete and non-contraditory I'm okay. Even with some conflicting data I can usually rationalize a solid placeholder which can serve as a template to build off in the future. Does anyone else have this problem? It's a case that I can't stay silent as that's interpreted negatively. Then when I do choose to communicate it seems I'm always misinterpreted. Or just "too extra". Or is everyone else an organic portal thinking in 2D? That's not a fair assumption as I'd be incredibly biased having only one mind to compare with. Help! Take more time to listen to others. Let your developing social reputation lie within, “He/She knows when to keep his/her mouth shut.” Become the “go to” person about the subjects you sperg over. I don’t appreciate your method of address. |
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Deplorable Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States 08/20/2019 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Find assburger girl and y’all stay home and play video games mmorpgs. Fuck social norms. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77651564 Australia 08/20/2019 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drama/Acting lessons help a lot in.... movement, body placement, remembering lines and how to begin and end a conversation. How to breathe, articulate etc.... So many skills can learned that can help Autists in how to present themselves, listen actively, how to stand etc, It seems the secret is learning by repetition....which is really what Drama class is all about. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12 seconds of eye contact for a conversation that lasts between 3-25 min seems fair. Quoting: Plato2theGrave Well played. Maximum 12 seconds at a time. Then look at someone else, look to the side, look down, now bring your gaze back to the person you're trying to communicate with. In face to face communication over half the "meaning" people take away comes from your nonverbal behavior. Another 38 percent comes from your "tone" which includes which words are emphasized, how fast or slowly you speak, and how loudly or softly you speak. Less than 10 percent of average communication's meaning comes from the words you choose. You can "mess" with that by choosing deliberately inappropriate or inflammatory vocabulary. On the telephone about 80% of meaning derives from tone. Little wonder that the written word, when used for other than transmission of factual information, is fraught with peril. this is very useful, seriously thank you |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drama/Acting lessons help a lot in.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77651564 movement, body placement, remembering lines and how to begin and end a conversation. How to breathe, articulate etc.... So many skills can learned that can help Autists in how to present themselves, listen actively, how to stand etc, It seems the secret is learning by repetition....which is really what Drama class is all about. considered this before thank you, aussie. even if one didnt want to be an actor, they could still asses the classes. kind of like studying NLP which ive done and the same reason, its useful.... not trying to get into the espionage business. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | searching the world wide web for a pdf of this to distribute. edit- found 'er [link to rotozeev.net (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | searching the world wide web for a pdf of this to distribute. edit- found 'er [link to rotozeev.net (secure)] FUCKIN-A BUDDY! THIS BOOK KICKS IT! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54547252 United States 08/20/2019 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the key to your question, is actually a great fit for the condition. Acting, Matrix style. Download a persona, put on the mask, and become the social rock star for whatever situation you need. And then when you are finished, shut down the program, put your real mask on. But that doesn't matter anyway, does it? I'm nobody, are you nobody, too? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/20/2019 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many times I have been cited as having ass-burgers, although I was never tested, I have all the signs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54547252 So the key to your question, is actually a great fit for the condition. Acting, Matrix style. Download a persona, put on the mask, and become the social rock star for whatever situation you need. And then when you are finished, shut down the program, put your real mask on. But that doesn't matter anyway, does it? I'm nobody, are you nobody, too? love you so much for that comment. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/21/2019 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If youre being serious...just sit at a table with a group of people, turn off your thoughts, and mindfully observe the conversation. You dont even have to contribute much. Your brain will absorb their mannerisms gradually over time, particularly if you stimulate positive feelings from the experience. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69697180 so true that practice makes perfect but the ebbs and flows in life sometimes i got a long time without fostering social groups or "friends" to study |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77938197 United States 08/21/2019 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yep i think its called "The Masonic Lodge" but I'm not social enough to show up. Not promoting alcoholism but maybe have some wine to loosen up a bit. trust me, i have my days. this is one of em. still thinking rationally. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77134059 United States 08/21/2019 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't help you on this. Humans are too complicated for me to understand. I think you're supposed to look them in the eye and have a firm handshake. Quoting: Pilgrim001 Hands-shaking yes I am hip. What percent of the time/how much attention do you spend on the eye contact? Less than 12 seconds at a time to be precise. Unless you're moving your point of focus within that time frame you'll go from "glancing" or "looking" or "making eye contact" to a stare, you'll lose focus and come across, unintentionally, as a creep. so tricky, the line between not paying any attention whatsoever, and totally up in your shit. constant adjustments always needed. |