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mathetes
User ID: 265588 United States 07/16/2007 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm hungry all of the sudden! Seriously Red I'm even sick of Bush for a diff. reason, all the hate from the left,but the same thing happened when Clinton was in power and all the far Right crowd was spouting hate For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
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Redheaded Stepchild
(OP) User ID: 260497 United States 07/16/2007 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does that apply to tomato and corn growers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 256229Don't be so impatient. All in due time. They will be next in line..."unauthorized vegetable grower" will likely be a new designation under the globalization of our food sources. "Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul. Silence is consent. |
mathetes
User ID: 265588 United States 07/16/2007 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is anyone listening to these fuckers anymore? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 191784I mean seriously. When barely 1/4 of the country supports the administration and his cronies, who is still listening? And only 23% support Congress For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Redheaded Stepchild
(OP) User ID: 260497 United States 07/16/2007 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm hungry all of the sudden! Seriously Red I'm even sick of Bush for a diff. reason, all the hate from the left,but the same thing happened when Clinton was in power and all the far Right crowd was spouting hate Quoting: mathetesI suspect that if people would attend to the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, they'd all end up meeting somewhere in the middle. Both the far left and the far right hate our Constitution and our Bill of Rights. "Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul. Silence is consent. |
Redheaded Stepchild
(OP) User ID: 260497 United States 07/16/2007 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean seriously. When barely 1/4 of the country supports the administration and his cronies, who is still listening? Quoting: mathetesAnd only 23% support Congress I thought it was only 14%. "Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul. Silence is consent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 267368 Ireland 07/16/2007 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next, they'll be warning that those who smoke marijuana are dangerous terrorists. Howz come nothing is ever mentioned about the opium crops raised in Afghanistan and brought to the US? Do the poor Arabs who grow the poppies somehow commondier a plane to get it over here? LOL! How about tons of cocaine from South America that is transported by planes with a wink and a nod from the top echelons of our gov't? The growing and harvesting of these plants is all controlled by the mob, and it's war on any who want to grow for their own use or to give/sell to others. Cocaine One: [link to madcowprod.com] . |
mathetes
User ID: 265588 United States 07/16/2007 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm hungry all of the sudden! Seriously Red I'm even sick of Bush for a diff. reason, all the hate from the left,but the same thing happened when Clinton was in power and all the far Right crowd was spouting hate Quoting: Redheaded StepchildI suspect that if people would attend to the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, they'd all end up meeting somewhere in the middle. Both the far left and the far right hate our Constitution and our Bill of Rights. I believe you are 100% right, its the common folk out in the hinderlands with the only common sense, but even with all the assaults on our freedoms it makes you appreciate our founding fathers and their genius For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74711 United States 07/16/2007 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hitler did exactly the same thing, got the powers granted first and then applied the labels to a broader and broader spectrum of people. We are watching a re-implementation of the power grab of the Third Reich, except this time they have the world's most formidable military and far better strategic placement of bases globally to support a world domination scheme. The use of the word terrorist and the production of the islamic terror threat have been part of a long and convoluted plan put in place during the Reagan years. It's no coincidence that the same people came into top positions of this current administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Libby, etc etc). Every day we get deeper in this pit that's being prepared for us. At this point they could throw the switch at any time, everything they need is already in place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4910 United States 07/16/2007 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next, they'll be warning that those who smoke marijuana are dangerous terrorists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 267368They've basically already said it. Something like if you buy drugs you are supporting terrorists. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4910 United States 07/16/2007 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real danger is that they have passed laws which give them extraordinary powers when the label of terrorist is applied. The warnings about how this could be abused were ignored by most people who said things like "I don't do anything wrong so I have nothing to worry about". Applying the terrorist label to anyone is quite simple and this is a perfect example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74711Hitler did exactly the same thing, got the powers granted first and then applied the labels to a broader and broader spectrum of people. We are watching a re-implementation of the power grab of the Third Reich, except this time they have the world's most formidable military and far better strategic placement of bases globally to support a world domination scheme. The use of the word terrorist and the production of the islamic terror threat have been part of a long and convoluted plan put in place during the Reagan years. It's no coincidence that the same people came into top positions of this current administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Libby, etc etc). Every day we get deeper in this pit that's being prepared for us. At this point they could throw the switch at any time, everything they need is already in place. You know, it's all so extremely fucking obvious. I'm just amazed that the majority of Americans don't see it. We must really be, on the whole, THAT stupid. No wonder they (TPTB) have the hubris they do. In the end, if we're too stupid to see this happening, we do deserve it. Excellent post, by the way. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 263111 United States 07/16/2007 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real danger is that they have passed laws which give them extraordinary powers when the label of terrorist is applied. The warnings about how this could be abused were ignored by most people who said things like "I don't do anything wrong so I have nothing to worry about". Applying the terrorist label to anyone is quite simple and this is a perfect example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74711Hitler did exactly the same thing, got the powers granted first and then applied the labels to a broader and broader spectrum of people. We are watching a re-implementation of the power grab of the Third Reich, except this time they have the world's most formidable military and far better strategic placement of bases globally to support a world domination scheme. The use of the word terrorist and the production of the islamic terror threat have been part of a long and convoluted plan put in place during the Reagan years. It's no coincidence that the same people came into top positions of this current administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Libby, etc etc). Every day we get deeper in this pit that's being prepared for us. At this point they could throw the switch at any time, everything they need is already in place. I couldn't agree with you more. The 'terrorist' moniker is a joke -- it's just a way for them to circumvent civil rights, and especially the Constitution. |
féru.
User ID: 267362 Mexico 07/16/2007 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | came to Mexico city.. maybe this same year small amout of mariguana will be legal here. Enki was the real engineer of the human race. He was the Sumerian god of science, engineering, magic, strategy, music, and lovemaking |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 171492 United States 07/16/2007 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the bio of this cocksucker: [link to www.whitehouse.gov] This fucking scumbag has never had a real job in his whole miserable life. What a total piece of shit! |
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Redheaded Stepchild
(OP) User ID: 267387 United States 07/16/2007 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real danger is that they have passed laws which give them extraordinary powers when the label of terrorist is applied. The warnings about how this could be abused were ignored by most people who said things like "I don't do anything wrong so I have nothing to worry about". Applying the terrorist label to anyone is quite simple and this is a perfect example. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74711Hitler did exactly the same thing, got the powers granted first and then applied the labels to a broader and broader spectrum of people. We are watching a re-implementation of the power grab of the Third Reich, except this time they have the world's most formidable military and far better strategic placement of bases globally to support a world domination scheme. The use of the word terrorist and the production of the islamic terror threat have been part of a long and convoluted plan put in place during the Reagan years. It's no coincidence that the same people came into top positions of this current administration (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Libby, etc etc). Every day we get deeper in this pit that's being prepared for us. At this point they could throw the switch at any time, everything they need is already in place. We are under a State of Emergency...and have been nearly constantly since FDR declared the "banking holiday" in 1933. I'm trying to remember, but I think the SoE was dropped for a couple of years in the 70s, and then picked up again. Under the State of Emergency, the president can issue EXECUTIVE ORDERS. These perpetual "states of emergency" are one of the reasons I believe we absolutely must return to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. [link to www.whitehouse.gov] Declaration of National Emergency by Reason Of Certain Terrorist Attacks By the President of the United States of America A Proclamation A national emergency exists by reason of the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center, New York, New York, and the Pentagon, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States. NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, I hereby declare that the national emergency has existed since September 11, 2001, and, pursuant to the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), I intend to utilize the following statutes: sections 123, 123a, 527, 2201(c), 12006, and 12302 of title 10, United States Code, and sections 331, 359, and 367 of title 14, United States Code. This proclamation immediately shall be published in the Federal Register or disseminated through the Emergency Federal Register, and transmitted to the Congress. This proclamation is not intended to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by a party against the United States, its agencies, its officers, or any person. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this fourteenth day of September, in the year of our Lord two thousand one, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and twenty-sixth. GEORGE W. BUSH # # # (Note the date of this article) [link to www.commondreams.org] Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by CNN Citing 'National Emergency', Bush Limits Pay Increases for Many Federal Workers by John King CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN) -- Citing the "national emergency" created by the September 11, 2001, attacks, President Bush Wednesday exercised his authority to limit the pay increase for many federal workers next January to 2 percent -- well below the 15 percent some employees would have been entitled to receive. ... (the rest of the article is worth a read, too. Cracks me up that he wanted to "stay on budget" in order to fight the war on terror) ************************************************************ [link to monkeyfist.com] This is a list of the statutes of the US Code Bush intended/intends to use in support of his declaration of a national emergency. ************************************************************ READ THIS ONE VERY CAREFULLY... [link to usinfo.state.gov] 11 March 2005 Bush Extends National Emergency with Respect to Iran Declaration maintains 10-year-old executive order in effect President Bush has extended the United States’ national emergency with respect to Iran because of that country’s continued support for terrorism, its efforts to undermine the Middle East peace process and its efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction. In a March 10 notice for publication in the Federal Register and an accompanying letter to Congress, Bush stated that Iran’s policies pose “an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States.” For this reason, he said, the national emergency declared by President Clinton in March 1995 must remain in force. The original declaration and subsequent executive orders provided for a tightening of U.S. sanctions on Iran. This declaration of emergency is distinct from the national emergency declared by President Carter in November 1979. That declaration remains in effect as well. According to the legislation governing executive declarations of national emergency, the declarations must be renewed annually, or else they are automatically terminated. Following are the texts of the White House’s notice and letter to Congress: (begin text) THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary (Montgomery, Alabama) March 10, 2005 NOTICE CONTINUATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT TO IRAN On March 15, 1995, by Executive Order 12957, the President declared a national emergency with respect to Iran pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701-1706) to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States constituted by the actions and policies of the Government of Iran, including its support for international terrorism, efforts to undermine the Middle East peace process, and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them. On May 6, 1995, the President issued Executive Order 12959 imposing more comprehensive sanctions to further respond to this threat, and on August 19, 1997, the President issued Executive Order 13059 consolidating and clarifying the previous orders. Because the actions and policies of the Government of Iran continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, the national emergency declared on March 15, 1995, must continue in effect beyond March 15, 2005. Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency with respect to Iran. Because the emergency declared by Executive Order 12957 constitutes an emergency separate from that declared on November 14, 1979, by Executive Order 12170, this renewal is distinct from the emergency renewal of November 2004. This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress. GEORGE W. BUSH THE WHITE HOUSE, March 10, 2005 THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary (Montgomery, Alabama) March 10, 2005 TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES: Section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)) provides for the automatic termination of a national emergency unless, prior to the anniversary date of its declaration, the President publishes in the Federal Register and transmits to the Congress a notice stating that the emergency is to continue in effect beyond the anniversary date. Consistent with this provision, I have sent the enclosed notice stating that the Iran emergency declared on March 15, 1995, is to continue in effect beyond March 15, 2005, to the Federal Register for publication. The most recent notice continuing this emergency was published in the Federal Register on March 12, 2004 (69 FR 12051). The crisis between the United States and Iran constituted by the actions and policies of the Government of Iran, including its support for international terrorism, efforts to undermine Middle East peace, and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction and the means to deliver them, that led to the declaration of a national emergency on March 15, 1995, has not been resolved. These actions and policies are contrary to the interests of the United States in the region and pose a continuing unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. For these reasons, I have determined that it is necessary to continue the national emergency declared with respect to Iran and maintain in force comprehensive sanctions against Iran to respond to this threat. GEORGE W. BUSH THE WHITE HOUSE, March 10, 2005. (end text) (Distributed by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: [link to usinfo.state.gov)] ************************************************************ READ THIS CAREFULLY...(oh, and there are links within the article itself that you might find interesting) [link to www.homelandstupidity.us] Bush extends national emergency by one year By Michael Hampton Posted: August 5, 2005 9:09 am You heard right. Not only are we in the midst of a national emergency, Bush has extended it. The national emergency isn’t what you might think, though. On August 17, 2001, consistent with the authority provided me under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 170l et seq.), I issued Executive Order 13222. In that order, I declared a national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States in light of the expiration of the Export Administration Act of 1979, as amended (50 U.S.C. App. 2401 et seq.). Because the Export Administration Act has not been renewed by the Congress, the national emergency declared on August 17, 2001, must continue in effect beyond August 17, 2005. Therefore, in accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13222. This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress. — George W. Bush, August 2, 2005. What in hell is he talking about? What national emergency was declared on August 17, 2001, and why didn’t we hear anything about it? Why does it need to continue? And what does encryption have to do with it? We have to backtrack to Executive Order 13222, and in there we find that the Export Administration Act of 1979 was allowed to expire by Congress. So elder Bush renewed it via national emergency fiat in 1991, Clinton renewed it as well, and now our current George Bush has renewed it yet again. Again, why? If Bush didn’t sign that “national emergency” paperwork, then the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security would lose some of its regulatory power. That’s because Congress never extended the Export Administration Act after it lapsed. — News.com Those are the people who regulate exports to foreign countries, including and especially encryption technology. Without the declaration of national emergency, people in Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba, and a few other places might be able to get hold of American encryption. Bruce Schneier, who invented the Blowfish encryption algorithm and literally wrote the book on encryption, Applied Cryptography, can’t even keep up with the encryption regulations anymore. Encryption is especially important for people living under oppressive government regimes, for it allows them to communicate without anyone learning the content of their communications. Attempting to suppress it just makes matters worse for people who would like to escape tyrannical regimes. The Internet has made this largely irrelevant; it’s fairly easy for someone to bypass the export regulations and lay hands on military grade American encryption. The Supreme Court has unfortunately upheld the use of national emergency to bypass the Constitution and institute regulations on Americans which would have been otherwise impossible. “Only an emergency can justify repression.” — Louis D. Brandeis "Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul. Silence is consent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 173402 United States 07/16/2007 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This business we intend to put into recession, depression and put its leaders into jail," Walters said. I interpret this to mean something along the lines of: "We will take all measures necessary to ensure that domestic production shall not interfere with our monopoly!" It's a drug war for sure, and this guy is on the side of the importers. |
Redheaded Stepchild
(OP) User ID: 267387 United States 07/16/2007 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This business we intend to put into recession, depression and put its leaders into jail," Walters said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 173402I interpret this to mean something along the lines of: "We will take all measures necessary to ensure that domestic production shall not interfere with our monopoly!" It's a drug war for sure, and this guy is on the side of the importers. I have long believed that one of the main reasons we went into Afghanistan was because the very strict Taliban had banned the growing of opium poppies and marijuana...and that ban interefered with the drug and money-laundering stream of the Bush Crime Family. "Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul. Silence is consent. |
askakido nli User ID: 255950 United States 07/16/2007 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People do not realize that this War Powers Act of 1933 decrees all U.S. Citizens to be enemies of the Federal Government during a time of National or Federal emergency. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 255950 United States 07/16/2007 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next, they'll be warning that those who smoke marijuana are dangerous terrorists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4910They've basically already said it. Something like if you buy drugs you are supporting terrorists. But now if you grow weed in your back yard for your own consumption you are a terrorist as well. |
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