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Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet

 
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This is how "diversity" ends up fucking you.
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I'd also blame it on equality of outcome policies, and the systematic generational dumbing down of the American people.
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Thanks for the pine, peeps.

A number of A380s are out of service. Airlines are keeping them in hangar for spares in case there's any occurrence, wheel carriages are the most valuable spares on A380s.

Emirates have a few out already. They will have them replaced with the new coming birds out of the production line by 2021. These will be the final A380s to be built.

Airbus will keep providing spares for clients they say for the life cycle of the purchased aircraft.

That remains to be seen and I am betting on inflated prices.

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Well then a high pressure vessel and some dirt should make you some oil and you could get rich.i grew up in the oil capital of america and worked workover rigs.the oil is running out.the stuff coming out of the hole these days is black vaseline,not oil.
Oil is created by ancient algae pools that are cracked under pressure and heat.this extracts the oil from the algae.
Ive already done the usgs report.we have until 2035,china has until 2025.
Usa will be 99% dry by 2050.
China will br 99% dry by 2035.
Wishful thinking aint gonna fill the gas tank and elon knows this.
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
another link

Door blows off Boeing 777X during stress test

A door blew off a Boeing 777X as the new plane was undergoing what was supposed to be its final structural inspection by federal regulators.

The test is meant to push the plane beyond its limits. Engineers had the plane pressurized and on the ground. They loaded it up well beyond capacity and bent its wings in an extreme manner, in a way almost certain to never happen in the real world.

As the ground test was underway and as engineers and FAA inspectors watched, a door blew off the plane.

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[link to komonews.com (secure)]

I wouldn't always trust journos on aviation related topics. Some times they are about sensationalism.
Sensationalism sells.

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Either a manufacturing of the parts problem ... or a more basic problem with the engineering of the load factors a carbon fiber part can withstand problem.

Either way BAD NEW for Boeing.

The door should NOT have blown out even if the plane was over pressurized, the over pressurization would still have been within the design limits of the parts and airframe.

If it is BAD PARTS ... what about all the other carbon fiber parts of the plane?

If it is BAD ENGINEERING ... what about the entire rest of the plane?

At a minimum this is going to delay certification by at least a year, and if they can't be sure they isolated the problem to just that part/structure and it could NEVER crop up in another part of the plane ... well re-engineering large sections of the plane, or totally changing the parts manufacturing process, may be required which could delay the plane's certification for 3 to 5 years.
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This is exactly what got McDonnell Douglas bought out...cept they never fixed the problem and crashed a few planes. One even sucked out a row of passengers before it crashed. I would guess Boing Boing will try to ignore it too and roll the dice. Fixing problems is expensive.
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JC everyone

the door didnt blow off a seal blew out, and for your information the body is made out of aluminum the same as the old model. the wings are the only section that is carbon fiber.
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Structural test failures are very common. The A380 had its shares of them.

Yet this will give a bad image of Boeing in the general public's eyes considering all the problems they are having with the B737MAX they did not need this.

Better it happens now though than later when the aircraft has entered commercial passenger service.

Many will lose their jobs on this one.

abduct
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
this 777x was the fatigue model also, the very first model that will ever fly, it was built to be destroyed.
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Structural test failures are very common. The A380 had its shares of them.

Yet this will give a bad image of Boeing in the general public's eyes considering all the problems they are having with the B737MAX they did not need this.

Better it happens now though than later when the aircraft has entered commercial passenger service.

Many will lose their jobs on this one.

abduct
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nobody is going to lose there jobs over this one, ask me how I know OH I work here.
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JC everyone

the door didnt blow off a seal blew out, and for your information the body is made out of aluminum the same as the old model. the wings are the only section that is carbon fiber.
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I am not denying your writing but... have you got a link on this with details from the constructor?

Thx.

abduct
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
Structural test failures are very common. The A380 had its shares of them.

Yet this will give a bad image of Boeing in the general public's eyes considering all the problems they are having with the B737MAX they did not need this.

Better it happens now though than later when the aircraft has entered commercial passenger service.

Many will lose their jobs on this one.

abduct
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


nobody is going to lose there jobs over this one, ask me how I know OH I work here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69321815


Excellent.

I inaugurated both 787-8 and 787-9 with the respective inaugural airlines.

I was in Seattle for the remittance of the first 787 to Japanese carrier ANA. I still have my "We Fly First" delivery scarf. A treasure.

abduct
I came. I saw. I Concorde.

For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.

"I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM."
Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
this 777x was the fatigue model also, the very first model that will ever fly, it was built to be destroyed.
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ZA001 the first B787-8 test machine is now displayed in all her glory at Nagoya Airport in a permanent exhibition.

Japan (ANA) was the first client of the B787-8.

The display is a tremendous success.

[link to flightofdreams.jp (secure)]

An absolute marvel of an exhibition!


hf
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"I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM."
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Truth,boeing is gonna go bankrupt.we run out of fuel in fifteen years unless we create an alternative and ge has turned into a thirdworld company with a first world look.ge has sooo much liabilty and deadweight retirees that its drowning in debt.stockholders in either company may as well consider those stocks being like 401ks.wishful thinking.
Boing should get the hell out of planes and start engineering blimps.giant zeppelin style blimps.
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...we are going to run out of fuel in 15 years....

Not this again. You already tried that one, like 40 years ago.
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When you look at the amount invested to return money and energy wise peak oil already happened.

Hell if it wasn't for ripping off investors and going bankrupt on debt the US oil companies would have called it quits years ago.
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That is just total fucking bullshit. We have so much cheap and easy oil and gas it is incalculable. I have oil wells in North Dakota that were put in place 12 years ago and are still going strong. Each of these oil wells can be refracked in different directions at the level they are now and in 30-50 years they can drop another few thousand feet down and do it all over again.

They (Enron oil and gas) recovered the entire installation cost in less than a year. Each installation can handle several wells - but all seven of ours only have one well hooked up to them so far. Some day, when they can find a way to transport more oil south or east - they will add more wells.
Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day.
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This is exactly what got McDonnell Douglas bought out...cept they never fixed the problem and crashed a few planes. One even sucked out a row of passengers before it crashed. I would guess Boing Boing will try to ignore it too and roll the dice. Fixing problems is expensive.
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MD had the best air frames in the industry. There aircraft were second to none.
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People who live couped up in cities cannot fathom how much volume and hence, how many resources this fucking planet has. If you don't know it's a mind boggling amount.
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People who live couped up in cities cannot fathom how much volume and hence, how many resources this fucking planet has. If you don't know it's a mind boggling amount.
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Another point of perspective, if all the people in the world were standing in close formation they would only take up the space of Los Angeles city limits. (~50sqmi).
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
Structural test failures are very common. The A380 had its shares of them.

Yet this will give a bad image of Boeing in the general public's eyes considering all the problems they are having with the B737MAX they did not need this.

Better it happens now though than later when the aircraft has entered commercial passenger service.

Many will lose their jobs on this one.

abduct
 Quoting: Concorde Warrior F-BVFA


nobody is going to lose there jobs over this one, ask me how I know OH I work here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69321815


Excellent.

I inaugurated both 787-8 and 787-9 with the respective inaugural airlines.

I was in Seattle for the remittance of the first 787 to Japanese carrier ANA. I still have my "We Fly First" delivery scarf. A treasure.

abduct
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Yes I was there but I was not in the 787 program I’ve been in the 777 program for 8 years.
So you should know the 777x that’s parked out back in the new fatige area is the one that had the failure.
That is the proto type model
So do you know the truth about the CWC
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Who the fuck turned this into a oil thread.

Earth makes its own oil
There wasn’t enough plant matter in the stone ages to even get close to how much oil we have.
Fossil fuels= fake news
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Bad karma for Boeing... or is it bad luck?

Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet

Boeing’s new widebody jet, the 777X, suffered a setback Thursday afternoon during a high-pressure stress test on the ground when one of the airplane’s cargo doors exploded outward.

One 777X employee working in a nearby bay at Boeing’s Everett plant said he heard “a loud boom and the ground shook.”

The accident happened to what’s called the “static test airplane,” one of the two airplanes in any new jet program that are built for ground testing only and will never fly. It was during the final test that must be passed as part of the airplane’s certification by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

The failure of the door will require careful analysis to find out why it happened, and it may mean Boeing will have to replace the door and repeat the test.

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wtf


Stress testing and pressure testing.

This is supposed to be the new Boeing lightweight all carbon fiber miracle long haul jet.

Can you imagine?
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Hey OP
there when some dipshit mechanic over pressurized a 787 wing?
Split the panels from the spar, that was loud.
He got fired for applying tape to a relief valve walking away probably to break and left the pressure building up.
A couple of folks ended up in the hospital.
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
JC everyone

the door didnt blow off a seal blew out, and for your information the body is made out of aluminum the same as the old model. the wings are the only section that is carbon fiber.
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I am not denying your writing but... have you got a link on this with details from the constructor?

Thx.

abduct
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Didn’t you say you worked here?

Go to Boeing’s website and see for yourself.
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Manufacturing in liberal shit hole cities is no different than manufacturing in China
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Maybe Boeing should have hired people who go poo in the loo.
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This is how "diversity" ends up fucking you.
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THIS IS WHY I COME TO GLP! FOR THOSE KICK ASS SNARKY REMARKS BY SMARTIE ASSHOLEShugs

My comment: Add to this affirmative action +Apu, and if they did not learn from the 737 MAX, Boeing will likely go bye bye. This type of failure does not happen when the design is done right. It is safe to say that if this happened, there is more wrong with this airframe than door problems. What's going to happen when it hits turbulence and all the passengers drink coffee off the ceiling, and then the carpet for 500 miles straight? The old planes could handle that and arrive totally unscathed, with injured passengers. If a blowout happened while it was just parked, regardless of conditions because being parked is IDEAL CONDITIONS, - if, despite being pushed to it's design max it blows out while parked, that spells doom, how reliable will it be after "coffee on the ceiling"? That's something Apu never thought of.

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Omg!
Engineers are sabotaging boeing!
Carbon fiber is stronger than steel!
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Do they weld it?
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They use Carbonated Calcium glue when assembling the parts.
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Just keep your seatbelt on you pussy.
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They are going to replace those doors. With a hatch. Hatches are much safer. Simple.
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Re: Door blows out during ground test on Boeing 777X jet
It's really hard to find a competent carpenter that knows
how to hang a door these days.

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Omg!
Engineers are sabotaging boeing!
Carbon fiber is stronger than steel!
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There are many different tiers of carbo fiber and steel. Not ALL carbon fiber is stronger than ALL steel in ALL conditions.
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The new jet engines are geared and use less fuel .
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Times change , one day you are the dog, the next day you are the fire hydrant that the dog relieves himself on..
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