Islamic indoctrination on Dutch schools

bump this solemn and important topic

wake up, Europe

Islam is right about woman.

I agree with this. People with the same cultural background or race in general flock together. Christians or whites do the same in countries where the majority is Muslim or colored. They also flock together in general. That has nothing to do with racism or whatever, it's just facts in human behavior, like in the animal kingdom.

Just look at the ghettos in all the major cities across Europe. They have turned into states within a state, where law enforcement hardly has any authority, whether it be colored ghettos or Muslim ghettos. It is not the silent Muslim majority that is causing the threat in these states within a state, but the dominant hate imams that can let their influence rule unpunished among the young crowd, most of them being unemployed and without any future at all.

That is why ISIS, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram and who ever else, can never be defeated military. Because it is an ideology, a doctrine, meanwhile rooted deep into our western civilization, in the ghettos, in the hearts and minds of a growing following. They don't seek multi culturism. They don't seek living together happily ever after. They seek dominance. One religion. Islam.

I am not saying there is nothing wrong within Christianity. Catholicism, Protestants, history has plenty examples of them seeking the same dominance. Genocide, heresy, abuse scandals. No religion is without violence. But there is no denying that in our present society there is only one religion that seeks dominance over every other religion and that is Islam.

There is this whole useless political discussion about whether countries should take back their "countrymen" who went to fight for ISIS, because it is their obligation as a country and it takes a high toll on the Middle East. Fuck that. They are NOT our countrymen. They voluntarily went to fight and were willing to die for their Caliphate, so let them rot over there, instead of posing a threat over here or costing us billions in keeping them in prisons.

Same with Israël and Palestinians. There will never be lasting peace in that part of the world. Children are brought up to hate the other, for centuries, millenniums. I've been there, seen it with my own eyes. Someone can live peacefully with their neighbor for decades, but if some Ayatollah says they need to kill their neighbor because he is from a different belief or party, most will follow in a heartbeat.

And I know, I might be generalizing too much maybe, but these religions just don't mingle as a whole. And that will never ever happen either. Despite the good will of those who do adapt on both ends. I am sure anyone of us knows many people they are friends with, who they work with or live next to, of who they don't even know that they are Muslim or Christian.

They are not the problem, it's the ideology and indoctrination that is the problem.

Kinda late for what?
Transforming all schools into
state/communist schools?

Or can the freedom of starting a school remain for Montessori,Jena or whatever decent school, yet not a state one, remain?

better late than never. i dont even believe this will happen. we all know how much back bone dutch politicians have.

Kinda late as in paying attention to what is taught on those schools. Innocent children taught to hate and practice violence against anyone that does not fit the teachers' beliefs.

If politics preach multi culture, why have separate schools under the umbrella of liberalism or freedom of choice with the risk of next generation division built from the core in society?

Call me old fashioned, but we need to get back to teaching as teaching was meant to be, not the liberal shitty way of nowadays. Bring authority back. Teach values instead of trying to be equals or friends. This way all we do is create degeneration, confusion, chaos.

And of course I know, we have drifted to far away to turn the ship, we are so consumed by and addicted to materialism and individualism, that economy has long overtaken family as the cornerstone of society. And meanwhile most of us are so much in debt, that we can't go back to a system based on core values in life, even if we would want to.

Last Edited by InterMezzo on 09/12/2019 04:43 PM

So while you state, that the certain things which are transpiring with in your are indeed being witnessed in many other countries. This isn't a mistake or that would be the most horrific coincidence in modern history. This is being perpetrated by very influential and powerful people, most know them as a group I'll not name. They aren't concerned with people's ancestral history because they can't see theirs as ever having any. I'm German and Norwegian, born in America, very proud of my heritage growing up. It's today being destroyed and shun as Privileged and entitlement from groups within this country. Never knowing the stife I had to endure for my education and learning. I think sometimes that my tenacity and strive in wanting to succeed comes from my heritage, it's inherently born into somes DNA. That we have a ability to cut through certain obstacles easier then maybe others might. I don't believe Islam is the problem as much as other people deciding for us what is best for us as a people, and trust me your Dutch people are not alone. I just think that these specific people want to collapse anything that's rightous and beautiful as a culture because they've never had one. Traditions from your past your mother or father taught you as a child. What's your social structure and beliefs, your idiology. It's why people are never going to be able to peacefully co-exist period. This country of mine has failed misserably in every social program to attempt and bring certain people to better living standards and for over fifty years it's only become the burden of the employed to keep others fed and clothed. Not one single thing is my fault because of others lack of education of willness to want to work. Something is being perpetrated against all people and it's not going to be good in the future. I would never go to a pet shop and let everything out of their cages at once, I believe it would be bloody.

The only thing I know about Dutch is they wear wooden shoes and have windmills. I really don't care if they are invaded by Muslims. Let them work it out.

ftfy

(I hope you don't mind, I put your reply in paragraphs for better reading.)

I agree wholeheartedly with you. In its'core it is not specifically Islam that is the problem. Of course there is a hidden political agenda to this. In my opinion it is the problem of ageing. I explained it in this thread:

Thread: Islamisation of Europe is proven by demographic numbers

It is a given that the native population of many Western countries is declining and being replaced by people from other continents. In itself you can not blame those who seek their fortune elsewhere. Not at all. Blame the decline of family being the cornerstone of society. Less native kids are born, people get older due to better health care. That puts pressure on the work force in the coming decades. It's all economics and politics. Create chaos and fear and you stay in power.

I was brought up with strict values in a family where my parents were parents. They taught me to have an open mind and treat others with respect. To not degrade or hate them for different opinions. To be someone who connects, not divides. They taught me to speak out, again with respect, but not live my life bent down for the benefit of someone else.

I am no saint when it comes to every day life. But in general I speak my mind based on facts, without judgement for the purpose of degrading others.

Yes and I agree I'm no saint either, your values are what your values are. It's the structure of your core beliefs that make you whom you are. Without that it's termoil. Many are not raised with many of any, and twisting their thinking is easier to accomplish. Your parents sound much like mine Don't focus anger on a group of people regardless of their religion, you become no better then them. Instead understand the true enemy of the people and try to educate yourself to the reasons why.
I'm sadend by the horrendous atrocities being perpetrated by others in the media within countries such as yours. Its desturbing and unfair.
I've always wanted to visit the Fatherland and see first hand where my assetrial people have come from. I'm pretty certain I won't because of the Merkel's destruction.
I would rather die on my feet then live on my knees.

Yet, you should never let anything or anyone keep you from visiting your Fatherland. People are still beautiful, nature is still beautiful and your core is there. So if you have a chance, do it.. for you!

Muzz do have authority in their schools, so you just wanna use this issue to discard other ways of teaching out of prejudice?!
UNFUCKINGREAL

You're a communist z. eey.uu fascist and deserve EVERYTHING what is happening to you.
EVERYTHING and a bit more.

Okay, so because I don't believe in separating schools by religion, because it is a perfect breeding ground for division, I am a communist and a fascist?

I think you left out nazi. Cool assessment buddy!

I'm not your buddy.
Being female, it feels ackward. Besides that, I don't appreciate your familiarity in this regard.

Anyways, you are beating about the bush.

You made it very clear though, you want to take away All freedom of school choice. Based on sheer prejudice of them lacking authority.

You only want state schools with fascist like authority from 100 years ago.Oh irony, muzz school only could exactly do that.

Funny, you mention "natzee"
The EU IS a n.az-i project, the Fourth Rheich, so to speak.
The Pane#ropian Unyon is their source of phylosofy, a very dangerous one.

You sound exact like them with all this "values" crap LOL

Btw I think the whole of religious freedom in schools should be eradicated.
Absolutely not the rest of alternative schools.

However, my opinion don't matter (If ever LOL) coz I don't live in your shithole country.
Live in my own.

I apologize for the unwanted familiarity. And can only conclude that we will never agree on this subject. You are filling in things for me that are simply not true.

But that's okay. It would be a boring place if we would all agree. Bed time anyway. Enjoy your night and stay safe!