Seen from the outside and on a superficial level by an average man, this Gnostic position appears to be an abominable rebelliousness

Thank you, that is encouraging.

All men must know....

1. He/She is not the creation of the True God/Father, but is the creation of a fallen god who stole the Sacred Archetypes from the HyperCosmoi of the Truth and with them he built a lame, flimsy and perishable world.

2. The Christ DOES NOT JUDGE ANYONE. He came to pay 'the archon of this world' with the Ransom for the deliverance of Man, and only when the man/soul invokes the benefit of this offer/sacrifice - the blood ransom- the powers of this world will allow him to return to his Spiritual Homeland.

If Man simply denies to go in front of the Karmic/Judgement Committee and does not invoke the Ransom paid for this reason by the 'third party guarantor' Christ, then he is dragged by force to 'Judgement' and then to a new incarnation.

The more pain I feel having to live in this world that I want no part of, the more I meditate and try to raise my vibration. It helps quite a bit.

It might also help to be around others with similar beliefs. I haven't had any luck with this yet, so I spend all my time in isolation -- maybe it's for the best? It's not surprising why this is so -- I imagine many just suicide when they reach this point.

would one rather be above sitting and watching or down here with those who are trapped.

Grieve no more, my disciples, concerning the mystery of, the Ineffable, thinking that ye will not understand it. Amēn, I say unto you: That mystery is yours, and every one's who will give ear unto you, so that they renounce this whole world and the whole matter therein and renounce all the evil thoughts therein and renounce all the cares of this æon.

Jesus explaineth that that mystery is really simpler than all mysteries.

"Now, therefore, I say unto you:

For every one who will renounce the whole world and all therein and will submit himself to the godhead, that mystery is far easier than all the mysteries of the Light-kingdom and it is sooner to understand than them all and it is easier [?] than them all. He who reacheth unto the gnosis of that mystery, renounceth this whole world and all the cares therein.

[link to gnosis.org]

'All ye who are heavy under your burden, come hither unto me, and I will quicken you.

For my burden is easy and my yoke is soft.' Now, therefore, he who will receive that mystery, renounceth the whole world and the cares of all the matter therein. For this cause, therefore, my disciples, grieve not, thinking that ye will not understand that mystery. Amēn, I say unto you: That mystery is far sooner to understand than all mysteries. And amēn, I say unto you: That mystery is yours and every one's who will renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein.

[link to gnosis.org]

Of the purifying mysteries.

I say unto you: For the sake of the race of men, because it is material, I have torn myself asunder and brought unto them all the mysteries of the Light, that I may purify them, for they are the refuse of the whole matter of their matter; else would no soul of the total race of men have been saved, and they would not be able to inherit the kingdom of the Light, if I had not brought unto them the purifying mysteries.

"For the emanations of the Light have no need of the mysteries, for they are purified; but it is the race of men which hath need of them, because they all are material refuse For this cause, therefore, have I said unto you aforetime: 'The healthy have no need. of the physician, but the sick,'--that is: Those of the Light have no need of the mysteries, for they are purified lights; but it is the race of men which hath need of them, for [they] are material refuse [pl.].

"For this cause, therefore, herald to the whole race of men, saying: Cease not to seek day and night, until ye find the purifying mysteries; and say unto the race of men: Renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein. For he who buyeth and selleth in the world and he who eateth and drinketh of its matter and who liveth in all its cares and in all its associations, amasseth other additional matters to the rest of his matter, because this whole world and all therein and all its associations are material refuse [pl.], and they will make enquiry of every one concerning his purity.

"For this cause, therefore, I have said unto you aforetime: Renounce the whole world and the whole matter therein, that ye may not amass other additional matter to the rest of your matter in you. For this cause, therefore, herald it to the whole race of men, saying: Renounce the whole world and all its associations, that ye may not amass additional matter to the rest of your matter in you; and say unto them: Cease not to seek day and night and remit not yourselves until ye find the purifying mysteries which will purify you and make you into a refined light, so that ye will go on high and inherit the light of my kingdom.

That all who are purified will be saved.

"Now, therefore, Andrew and all thy brethren thy co-disciples, because of your renunciations and all your sufferings which ye have endured in every region, and because of your changes in every region and of your being poured from one into another of different kinds of bodies and because of all your afflictions, and after all this ye have received the purifying mysteries and are become refined light exceedingly purified,--for this cause, therefore, ye will go on high and penetrate into all the regions of all the great emanations of the Light and be kings in the Light-kingdom for ever.

[link to gnosis.org]

Will be higher than all powers.

"But if ye come forth out of the body and come on high and reach unto the region of the rulers, then will all the rulers be seized with shame before you, because ye are the refuse of their matter and have become light more purified than them all. And if ye reach unto the region of the Great Invisible and unto the region of those of the Midst and of those of the Right and unto

the regions of all the great emanations of the Light, then will ye be revered among them all, because ye are the refuse of their matter and are became light more purified than them all. And all the regions will sing praises before you, until ye come to the region of the kingdom.

"This is the answer to the words on which ye question. Now, therefore, Andrew, art thou still in unfaith and unknowing?"

Jesus pardoneth the ignorance of Andrew.

When then the Saviour said this, Andrew knew clearly, not only he but also all the disciples knew with precision that they should inherit the Light-kingdom. They all threw themselves down together at Jesus' feet, cried aloud, wept and besought the Saviour, saying: "Lord, forgive our brother the sin of unknowing."

The Saviour answered and said: "I forgive and will forgive; for this cause, therefore, hath the First Mystery sent me, that I may forgive every one his sins."

[link to gnosis.org]

the sin of unknowing

The Rulers

The rulers wanted to fool people, since they saw that people have a kinship with what is truly good. They took the names of the good and assigned them to what is not good, to fool people with names and link the names to what is not good. So, as if they were doing people a favor, they took names from what is not good and transferred them to the good, in their own way of thinking. For they wished to take free people and enslave them forever.

The Forces

There are forces that do [favors] for people. They do not want people to come to [salvation], but they want their own existence to continue. For if people come to salvation, sacrifice will [stop]…and animals will not be offered up to the forces. In fact, those to whom sacrifices were made were animals. The animals were offered up alive, and after being offered they died. But a human being was offered up to God dead, and the human being came alive.

[link to gnosis.org]

Implications of Gnostic Beliefs

Procreative sex was bad, since conception would result in another soul being trapped.

The less one had to do with evil (ie material) things, the better. Eating animals, or animal products, was particularly abhorred, though fish were allowed (as they were thought to reproduce asexually and were not therefore able to imprison a soul).

The sooner we can shed this tunic of flesh, the sooner our souls could be free to fly like a spark of light back to heaven, the realm of the good God. There was therefore no reason to discourage suicide of a gnostic.

There was not any reason to regard men as better than women. The important part, the soul, was the same. Only the vile material body was different.

Since material objects were creations of the Bad God, it was absurd to imagine that they could be of any virtue.

So, for example, jewels, money, relics, the Eucharist, the cross, and church buildings were of no value whatsoever and should be loathed.

Anyone who attached great value to material things was at best mistaken and at worst a disciple of the Bad God. It was no secret that the Pope was the richest man in Europe. Cardinals, bishops and priests lived in great luxury and dressed in gorgeous robes. Worse, the Roman Church encouraged the worship of material objects such as the relics of saints. And worse yet it venerated the cross - not only a material object but also an instrument of torture. There was no escaping the logical conclusion. Roman Catholics were worshipping the wrong God - the God of Evil who had created this world. The behaviour of devout Catholics seemed to confirm this conclusion. Refer to the Roman Church as the Church of
The Demiurge.


[link to www.cathar.info]

THE IMPRISONMENT OF HUMANITY

The human being Adam was revealed through the bright shadow within. And Adam’s ability to think was greater than that of all the creators. When they looked up, they saw that Adam’s ability to think was greater, and they devised a plan with the whole throng of rulers and angels. They took fire, earth, and water, and combined them with the four fiery winds. They wrought them together and made a great commotion.

The rulers brought Adam into the shadow of death so that they might produce a figure again, from earth, water, fire, and the spirit that comes from matter, that is, from the ignorance of darkness, and desire, and their own false spirit. This is the cave for remodeling the body that these criminals put on the human, the fetter of forgetfulness. Adam became a mortal being, the first to descend and the first to become estranged.

The enlightened afterthought within Adam, however, would rejuvenate Adam’s mind.

The rulers took Adam and put Adam in paradise. They said, Eat, meaning, do so in a leisurely manner. But in fact their pleasure is bitter and their beauty is perverse. Their pleasure is a trap, their trees are a sacrilege, their fruit is deadly poison, their promise is death.

They put their tree of life in the middle of paradise.

I shall teach you the secret of their life, the plan they devised together, the nature of their spirit: The root of their tree is bitter, its branches are death, its shadow is hatred, a trap is in its leaves, its blossom is bad ointment, its fruit is death, desire is its seed, it blossoms in darkness. The dwelling place of those who taste of it is the underworld, and darkness is their resting place.

But the rulers lingered in front of what they call the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, which is the enlightened afterthought, so that Adam might not behold its fullness and recognize his shameful nakedness.

But I was the one who induced them to eat.

I said to the savior, Master, was it not the snake that instructed Adam to eat?

The savior laughed and said, The snake instructed them to eat of the wickedness of sexual desire and destruction so that Adam might be of use to the snake. This is the one who knew Adam was disobedient because of the enlightened afterthought within Adam, which made Adam stronger of mind than the first ruler. The first ruler wanted to recover the power that he himself had passed on to Adam. So he brought deep sleep upon Adam.

I said to the savior, What is this deep sleep?

The savior said, It is not as Moses wrote and you heard. He said in his first book, He put Adam to sleep. Rather, this deep sleep was a loss of sense. Thus the first ruler said through the prophet, I shall make their minds sluggish, that they may neither understand nor discern.

[link to gnosis.org]

Cursed be anyone who will trade these things for a gift, for food, drink, clothes, or anything like this.

To this day sexual intercourse has persisted because of the first ruler. He planted sexual desire in the woman who belongs to Adam. Through intercourse the first ruler produced duplicate bodies, and he blew some of his false spirit into them.

He placed these two rulers over the elements so that they might rule over the cave.

When Adam came to know the counterpart of his own foreknowledge, he produced a son like the human child. He called him Seth, after the manner of the heavenly race in the eternal realms. Similarly, the mother sent down her spirit, which is like her and is a copy of what is in the realm of fullness, for she was going to prepare a dwelling place for the eternal realms that would come down.

The human beings were made to drink water of forgetfulness by the first ruler, so that they might not know where they had come from. For a time the seed remained and helped so that when the spirit descends from the holy realms, it may raise up the seed and heal what it lacks, that the entire realm of fullness may be holy and lack nothing.

[link to gnosis.org]

"Wherefore, they who are ignorant and tread not the path of piety, dare call man fair and good.

Not even in their dreams have they seen what Ultimate Good is; and they call Ultimate Good all that is evil."

Hermes Trismegistus, Hermetic Texts, Vol. I, Speech VI:6

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Who is Lucifer?

The name Lucifer is not in the Hebrew Bible. It was introduced into translations of the Bible (and subsequent doctrines) by a bishop named Jerome, who translated what is known as the Latin Vulgate. When he reached the book of Isaiah, there is a passage describing a king of Babylon:

"How are you fallen from heaven, O Shining One, son of Dawn!" - Isaiah 14:12

At that time Jerome was battling politically against a Christian bishop named Lucifer, so he translated the Hebrew phrase הילל בן־שחר Hillel ben Schahar (Shining One, son of Dawn) as "Lucifer." Thus, in modern Bibles, it reads:

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" (King James version)

Although the original passage has nothing to do with Satan, "the devil," this minor change had massive impact on the interpretation of Christian doctrine and the now widespread misunderstanding of the name Lucifer.

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Lucifer, the "carrier of the light," is the equivilent to the Greek myth of Prometheus, the divinity who brings the life-giving fire to humanity, yet is punished for this act, and is only freed when that fire incarnates as the hero who liberates the Christic fire from its bondage in the stone.

Well, mostly. One should strive to love and serve the Creator God and Christ, and attempting to become superior to the true Creator will always end in failure.

But rebellion against the OT false ‘god’ AKA the demiurge is a good thing, as that being is a reptilian Beast, not God. Hence why he always talks of murder and darkness and punishment, whereas Christ ordered people to stop following his muderous laws. Who killed Christ? The ‘chosen people’ of the evil OT god, that’s who.

Christ is about LOVE and FORGIVENESS. Although many hateful ‘Christians’ have tarnished His name.

YHWH AKA Allah is about LORE(useless traditions and memorizing bible verses as opposed to actual love), DOMINANCE/SUBMISSION, JEALOUSY, HATRED, PUNISHMENT, and can not forgive.

Lucifer AKA Satan is pure evil as well, and will lead you to destruction.

Choose wisely.

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This is my understanding. Lucifer was also the snake in the garden who caused Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. which gave them Gnosis.



The life giving fire is the Christ?



If Lucifer is satan and the god of the OT (the demiurge) is to be rebelled against, then why did Lucifer the snake rebel against the demiurge in the garden by opening Adam and Eve's eyes as to their true predicament??

Surely if Lucifer was satan he would have been helping the demiurge with his plans, not rebelling against him??

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“I want to separate myself from the creator god and his creation, I want to separate myself from matter and time, I want to separate myself from my body and soul, I want to unite myself with my Spirit, I want my Spirit to be liberated, I want to be my Spirit, I am my Spirit”.

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"With what we have said up to now, we are in a position to reply to the three fundamental questions that man rarely ever asks himself in life.

These three questions are: Who am I? Why am I here? What must I do in this life?

Who am I? I am an uncreated and eternal Spirit, chained up in the created and ephemeral body-soul, imprisoned in matter.

Why am I here? I am here to be used as a lab animal, in a crazy insane experiment conceived by an inferior god. This plan requires an Eternal Spirit to be imprisoned, in order to use Its antimatter power to impel the evolution of this impure and mortal monstrosity called body-soul. The power of a Spirit is essential so that man can at some point achieve the final objective for which he has been created: his transformation into the demiurge. This antimatter energy, capable by itself of putting all creation in danger, is partly deactivated and diminished so as to be used safely. This is why the Spirit must be chained up and confused, so that It contributes only an extremely small part of Its potential to the sinister work of the demiurge.

What must I do in this life? I must wake up. I must become aware of my real situation and find a way out. Then I must liberate myself and escape from this prison."

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Why is the god of the Old Testament so different from the Father/God of Jesus in the New Testament?

Read here..

[link to www.marcionite-scripture.info]

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the endura rite
The Endura was a form of ritual suicide associated with the Cathars. In their world view, the physical flesh was an evil imperfection of the spiritual realm one could attain after death.

Therefore, suicide and assisted suicide were not deemed crimes - but instead a noble way to meet the end of a long life. The Endura was typically entwined with the Consolamentum, a quasi-monastic dedication to poverty, humility, chastity, etc. Basically, a person on their deathbed could seek redemption and absolution by committing their remaining hours to religious work and starving themselves.

One interpretation of the Voynich Manuscript is that it encodes the details of the Endura in a coded format that wouldn't get the Cathar practioner in trouble.

suicide is okay and reproduction isn't.

[link to arcana.wikidot.com]