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Duh, you need MAGIKAL Jet Fuel and owning the media helps.

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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


Oh yeah, I understand physics, but floors fucking blowing out in controlled fashion, that fucking MAGIK, shit for brains.

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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast

Yeah...that plane that hit building 7 was a doozy wasnt it?
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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


Oh yeah, I understand physics, but floors fucking blowing out in controlled fashion, that fucking MAGIK, shit for brains.

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bdg. is an entirely separate matter.
and it's easy to see how the two towers pancaked down from the top-down.
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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


Oh yeah, I understand physics, but floors fucking blowing out in controlled fashion, that fucking MAGIK, shit for brains.

hiding
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bdg. is an entirely separate matter.
and it's easy to see how the two towers pancaked down from the top-down.
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bdg. 7 is an entirely separate matter.
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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


Physics also tells us that a massive steel structure that is interconnected, and for want of a better description 'one piece' is also a massive heat sink, especially with the entire external interconnected steel structure acting as a radiator, with fins, in a high wind rated zone ....

... so any heat in localised spot fires would be distributed across the entire heat sink structure. A side from the relatively cheap construction methods, and ability to modularise each floor, fire retardation and heat transfer in a fire situation is the primary reason steel structures rule in the construction world.

On that day we saw convection and conduction of heat. Transfers from hot to cold. The localised damage, the localised fires and heat, the give away smoke. But we likely also saw radiated heat from 'something', somewhere else... resulting in molecular disassociation.

Physics.
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Building 7
Where was the pentagon plane and footage
WTC - explosions, demolition style fall, witnesses of explosions

Planes have hit tall buildings before and burning high rises have not collapsed.


Oh and did we say building 7?
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Lol

People who say "steel doesnt have to melt, it jus had to get weak to make the whole building crumble"


These people have never worked with steel.

Steel doesnt just explode into dust you fucking dumb pieces of shit.

It literally stays together like glue and gets even harder after it gets heated

There is no reason why the building exploded into dust you stupid fucking idiots who think they are smart about steel not having to melt .


And most certainly the building at the bottom would have more than enough capacity to support the burning steel on top.

Fucking idiots dont even open ur dumb ass mouth
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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


Go collect your $3.50. People's eyes are not lying, they know what they saw.
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how'd the jet fuel get on WTC 7, Hillary?
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The Twin Towers and WTC 7 were "special"

/sarcasm
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Unique Suspended floor design, with sub standard link couplers. Many couplers were replaced over a decade before, because the original contractor cut corners on them.

Look it up.
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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


You have chosen to call people "tards" several times when you yourself are in progress of displaying a profound lack of understanding of the fundamental rules of physics, which were all undeniably defied on 911. EVERY SINGLE site identified as being struck by a human piloted airplane on 911 broke several laws of physics. I hope you are being facetious because your bewilderment is shocking considering the vigor with which you throw your stones.

Typically when people speak in absolutes they have a preponderance of evidence to back them up; even so speaking in absolutes is the preeminent identifier of ignorance.

I've never seen a serious person in the scientific arena call someone names in lieu of presenting scientific data.

I think they say it's easier to lob insults than data when you are ill equipped to seriously debate a subject.
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Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


300 structural engineers and the laws of physics disagrees with your assessment. This combined with several dozen controlled demolition experts as well as a slew of veteran commercial and military pilots who've all gone on the record; these professionals have shared material science, structural data and physical plane specification limitations, all of which point to standard commercial human piloted jetliners being incapable of flying the purported flight paths at the speeds which were cited in their report. Also discussed at length was the inability of airplane aluminum to slice through structural steel and bomb reinforced concrete walls.

You did watch the event live didn't you? Did it surprise you that the fragile aluminum nose cone from a 747 was capable of slicing through two exterior structural steel walls of the WTC? Was it also surprising to find out that this "nose cone" also traveled through the steel and concrete reinforced central core of the building which was overbuilt as a redundant load carrying structural component. Was it also surprising that this aluminum "nose cone" also magically traveled through a fully populated office, interior walls and furniture so efficiently that it never lost a bit of speed or energy before emerging out the other side of the building and flying horizontally landing several city blocks away from the WTC.

Before you answer that you ought to take a glance at the blueprints. The WTC was built like a fortress, it was so overbuilt the building could have stood proud after completely losing all four exterior walls. If the exterior walls stood prod then building could have withstood the loss of the entire central without a catastrophic failure. They picked the wrong building complex to perpetuate this event.

Speaking of building complex... Building 7 was never struck with airplanes, kerosene or flying passports and amazingly it was also completely spared by the vaporized millions of tons of structural steel, concrete, office furniture and rubble. Yet the building still fell at freefall speed; it still fell on demand several minutes after they announced on fire & rescue radio it was going to be 'brought down'.

Speaking of being brought down, Larry Silverstein the lease holder and insurance payee of the WTC reported that he gave the order to implode the building. The only problem is according to professional demolition experts it would have taken 6-7 days at minimum to wire and arm building 7 for demolition. The official story is that it just fell down, the owner said he had it demolished.

Speaking of physics... it's physically impossible to prep a building for demolition in 30 minutes especially when there were several ongoing office fires.

Can you answer the question as to why the CIA confiscated closed circuit camera tapes from every building with a sky-view of the flight path of the pentagon "plane" and did so in a 5 mile circumference of said "flight" path; how did they have the manpower during the opening moments of the crises to confiscate several hundred tapes (360+ tapes from my sources) within 20 minutes of the "airplane" er missile striking the outer ring? You do know that feat in itself is impossible without prior knowledge don't you?

Why does the government refuse to return the tapes to the business owners? Why are these tapes still classified above t0p secret?

But Wait... it was just an airplane being flown by an Arab flight student who failed to meet minimum flight requirements but miraculously overcame physics, overcame airplane specifications to fly an airplane at 500mph into a banked curve just 100 yards off the ground.

Slight problem, the airplane is COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of achieving these high speeds at low altitude... slight problem #2 this plane would have failed structurally if exposed to these speeds and flight path conditions.

TLDR... The official story of the WTC and Pentagon are not simply unlikely they are impossible, not improbable...

All those who are qualified in their fields have claimed all of it was Completely Impossible.

But you already knew that because you are a paid government goon who can't satisfy your wife.
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And i bet they won't find any pristine passports in the rubble.
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i know that 2 big jets full of fuel flew into those
2 buildings, and that says a lot.
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You don't know a god damn thing, you inbred troglodyte. You should have gotten your grade 10, it could have helped you so much.
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yeah starting WITH that HOLLOW INNER CORE thingie commonly called elevator shafts running for more than 110 floors acting as bessemer convertors ya moron. draft plus burning jet fuel.
and of course steel doesn't melt .then how the hell is IT made ?
etc
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rofl

You do know that the trade center was made with several sets of elevators, there were no shafts that ran 110 floors. Are you fucking retarded? Apparently so...

I guess you never set foot inside the towers.

The melting point of steel is several hundred degrees higher than kerosene, like 1,000 degrees higher. Papers and office furniture can't melt steel. rofl

Steel is melted in a forge which is highly insulated, or the steel is completely enveloped in extremely hot coals and fed with an extreme volume of oxygen... much higher airflow than you can achieve in the open air of an office fire.

Steel melts at 2500-2800 degrees Fahrenheit.
Jet fuel burns at temperatures between 800 to 1500 Fahrenheit.

The real problem is... in a crash the jet fuel burns away completely in an instant, it doesn't miraculously wrap itself around steel columns and apply it's maximum heat temperature for an extremely long period of time which would be necessary to weaken steel.

Even if you specifically designed a torch to apply a jet fuel powered flame to a massive steel column it would not get hot enough in the open air to bend or cut a structural steel column. The heat dissipates and radiates too quickly.

That's why they use Acetylene gas combined with pure oxygen to get 5-6k degrees F to cut steel.

Normal outside air only has 23% Oxygen but with a fire burning the oxygen is consumed rapidly if it's not being force fed with high winds or artificially with fans.
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They tell us that an hour of burning can bring down three huge buildings.... then you see this...

[link to i.imgur.com (secure)] (on fire last night)

[link to s.yimg.com (secure)] (This morning)
 Quoting: GKKwatch


Did a fuel laden passenger plane fly into them before they were engulfed with fire?

I guess some people don't understand how structures fall.

Look, tards, The steal beams don't have to melt. (Talking about the wtc here) They merely have to soften, as metal does when it's heated. Right?
Are you with me so far?

Add on several 10s of thousands of tonnes of steel (The top floors of wtc) and the softer metal below it (that's been heated) will not be able to support the weight. Did I also mention that the frame of the buildings themselves were compromised by the planes hitting them? This will cause the structure to fail.
I swear, WTC tards are a bad as the flat earth folks.

Physics people, it's all about the physics..
 Quoting: Radaghast


Oh yeah, I understand physics, but floors fucking blowing out in controlled fashion, that fucking MAGIK, shit for brains.

hiding
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bdg. is an entirely separate matter.
and it's easy to see how the two towers pancaked down from the top-down.
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No it isnt, specifically the buildings were DESIGNED AND BUILT tu survive exactly what happened, so, why is nobody suing them for defective design?

The fact is as a trained and previously employed aircraft crash investigator I know that in crashes at such speeds are the fuel is vaporized by the impact and burned off with very little left.

The building was cool enough for people to stand in the hole waiting for rescue.

If you think kerosene can melt steel why doesnt a thin tin can with gas it in melt when its lit?

Because the maximum potential heat capacity is never reached because the type of covalent bonds are in excess of what local oxygen can burn and the rest is converted to smoke which is unburned fuel in the form of soot.

You need highly pressurized air or pure oxygen to burn liquid hydrocarbons at maximum temps

Thats a fact.
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yeah starting WITH that HOLLOW INNER CORE thingie commonly called elevator shafts running for more than 110 floors acting as bessemer convertors ya moron. draft plus burning jet fuel.
and of course steel doesn't melt .then how the hell is IT made ?
etc
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rofl

You do know that the trade center was made with several sets of elevators, there were no shafts that ran 110 floors. Are you fucking retarded? Apparently so...

I guess you never set foot inside the towers.

The melting point of steel is several hundred degrees higher than kerosene, like 1,000 degrees higher. Papers and office furniture can't melt steel. rofl

Steel is melted in a forge which is highly insulated, or the steel is completely enveloped in extremely hot coals and fed with an extreme volume of oxygen... much higher airflow than you can achieve in the open air of an office fire.

Steel melts at 2500-2800 degrees Fahrenheit.
Jet fuel burns at temperatures between 800 to 1500 Fahrenheit.

The real problem is... in a crash the jet fuel burns away completely in an instant, it doesn't miraculously wrap itself around steel columns and apply it's maximum heat temperature for an extremely long period of time which would be necessary to weaken steel.

Even if you specifically designed a torch to apply a jet fuel powered flame to a massive steel column it would not get hot enough in the open air to bend or cut a structural steel column. The heat dissipates and radiates too quickly.

That's why they use Acetylene gas combined with pure oxygen to get 5-6k degrees F to cut steel.

Normal outside air only has 23% Oxygen but with a fire burning the oxygen is consumed rapidly if it's not being force fed with high winds or artificially with fans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77626440


THe OS shills make the claim that you can take a 1000 degree heat source and somehow get to 2000 degrees with it.

Then they would tell you that you can take a match or a bic lighter and instantly heat everything within its viscinity to temperature at least equal to the tiny maximum heat in the flame, akin to taking a fart and somehow using the heated gas to boil a swimming pool full of water with it.

Its just not how the real world works.

ANYONE WITH A SPECK OF REVIEW of how heat works would easily come to the conclusion that the OS cannot be as claimed, simply by reviewing basic high school chemistry.

Why people who have higher degree education lie about it, I can only imagine, mostly its that they are products of yeshiva education system, which teaches that anything they want to be true, if it benefits them, is true and anything that is non-complementary is not true.

EVERY major gate keeper in promoting the OS fiction comes from such point of view.
EVERY major gate keeper in promoting the OS fiction made huge personal profits at the publics expense.

Thats some fiction, along with findings intact incriminating passports but not finding any trace of the black boxes.

Its bullshit.
You should know WHY its bullshit.

Nature does not change for the chosen, the chosen lie about nature for fun and big profit.

No coincidence.
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yeah starting WITH that HOLLOW INNER CORE thingie commonly called elevator shafts running for more than 110 floors acting as bessemer convertors ya moron. draft plus burning jet fuel.
and of course steel doesn't melt .then how the hell is IT made ?
etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78037926


rofl

You do know that the trade center was made with several sets of elevators, there were no shafts that ran 110 floors. Are you fucking retarded? Apparently so...

I guess you never set foot inside the towers.

The melting point of steel is several hundred degrees higher than kerosene, like 1,000 degrees higher. Papers and office furniture can't melt steel. rofl

Steel is melted in a forge which is highly insulated, or the steel is completely enveloped in extremely hot coals and fed with an extreme volume of oxygen... much higher airflow than you can achieve in the open air of an office fire.

Steel melts at 2500-2800 degrees Fahrenheit.
Jet fuel burns at temperatures between 800 to 1500 Fahrenheit.

The real problem is... in a crash the jet fuel burns away completely in an instant, it doesn't miraculously wrap itself around steel columns and apply it's maximum heat temperature for an extremely long period of time which would be necessary to weaken steel.

Even if you specifically designed a torch to apply a jet fuel powered flame to a massive steel column it would not get hot enough in the open air to bend or cut a structural steel column. The heat dissipates and radiates too quickly.

That's why they use Acetylene gas combined with pure oxygen to get 5-6k degrees F to cut steel.

Normal outside air only has 23% Oxygen but with a fire burning the oxygen is consumed rapidly if it's not being force fed with high winds or artificially with fans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77626440


THe OS shills make the claim that you can take a 1000 degree heat source and somehow get to 2000 degrees with it.

Then they would tell you that you can take a match or a bic lighter and instantly heat everything within its viscinity to temperature at least equal to the tiny maximum heat in the flame, akin to taking a fart and somehow using the heated gas to boil a swimming pool full of water with it.

Its just not how the real world works.

ANYONE WITH A SPECK OF REVIEW of how heat works would easily come to the conclusion that the OS cannot be as claimed, simply by reviewing basic high school chemistry.

Why people who have higher degree education lie about it, I can only imagine, mostly its that they are products of yeshiva education system, which teaches that anything they want to be true, if it benefits them, is true and anything that is non-complementary is not true.

EVERY major gate keeper in promoting the OS fiction comes from such point of view.
EVERY major gate keeper in promoting the OS fiction made huge personal profits at the publics expense.

Thats some fiction, along with findings intact incriminating passports but not finding any trace of the black boxes.

Its bullshit.
You should know WHY its bullshit.

Nature does not change for the chosen, the chosen lie about nature for fun and big profit.

No coincidence.
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hesright

Purposefully taking advantage of stupid people with full spectrum psychological warfare and propaganda should be against the law. Punishable by death served on a stake over a fire.
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Only two shills? they aren't even trying anymore.

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