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Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?

 
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OP,

The true answer depends upon the risk. If there is high risk, hell no. If low risk, I'd look seriously at it.

My folks in the US think they will be getting rich selling legal Weed - I've been offered several partnerships. Risk was too high and, in my opinion, the expected returns were over optimistic.

risk is the important factor.
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That business is not really about just growing the weed, its about marketing and selling these days.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Hell no it ain't too much. My question would be how soon am I getting my money back.
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The returns would be each quarter and i would integrate the option in the contract to pull-out the entire investment each 6 months.

So that's a really good deal right?
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If all your investors opted for the pull out, can you do it financially? If not, don't offer it.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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Using the word "guarantee" makes it look like you're inexperienced in both business and investing which would make most qualified investors run for the hills.

I would suggest you modify your pitch to remove that language (even if you feel it's justified) and instead stress the strength and accuracy of your market research and forecasts.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
OP,

The true answer depends upon the risk. If there is high risk, hell no. If low risk, I'd look seriously at it.

My folks in the US think they will be getting rich selling legal Weed - I've been offered several partnerships. Risk was too high and, in my opinion, the expected returns were over optimistic.

risk is the important factor.
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I think you made the right decision. There's enough weed in the world to get everyone high for days, way to much competition

I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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Using the word "guarantee" makes it look like you're inexperienced in both business and investing which would make most qualified investors run for the hills.

I would suggest you modify your pitch to remove that language (even if you feel it's justified) and instead stress the strength and accuracy of your market research and forecasts.
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I will, i appreciate the advice you guys give me

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
With what do you back the guarantee?

When you decide to take the cash and move to Latvia how will my money be returned?
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I have to second guess your offer. Anyone who writes “alot”. Instead of “a lot” is suspect. What are you the Dumb & Dumber guy?
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I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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10% minimum for 10 years minimum for me to buy in...
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
We get a compounded interest of about 9 percent on fixed deposit in govt. banks.Safest form of investment for most of the indians.
few years ago it was as high as 20 percent.
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A true capitalist KNOWS there is no such thing as a guaranteed return so because you obviously haven't thought about the known unknowns, i would have to pass
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We get a compounded interest of about 9 percent on fixed deposit in govt. banks.Safest form of investment for most of the indians.
few years ago it was as high as 20 percent.
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And in a few more years you'll get a negative interest rate, withdraw limits, and capital controls.
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invest $1 million and get a $100k year return guaranteed Yes, 30 year contract ?.



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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
With what do you back the guarantee?

When you decide to take the cash and move to Latvia how will my money be returned?
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All the terms would be sealed in the contract so you'd have legal rights. That's also a reason why i'm asking directions here im obviously a rookie. I need all the advice and directions i can get.

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
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Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor
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Your numbers are all over the map. First you say a 10% return which would be decent. Now you say 10% each quarter which means I'd get $4 back each YEAR for a $10 investment.

Which is it?
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
OP,

The true answer depends upon the risk. If there is high risk, hell no. If low risk, I'd look seriously at it.

My folks in the US think they will be getting rich selling legal Weed - I've been offered several partnerships. Risk was too high and, in my opinion, the expected returns were over optimistic.

risk is the important factor.
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Agree on the weed. It will generate mass profits early as big business pounces on small operations buying them up for consolidation then big business will choke out the rest of the competition by selling mass amounts at below cost rates for 1-2 years. Small and independent grows will fold and larger ones will be bled out through regulation enacted on behalf of the big business. Altria AKA Phillip Morris is already positioned to do this as legalization spreads. Hell they have been building onto plant 500 in Richmond VA like crazy even though cigarettes are almost exclusively sold to other countries with domestic sells down to a fraction of what they were just 10 years ago. If anything just buy into Altria and let it ride for the next 10-20 years you’ll do fine. Also homegrown will always be the best.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
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Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor
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Your numbers are all over the map. First you say a 10% return which would be decent. Now you say 10% each quarter which means I'd get $4 back each YEAR for a $10 investment.

Which is it?
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You're right it's confusing. I meant a ~10% return on each $10 that gets invested from the investors budget. The pay outs will be either annualy or each quarter depending on what the investor wants and he can pull out the entire investment each 6 months on a 3 month notice.

The investment is basically secure so i can assure low risk because of the type of buseniss this is.

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Invest $2800 into yang2020.com and get a return of $12,000 each year until death. And, all your descendants will all also get $12,000 each year until death.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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And of course there is NO business risk ...

Yeah ... Bernie Madoff also had a plan for "Risk Free" "High Returns" investor money that was invested with him.


(reality check - as someone who dealt with a number of small business startups many years ago [but never did bars] 50% are insolvent within 2 years, 80% don't survive 5 years, and less than 10% are still around at the end of 10 years)
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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10% minimum for 10 years minimum for me to buy in...
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Man you're choking me lol. I'd be looking to go independant as soon as i can. You already know that so you throw a 10 year sentence on me right?

I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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And of course there is NO business risk ...

Yeah ... Bernie Madoff also had a plan for "Risk Free" "High Returns" investor money that was invested with him.


(reality check - as someone who dealt with a number of small business startups many years ago [but never did bars] 50% are insolvent within 2 years, 80% don't survive 5 years, and less than 10% are still around at the end of 10 years)
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Logically you're weary about investing after a couple of bad investments but i'd be supplying all my research and plans so the investor can make his own decision based on that. The question is wether or not the offer is reasonable etc and what i can do to make it so if not. And generally asking for directions and tips here

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Why do you say 10% for each 10 dollars invested, do you even know how percentages work?
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sounds too good to be true. So it must be too good to be true.
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That's good though, that means i can probably offer less return on investment.

Is 10% considered too good to be true? What is reasonable, what does the average investor expect?
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Yes, 10% is high. Sounds fishy.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sounds too good to be true. So it must be too good to be true.
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That's good though, that means i can probably offer less return on investment.

Is 10% considered too good to be true? What is reasonable, what does the average investor expect?
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Yes, 10% is high. Sounds fishy.
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So im on a winner here, that is when all the documents and research for the investor pull through as valid right? Im guessing i wont be struggling for an investor when i read some of the comments.

Im not looking to scam or illegal activity i believe in honest buseniss.

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
We get a compounded interest of about 9 percent on fixed deposit in govt. banks.Safest form of investment for most of the indians.
few years ago it was as high as 20 percent.
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And in a few more months you'll get a negative interest rate, withdraw limits, and capital controls.
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fixed for ya
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sounds too good to be true. So it must be too good to be true.
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That's good though, that means i can probably offer less return on investment.

Is 10% considered too good to be true? What is reasonable, what does the average investor expect?
 Quoting: 589


Yes, 10% is high. Sounds fishy.
 Quoting: Gami


So im on a winner here, that is when all the documents and research for the investor pull through as valid right? Im guessing i wont be struggling for an investor when i read some of the comments.

Im not looking to scam or illegal activity i believe in honest buseniss.
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lot of people ended scamming their customers just because they were too confident and retarded to know they were stupid.

40% year is hard to believe out of any regular investment in a doomed economy if you dont have some solid product other cannot replicate.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sounds too good to be true. So it must be too good to be true.
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That's good though, that means i can probably offer less return on investment.

Is 10% considered too good to be true? What is reasonable, what does the average investor expect?
 Quoting: 589


Yes, 10% is high. Sounds fishy.
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So im on a winner here, that is when all the documents and research for the investor pull through as valid right? Im guessing i wont be struggling for an investor when i read some of the comments.

Im not looking to scam or illegal activity i believe in honest buseniss.
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If you are projecting correctly, yes. But I’m still not convinced you know what you are doing.
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if you can take lets say 50K of your own money and return 10% a quarter to yourself, Do it for 3-5yrs..document it, and then look for investors
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I could turn a billion into a trillion is that a high enough return?
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That's good though, that means i can probably offer less return on investment.

Is 10% considered too good to be true? What is reasonable, what does the average investor expect?
 Quoting: 589


Yes, 10% is high. Sounds fishy.
 Quoting: Gami


So im on a winner here, that is when all the documents and research for the investor pull through as valid right? Im guessing i wont be struggling for an investor when i read some of the comments.

Im not looking to scam or illegal activity i believe in honest buseniss.
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If you are projecting correctly, yes. But I’m still not convinced you know what you are doing.
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I should be looking to educate myself more on all the specifics and have everything straightened out for sure. But knowing myself i wouldnt even start anything without having done that before going in, im actually quite confident about myself concerning that part. I'd be on top of everything and hate having unknowns.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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