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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78155765 Australia 11/12/2019 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol, the Glen Innes standing stones were built in 1991, to celebrate their celtic connections. Its supposed to represent Stonehenge in the UK. [link to gleninneshighlands.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78155765 Australia 11/12/2019 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However, I have heard a reference to an ancient city in South Australia, which British soldiers drove into after detonating the nukes at Maralinga. I've looked on google earth, but haven't been able to see them. On the other hand, there is a story that they are digging up some giant skeletons south of Uluru at the moment. Maybe they are exploring that city. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76771962 Australia 11/12/2019 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know that some of the Egyptian Gold has an Australian signature ( I forget exactly where possibly Bendigo). Also there is a pyramid in gimpy. There is a Viking port up nort QLD somewhere. There are som aboriginal painting depicting Chinese ships. Just off the top of my head. Oh and also there are some lines on the ground in the red centre that go for kms.) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78138861 Australia 11/12/2019 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You might like this book [link to www.allenandunwin.com (secure)] The Biggest Estate on Earth How Aborigines made Australia Bill Gammage Explodes the myth that pre-settlement Australia was an untamed wilderness revealing the complex, country-wide systems of land management used by Aboriginal people. Across Australia, early Europeans commented again and again that the land looked like a park. With extensive grassy patches and pathways, open woodlands and abundant wildlife, it evoked a country estate in England. Bill Gammage has discovered this was because Aboriginal people managed the land in a far more systematic and scientific fashion than we have ever realised. For over a decade, Gammage has examined written and visual records of the Australian landscape. He has uncovered an extraordinarily complex system of land management using fire and the life cycles of native plants to ensure plentiful wildlife and plant foods throughout the year. We know Aboriginal people spent far less time and effort than Europeans in securing food and shelter, and now we know how they did it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78059990 United States 11/12/2019 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You start from a fairly ill-informed depiction of early European settlement. There was no indiscriminate or intentional 'slaughter' as you put it by all accounts, but rather, an intention of co-existence. Problems arose at some settlements because the original peoples had no concept at all of ownership. So, what happened, was where Europeans farmed and produced, somE could not conceive the animals and produce were not there for the taking, so they would regularly just take the domesticated farm animals (bare in mind they were considered crucial by the settlers for their survival and prosperity) and so settlers were forced to defend or shoot to save their own skins. This is more or less how any deaths came. The growing distrust and actions did not help, but it was not a case that there was indiscriminate or random slaughter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75470405 Australia 11/12/2019 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You start from a fairly ill-informed depiction of early European settlement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059990 There was no indiscriminate or intentional 'slaughter' as you put it by all accounts, but rather, an intention of co-existence. Problems arose at some settlements because the original peoples had no concept at all of ownership. So, what happened, was where Europeans farmed and produced, somE could not conceive the animals and produce were not there for the taking, so they would regularly just take the domesticated farm animals (bare in mind they were considered crucial by the settlers for their survival and prosperity) and so settlers were forced to defend or shoot to save their own skins. This is more or less how any deaths came. The growing distrust and actions did not help, but it was not a case that there was indiscriminate or random slaughter. and in fact South Australian settlers went to great lengths to co-exist. As free settlers and the last of the colonies they tried to learn from the others in how to work with the Aborigines. The reinvention of history is just mind boggling. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76254347 Australia 11/12/2019 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rex Gilroy has some interesting ideas in his books on OZ. You read any of them OP? Also, there was an article in Nexus mag about a cave with Egyptian hieroglyphs on the walls, took me a few years to eventually find it with some mates after quizzing locals. It's 100% a fake, but a really good fake. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77999704 Canada 11/12/2019 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You start from a fairly ill-informed depiction of early European settlement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059990 There was no indiscriminate or intentional 'slaughter' as you put it by all accounts, but rather, an intention of co-existence. Problems arose at some settlements because the original peoples had no concept at all of ownership. So, what happened, was where Europeans farmed and produced, somE could not conceive the animals and produce were not there for the taking, so they would regularly just take the domesticated farm animals (bare in mind they were considered crucial by the settlers for their survival and prosperity) and so settlers were forced to defend or shoot to save their own skins. This is more or less how any deaths came. The growing distrust and actions did not help, but it was not a case that there was indiscriminate or random slaughter. and in fact South Australian settlers went to great lengths to co-exist. As free settlers and the last of the colonies they tried to learn from the others in how to work with the Aborigines. The reinvention of history is just mind boggling. Indeed. I keep hearing a narrative that Europeans came and subjugated native Canadians. The truth is that they came to establish trading networks. The French and Scots traded axes, knives, tools, and firearms for fur pelts. What kind of conqueror sells weapons to their victims? The French and British formed military alliances with the natives. Massive deaths through small pox and the simple flu was a catastrophic unforeseen consequence of this friendly relationship. Later, the native culture became overwhelmed by immigration, technology, and the do-gooder nanny state maternalism of the pedo-raping elites. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78010853 Australia 11/12/2019 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bit of history as to why it's such a desert here: Humans, not climate change, wiped out Australian megafauna [link to phys.org (secure)] . |
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User ID: 69498075 Australia 11/12/2019 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still looking for the article/video I saw years ago about stone carvings near Sydney somewhere. In the mean time there is this: [link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)] Ok, I think this one is the one I was looking for: Last Edited by AdorableLittlepixie on 11/12/2019 07:26 AM AdorableLittlepixie I am safe and protected with every step I take with everybody always. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78159155 Australia 11/12/2019 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You might like this book [link to www.allenandunwin.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78138861 The Biggest Estate on Earth How Aborigines made Australia Bill Gammage Explodes the myth that pre-settlement Australia was an untamed wilderness revealing the complex, country-wide systems of land management used by Aboriginal people. Across Australia, early Europeans commented again and again that the land looked like a park. With extensive grassy patches and pathways, open woodlands and abundant wildlife, it evoked a country estate in England. Bill Gammage has discovered this was because Aboriginal people managed the land in a far more systematic and scientific fashion than we have ever realised. For over a decade, Gammage has examined written and visual records of the Australian landscape. He has uncovered an extraordinarily complex system of land management using fire and the life cycles of native plants to ensure plentiful wildlife and plant foods throughout the year. We know Aboriginal people spent far less time and effort than Europeans in securing food and shelter, and now we know how they did it. That looks real interesting, I've heard a few things about how they gardened the entire place. Will defs give that a read. I'm fascinated to find out what I can about this continent. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78159155 Australia 11/12/2019 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You start from a fairly ill-informed depiction of early European settlement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059990 There was no indiscriminate or intentional 'slaughter' as you put it by all accounts, but rather, an intention of co-existence. Problems arose at some settlements because the original peoples had no concept at all of ownership. So, what happened, was where Europeans farmed and produced, somE could not conceive the animals and produce were not there for the taking, so they would regularly just take the domesticated farm animals (bare in mind they were considered crucial by the settlers for their survival and prosperity) and so settlers were forced to defend or shoot to save their own skins. This is more or less how any deaths came. The growing distrust and actions did not help, but it was not a case that there was indiscriminate or random slaughter. and in fact South Australian settlers went to great lengths to co-exist. As free settlers and the last of the colonies they tried to learn from the others in how to work with the Aborigines. The reinvention of history is just mind boggling. Indeed. I keep hearing a narrative that Europeans came and subjugated native Canadians. The truth is that they came to establish trading networks. The French and Scots traded axes, knives, tools, and firearms for fur pelts. What kind of conqueror sells weapons to their victims? The French and British formed military alliances with the natives. Massive deaths through small pox and the simple flu was a catastrophic unforeseen consequence of this friendly relationship. Later, the native culture became overwhelmed by immigration, technology, and the do-gooder nanny state maternalism of the pedo-raping elites. May I ask where you both got that viewpoint? Because a fair amount of credible sources paint a pretty grim picture of the early years of colonisation. Blood on the Wattle is a pretty intense read, and Secret Country by John Pilger, are both books by respected researchers on the topic and they don't mention a whole bunch of co-operation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78010853 Australia 11/12/2019 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You start from a fairly ill-informed depiction of early European settlement. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78059990 There was no indiscriminate or intentional 'slaughter' as you put it by all accounts, but rather, an intention of co-existence. Problems arose at some settlements because the original peoples had no concept at all of ownership. So, what happened, was where Europeans farmed and produced, somE could not conceive the animals and produce were not there for the taking, so they would regularly just take the domesticated farm animals (bare in mind they were considered crucial by the settlers for their survival and prosperity) and so settlers were forced to defend or shoot to save their own skins. This is more or less how any deaths came. The growing distrust and actions did not help, but it was not a case that there was indiscriminate or random slaughter. That's right, and there were plenty of whites killed for no reason, some white women were raped. People also need to know there were hundreds of different 'tribes', many hated each other, and killed each other. Another fact, little known, there are cannibalistic aboriginals up the top of Qld, to this very day. Whiteys don't go there, unless under guard, you are called 'white flesh'. . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78159155 Australia 11/12/2019 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rex Gilroy has some interesting ideas in his books on OZ. You read any of them OP? Quoting: BadHairDay Also, there was an article in Nexus mag about a cave with Egyptian hieroglyphs on the walls, took me a few years to eventually find it with some mates after quizzing locals. It's 100% a fake, but a really good fake. Nah but they are on my reading list. Those glyphs could be faked, however I recall a story about how when Dutch sailors encountered aboriginals they found they could communicate using Mason hand-signals. Now everything the Masons know they got from Egypt, so it wouldn't be out of the question that prior contact between Australian aboriginals and Egyptian people took place. Even seem more likely the more evidence we compile that points to a previous global civilisation before the last cataclysm. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78155765 Australia 11/12/2019 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Steve Strong has written the most about the Glyphs at Kariong, near Gosford. I've been there twice. He says they have been confirmed as legit by Egyptologists. In fact, a point they used to discredit them, that some were not right, turned out to be a very early form of hieroglyphs that predate most of the obvious ones in Egypt. They are easy to get to, but the land is to be developed soon, so they might be closed off. He has also written about evidence of ancient cities, some discovered by himself and others shown to him by people who stumbled upon them, and some by our indigenous people. The gold in the tomb in Egypt came from Ballarat. The Gympie pyramid wasn't a traditional one, but a psychic from NZ claims there was some small ones on the coast near the sunshine coast, which were bulldozed, but a big one in a lake near there, covered with water. Rex Gilroy's website really is worth reading if you are serious, he has found evidence of Phoenicians here. There are fossils embedded in a cliff in Victoria I think. They must have been slammed into it during a tsunami, in my opinion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78155765 Australia 11/12/2019 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this proof an Egyptian pyramid is hidden in AUSTRALIA? Amateur archaeologists claim a man-made structure was built under a mountain in Queensland some 5,000 years ago Amateur archaeologists believe Egyptians may have built pyramids in Australia It's claimed a group of Egyptians, including royals, visited some 5,000 years ago Hieroglyphics reportedly indicate number of pyramids were built in Queensland A pyramid at Gympie was demolished into the sea with other location unknown Group of Egyptologists claim pyramid may be hidden under mountain in Cairns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78155765 Australia 11/12/2019 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Were these the standing stones you meant, what they have termed Australia's stonehenge? Again, it was Steve Strong and his son who have already researched and documented them. [link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78155765 Australia 11/12/2019 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Photos of the glyphs, and which has links to pages about them. The carving of the sphinx is not at Kariong, but in a National Park in Sydney, carved by a soldier who had been in Egypt. Also interesting are the aboriginal stories from around that region. One mountain has a big caving of a space diety on it, and another is where he was said to have landed. I'll get a link to an episode of ancient aliens about it for you. You haven't done much research yet ... lol [link to www.google.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 78159155 Australia 11/12/2019 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Were these the standing stones you meant, what they have termed Australia's stonehenge? Again, it was Steve Strong and his son who have already researched and documented them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78155765 [link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)] Yeah that's the one, I should go out and have a look at the place. I've seen a couple of Steve Strong videos and I really should look more into his stuff. Here's a place to start. Go digging around the base of this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78155765 Is this proof an Egyptian pyramid is hidden in AUSTRALIA? Amateur archaeologists claim a man-made structure was built under a mountain in Queensland some 5,000 years ago Amateur archaeologists believe Egyptians may have built pyramids in Australia It's claimed a group of Egyptians, including royals, visited some 5,000 years ago Hieroglyphics reportedly indicate number of pyramids were built in Queensland A pyramid at Gympie was demolished into the sea with other location unknown Group of Egyptologists claim pyramid may be hidden under mountain in Cairns [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Legit on the Sunshine coast in QLD and just a bit inland are more than one mountain that from a distance look like pyramids. They seem to massive to be ones covered by earth but some of them are definitely worth poking around. There is one that if you are on the beach at Maroochydore it looks like a perfect pyramid just off the coast. I've heard of a mountain near Cooktown called Black Mountain which apparently has a bunch of strange shit to it. Would also be worth a look but apparently the aboriginals won't go near it and a bunch of people have disappeared near it. That one will need a drone flyover first. Order is tyranny, chaos is freedom. |