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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62716963 Canada 12/08/2019 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it ego? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Is it the fear of being found out? Is it complete and utter immaturity? I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by. I've made some incredibly stupid mistakes; normally I am very aware. |
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User ID: 75854309 Australia 12/08/2019 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | blackwhite The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary." Clearly evident from all sides the 3rd shaking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62716963 Canada 12/08/2019 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it ego? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Is it the fear of being found out? Is it complete and utter immaturity? I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by. I've made some incredibly stupid mistakes; normally I am very aware. I feel like the stupid mistakes were invasive thoughts. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/08/2019 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | blackwhite Quoting: xenophon The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary." Clearly evident from all sides There's definitely some level of self deception going on. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78100282 United States 12/08/2019 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When people are ahead, they get over-confident & almost always keep pushing till they lose it all. When they've lost it all, they delude themselves into thinking they can recover from it by doing more of the same. It's a compulsion that shows you how freakin insane many people are. I never gamble anymore in games of chance because seeing it in others made me fear getting caught in that same trap. I do gamble in business but that's different - I'm betting on myself & my abilities. But never dice, cards, sports, horses, racing cars, etc. |
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User ID: 75854309 Australia 12/08/2019 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | blackwhite Quoting: xenophon The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary." Clearly evident from all sides There's definitely some level of self deception going on. With a smorgasbord of false narratives for people to self-indulge. Must be less work to pick a side and say "sure it is" than to take a step back and detach from the non-sense. Perhaps the fear of not being on a side is too much the 3rd shaking |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78235218 Switzerland 12/08/2019 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | blackwhite Quoting: xenophon The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary." Clearly evident from all sides The beast has two heads |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/08/2019 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you've ever gambled with a group of people, you'll see the "mechanism" up close & personal. Many years ago I ran a dice game with friends, & learned a lot about this very thing. Quoting: XeroGravity When people are ahead, they get over-confident & almost always keep pushing till they lose it all. When they've lost it all, they delude themselves into thinking they can recover from it by doing more of the same. It's a compulsion that shows you how freakin insane many people are. I never gamble anymore in games of chance because seeing it in others made me fear getting caught in that same trap. I do gamble in business but that's different - I'm betting on myself & my abilities. But never dice, cards, sports, horses, racing cars, etc. Yeah, I can see how compulsion and desperation play together a little too well. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/08/2019 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | blackwhite Quoting: xenophon The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary." Clearly evident from all sides There's definitely some level of self deception going on. With a smorgasbord of false narratives for people to self-indulge. Must be less work to pick a side and say "sure it is" than to take a step back and detach from the non-sense. Perhaps the fear of not being on a side is too much Make sense. Picking a side is probably easier than thinking, having to assert oneself, and - god help them - occasionally having to go against the flow. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 12/08/2019 06:42 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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User ID: 70736097 United States 12/08/2019 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it ego? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Is it the fear of being found out? Is it complete and utter immaturity? I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by. It's insecurity, in my opinion. I've always learned more from my mistakes than my successes. I'm not "pleased" when I err, but I'm willing to own it. Because what I "do" is not who I "am". Some folks think they ARE what they DO so any error, if admitted, reduces their sense of identity and self-esteem. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/08/2019 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it ego? Quoting: TlvmmCpoft Is it the fear of being found out? Is it complete and utter immaturity? I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by. It's insecurity, in my opinion. I've always learned more from my mistakes than my successes. I'm not "pleased" when I err, but I'm willing to own it. Because what I "do" is not who I "am". Some folks think they ARE what they DO so any error, if admitted, reduces their sense of identity and self-esteem. Yeah. I can see how insecurity would play a major role. The fear of looking like a failure, so they end up looking like a mega failure instead. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/08/2019 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe inflated egos are a coping mechanism that develops as a result of living in a world of questionable advice and bad products. When you can't build anything real, the only thing left to build is an inflated and unjustified sense of self worth. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/08/2019 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Endure crimes commit none . Live how you wish with confidence if this is so Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76963303 I think we need to move past the era of enduring crimes, and move into the era of not putting up with their shit if we ever want to move forward and not eternally backward. Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 12/08/2019 07:26 PM I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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