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What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?

 
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What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Is it ego?
Is it the fear of being found out?
Is it complete and utter immaturity?

I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Is it ego?
Is it the fear of being found out?
Is it complete and utter immaturity?

I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by.
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I've made some incredibly stupid mistakes; normally I am very aware.
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The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary."

Clearly evident from all sides
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Is it ego?
Is it the fear of being found out?
Is it complete and utter immaturity?

I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by.
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I've made some incredibly stupid mistakes; normally I am very aware.
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I feel like the stupid mistakes were invasive thoughts.
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
blackwhite

The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary."

Clearly evident from all sides
 Quoting: xenophon


There's definitely some level of self deception going on.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
If you've ever gambled with a group of people, you'll see the "mechanism" up close & personal. Many years ago I ran a dice game with friends, & learned a lot about this very thing.

When people are ahead, they get over-confident & almost always keep pushing till they lose it all. When they've lost it all, they delude themselves into thinking they can recover from it by doing more of the same.

It's a compulsion that shows you how freakin insane many people are. I never gamble anymore in games of chance because seeing it in others made me fear getting caught in that same trap. I do gamble in business but that's different - I'm betting on myself & my abilities. But never dice, cards, sports, horses, racing cars, etc.
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Yes, it's ego.
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blackwhite

The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary."

Clearly evident from all sides
 Quoting: xenophon


There's definitely some level of self deception going on.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


With a smorgasbord of false narratives for people to self-indulge. Must be less work to pick a side and say "sure it is" than to take a step back and detach from the non-sense. Perhaps the fear of not being on a side is too much
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Niburu, flat earth. Just a bunch of retards circle jerking themselves.
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blackwhite

The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary."

Clearly evident from all sides
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Twin peaks..
Ring a bell
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
If you've ever gambled with a group of people, you'll see the "mechanism" up close & personal. Many years ago I ran a dice game with friends, & learned a lot about this very thing.

When people are ahead, they get over-confident & almost always keep pushing till they lose it all. When they've lost it all, they delude themselves into thinking they can recover from it by doing more of the same.

It's a compulsion that shows you how freakin insane many people are. I never gamble anymore in games of chance because seeing it in others made me fear getting caught in that same trap. I do gamble in business but that's different - I'm betting on myself & my abilities. But never dice, cards, sports, horses, racing cars, etc.
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Yeah, I can see how compulsion and desperation play together a little too well.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
blackwhite

The ability to accept whatever "truth" the party puts out, no matter how absurd it may be. Orwell described it as "...loyal willingness to say black is white when party discipline demands this. It also means the ability to believethat black is white, and more, to knowblack is white, and forget that one has ever believed the contrary."

Clearly evident from all sides
 Quoting: xenophon


There's definitely some level of self deception going on.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


With a smorgasbord of false narratives for people to self-indulge. Must be less work to pick a side and say "sure it is" than to take a step back and detach from the non-sense. Perhaps the fear of not being on a side is too much
 Quoting: xenophon


Make sense.

Picking a side is probably easier than thinking, having to assert oneself, and - god help them - occasionally having to go against the flow.

Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 12/08/2019 06:42 PM
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Is it ego?
Is it the fear of being found out?
Is it complete and utter immaturity?

I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


It's insecurity, in my opinion. I've always learned more from my mistakes than my successes. I'm not "pleased" when I err, but I'm willing to own it. Because what I "do" is not who I "am".

Some folks think they ARE what they DO so any error, if admitted, reduces their sense of identity and self-esteem.
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
There are many but the notion of "confirmation bias" fits.

It is faulty inductive reasoning that interprets all new data in ways that reinforce existing biases or errors in thought and judgment.
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Is it ego?
Is it the fear of being found out?
Is it complete and utter immaturity?

I'm watching grown adults in "high" positions acting like a kid who just got caught stealing candy, decided to hide it behind his back, then it got caught in his hair, and now he's got a lollipop stuck to his face right in the middle of his forehead and he's screaming "No I don't, you're blind!" at everyone who walks by.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


It's insecurity, in my opinion. I've always learned more from my mistakes than my successes. I'm not "pleased" when I err, but I'm willing to own it. Because what I "do" is not who I "am".

Some folks think they ARE what they DO so any error, if admitted, reduces their sense of identity and self-esteem.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Yeah. I can see how insecurity would play a major role. The fear of looking like a failure, so they end up looking like a mega failure instead.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Twin peaks..
Ring a bell
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Never could get into that show.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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everyone's ego is too big
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Confidence
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
everyone's ego is too big
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Maybe inflated egos are a coping mechanism that develops as a result of living in a world of questionable advice and bad products.

When you can't build anything real, the only thing left to build is an inflated and unjustified sense of self worth.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
Confidence
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One does have to be confident to be wearing a mess on their face while telling people it doesn't exist.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Makes no cents why they act like that . I have cents so I like this setup
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Endure crimes commit none . Live how you wish with confidence if this is so
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Endure crimes commit none . Live how you wish with confidence if this is so
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I think we need to move past the era of enduring crimes, and move into the era of not putting up with their shit if we ever want to move forward and not eternally backward.

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loss of inhibition

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Re: What is the mental mechanism that makes people double down on stupid?
It's in their interest. You cant accept you are mortal. So you create religions that grant you your desire. It doesn't matter the outlandish claim, you dont die. Or a woman or man who isn't I interested in you. Etc. Etc. It never ends.
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belief in evolution





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