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U.S. Raises Age To 21 To Purchase Cigarettes

 
HarshingMyMellow

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12/19/2019 09:09 PM
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But they send you to war at 18?

Age of consent is what?

These all need to be one age.
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You can get drafted or join the military and kill people, you can vote and sign contracts; pose for adult content, and go to prison as an adult, but you cannot smoke. lol

Meanwhile the government hands out condoms to 6 yr olds, right?
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12/19/2019 09:13 PM
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Tobacco makes you less susceptible to mind control and hypnosis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72689961


True, nicotine is a cognitive enhancer, stress-reducer, and also neutralizes the effect of fluoride on the brain.

I guess they don't want college-age Americans smoking since universities are heavy-duty brainwashing centers.
 Quoting: BirdMom


It really is a decent nootropic, it's not so bad when you are vape nicotine, nothing like the 400+ chemicals in tobacco you are burning.

That's what's so strange about the FDA going against vaping, it's really not nearly as addictive, and proven by scientists to be 95% safer than tobacco.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76799292


It's actually a natural MAOI inhibitor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72689961


Then the pharmaceutical industry pushing psychotropics is probably a major driving force behind these anti-smoking laws the leftists have been pushing.
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12/19/2019 11:42 PM
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Human brain isn't fully developed until age 25.

Injecting poison before 21 is probably not a good idea anyway.
 Quoting: MissCleo


If you're old enough to vote, old enough to be drafted and shot in a war too, you're old enough to make up your own mind about what you want to drink, eat or smoke.
 Quoting: whispering leaves


Agreed. I didn't even know the smoking age had been raised to 18. The last I remembered, it was 16. I guess I've been out of the USA for too long.

It used to be that at age 16, you could smoke, drive, and get a job. At 18, you could get married, join the military, vote, live on your own, enter into contracts, etc.

I'm even old enough to remember when the individual states each had their own drinking age. For most of them, it was 18. In my state, you could buy wine and beer at 18, but had to be 21 to buy hard liquor.

In the '80s, the Fed changed the drinking age to 21 in all the states, and a lot of people thought it was really stupid since you became a legal adult at 18.

The reasoning was because there were a handful of states that insisted on having a drinking age of 21, then they complained that their 18-20 year olds were crossing state lines to party in the "sin states" and then dying in drunken car accidents on the way home. Instead of lowering their own drinking age, they lobbied to have the age raised in the neighboring states.
 Quoting: BirdMom


Honestly, I agree with everything you said. I would just like to emphasise that back in the day there were smoking areas in high schools.
This is why there is no ID requirement to purchase drugs down the street. And no hours of business. There are reasons why kids today choose to smoke weed and do other things. It may be illegal. But it may be for the best when it comes to options.
The fact you can join the Military and potentially be killed for your country but are restricted to purchase alcohol or tobacco is absolutely insane. Resolution is to make everything equal across the board.
Start with drivers license's then move on to liquor and drafting and voting and smoking. This is the day and age of universal rules of law.
Lets the Demo's start the partition and see how partisan this country really is.
 Quoting: uhftx


I remember smoking lounges in high schools. You could also drive a truck with a loaded gun rack in it to school and nobody would bat an eye.

You could open a bank account with nothing but a library card as ID. You could get on a plane without being searched, and your family members could accompany you all the way up to the gate even if they weren't flying. Things have changed a lot.

I think the government needs to decide what age is adulthood and then make drinking, marrying, voting, military service, etc. all legal at that age. If you are truly a legal adult, then the government has no business telling you that you can't drink a beer or smoke a cigarette.

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Éireann

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12/20/2019 02:43 AM
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Complete nonsense. The feds have no power to do that; it's up to the states individually what they want to do.
 Quoting: whispering leaves


I would normally agree with you, but as long as taxpayer dollars are going to pay for Medicaid and Obamacare, then good. Even private plans have to recoup the money paid out for treating smokers, so they raise everyone's premiums. I don't need to pay for the damage caused by other people's bad habits.

As long as I have to pay, I don't give a fuck if they raise the age to 75. If I don't have to pay for you, then knock yourself out, go chain smoke a whole carton for all I care.
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®

And...

That's how they get you to comply. Make the system so that everyone pays for everyone and suddenly they start banning things because people don't want to pay for it.

Gawd we're dumb sheeple.
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But they send you to war at 18?

Age of consent is what?

These all need to be one age.
 Quoting: HarshingMyMellow


They can get sent to war, but they can't buy alcohol til they're 21, so why not tobacco? Nicotine is a pretty bad drug to get addicted to, and age 18 - 20 is pretty damn young and naive yet.
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... then WHY is our military allowed to get 18 year old soldiers? ... shouldn't that also be changed???? ...
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Complete nonsense. The feds have no power to do that; it's up to the states individually what they want to do.
 Quoting: whispering leaves


While "Republicans" continue to be distracted by the Orange King, Congress is busy usurping crap loads of 10th Amendment issues like smoking age. Orange King is the distraction that Democrats could have ever asked for. It's almost like Orange King spent his entire life as a NYC liberal before running for President as a Republican! Oh, wait....
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How is this even close to a 10th amendment issue? Unless you live in maybe Virginia or North Carolina those cigarettes cross state lines which automatically make it an interstate commerce issue. 10th amendment doesn't apply because Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 of the US Constitution gives congress the ability to regulate that trade.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®


"Regulate" had a different definition under the commerce clause when it was written. It meant "to make regular/standard", not "to control". Same for the 2nd Amendment. To make STANDARD PRACTICE EVERYWHERE. The word regulate has been corrupted over the years from the original meaning. The purpose was so states weren't competing against each other for commerce within the country or with foreigners. It did NOT mean to give the feds the power to control every aspect of trade over state lines.

Besides, this DOES affect states that produce their own tobacco like NC and VA so it's still a violation of the 10th. Violating the 10th for a small section of the country is still a violation of the 10th and therefore applies to the whole country.





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