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Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?

 
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
You need radiant heating under the driveway. Never shovel again. It's 2020 man, keep up.
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fuck would you know about radiant heat in a drive way you live in spain!
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
Never use salt on concrete!
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This..

Use kitty litter instead then sweep it up later...it works well, the cheap kind
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
I'm in Wisconsin.
Let the precip stop, remove the snow, spread the ice melt.

Rather than "pre treat" which almost never works, it's better to simply get up an hour or two ahead of time and tackle it AFTER the precip is done.

We're getting ice tonight and about a foot of snow tomorrow. It ends tomorrow evening. I'll get at it Sunday morning bright and early.
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
They are advertising a product that you unroll onto your sidewalk and plug it in. Comes in various lengths. Claim it only costs pennies to use a day! Melts the snow away.
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try a dark colored tarp. no electricity needed, but works in daytime.


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then u fill it with water and make a parabola
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
Well if your in Wichita its all washed off now.
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It was lightly raining when I put it down in the drive.

Hoping I don't wake up to a sheet of ice. I live out in the country and its difficult to get in and out with ice.
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When the conditions are like that.....you should stay the fuck home.....just isn't worth it...
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Certainly will. But asking for advice. What do country folk do to prepare their driveways for ice and snow?
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Country folk don't have concrete slabs except for maybe patios or pole barns.

whatever
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It was lightly raining when I put it down in the drive.

Hoping I don't wake up to a sheet of ice. I live out in the country and its difficult to get in and out with ice.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


When the conditions are like that.....you should stay the fuck home.....just isn't worth it...
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Certainly will. But asking for advice. What do country folk do to prepare their driveways for ice and snow?
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


Country folk don't have concrete slabs except for maybe patios or pole barns.

whatever
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Yes we do!
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
You need radiant heating under the driveway. Never shovel again. It's 2020 man, keep up.
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fuck would you know about radiant heat in a drive way you live in spain!
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
Salt only works in certain temperatures

Ice melt can give a little mire range

From
Memory - salt only works at 21F and above

If you have weather in the 30’s - icing is a real danger and definitely SALT before it goes down to freezing

Heavy rain will wash it away - but salt again - it still might prevent a base of salt

Also depends upon the GROUND TEMPERATURE!

When the ground is still above freezing - not worried to salt - the rain/sleet/snow will melt

When the ground is already frozen - salt can help in paved areas to keep ice from forming

In like just cheap Halite - but use special paw safe mix if you have pets walking in the salted areas
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It was lightly raining when I put it down in the drive.

Hoping I don't wake up to a sheet of ice. I live out in the country and its difficult to get in and out with ice.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


When the conditions are like that.....you should stay the fuck home.....just isn't worth it...
 Quoting: Kilroywashere 78322311


Certainly will. But asking for advice. What do country folk do to prepare their driveways for ice and snow?
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


Country folk don't have concrete slabs except for maybe patios or pole barns.

whatever
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Country folk have gravel driveways that drain well - and 4-Wheel Drive!

We only salt the sidewalk and walkway - move the hot cars over ice spots to melt if they get thick -

Must use a snowblower or plow to remove slush and snow before it hardens up like concrete if it goes down below 20 F

Radiant heated driveways would be over $10,000!!!!

Forget that!
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
Well if your in Wichita its all washed off now.
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It was lightly raining when I put it down in the drive.

Hoping I don't wake up to a sheet of ice. I live out in the country and its difficult to get in and out with ice.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


We had the driveway from opposite of hell - long curved hilly deep freeze - and used to give the kids two ski poles to negotiate across the driveway to get to school . Ice used to get over four inches thick
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Re: Question for old timers. Pre salt before the snow and ice storm?
Well if your in Wichita its all washed off now.
 Quoting: Dodah


It was lightly raining when I put it down in the drive.

Hoping I don't wake up to a sheet of ice. I live out in the country and its difficult to get in and out with ice.
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


When the conditions are like that.....you should stay the fuck home.....just isn't worth it...
 Quoting: Kilroywashere 78322311


Certainly will. But asking for advice. What do country folk do to prepare their driveways for ice and snow?
 Quoting: KIT 76127092


If its raining it'll just wash the salt off. and you will have pissed away your money.

"Wisconinite" here:THERE IS NO "PRE-TREATMENT" FOR SNOW & ICE. You scrape off the snow: use an ice melter (salt or otherchemical)on icey spots. hopefully some direct sunlight will heat the uncovered black asphalt and clean it up for a while.

If you put salt down BEFORE IT SNOWS: it will melt the first bit of snow into a slurry. If the salt concentration is not high enough it will just freeze THE WET SLURRY into a sheet of ice.





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