DOSE: The Biochemical secret to Your Happiness !

You chose the most horrible examples of how to create oxytocin

Try hugging a puppy for starters.

DOSE are chemicals. They are DRUGS. Does this mean god is a drug pusher?

Yeah ns, that was the point of my post....people commit heinous acts and it makes them happy, what about the victim? are we going to tell that child 'your unhappiness comes from inside and you need to change the way you think in order to be happy'?
I say it again, happiness is subjective.
What makes you happy may make me unhappy and it shouldn't be up to me to just find my own happiness in order to counter your actions which make you happy.

Lol. Sorry bout that. Obviously that’s wrong. But let’s look closer. The trafficker is probably getting all the chemicals flowing. Right or wrong has nothing to do with these neurotransmitters. Those are just doing their jobs. The evil person has focused their thoughts for so long that they’re obsessed. Getting their target and doing hell knows what to the victim still sends the warm fuzzies to the evil one. They’ve built their “pathways” based on their dominating thoughts. So once their goal is achieved, I’m sure they’re flooding their mind with all 4 major chemicals. The victim too, is a thinking person. Just because someone forced them into a situation they don’t want doesn’t mean they can’t be happy too. POWs talk about escaping in their mind during torture going to their “happy place” and using the power of thought to escape trouble even if their body can’t.

Children aren’t wrong for not helping the attacker increase his chemical levels. If that’s the question. Or is the question “ are those children wrong for not trying to increase those chemical levels?” I’m assuming you meant the kids shouldn’t try to be happy during the ordeal of being taken, or the children shouldn’t help the attacker to be happy. Either way, this example, has been proven in the use of the art grooming. Convincing the kids they are happy over time. That way, everyone is sharing happiness chemicals together.
Let’s look at the first example since that last one is confounding in many levels.
“ What makes you happy, even by following your directions may impact someone else negatively”
Forcing yourself on someone, if that’s all you think about, will make you happy. Your victim has every right to say no. Because that doesn’t make them happy. We see this everyday in the real world. And the answer is the same as in the real world. You have no rights to anyone else on the planet. If you think you do, it’s time for you to change the thoughts or face the consequences. As far as Muslim countries, the culture grooms the children. So I’m assuming that yes, their levels rise with pleasure like everyone else. PS. To achieve the release of these hormones, it can be done without touching anyone including yourself.

Lol. Sorry bout that. Obviously that’s wrong. But let’s look closer. The trafficker is probably getting all the chemicals flowing. Right or wrong has nothing to do with these neurotransmitters. Those are just doing their jobs. The evil person has focused their thoughts for so long that they’re obsessed. Getting their target and doing hell knows what to the victim still sends the warm fuzzies to the evil one. They’ve built their “pathways” based on their dominating thoughts. So once their goal is achieved, I’m sure they’re flooding their mind with all 4 major chemicals. The victim too, is a thinking person. Just because someone forced them into a situation they don’t want doesn’t mean they can’t be happy too. POWs talk about escaping in their mind during torture going to their “happy place” and using the power of thought to escape trouble even if their body can’t.

Children aren’t wrong for not helping the attacker increase his chemical levels. If that’s the question. Or is the question “ are those children wrong for not trying to increase those chemical levels?” I’m assuming you meant the kids shouldn’t try to be happy during the ordeal of being taken, or the children shouldn’t help the attacker to be happy. Either way, this example, has been proven in the use of the art grooming. Convincing the kids they are happy over time. That way, everyone is sharing happiness chemicals together.
Let’s look at the first example since that last one is confounding in many levels.
“ What makes you happy, even by following your directions may impact someone else negatively”
Forcing yourself on someone, if that’s all you think about, will make you happy. Your victim has every right to say no. Because that doesn’t make them happy. We see this everyday in the real world. And the answer is the same as in the real world. You have no rights to anyone else on the planet. If you think you do, it’s time for you to change the thoughts or face the consequences. As far as Muslim countries, the culture grooms the children. So I’m assuming that yes, their levels rise with pleasure like everyone else. PS. To achieve the release of these hormones, it can be done without touching anyone including yourself.

They are not drugs. They are Hormones. God is a love pusher.

You contradict your self over and over and it's clear now you are a devout Christian pushing YOUR values of what's right and wrong, what makes you happy and doesn't.

People become power hungry because they become DESENSITISED to the things around them, desensitisation is subjective and will change your perspective on life changing what makes you happy and what doesn't.

Your understanding of the mind the mind is flawed and dictated by the society you are working so hard to get everyone to just accept by changing their chemical balances......typical religious bs

watch this bs and tell me that happiness is not subjective and or dictated by the society you live in.

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Being happy is up to you. That is what this thread is about. If you do the things that create the happiness chemicals you will be happy. That is entirely up to you and has nothing to do with a child rapist.

If you emotionlessly set out to produce those chemicals naturally you will notice that eventually you feel better.
All of these tasks play a part in what we've always seen as a good life. Exercising, making progress on and accomplishing pre set goals, having a social life, having a love life. Things like proper diet, sleep and education help too of course.

Happiness is not subjective. There is ample research in what causes you to feel pleasure, satisfaction, so on.

There is nothing stopping you from living this life except yourself.

The point I'm making is, the actions you take to make yourself happy, they may have a negative impact on other people. If your happiness comes from smoking but is killing the people around you, why is that ok?
it's not, happiness is subjective. What make you happy, doesn't necessarily make me happy. What causes your chemicals to balance may cause an imbalance in me, how is that ok?

Sorry to disappoint. I’m not religious at all. And if I was, it wouldn’t be western religion. I guess you gave me a warm fuzzy since I come across as non evil. At least I got that going for me:). I actually learned most of the mind stuff from two people. Dr Dougall McCorry in the UK. Dr Sadat Shamim in the US. Both study brain trauma and the function of transmitters. I’ve interviewed both of them for a story I wrote several years back. Dr Sadat is a genius and has changed my life.

I’m not even sure your last post was directed at me since I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. Except maybe that there is hope for anyone suffering from mental fatigue and illness.

Btw, changing chemical balances to get someone to accept society is almost the opposite of religious teachings. Religion requires faith and belief in someone other than yourself to help you grow. I’m pointing out that the human mind gets better at whatever it’s doing every single second. That’s not my opinion, it’s a fact. I haven’t pointed out what values of mine that are right or wrong or that make me happy. So I’m not sure what contradictions you’re talking about. Nor am I power hunger for anything. I’m quite content and grateful. It seems like you tagged me at complete opposite of everything I’ve said. Feel free to go over my statements from page 1.

Different societies have different laws, different laws decide what you can and cannot access, what you can and cannot access determines what makes you happy or not. Happiness is dictated by societal standards.

I'm not happy working my entire life with the illusion of working for myself, should I just quit to save my happiness and put the burden of life and it's demands on my partner and destroy her happiness in the process? then just show her this post and say, well happiness is on you, try doing these things to be happy....

Thanks 77786069. You said it better than I could in 5 pages.

you contradict yourself by making statements that can be argued with a simple example, i'm offering those examples and you just over look them.
What if I need to murder people to create those chemical balances? what if other peoples pain is what makes me happy?

People foolharditly believe that only the strength of their will and conviction of their beliefs can create true happiness like it's an entirely thought based process. What these people forget is that thoughts and feelings can not occur without a human body. "Spiritual" people feel like they must divorce themselves from their bodies, but these spiritual notions are produced by the brain, matter, the foundation of spiritualism. Like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

These people act like relying on DOSE is the same as doping, but that's like saying they can get by just fine without a body.

What is happiness? Happiness is none existant without the brain, so happiness is a felt phenomenon that occurs when the DOSE chemicals are produced. The genuine feeling of happiness and the DOSE chemicals are one in the same. You don't need to feel ashamed for being proped up by drugs, those drugs are literally YOU propping up YOURSELF. You are the dopamine.

The point I'm making is, the actions you take to make yourself happy, they may have a negative impact on other people. If your happiness comes from smoking but is killing the people around you, why is that ok?
it's not, happiness is subjective. What make you happy, doesn't necessarily make me happy. What causes your chemicals to balance may cause an imbalance in me, how is that ok?

I’m pointing out that you don’t have bother, annoy, touch or anything else to anybody and still increase these 4 hormones. I get that someone is happy smoking and that bothers someone else. But smoking isn’t on the list of things to make you happy.

Dopamine can be achieved by yourself by completing something as simple as taking the trash out. Accomplishing a chore.

Oxytocin can be produced right here with us having a reasonable calm discussion. Or in a chat room full of fans of your favorite sports team celebrating a huge win.

Serotonin can be available to you by just opening the window blinds and letting light in.

Endorphin can be attained just by telling a good joke. Or even reading a good one.

No one has to be bothered and happiness can be achieved. It’s up to each one of us on what we want. Personally, I’m a laughing machine.

Explain to me how this works in a world that forces collective ideology and destroyed individualism decades ago?

Then you are a sadist and possibly a psychopath. You will alienate yourself eventually, leading to sadness. Your question is like asking what if heroine makes you happy? Well it's understandable that heroine makes you happy, just like sadistic cruelty, narcissism, or dominance could understandably make you happy, but this is a short lived happiness that can not be cultivated indefinitely and will most likely lead to the destruction of your life, trading a short rush for far greater despair.

You gotta do the right thing to truly be happy. It's the only way.

sigh, everything just flies over your head....
I'm trying to ask, what about other peoples happiness? Lets make this a little more simple for you....are you a vegan?

I told you the answer. You don’t need to effect other people to be happy. You’re saying what if murder makes someone happy and I’m saying you don’t need to murder to be happy in the first place. But ok, let’s say it. The murderer will not be happy for long because they can’t keep murdering without suffering the consequences. Hence, not true happiness, just short term mentally ill happiness. If others pain makes you happy, then you’ll go around hurting others until you’re stopped. Then you won’t be happy anymore. And if you’re serious about these examples, you need to start following your therapists advise and start rewiring your brain. And you can rewire by following the path of millions before you by changing your thoughts.
The answer=thought change. Over and over and over. Use the DOSE chart in this thread that tells you exactly what thoughts you should think and how to implement them. New thoughts create new pathways. Repeating those thoughts makes the pathways stronger. Avoidance of unwanted thoughts causes those pathways to wither and fold.

I spend my existence trying to make other peoples lives better by opening the box of standard thinking.
But in the process, i'm destroying my own happiness.
What would make me happy is to the see a world of real equality while benefiting from a high quality of life, together...But, what makes others happy, makes me sad, isolation is dangerous, so, I could avoid the world and become even worse.
it funny that everyone has answers to everything they never experienced, have you ever experienced clinical depression?

So take the dangerous route of isolation then?
Please explain to me how your theory works in a world that forces collective ideology and removed individualism decades ago.

You obviously won't be happy burdening a loved one, so that's out of the question, but what are you suggesting? That you go unemployed? That won't make you happy. You won't be able to afford a comfortable living standard, you will feel anxious because you're not producing anything making yourself feel useless to society.

If anything what makes you happy is working to support this other person. Makes sense, it gives you purpose and having her in your life provides a source or social interaction and intimacy, so don't lose that.
Maybe you need to talk to her about you unhappiness. If she loves you she'll support you in finding a new, more fulfilling job. Take an adventure together. Open a small business, or buy a food truck or something and run it together.

I see now. There’s multiple conversations going on with all ACs. The dialogue is getting muddled.


Explain to me how this works in a world that forces collective ideology and destroyed individualism decades ago?


Maybe I’m lucky. I don’t live in that world. I never belonged to a collective and I always go my own way. My happiness does seem to annoy others. I got my hormone fix the wrong way. At first. Booze and smokes and hot babes always made me happy. As you guessed, it doesn’t last. It’s not the happy we are talking about here. We are talking about a happiness that won’t leave you or a happiness at the expense of others. I’m an old effer now. So that list that OP shared of DOSE, I discovered on my own just growing up. The simple pleasures and all. Growing up forced me to see that what I thought was happiness, just wasn’t true lasting happiness. I shaped up. Fell in love at first sight and made an awesome family. And the DOSE list became something I do everyday, all day. And now I’m preaching that anyone can have lasting happiness by following DOSE.

So you proved me right, happiness is an illusion dictated by society, completely subjective.
I'm miserable af in every job I work, I am diagnosed with clinical depression, so what should I do?
continue with the misery because not putting my partner through difficulty creates an illusion of happiness?
Continue because the 'comfortable living standard' (that is again dictated by the society you live in) creates an illusion of happiness?

Maybe I’m lucky. I don’t live in that world. I never belonged to a collective and I always go my own way. My happiness does seem to annoy others. I got my hormone fix the wrong way. At first. Booze and smokes and hot babes always made me happy. As you guessed, it doesn’t last. It’s not the happy we are talking about here. We are talking about a happiness that won’t leave you or a happiness at the expense of others. I’m an old effer now. So that list that OP shared of DOSE, I discovered on my own just growing up. The simple pleasures and all. Growing up forced me to see that what I thought was happiness, just wasn’t true lasting happiness. I shaped up. Fell in love at first sight and made an awesome family. And the DOSE list became something I do everyday, all day. And now I’m preaching that anyone can have lasting happiness by following DOSE.


Just read the answers with your quotes.

I'm not disagreeing that happiness comes from a balance of those chemicals and hormones.
I'm saying, what creates those differences is different in each person, that difference is decided by the society you grow up in, the leaders and elders who maintain the society they forced you in to.
What ever creates those balances in you, may not be the same things that create balance in me, in fact, the society I belong to dictates weather those things make me happy or sad.
They say you don't need money to be happy, it WAS true, 50 years ago.

But I love in a materialistic society that spent the first 18 years of my life telling me materialistic things will make me happy, my entire life is structured on that lie.
My entire surroundings are constructed on that lie.
Everything around me is everything I know, there is no where to go to escape it, camping is largely illegal in my country and tailor parks are exactly the same thing just on a lower living standard

Isolation came first after realizing I chased the wrong happiness. I started working out since I was still young and got into shape. From there I listed things I could change about me. Finished school. In shape. Found a shit job but it was at least a job. That’s when happiness really started. I was happy with my shape. Happy that I stood on my own feet. Happy that school was finally over. Eating dinner one night I saw this lady that just drew me to her. Moth to a flame. My happiness and confidence must’ve shown since she gave me her number. I mean who actually walks up to a stranger and just say “I’d like to know you”. At the time her answer was meaningless to me since I was just being me for the first time in my life. Working out, paying bills and surviving on my own. And I was rightly proud of that. No drinking, no drugs, no idiot and toxic friends. I didn’t know I was following DOSE at the time obviously. She saw something in me too. Life isn’t all happiness nor should it be but you should take control of what you can and you can change your thoughts. It’s a hard bitch to do it but once you start, it gets better every single second.