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But look into it. The blue guy was a moron, outside of the blue, has anyone died from silver?

Colloidal silver is a very effective pathogen neutralizer if not a killer. I get the metal idea, and wouldn't suggest inhaling it full strength at all. But I think a roughly 50/50 mix of CS with distilled water in a nebulizer would be a good thing.
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I have had heavy metal poisoning and would never, ever, inhale or ingest something like silver. It’s just effing stupid. There is no other way of putting it.
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Where is your basis for silver causing heavy metal poisoning though?

We use colloidal silver. I do not find it as effective as properly gram pos or gram neg antibiotic, but it does help for gargling for sore throats, cutting off heavy duty colds, and healing wounds that would otherwise need antibiotics.

I am fine with you being against it. Just interested in your line of reasoning via proof?

Hope you are feeling better! Seems you are...?
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Regarding the use of silver, I wonder if this is one of the reasons the price shot up last week?

I have to purchase some chemicals for my business with silver in them. Pricey stuff.

A bit of change in supply/demand could account for a big price increase.
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Silver WILL be over $200 in one year.

I have studied Silver for decades.

The main reason for price jumps right now ??

There is little available for Industry, OR Coinage.

It IS the ONE KEY ingredient in almost Everything.

Humanity has been consistently USING more of it than we produce,
World Wide, FOR Decades now.

To Wage War, to Build WAR Machines, you NEED Buttloads of it.

It IS one metal we have been allowing China//Russia to Hoard and accumulate

While USA has been pissing what we HAD away.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
While ALLOWING JP Morgan to Control most of it in the US.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 years ago

USA HAD 600 Million ounces....Now?

Virtually 00.

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SOUTH AFRICA ABOVE 500.000 CASES, SOUTH AFRICA IS NOW NUMBER 5

Number of corona infections in South Africa above 500,000

The number of infections found is at 503,290.

10,107 infections were added in the past 24 hours.


South Africa comes now Number 5.

Only the US, Brazil, India and Russia have more infections.


According to official figures, more than 8,000 people in South Africa have died from the corona virus.


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CURFEW-EVENING CLOCK MELBOURNE :
EVERYONE HAS TO STAY INSIDE BETWEEN 20.00h and 05.00h


Also curfew in Melbourne

The government of the Australian state of Victoria is going to tighten the lockdown in Melbourne to stop the increasing number of new infections there.


The city's five million residents are now only allowed to go outside for essential tasks such as groceries, care, and getting to work. Under the new measures, according to local media, they must remain within five kilometers of their home from Wednesday and only one person per household may do the shopping.

An evening clock is also introduced. Everyone has to stay inside between 20h and 5h. The curfew and other measures remain in effect for at least six weeks.

The number of new infections has increased in Melbourne in recent days, despite the previously implemented lockdown measures. Record numbers of new infections were reported last week. On Sunday, according to the Australian ABC News, 650 cases were added, compared to 397 on Saturday.

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WHO IS PREPARING FOR " VERY LONG " EPIDEMIC, THE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE FELT FOR DECADES

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WHO is preparing for a "very long" epidemic

The World Health Organization (WHO) Emergency Committee expects the corona pandemic to last "very long". That is why there is a need for sustainable strategies at regional, national and global level in the fight against Covid-19.

The WHO created the emergency committee, consisting of approximately 30 experts from various countries, at the beginning of this year. Shortly afterwards, advice was given to declare the coronavirus outbreak an "international emergency".

Saturday came the call to guard against generalized fatigue in the fight against the virus. Therefore, finely tuned and pragmatic guidelines are needed to arrive at an appropriate response to the outbreak, the experts said. It is important to get the younger generation on board in the fight against Covid-19, they believe.

WHO boss Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in a statement to the emergency committee that :

the corona pandemic is a health crisis as we only experience one per century.

The consequences will be felt for decades, it said.


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WE HAVE PASSED 18.000.000 CASES WORLDWIDE

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UK: Everyone aged 50 to 70 may be forced to stay at home in the event of a second wave according to the Daily Mail;

Millions of overs 50s could be given orders to stay at home as part of Boris Johnson's 'nuclear plans' to avoid another national lockdown.

In a more 'segmented approach' to dealing with future lockdowns, people aged between 50 and 70 would be given personalised risk ratings - taking into accounts factors like their age and conditions - and asked to shield in the event of an outbreak.

This is going to be an ongoing situation for many years, why not early retire everyone over 50 years old?

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UK: Everyone aged 50 to 70 may be forced to stay at home in the event of a second wave according to the Daily Mail;

Millions of overs 50s could be given orders to stay at home as part of Boris Johnson's 'nuclear plans' to avoid another national lockdown.

In a more 'segmented approach' to dealing with future lockdowns, people aged between 50 and 70 would be given personalised risk ratings - taking into accounts factors like their age and conditions - and asked to shield in the event of an outbreak.

This is going to be an ongoing situation for many years, why not early retire everyone over 50 years old?

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The more I think about, the more this plan makes sense.

From my experience, a man doesn't really master his trade until he turns 50, so we should protect the people with the highest skills. Above 70, well, diminishing mental and physical strengths take their toll.

Protecting the people that can jumpstart the country after this is all over is a good idea.

Also, the over 50 crowd is generally not going to riot if quarantined.
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Bastecat is definitely losing power tonight at the rate they are getting started....

Hugs and prayers.

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Actually the storm is losing power, thankfully! Downgraded to tropical storm...

I would have posted earlier but husband decided to “celebrate” while I was in the shower and gave himself some cognac that did not agree with him. So I was busy there for awhile flushing the tube...he’s okay...wanted me to watch “From Here to Eternity” with him on PBS...

So I took some clips and made a minute video from today...Bastetcat sunning herself; at the stoplight at MilitaryTrail and Okeechobee Blvd as a band was coming towards us from the east—I decided to film it as we were at the light for HB...you can see the Hustler store and the billboard for Spearmint Rhino that is kind of behind the Hustler store; also FYI this intersection is #1 in PBC and I think in top 5 in the state for accidents due to red light runners and pedestrians crossing when they shouldn’t.. this was about 4:10 this afternoon and we were winding up our “errands” and a big old frog was trying to come in my patio door until I came up with camera...I filmed him anyway to show how much rain we were getting...

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So hopefully this storm will continue to self-destruct....
This is a “cry wolf” storm that will cause people to let their guard down for the next one...we were ready, and I am grateful it hasn’t been so bad...

BTW, horseradish sauce added to Cole slaw is yummy, just saying...

I heard on local news 150 people went to local schools opened as shelters...curious to see if anyone was positive or gets sick because of going to the shelter...
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Ah, I miss it down there! My grandparents lived in Jamaica Bay at the corner of Military Trail and Gateway Dr. Looks like a lot of traffic out for it to be summer with a storm coming! Some snowbirds must still be down there.

Hope y'all fared well overnight.
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Millions of over 50s could be told to stay at home under 'nuclear plans' drawn up by Boris Johnson after bubble bursts on easing lockdown

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Fantastic,in my workgroup of ten,only two would be at work then, as everyone is over 50.
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UK: Everyone aged 50 to 70 may be forced to stay at home in the event of a second wave according to the Daily Mail;

Millions of overs 50s could be given orders to stay at home as part of Boris Johnson's 'nuclear plans' to avoid another national lockdown.

In a more 'segmented approach' to dealing with future lockdowns, people aged between 50 and 70 would be given personalised risk ratings - taking into accounts factors like their age and conditions - and asked to shield in the event of an outbreak.

This is going to be an ongoing situation for many years, why not early retire everyone over 50 years old?

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50? They are going to lose a shit ton of experienced health care workers. Sure, the younger workers right out of school are bodies to fill positions, but the knowledge base is not there unitl you've been a nurse for at least 5-10 years. I mean, critical thinking staying two steps ahead of the illness type experience/knowledge.
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UK: Everyone aged 50 to 70 may be forced to stay at home in the event of a second wave according to the Daily Mail;

Millions of overs 50s could be given orders to stay at home as part of Boris Johnson's 'nuclear plans' to avoid another national lockdown.

In a more 'segmented approach' to dealing with future lockdowns, people aged between 50 and 70 would be given personalised risk ratings - taking into accounts factors like their age and conditions - and asked to shield in the event of an outbreak.

This is going to be an ongoing situation for many years, why not early retire everyone over 50 years old?

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The more I think about, the more this plan makes sense.

From my experience, a man doesn't really master his trade until he turns 50, so we should protect the people with the highest skills. Above 70, well, diminishing mental and physical strengths take their toll.

Protecting the people that can jumpstart the country after this is all over is a good idea.

Also, the over 50 crowd is generally not going to riot if quarantined.
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I'd suggest that agreeing with this sort of "it's for the best" sort of idea is the first step on what can rapidly become a steep and slippery slope.

Rest assured that when your characteristics are suggested for isolation, etc. that there will be any number of people happy to chime in that "this next part of the plan makes sense"...

Governments are quicker to put forth plans that benefit them before thinking of the longer term implications for those they supposedly serve.
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UK: Everyone aged 50 to 70 may be forced to stay at home in the event of a second wave according to the Daily Mail;

Millions of overs 50s could be given orders to stay at home as part of Boris Johnson's 'nuclear plans' to avoid another national lockdown.

In a more 'segmented approach' to dealing with future lockdowns, people aged between 50 and 70 would be given personalised risk ratings - taking into accounts factors like their age and conditions - and asked to shield in the event of an outbreak.

This is going to be an ongoing situation for many years, why not early retire everyone over 50 years old?

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With a plan to replace them, how does that work with hospital consultants, GPs and others who have years of experience and have to do years of training?
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it won't be an age thing, it'll be any reason they want to use to keep people home

trump got rid of the Global Health Security Unit which was designed for pandemics in 2018

but in September 2019 he signed the Modernization of Influenza executive order which made influenza a threat to national security and created the National Vaccine Task Force with the military in charge

unlike the Global Health Security Unit which was designed to respond to a pandemic, this EO is about how to round you up and get you vaccinated

if the flu is a threat to national security then Covid 19 certainly is or worse, they'll use the "national security threat" which they can basically apply anywhere to anyone, to keep people home and inactive

so trust the plan, it has been in place for over a year at least
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Scientists study coronavirus outbreaks among minks in Europe

Coronavirus outbreaks at mink farms in Spain and the Netherlands have scientists digging into how the animals got infected and if they can spread it to people....

...authorities have killed more than 1 million minks at breeding farms in both countries as a precaution.

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Scotland cluster linked to pub

A cluster of 13 cases of Covid-19 linked to a pub in Aberdeen is being investigated by public health officials.

All those who tested positive are showing only mild symptoms, though the health board said there may be further cases linked to the cluster.


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Antibody tests do not pick up people who had mild coronavirus, Oxford study suggests

A study of more than 9,000 healthcare workers suggested significant numbers were getting negative results, despite probably having had Covid

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Millions of over 50s could be told to stay at home under 'nuclear plans' drawn up by Boris Johnson after bubble bursts on easing lockdown

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Fantastic,in my workgroup of ten,only two would be at work then, as everyone is over 50.
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This will be interesting. More jobs for the yougins.... will quickly show how important that braintrust is.

What are they going to do about doctors? Nurses?

Nuclear is right.


Bastecat, I hope the storm stayed the less energy path. Haven’t looked yet.

And good morning, all.
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UK: Everyone aged 50 to 70 may be forced to stay at home in the event of a second wave according to the Daily Mail;

Millions of overs 50s could be given orders to stay at home as part of Boris Johnson's 'nuclear plans' to avoid another national lockdown.

In a more 'segmented approach' to dealing with future lockdowns, people aged between 50 and 70 would be given personalised risk ratings - taking into accounts factors like their age and conditions - and asked to shield in the event of an outbreak.

This is going to be an ongoing situation for many years, why not early retire everyone over 50 years old?

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50? They are going to lose a shit ton of experienced health care workers. Sure, the younger workers right out of school are bodies to fill positions, but the knowledge base is not there unitl you've been a nurse for at least 5-10 years. I mean, critical thinking staying two steps ahead of the illness type experience/knowledge.
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:)

Even in other places..... electrical, sewer, anything infrastructure related.
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FDA's list of hand sanitizers to avoid grows again with more than 100 identified that may contain methanol

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This will be interesting. More jobs for the yougins.... will quickly show how important that braintrust is.

What are they going to do about doctors? Nurses?

Nuclear is right.


Bastecat, I hope the storm stayed the less energy path. Haven’t looked yet.

And good morning, all.


more jobs for the youngins but without the experience, wonder how that will go, at least at first.Be chaos, I imagine.
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This will be interesting. More jobs for the yougins.... will quickly show how important that braintrust is.

What are they going to do about doctors? Nurses?

Nuclear is right.


Bastecat, I hope the storm stayed the less energy path. Haven’t looked yet.

And good morning, all.
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more jobs for the youngins but without the experience, wonder how that will go, at least at first.Be chaos, I imagine.


********

Not just chaos. Fucking mayhem.....

Especially anyone public school educated in the past two decades. I can’t imagine even imagine all the problems the gimmies will cause.
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Snuffie!

Splashdown might be at 1140 am now.... instead of 2:43 pm eastern time.



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Canary Wharf of London has told its staff back to come back to offices, bringing an end to work-at-home, citing concerns that they cannot thrive without office interaction

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How quickly people let their guard down
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Canary Wharf of London has told its staff back to come back to offices, bringing an end to work-at-home, citing concerns that they cannot thrive without office interaction

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How quickly people let their guard down
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Yep. What’s even worse.....office interaction? They had months to come up with solutions.
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By any means necessary.....

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China was staying silver laced hypochlorous acid as the primary fogging agent.

It's been trialled here and it's a fucking game changer.
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I have a cheap hypochlorous acid maker in my Amazon cart. Even if it breaks after eight uses it’s cheaper than buying it by the gallon.

Not a fan, at all, of all this inhaling and ingesting of silver, though. It’s a heavy metal, man. Should be left out of the formula.
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Okay. I throw the towel in.

How did we even make it to the space age ?
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Making it into space was secondary to the true goal of being able to lob a missile with a 20 MT nuclear warhead halfway around the world.
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Riff. Was just thinking about ya.... how are you and Raffette enjoying your less stress week?

And then on a sad note, the American Diabetes’s Association lost an amazing advocate

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This coughing phenomenon is insane

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SOUTH AFRICA ABOVE 500.000 CASES, SOUTH AFRICA IS NOW NUMBER 5

Number of bullshit infections in South Africa above 500,000

The number of bullshit infections found is at 503,290.

10,107 bullshit infections were added in the past 24 hours.


South Africa comes now Number 5 in terms of complete bullshit.

Only the US, Brazil, India and Russia have more loads of utter bullshit.


According to official spreader of the bullshit, more than 8,000 people in South Africa have died from the bullshit .


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EVERYONE HAS TO STAY INSIDE BETWEEN 20.00h and 05.00hcause of complete bullshit


Also curfew in Melbourne

The government fuckheads of the Australian state of Victoria is going to tighten the lockdown in Melbourne to stop the increasing number of new bullshits there.


The city's five million residents are now only allowed to go outside for essential tasks such as groceries, care, and getting to work. Under the new measures, according to local media, they must remain within five kilometers of their home from Wednesday and only one person per household may do the shopping.

An evening clock is also introduced. Everyone has to stay inside between 20h and 5h. The curfew and other measures remain in effect for at least six weeks.

The number of new bullshits has increased in Melbourne in recent days, despite the previously implemented lockdown measures. Record numbers of new bullshits were reported last week. On Sunday, according to the Australian ABC News, 650 cases were added, compared to 397 on Saturday.

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WHO IS PREPARING FOR " VERY LONG " EPIDEMIC OF COMPLETE SHIT, THE CONSEQUENCES WILL BE FELT FOR DECADES

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WHO is preparing for a "very long" epidemic of utter shit

The World Health Organization (Wipe Humanity Ouy) Emergency Committee expects the bullshit pandemic to last "very long". That is why there is a need for sustainable strategies at regional, national and global level in the fight against the loads of shit.

The WHO created the emergency committee of total crap, consisting of approximately 30 experts
In complete and utter shit from various countries, at the beginning of this year. Shortly afterwards, advice was given to declare the bullshit outbreak an "international emergency of complete bullshit".

Saturday came the call to guard against generalized bullshit in the fight against the bigger bullshits. Therefore, finely tuned and pragmatic guidelines are needed to arrive at an appropriate response to the outbreak, the experts in total shit said. It is important to get the younger generation on board in the fight against the endless shit, they believe.

WHO boss Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in a statement to the emergency committee that :

the bullshit pandemic is a lot of shit crisis as we only experience one per century.

The consequences will be felt for decades, it said.


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Article Source, Belgian paper HLN

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Then there is nothing to discuss is there? Consult with a doctor familiar with your medical history before taking it, people with specific conditions can have severe reactions.

You're probably better off with gummy bears though, not the sugar free one's those give you constipation.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


What is your beef against HCQ? Answer, please.

I am not doing gummi bears. We don't eat pork and the kosher aren't readily available.

There is one gene sequence that is less than one half of one percent of people that has issues. That's it. What else?
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


That it fails to show efficacy in any controlled (control group vs studied group that are actually comparable) study performed, but you said before that you only trust your studies so there is no point in discussing it.
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Dutchy, for real? Control groups and double blind studies against Sars Cov2?

No room for evidence based things in your paradigm?

I can agree to disagree.

I cannot agree that we have no capacity to mount defense against this.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Evidence (suggests effect) -> studies (prove effect, account for causation of effect) -> conclusions. If the studies don't back up evidence -- which has been anecdotal at best -- then we can't randomly assume a causal relationship because it feels good to do so.

Here's a list:

A Randomized Trial of Hydroxychloroquine as Postexposure Prophylaxis for Covid-19
[link to www.nejm.org (secure)]

"We conducted a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial across the United States and parts of Canada testing hydroxychloroquine as postexposure prophylaxis... We enrolled 821 asymptomatic participants. Overall, 87.6% of the participants (719 of 821) reported a high-risk exposure to a confirmed Covid-19 contact. The incidence of new illness compatible with Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants receiving hydroxychloroquine (49 of 414 [11.8%]) and those receiving placebo (58 of 407 [14.3%])."

Effect of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with COVID-19: Preliminary results from a multi-centre, randomized, controlled trial.
[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

"The primary outcome was 28-day mortality. Results: 1561 patients randomly allocated to receive hydroxychloroquine were compared with 3155 patients concurrently allocated to usual care. Overall, 418 (26.8%) patients allocated hydroxychloroquine and 788 (25.0%) patients allocated usual care died within 28 days (rate ratio 1.09; 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.96 to 1.23; P=0.18)."

Hydroxychloroquine in Nonhospitalized Adults With Early COVID-19
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"Medication adverse effects occurred in 43% (92 of 212) of participants receiving hydroxychloroquine versus 22% (46 of 211) receiving placebo (P < 0.001). With placebo, 10 hospitalizations occurred (2 non–COVID-19–related), including 1 hospitalized death. With hydroxychloroquine, 4 hospitalizations occurred plus 1 nonhospitalized death (P = 0.29)."

Statement from the Chief Investigators of the Randomised Evaluation of COVid-19 thERapY (RECOVERY) Trial on hydroxychloroquine, 5 June 2020
[link to www.recoverytrial.net (secure)]

"A total of 1542 patients were randomised to hydroxychloroquine and compared with 3132 patients randomised to usual care alone. There was no significant difference in the primary endpoint of 28-day mortality (25.7% hydroxychloroquine vs. 23.5% usual care; hazard ratio 1.11 [95% confidence interval 0.98-1.26]; p=0.10). There was also no evidence of beneficial effects on hospital stay duration or other outcomes."

And there are more out there. In the end if you want believe your anecdotal evidence over properly conducted studies then please do so.

I am not saying there is no way mount a defense against this, but it would be nice if we can stop wasting time on HCQ to find things that actually work. It's mostly being sold as a quick solution to a complicated problem for which there are no quick solutions. I'm always open to seeing more studies but the probability of the conclusions changing are becoming minute and without proper explanation as to why the body of evidence existent needs to be ignored, dubious.
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Marathon Petroleum Won’t Restart Two Idled Oil Refineries

Marathon Petroleum Corp, the largest U.S. independent oil refiner, said it won’t restart two refineries in California and New Mexico amid concerns that demand for fuels is unlikely to return to pre-pandemic levels this year.

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Don’t miss this article.
California gasoline demand is at 60% pre-Covid levels.

Gasoline demand in California, the state with the most registered vehicles in the country, is about 60 percent of pre-Covid levels, according to California Fuels and Convenience..

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