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A friend of ours stopped by for a few minutes today to tell my husband that someone in our condo complex (not my building) passed from Covid. It was a guy I didn't know, but hubs knew well, sadly....

Our friend said the guy---I'm guessing was in 60s or 70s, had uncontrollable bleeding in his body, apparently widespread--he said they thought it started in the kidneys. Family members told him it was a "weird" form of Covid--I said, do you mean a "variant" ? "Yes, that's the word they used."

He wasn't sure if there was clotting also or not.

Thoughts as to which variant with (bleeding in the kidneys) the poor guy had? Sorry I can't keep up with all threads these days to figure it out--grateful for your help.

I asked the friend to let us know if he found out.

Also, just putting this out there--has anyone seen if invermectin is effective if it is a variant version?


BTW, if I didn't mention it before, hubs tested negative for Covid when in the ER.

The primary dr called yesterday for followup and said they have no idea what caused the blood pressure spike.

PS--Cleaned vacuum cleaner filters clogged up today. No question about wearing a mask to do that, lol! Little things like keeping that clean I believe make a difference...
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Sorry for the loss of your friend Bastetcat. Hope you guys are doing better. Happy Spring to us all. Thanks too for the green!
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hf

More thoughts to my hubby...he was friends with the deceased for like a decade....

I sincerely hope the UK gets back to normal....

This whole thing is so weird...FL hospitals should be overwhelmed but they aren’t...yet..l.am concerned with all this research on variants they will spring something else on us....sigh...

And kudos to all posting news I am really grateful for your efforts!
Life finds a way.
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BREAKING.....

UK Covid deaths just 10 for second day in a row as UK records 2,297 infections.

More fantastic news here in the UK...

uk
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UK Covid deaths just 10 for second day in a row as UK records 2,297 infections.

More fantastic news here in the UK...

uk
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You need to End flights and deploy the royal navy to shoot at anything that crosses the channel.
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A friend of ours stopped by for a few minutes today to tell my husband that someone in our condo complex (not my building) passed from Covid. It was a guy I didn't know, but hubs knew well, sadly....

Our friend said the guy---I'm guessing was in 60s or 70s, had uncontrollable bleeding in his body, apparently widespread--he said they thought it started in the kidneys. Family members told him it was a "weird" form of Covid--I said, do you mean a "variant" ? "Yes, that's the word they used."

He wasn't sure if there was clotting also or not.

Thoughts as to which variant with (bleeding in the kidneys) the poor guy had? Sorry I can't keep up with all threads these days to figure it out--grateful for your help.

I asked the friend to let us know if he found out.

Also, just putting this out there--has anyone seen if invermectin is effective if it is a variant version?


BTW, if I didn't mention it before, hubs tested negative for Covid when in the ER.

The primary dr called yesterday for followup and said they have no idea what caused the blood pressure spike.

PS--Cleaned vacuum cleaner filters clogged up today. No question about wearing a mask to do that, lol! Little things like keeping that clean I believe make a difference...
 Quoting: Bastetcat


Sorry for the loss of your friend Bastetcat. Hope you guys are doing better. Happy Spring to us all. Thanks too for the green!
 Quoting: Dosha


hf

More thoughts to my hubby...he was friends with the deceased for like a decade....

I sincerely hope the UK gets back to normal....

This whole thing is so weird...FL hospitals should be overwhelmed but they aren’t...yet..l.am concerned with all this research on variants they will spring something else on us....sigh...

And kudos to all posting news I am really grateful for your efforts!
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Look man florida extremely unique. The extreme heat, UV light and lack of cloud cover make it very difficult for the virus to survive on any surface or anything for 9 months out of year. .

Its not like brazil where cloud cover and tropical canopy exists, Florida sun is real and UV light kills viruses.

You will never have a major outbreak in florida like you would see in Sao Paolo, Wuhan or Rome simply because of the Sun issue. Florida is also unironically the skin cancer capital of the world because you practically are living under a tanning lamp

Not to say we dont have cases, we DO but they are harder to transmit and if you travel back in time and ask any floridian about Influenza, well it was Rare then also.

The sun is your friend

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BREAKING.....

UK Covid deaths just 10 for second day in a row as UK records 2,297 infections.

More fantastic news here in the UK...
 Quoting: Jim6152

It's not going away, Jim.

Tell you what:

run the spike protein sequence (from here):
[link to www.uniprot.org (secure)]

through the PLAAC algorithm here:
[link to plaac.wi.mit.edu (secure)]
(you only need the Amino Acid sequence, not the header! AND remove all spaces ' '!!)

See that red bump at position 500 for the PrD line?
That's a PRION GENESIS SITE.

Then, remember ALL the vaccines either have the spike, or get your cells to make the spike via mRNA...
Then, remember the spikes --alone-- can cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice

Now consider what might have happened to the rhesus monkeys:

[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
SARS-CoV-2 causes brain inflammation and Lewy bodies, a hallmark for Parkinson, after an asymptomatic infection in macaques.
As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

In the Rhesus monkey study, ALL of them got Lewy Bodies after infection. ALL OF THEM.
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BREAKING.....

UK Covid deaths just 10 for second day in a row as UK records 2,297 infections.

More fantastic news here in the UK...
 Quoting: Jim6152

It's not going away, Jim.

Tell you what:

run the spike protein sequence (from here):
[link to www.uniprot.org (secure)]

through the PLAAC algorithm here:
[link to plaac.wi.mit.edu (secure)]
(you only need the Amino Acid sequence, not the header! AND remove all spaces ' '!!)

See that red bump at position 500 for the PrD line?
That's a PRION GENESIS SITE.

Then, remember ALL the vaccines either have the spike, or get your cells to make the spike via mRNA...
Then, remember the spikes --alone-- can cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice

Now consider what might have happened to the rhesus monkeys:

[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
SARS-CoV-2 causes brain inflammation and Lewy bodies, a hallmark for Parkinson, after an asymptomatic infection in macaques.
As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

In the Rhesus monkey study, ALL of them got Lewy Bodies after infection. ALL OF THEM.
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You can by all means keep posting up this drivel but until it's in the BMJ and Lancet it's just another research paper not peer reviewed. Seen loads of them on hear since the beginning saying all kinds of shit about the S1 spike protein.

I'll stick to the facts and enjoy the UK beating Covid with our safe and effective vaccines

Meanwhile in the EU...LMAO!!
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I am extremely alarmed by the Prion talk...there's some legitimate information backing this but you already know that people are not going to touch this with a 10,000 mile stick because it basically means hundreds of millions are going to die because of our own action


Don't expect anyone to pick up on that story until bodies hit the floor. If you are waiting on "Lancet" or "AMA" to pick this up You know and I know the first papers that start posting this the black helicopters will show up and things will be retracted at midnight


Theres evidence, its scant but there is evidence. Im not a believer but if its real that will be irrelevant.


On that note, you realize UK is at the end of a wave correct? The Vaccines have nothing to do with the drop in cases...the Proof will be when a new wave arrives.

I wouldn't celebrate. Your Safe and effective vaccines are working nowhere else except against last years strains..which unironically are from last year and you had immunity for them naturally anyway and are helpless against the strains that are coming.




In closing: Your fucked like the rest of us

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Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
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uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
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Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
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Truly crimes against humanity. Inexcusable.
 Quoting: Dosha


Wow!
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uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
 Quoting: Jim6152

Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
 Quoting: S-man


Yet nothing you have claimed is being played out in the ground here in the UK with our world leading genome capabilities and having major vaccine resources Oxford have already said any mutations that come along wont be an issue they will just adjust the vaccines.

Also the current vaccines work against all the variants with the Kent Variant declared this week by PHE as being no worse than the original virus.

You can keep quoting random universities...they are 10 a penny and we've seen it here...its their opinion and loads have already got it wrong.

The Kent variant was around in Sep 2020....yet it hasn't more deadly than the original varient and the vaccines work against it.

Case closed.
 Quoting: Jim6152


Whilst I admire your optimism Jim, I think we have long way yet to go before declaring victory over this virus.

Yes the vaccine will help, but there are many other factors at play, the vaccine is the first of many steps needed to return to normal times...
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Dave Allen RIP great subtle comedic genius. Sorry, I thought I was being a little bit funny with the nuclear thing, trying to be bubble gum dismissive, It did not go well. Apparently not. Oh well. As I keep hearing "It is what it is"

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BREAKING.....

UK Covid deaths just 10 for second day in a row as UK records 2,297 infections.

More fantastic news here in the UK...
 Quoting: Jim6152

It's not going away, Jim.

Tell you what:

run the spike protein sequence (from here):
[link to www.uniprot.org (secure)]

through the PLAAC algorithm here:
[link to plaac.wi.mit.edu (secure)]
(you only need the Amino Acid sequence, not the header! AND remove all spaces ' '!!)

See that red bump at position 500 for the PrD line?
That's a PRION GENESIS SITE.

Then, remember ALL the vaccines either have the spike, or get your cells to make the spike via mRNA...
Then, remember the spikes --alone-- can cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice

Now consider what might have happened to the rhesus monkeys:

[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
SARS-CoV-2 causes brain inflammation and Lewy bodies, a hallmark for Parkinson, after an asymptomatic infection in macaques.
As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

In the Rhesus monkey study, ALL of them got Lewy Bodies after infection. ALL OF THEM.
 Quoting: S-man


the MRna Sequence is more than likely teh one to fix a protein shell around the Iron Oxide , derived from the [spanish flu] aka Covid 19 Rna sequence.. and thus it is a Causative factor .. iin addition to toxic additives and sterilization [ a "Cocktail]

the Herb Ashwaganda , dissolves this protein shell , and thus has a Alzheimer's retardation effect, [Altzhemiers is caused by the same RNA aas covid/S Flu, adn fixates Iron Oxide in teh brain , which is covered in a protein shell..
this state is alzheimer's .. and like COvid/Spanish Flu/ is easily mutated out by Quinine and d Zinc Picolinate.. soo..
treatment wil ll beat all
The Ebola RNA variant has to be delivered.. and wont have much effect.. it think this one is in the bag..

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protocol.. Ashwaganda and Deep Sea Fish Oli / retardation of Alzheimer's.. and Quinine and Zinc is in cellular mutation of Spanish Flu [ thus Tonic water and Zinc Pennies] .. execute science and drain the fear .. there is much worse to worry about..
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Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
 Quoting: S-man


Yet nothing you have claimed is being played out in the ground here in the UK with our world leading genome capabilities and having major vaccine resources Oxford have already said any mutations that come along wont be an issue they will just adjust the vaccines.

Also the current vaccines work against all the variants with the Kent Variant declared this week by PHE as being no worse than the original virus.

You can keep quoting random universities...they are 10 a penny and we've seen it here...its their opinion and loads have already got it wrong.

The Kent variant was around in Sep 2020....yet it hasn't more deadly than the original varient and the vaccines work against it.

Case closed.
 Quoting: Jim6152


Whilst I admire your optimism Jim, I think we have long way yet to go before declaring victory over this virus.

Yes the vaccine will help, but there are many other factors at play, the vaccine is the first of many steps needed to return to normal times...
allan 2222
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Dave Allen RIP great subtle comedic genius. Sorry, I thought I was being a little bit funny with the nuclear thing, trying to be bubble gum dismissive, It did not go well. Apparently not. Oh well. As I keep hearing "It is what it is"
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You're right Largo, Dave Allen was a comic genius, the era of non woke comedy, a time when you could make fun of anything and everything!

As for the nuclear thing, who cares my friend..
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I am extremely alarmed by the Prion talk...there's some legitimate information backing this but you already know that people are not going to touch this with a 10,000 mile stick because it basically means hundreds of millions are going to die because of our own action


Don't expect anyone to pick up on that story until bodies hit the floor. If you are waiting on "Lancet" or "AMA" to pick this up You know and I know the first papers that start posting this the black helicopters will show up and things will be retracted at midnight


Theres evidence, its scant but there is evidence. Im not a believer but if its real that will be irrelevant.


On that note, you realize UK is at the end of a wave correct? The Vaccines have nothing to do with the drop in cases...the Proof will be when a new wave arrives.

I wouldn't celebrate. Your Safe and effective vaccines are working nowhere else except against last years strains..which unironically are from last year and you had immunity for them naturally anyway and are helpless against the strains that are coming.




In closing: Your fucked like the rest of us
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epiclol

You my friend are in the perfect place....a conspiracy nightmare and I'll rsisenmy glass for the laughs you just gave me with this post.

Tell us sage one...what strains are coming and of course the Billion £££ new centre of diseases currently going online wont of course be on the lookout for these new strains along with Porton Down and Oxford have just downed tools now the 1st gen vaccine is here.

HA HA HA HA!!!
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uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
 Quoting: Jim6152

Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
 Quoting: S-man


Truly crimes against humanity. Inexcusable.
 Quoting: Dosha


Wow!
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Yep I did the same...WOW - What utter bollocks!
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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

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uk
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Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
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uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
 Quoting: Jim6152

Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
 Quoting: S-man



Oh look. The Lancet just blew this out of the water.

I suggest you stick with the REAL science and not the ten a penny scientists wanting their moment in the spotlight.

I cant wait to prove you utterly wrong.
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Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
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uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
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Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
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Oh look. The Lancet just blew this out of the water.

I suggest you stick with the REAL science and not the ten a penny scientists wanting their moment in the spotlight.

I cant wait to prove you utterly wrong.
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The Lancet -

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]
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Oh look. The Lancet just blew this out of the water.

I suggest you stick with the REAL science and not the ten a penny scientists wanting their moment in the spotlight.

I cant wait to prove you utterly wrong.
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The Lancet -
[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]
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Jim, if the vaccine does not sterilise or stop transmission, then the scatter-gun mutations which escape the vaccine will be the ones to 'survive' and transmit.
Use your noggin!

PS - the prion stuff is verifiable by yourself, and entirely plausible. Prion-warfare has been researched and this shows us the acute phase of 'flu' is simply the cover.. the real payload is likely the neuro-degenerative diseases in 1-2yrs time.

Go ahead, though, get youself a dose of those prion-genesis sites. They will distribute throughout your body from the muscular injection site and cross just fine from your blood into your CNS.

EDIT: you can't fight this with 'vaccines' which don't stop virus replication or transmission to new hosts. You need sterilising drugs.

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Kevin McCairn, systems neuroscientist, on mccairndojo.com, new video ...

“British Medical Doctors Reporting Mass Side Effects From Vaccine (Including Neurological)”.
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I am extremely alarmed by the Prion talk...there's some legitimate information backing this but you already know that people are not going to touch this with a 10,000 mile stick because it basically means hundreds of millions are going to die because of our own action


Don't expect anyone to pick up on that story until bodies hit the floor. If you are waiting on "Lancet" or "AMA" to pick this up You know and I know the first papers that start posting this the black helicopters will show up and things will be retracted at midnight


Theres evidence, its scant but there is evidence. Im not a believer but if its real that will be irrelevant.


On that note, you realize UK is at the end of a wave correct? The Vaccines have nothing to do with the drop in cases...the Proof will be when a new wave arrives.

I wouldn't celebrate. Your Safe and effective vaccines are working nowhere else except against last years strains..which unironically are from last year and you had immunity for them naturally anyway and are helpless against the strains that are coming.




In closing: Your fucked like the rest of us
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epiclol

You my friend are in the perfect place....a conspiracy nightmare and I'll rsisenmy glass for the laughs you just gave me with this post.

Tell us sage one...what strains are coming and of course the Billion £££ new centre of diseases currently going online wont of course be on the lookout for these new strains along with Porton Down and Oxford have just downed tools now the 1st gen vaccine is here.

HA HA HA HA!!!
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You are in Denial. Your monkey brain cant process whats happening. Theres already 5 Vaccine resistant strains.

But don't believe me. Have fun getting 15 vaccines a year idiot

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
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BREAKING.....

UK Covid deaths just 10 for second day in a row as UK records 2,297 infections.

More fantastic news here in the UK...
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It's not going away, Jim.

Tell you what:

run the spike protein sequence (from here):
[link to www.uniprot.org (secure)]

through the PLAAC algorithm here:
[link to plaac.wi.mit.edu (secure)]
(you only need the Amino Acid sequence, not the header! AND remove all spaces ' '!!)

See that red bump at position 500 for the PrD line?
That's a PRION GENESIS SITE.

Then, remember ALL the vaccines either have the spike, or get your cells to make the spike via mRNA...
Then, remember the spikes --alone-- can cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier:

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice

Now consider what might have happened to the rhesus monkeys:

[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
SARS-CoV-2 causes brain inflammation and Lewy bodies, a hallmark for Parkinson, after an asymptomatic infection in macaques.
As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

In the Rhesus monkey study, ALL of them got Lewy Bodies after infection. ALL OF THEM.
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You can by all means keep posting up this drivel but until it's in the BMJ and Lancet it's just another research paper not peer reviewed. Seen loads of them on hear since the beginning saying all kinds of shit about the S1 spike protein.

I'll stick to the facts and enjoy the UK beating Covid with our safe and effective vaccines

Meanwhile in the EU...LMAO!!



Who pays for the Lancet.(Hint; It's not the doctors.)

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“British Medical Doctors Reporting Mass Side Effects From Vaccine (Including Neurological)”.
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Turned it on, thanks.
Neuroscience is showing up a lot in my life. Maybe I need to pay attention.
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There will be more and more mutants.

Professor Eric Raoult confirmed it in an interview (French language) a long while alerady.

It's no surprise they banned his Hydroxychloroquine treatment.

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There will be more and more mutants.

Professor Eric Raoult confirmed it in an interview (French language) a long while alerady.

It's no surprise they banned his Hydroxychloroquine treatment.

Idol1
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Because it doesn't work
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Interesting reading from another GLP thread from John Hopkins and their 2017 Pandemic Scenario







Thread: AJ goes over John Hopkins next move on the plandemic. Get ready for SPARS
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“British Medical Doctors Reporting Mass Side Effects From Vaccine (Including Neurological)”.
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Turned it on, thanks.
Neuroscience is showing up a lot in my life. Maybe I need to pay attention.
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thumbs

In Kevin’s video yesterday he goes into the points and errors of Alex Jone’s show coverage of what is going on. Worth watching that one, too.

Now that I have learned more I’m going with RPHUNTER’s recommendation of taking Ashwaganda. I just ordered organic Ashwaganda from Amazon.

On Journals.sagepub.com is an interesting paper by Christine Tara Peterson. 2020

"Dysfunction of the Microbiota-Gut-Brain Axis in Neurodegenerative Disease: The Promise of Therapeutic Modulation with Prebiotics”

“...Rats orally fed Ashwaganda extract displayed reduced acetylcholineaces(?) activity, inhibition of AB formation, and attenuated pro inflammatory cytokine levels, which alleviated cognitive dysfunction ...”

Also used Ashwaganda, in the study, in humans to good effect.
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From the Alex Jones thread ...

link to the actual document, and the vid in the OP is a must watch for everyone

[link to www.centerforhealthsecurity.org (secure)]
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Yet nothing you have claimed is being played out in the ground here in the UK with our world leading genome capabilities and having major vaccine resources Oxford have already said any mutations that come along wont be an issue they will just adjust the vaccines.

Also the current vaccines work against all the variants with the Kent Variant declared this week by PHE as being no worse than the original virus.

You can keep quoting random universities...they are 10 a penny and we've seen it here...its their opinion and loads have already got it wrong.

The Kent variant was around in Sep 2020....yet it hasn't more deadly than the original varient and the vaccines work against it.

Case closed.
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Whilst I admire your optimism Jim, I think we have long way yet to go before declaring victory over this virus.

Yes the vaccine will help, but there are many other factors at play, the vaccine is the first of many steps needed to return to normal times...
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Dave Allen RIP great subtle comedic genius. Sorry, I thought I was being a little bit funny with the nuclear thing, trying to be bubble gum dismissive, It did not go well. Apparently not. Oh well. As I keep hearing "It is what it is"
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You're right Largo, Dave Allen was a comic genius, the era of non woke comedy, a time when you could make fun of anything and everything!

As for the nuclear thing, who cares my friend..
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Thanks for the counter green, The Gent and CoronaCoaster!
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There will be more and more mutants.

Professor Eric Raoult confirmed it in an interview (French language) a long while alerady.

It's no surprise they banned his Hydroxychloroquine treatment.

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wait til the bambi and tiger variants. or will that not b PC?
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