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I feel confused too. Because the urgent care staff should know the gravity.
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read my phase thread. the govern covers it up so the nurses don't know reality either. how u think they convince them to reuse masks? gota save a few $$ somehow.

also depends where she is.some small towns are not hit yet.
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Put a link in here, Jazz. It was a really good thread that got lost.
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u can't lose me i'm like a bad penny or a toothache.

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See a penny pick it up. Your comments have been great.
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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DARTH left DC to find intelligent life. found cows were smarter than politicians.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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read my phase thread. the govern covers it up so the nurses don't know reality either. how u think they convince them to reuse masks? gota save a few $$ somehow.

also depends where she is.some small towns are not hit yet.
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Put a link in here, Jazz. It was a really good thread that got lost.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


u can't lose me i'm like a bad penny or a toothache.

Thread: PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK
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See a penny pick it up. Your comments have been great.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


NO,it might have the virus on it. saw a nickle last week,still there far as i know.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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The psychological research to date suggests that people are attracted to conspiracy theories when important psychological needs are unsatisfied. The first of these are epistemic needs. Specifically, people are looking for knowledge and clarity about important events. Indeed, research shows that people are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories under conditions of uncertainty. The second set of needs is existential. Specifically, people need to feel secure and in control of their surroundings, and research indeed shows that people who feel that they lack agency and power are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. The final set of needs is social. That is, people need to maintain a positive image of themselves and the groups they belong to. Some evidence to support this is that people who experience a strong need to feel unique compared to others tend to show greater belief in conspiracy theories.
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I cannot speak for the majority of GLP CT believers, but this is why I believe there are conspiracies and coverups:

1. KAL 007 had cameras on board when the Russians shot it down. Aeroflot planes had cameras and sensors for many years and "accidentally" flew over NATO bases. We thought we could do the same. Russians thought differently.

I found out about the cameras because one of my girl friends INSTALLED them at her aerospace job.

2. Space Shuttle Challenger did NOT crash because of an O ring failure. The failure was because they drilled extra holes in the SRB (Solid Rocket Booster) when the original bolt holes did not line up.

The Director of NASA never found out. The Accident Commission found out after they already had a press conference blaming O rings. The whistle blower was told, "If we change our story and it turns out that the accident was NASA's fault, we will lose credibility. Eminent scientists such as Feynman will be embarrassed."

So, they ignored the findings and blamed the O rings. Thiokol fired a VP.

3. TWA flight 800 was shot down by our own sub-launched missiles that were being tested. Over 100 people SAW the missiles come from the sea and hit the 747.

I was briefed on the missiles long before the accident. I know exactly why the missiles locked onto the 747 instead of the Navy target drones that day.

When the guvmint realized what had happened, they floated the absurd "center fuel tank" story. The MSM obediently parroted the propaganda.

4. Space Shuttle Columbia crashed because the leading edge carbon-carbon had not been replaced. I was IN THE MEETING when we told NASA that the repair had to be made before the accident. They said, "No money in the budget to fix it".

5. Vote fraud. In one election I visited the homes of 200 registered voters. 50% did not exist. It is pervasive. DJT won because the dims could not do vote fraud in every state.

Those are just a few of the examples where I knew what really happened.

Things I never saw:

1. All powerful Illuminati or other group controlling the world. Kinda silly. There are THOUSANDS of groups vying for power and influence all the time. Its about money, power, and ideology.

2. Aliens. Most senior pilots I knew saw UFOs. However, I never got a hint that we had alien tech, spacecraft, or whatever. There ARE lots of secret satellites and capabilities, but we do NOT have the ability to go to Mars, etc.
 Quoting: darth


Wow, Darth, no wonder you’d rather be farming!
 Quoting: sos


I was right in the middle of some of the most significant events of the last centuryl.

Enjoyed it. For all practical purposes, I was a corporate intel guy using open sources as well as my thousands of industry contacts. Usually, I could tell my bosses who was going to bid, who they would use for Program Manager, what their tech approach would be, and sometimes their price.

Spent a LOT of time in DC "educating" congressmen (not a registered lobbyist), seeking contracts, spoofing our competitors, etc.

My experience summed up:

Never trust the guvmint whether pubbie or dim.

Never trust the media. They are a joke. I don't know who controls them, but they are controlled.

Ref DC, TRILLIONS of dollars flow thru there. Everybody has a dog in the fight. Every country, corporation, industry group, union, political party, major religion, et al, use every tool for influence and gain.

Yes, now I have important work talking to my cows and picking cucuzza.
 Quoting: darth


Galt’s gulch.

Do you trust 5g?
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I posted a similar comment yesterday:

China has shown that they will eat anything. It is unlikely that they would halt imports of meat in a time of crisis.

A simpler answer is more likely: exports have halted, and China is trying to save face with their soon to be hungry population.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Hi, Serenity! I missed this when I asked about the chicken import/export thing. So are you saying it’s more likely we have stopped shipping to China and China is telling their people China is rejecting US chicken so they don’t have to tell their people we aren’t sending it to them?
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Hey sos! Yes, that is my guess. The article yesterday was about meat plants in Germany being infected and how China banned meat from Germany. Now today we see them banning chicken from Tyson in the US. We have known about a chicken and meat shortage for months! There is no way that won't affect exports to China.

Strategy: China will say they are banning imports to show that the CCP is in control and not the western world. When that gets out of control (hungry population), they will blame the rest of the world. And then look out.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Ah ha! Thanks, now I get it.

So time is now, IMO, to make CCP China ‘least favored nation’ and get them out of our lives.
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YES!
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So two days ago I found out I was exposed to someone with covid. I work at a nursing home owned by the local hospital. I received an email last week that stated anyone refusing to be tested for covid when requested to do so would be fired with no ability to ever be rehired.

I was asked and was tested yesterday at 7 am. I was told results would be known in 24 hours.This is the third time I've been exposed and tested. Negative first two times.

So I go on the hospitals patient portal. They have no record of my test. I go on the hospitals medical record site as I have access to that and that has no record of my test.

So I get pissed off. I want to know where my sample was sent and who has it and how can I get "MY MEDICAL" results.

No one knows.

No one but me seems to be concerned.

If the hospital collected my sample, why do they not have a record that they did so? If they didn't test in house it would still be on record that they collected it because thats what happened the second time they collected it.

To top it off not one nurse I work with believes that the two people who tested positive actually have it because they were literally quarantined.

"false positive"is the new buzz word at work.

Something is afoot. Games are being played.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76998022


I related earlier how my son and four others from my company ignored my advice and attended a wedding a few weeks ago.

They ALL have Wuhan Virus now.

The primary symptom that they exhibited was loss of smell and taste.

If that happens to you, you KNOW you are positive.

Based on what I have seen in this thread, that's better evidence than any existing test.
 Quoting: darth


OMG, DID YOU GIVE THEM SOME QUININE, ZINC, ETC.?
You are all in my prayers.
 Quoting: sos


I advised them to seek treatment using hydroxychloroquin, ivermectin, etc. They need prescriptions.

I ordered oxygen meters for all.

Have been sending them info for months. They have not been listening.
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So two days ago I found out I was exposed to someone with covid. I work at a nursing home owned by the local hospital. I received an email last week that stated anyone refusing to be tested for covid when requested to do so would be fired with no ability to ever be rehired.

I was asked and was tested yesterday at 7 am. I was told results would be known in 24 hours.This is the third time I've been exposed and tested. Negative first two times.

So I go on the hospitals patient portal. They have no record of my test. I go on the hospitals medical record site as I have access to that and that has no record of my test.

So I get pissed off. I want to know where my sample was sent and who has it and how can I get "MY MEDICAL" results.

No one knows.

No one but me seems to be concerned.

If the hospital collected my sample, why do they not have a record that they did so? If they didn't test in house it would still be on record that they collected it because thats what happened the second time they collected it.

To top it off not one nurse I work with believes that the two people who tested positive actually have it because they were literally quarantined.

"false positive"is the new buzz word at work.

Something is afoot. Games are being played.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76998022


I related earlier how my son and four others from my company ignored my advice and attended a wedding a few weeks ago.

They ALL have Wuhan Virus now.

The primary symptom that they exhibited was loss of smell and taste.

If that happens to you, you KNOW you are positive.

Based on what I have seen in this thread, that's better evidence than any existing test.
 Quoting: darth


Did they have any gi issues?
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Only one had that.

Fever, cough...normal CV symptoms.
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Hi, Serenity! I missed this when I asked about the chicken import/export thing. So are you saying it’s more likely we have stopped shipping to China and China is telling their people China is rejecting US chicken so they don’t have to tell their people we aren’t sending it to them?
 Quoting: sos



Hey sos! Yes, that is my guess. The article yesterday was about meat plants in Germany being infected and how China banned meat from Germany. Now today we see them banning chicken from Tyson in the US. We have known about a chicken and meat shortage for months! There is no way that won't affect exports to China.

Strategy: China will say they are banning imports to show that the CCP is in control and not the western world. When that gets out of control (hungry population), they will blame the rest of the world. And then look out.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Ah ha! Thanks, now I get it.

So time is now, IMO, to make CCP China ‘least favored nation’ and get them out of our lives.
 Quoting: sos



YES!
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Kicking them all out of our universities should be a priority, too, imo. Get them back to zero talents again.
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I cannot speak for the majority of GLP CT believers, but this is why I believe there are conspiracies and coverups:

1. KAL 007 had cameras on board when the Russians shot it down. Aeroflot planes had cameras and sensors for many years and "accidentally" flew over NATO bases. We thought we could do the same. Russians thought differently.

I found out about the cameras because one of my girl friends INSTALLED them at her aerospace job.

2. Space Shuttle Challenger did NOT crash because of an O ring failure. The failure was because they drilled extra holes in the SRB (Solid Rocket Booster) when the original bolt holes did not line up.

The Director of NASA never found out. The Accident Commission found out after they already had a press conference blaming O rings. The whistle blower was told, "If we change our story and it turns out that the accident was NASA's fault, we will lose credibility. Eminent scientists such as Feynman will be embarrassed."

So, they ignored the findings and blamed the O rings. Thiokol fired a VP.

3. TWA flight 800 was shot down by our own sub-launched missiles that were being tested. Over 100 people SAW the missiles come from the sea and hit the 747.

I was briefed on the missiles long before the accident. I know exactly why the missiles locked onto the 747 instead of the Navy target drones that day.

When the guvmint realized what had happened, they floated the absurd "center fuel tank" story. The MSM obediently parroted the propaganda.

4. Space Shuttle Columbia crashed because the leading edge carbon-carbon had not been replaced. I was IN THE MEETING when we told NASA that the repair had to be made before the accident. They said, "No money in the budget to fix it".

5. Vote fraud. In one election I visited the homes of 200 registered voters. 50% did not exist. It is pervasive. DJT won because the dims could not do vote fraud in every state.

Those are just a few of the examples where I knew what really happened.

Things I never saw:

1. All powerful Illuminati or other group controlling the world. Kinda silly. There are THOUSANDS of groups vying for power and influence all the time. Its about money, power, and ideology.

2. Aliens. Most senior pilots I knew saw UFOs. However, I never got a hint that we had alien tech, spacecraft, or whatever. There ARE lots of secret satellites and capabilities, but we do NOT have the ability to go to Mars, etc.
 Quoting: darth


Wow, Darth, no wonder you’d rather be farming!
 Quoting: sos


I was right in the middle of some of the most significant events of the last centuryl.

Enjoyed it. For all practical purposes, I was a corporate intel guy using open sources as well as my thousands of industry contacts. Usually, I could tell my bosses who was going to bid, who they would use for Program Manager, what their tech approach would be, and sometimes their price.

Spent a LOT of time in DC "educating" congressmen (not a registered lobbyist), seeking contracts, spoofing our competitors, etc.

My experience summed up:

Never trust the guvmint whether pubbie or dim.

Never trust the media. They are a joke. I don't know who controls them, but they are controlled.

Ref DC, TRILLIONS of dollars flow thru there. Everybody has a dog in the fight. Every country, corporation, industry group, union, political party, major religion, et al, use every tool for influence and gain.

Yes, now I have important work talking to my cows and picking cucuzza.
 Quoting: darth


Galt’s gulch.

Do you trust 5g?
 Quoting: sos


Ref 5G, don't know.

But I wall papered my office with mylar. Not joking.

I have an RF meter and use it.
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DARTH left DC to find intelligent life. found cows were smarter than politicians.
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True that.
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Put a link in here, Jazz. It was a really good thread that got lost.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


u can't lose me i'm like a bad penny or a toothache.

Thread: PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK
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See a penny pick it up. Your comments have been great.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


NO,it might have the virus on it. saw a nickle last week,still there far as i know.
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Never take a wooden (trojan horse) nickel.
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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So two days ago I found out I was exposed to someone with covid. I work at a nursing home owned by the local hospital. I received an email last week that stated anyone refusing to be tested for covid when requested to do so would be fired with no ability to ever be rehired.

I was asked and was tested yesterday at 7 am. I was told results would be known in 24 hours.This is the third time I've been exposed and tested. Negative first two times.

So I go on the hospitals patient portal. They have no record of my test. I go on the hospitals medical record site as I have access to that and that has no record of my test.

So I get pissed off. I want to know where my sample was sent and who has it and how can I get "MY MEDICAL" results.

No one knows.

No one but me seems to be concerned.

If the hospital collected my sample, why do they not have a record that they did so? If they didn't test in house it would still be on record that they collected it because thats what happened the second time they collected it.

To top it off not one nurse I work with believes that the two people who tested positive actually have it because they were literally quarantined.

"false positive"is the new buzz word at work.

Something is afoot. Games are being played.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76998022


I related earlier how my son and four others from my company ignored my advice and attended a wedding a few weeks ago.

They ALL have Wuhan Virus now.

The primary symptom that they exhibited was loss of smell and taste.

If that happens to you, you KNOW you are positive.

Based on what I have seen in this thread, that's better evidence than any existing test.
 Quoting: darth


OMG, DID YOU GIVE THEM SOME QUININE, ZINC, ETC.?
You are all in my prayers.
 Quoting: sos


I advised them to seek treatment using hydroxychloroquin, ivermectin, etc. They need prescriptions.

I ordered oxygen meters for all.

Have been sending them info for months. They have not been listening.
 Quoting: darth


You can’t force people to listen, that’s for sure. I have spent plenty of time trying that.

I have one sister-in-law though who is really on the ball and is doing an excellent job of keeping one wing of the family safe, thank God. might be sending my niece back East to school though. Hope that changes. Apparently everyone’s watching what Stanford is going to do for guidance. Have no idea why.
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Wow, Darth, no wonder you’d rather be farming!
 Quoting: sos


I was right in the middle of some of the most significant events of the last centuryl.

Enjoyed it. For all practical purposes, I was a corporate intel guy using open sources as well as my thousands of industry contacts. Usually, I could tell my bosses who was going to bid, who they would use for Program Manager, what their tech approach would be, and sometimes their price.

Spent a LOT of time in DC "educating" congressmen (not a registered lobbyist), seeking contracts, spoofing our competitors, etc.

My experience summed up:

Never trust the guvmint whether pubbie or dim.

Never trust the media. They are a joke. I don't know who controls them, but they are controlled.

Ref DC, TRILLIONS of dollars flow thru there. Everybody has a dog in the fight. Every country, corporation, industry group, union, political party, major religion, et al, use every tool for influence and gain.

Yes, now I have important work talking to my cows and picking cucuzza.
 Quoting: darth


Galt’s gulch.

Do you trust 5g?
 Quoting: sos


Ref 5G, don't know.

But I wall papered my office with mylar. Not joking.

I have an RF meter and use it.
 Quoting: darth


Did you use the bubble wrap covered with Mylar? I was thinking of using that for insulation. Forgot what it’s called
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I was right in the middle of some of the most significant events of the last centuryl.

Enjoyed it. For all practical purposes, I was a corporate intel guy using open sources as well as my thousands of industry contacts. Usually, I could tell my bosses who was going to bid, who they would use for Program Manager, what their tech approach would be, and sometimes their price.

Spent a LOT of time in DC "educating" congressmen (not a registered lobbyist), seeking contracts, spoofing our competitors, etc.

My experience summed up:

Never trust the guvmint whether pubbie or dim.

Never trust the media. They are a joke. I don't know who controls them, but they are controlled.

Ref DC, TRILLIONS of dollars flow thru there. Everybody has a dog in the fight. Every country, corporation, industry group, union, political party, major religion, et al, use every tool for influence and gain.

Yes, now I have important work talking to my cows and picking cucuzza.
 Quoting: darth


Galt’s gulch.

Do you trust 5g?
 Quoting: sos


Ref 5G, don't know.

But I wall papered my office with mylar. Not joking.

I have an RF meter and use it.
 Quoting: darth


Did you use the bubble wrap covered with Mylar? I was thinking of using that for insulation. Forgot what it’s called
 Quoting: sos


Nope. Got the heavy duty aluminum on plastic rolls. I think it is HDPE, much stronger than regular mylar.
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I really miss the days when we talked much more about actual CT on this board. That's why I came here in the first place ... there were some great threads about various conspiracies, back in the day. Sigh. Now it is mostly politics, and driven by trolls and shills. This thread and a few other gems are golden ... but a good deal of the rest of it I just ignore.

I do know about the "non-lethal" weapons, and they're scary as hell. I've done a lot of research on the development of them going back to the 50s and 60s. My dad's narrative intersected with some of that R&D at one point, but I don't know to what extent he was involved with it. Same time and place, though. I think he was more on the biowarfare side of things, but where he was working, all kinds of research was going on. It was a hub of MK Ultra projects, and a big player in the LSD experiments.

I also, currently, actually know a bona-fide targeted individual. For real ... she's mentally totally sound, and she is definitely a target. She actually didn't know about the electronic weapons until I mentioned it, but what she was telling me checked all the boxes for TI. She looked up the topic, and suddenly everything that was happening to her made sense.

So, yes .. the nanobot people might well be right about synthetic telepathy (which does exist) .. but what I'm saying is that the media will find someone whose story sounds completely unbelievable to the general public, and use that person as an example of what conspiracy theorists are like, thus discrediting us (and yes, I wear my metaphorical tinfoil hat proudly.)

I, personally, think the QAnon crowd are a good example of people who sound stark raving mad to the public. I think they were strung along by a very brilliant psy-op, and it worked perfectly.

In short, yes, I know well that conspiracies exist -- and I'm 99 percent certain that my dad was coerced into a "suicide" over some of his work. That is what started me down this rabbit hole in the first place ... plus, I've always been a person who questioned things that didn't sound right to me. I could go on and on about this.
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At one time, the media was controlled by a three letter agency beginning with a C. It was called Project Mockingbird. William Colby flat out said that they had people in every newspaper office, everywhere, and that they controlled what was released. I don't know who controls them now. They also had people in all the major academic institutions, controlling the narrative on that level. Academia has been both wittingly and sometimes unwittingly used for a lot of things that are being directed from higher up. Top tier academmia is pretty corrupt. There are some genuinely good people working in most of those Ivory Towers, but there are also a lot of people who can't be trusted.

Independent journalism sometimes revealed some gems that the MSM would not touch, but that has become a really deadly job .. even more so than it was ten years ago.

As for where I draw that line... I also don't believbe in aliens, though I have no doubt that many UFOs have been seen. I think they're likely military.

I think there is something of an Illuminati, and I think they control the hell out of Hollywood. I doubt they're as all powerful as they're sometimes portrayed to be, but I do think that some of the elites are engaged in some deeply occult things with the hopes of gaining spiritual control. I'm pretty agnostic as to all that, but sympbols do have power, even if it is just in controlling the masses through repetition of them.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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Darth ... for your family, if they're willing to do it, you can get natural quinine supplements (I use an herb called Quina) ... and in a pinch, humans can use veterinary ivermectin. Many a bird rehabber has done so, with no ill effects that I know of. Definitely try to get them on the Quercetin and Zinc, Vit D and C ... and something to suppress cytokines if the symptoms get bad.

They're in my thoughts.
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Germany coronavirus: Extra police enforce German tower block quarantine

Police reinforcements have been sent to maintain a coronavirus quarantine on a tower block in the German city of Goettingen after violence on Saturday.

Seven-hundred people were placed in quarantine, but 200 trying to get out clashed with police.

Residents attacked police with fireworks, bottles and metal bars, officials said.

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Thats why china welded them in the building
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20-year veteran nurse in NYC via Dr. Dee Knight:
These are my observations (of hospitalized patients):


1) Everybody is so swollen their skin has blisters and is so tight it looks like it’s about to burst, from head to heel. And skin so dry peeling and flaky that to slather Vaseline on every shift is almost necessary — all over.

2) Everybody’s skin is weeping clear fluid and has sores and the skin just slides off with slightest turn or rub, all over the body.

3) Everybody’s blood is thick as slush. Can’t figure out what’s making it clot like that, but it’s dark and thick.

4) Everybody’s kidneys are failing. Urine dark or red, which could contribute to the swelling, but we don’t know yet.

5) Everybody has an abnormal heart rhythm. Not sure of the cause. But even without underlying heart problems, it’s not beating normally.

6) Seems counterproductive, but the ones that are not breathing on the ventilator have to lay flat on their stomachs to breathe better. And even some on the ventilator are on their stomachs. And the slightest turn for some is what leads to their almost immediate death. Bathing, cleaning and turning to prevent skin breakdown causes most to code blue, so a decision has to be made on which is most important.

7) Everyone has a Foley catheter and a rectal tube — incontinent of bowel and bladder.

8) Everybody on tube feeding. Everybody.

Never before in my entire career have I seen a disease process attack in this way.

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Just talked with my son; he called to wish me a happy Father's Day.

He, his wife, and their three children live in a suburb of Chicago. One of his best friends is an anesthesiologist who has been spending all his work time with Covid patients.

Per his doctor friend: Older patients die pretty quickly once they start to show symptoms. Younger but overweight patients linger, linger, linger, and often end up dying. Younger patients in generally good health recover the fastest.

I know, nothing we haven't talked about here but I thought I'd add an "on the front lines" report.
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Happy Father's Day Croc, and also to Darth and the rest of the dads on GLP! Hope you had a great day!
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I did, Serenity, thanks for the thought.
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Covid may trigger the onset of Diabetes in healthy people
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Scary thing about this situation is now they know how easy it is for a virus like this to spread globally. So if they do want to end the world they can just gather years worth of supplies in an estate and release a virus as contagious as this but more deadly, then they will have the population reduction they always wanted.
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20-year veteran nurse in NYC via Dr. Dee Knight:
These are my observations (of hospitalized patients):


1) Everybody is so swollen their skin has blisters and is so tight it looks like it’s about to burst, from head to heel. And skin so dry peeling and flaky that to slather Vaseline on every shift is almost necessary — all over.

2) Everybody’s skin is weeping clear fluid and has sores and the skin just slides off with slightest turn or rub, all over the body.

3) Everybody’s blood is thick as slush. Can’t figure out what’s making it clot like that, but it’s dark and thick.

4) Everybody’s kidneys are failing. Urine dark or red, which could contribute to the swelling, but we don’t know yet.

5) Everybody has an abnormal heart rhythm. Not sure of the cause. But even without underlying heart problems, it’s not beating normally.

6) Seems counterproductive, but the ones that are not breathing on the ventilator have to lay flat on their stomachs to breathe better. And even some on the ventilator are on their stomachs. And the slightest turn for some is what leads to their almost immediate death. Bathing, cleaning and turning to prevent skin breakdown causes most to code blue, so a decision has to be made on which is most important.

7) Everyone has a Foley catheter and a rectal tube — incontinent of bowel and bladder.

8) Everybody on tube feeding. Everybody.

Never before in my entire career have I seen a disease process attack in this way.

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My heart aches.
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AZ, FL, TX..etc. seem to push into a deeper red line than 70% / 30x3 cases

South Korea Confirms Second Coronavirus Wave


Until now, the KCDC had said that South Korea’s first wave had never really ended.

But Dr Jeong said it was now clear that a holiday weekend in early May marked the beginning of a new wave of infections focused in the greater Seoul area, which had previously seen only a few cases.

The mayor of Seoul also warned that the capital may have to return to strict social distancing, should cases top 30 on average over the next three days and the bed occupancy rate of the city’s hospitals exceeds 70%.

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20-year veteran nurse in NYC via Dr. Dee Knight:
These are my observations (of hospitalized patients):


1) Everybody is so swollen their skin has blisters and is so tight it looks like it’s about to burst, from head to heel. And skin so dry peeling and flaky that to slather Vaseline on every shift is almost necessary — all over.

2) Everybody’s skin is weeping clear fluid and has sores and the skin just slides off with slightest turn or rub, all over the body.

3) Everybody’s blood is thick as slush. Can’t figure out what’s making it clot like that, but it’s dark and thick.

4) Everybody’s kidneys are failing. Urine dark or red, which could contribute to the swelling, but we don’t know yet.

5) Everybody has an abnormal heart rhythm. Not sure of the cause. But even without underlying heart problems, it’s not beating normally.

6) Seems counterproductive, but the ones that are not breathing on the ventilator have to lay flat on their stomachs to breathe better. And even some on the ventilator are on their stomachs. And the slightest turn for some is what leads to their almost immediate death. Bathing, cleaning and turning to prevent skin breakdown causes most to code blue, so a decision has to be made on which is most important.

7) Everyone has a Foley catheter and a rectal tube — incontinent of bowel and bladder.

8) Everybody on tube feeding. Everybody.

Never before in my entire career have I seen a disease process attack in this way.

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My heart aches.
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Yeah. Mine too. That’s some tough stuff.
I haven’t seen such a list before. Which is why I posted it.
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I’m anticipating more lock down measures in China.

"Beijing Sinpadi Mayor Corona 19 virus is mutant"

(SCMP) reported that even after recovering from a new coronavirus infection (Corona19) in China, it is still vulnerable to the foreign mutation of D614G, the Corona19 virus. Reported.

... D614G, began spreading in Europe in early February and became a dominant strain worldwide in May, accounting for 70% of the Corona19 virus in Europe and North America. Scientists said in an article published iBioArchive that "antibodies found in patients who had recovered from a previous virus infection failed to neutralize this mutant."

...Sinpadi agricultural wholesale market, which brought fears of secondary spread of Corona19 in Beijing, was also identified as a D614G mutant

...Professor Hwang Ai-Lung of Chongqing Medical University injected antibodies from 41 blood samples from people recovered from Corona 19 into the D614G mutant, but found that the antibodies were not resistant to mutant viruses.

...US Scripps Research Institute revealed that the D614G mutant virus could increase the number of spike proteins by 10 times to increase the infectivity against human cells.

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Guy....

You need to go read the Redddit and Facebook support groups then.

It ain’t purty. And most of those aren’t the hospitalized ones.

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I found out what Christmas 2020 will look like..... that ain’t purty either.

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So, the more time you spend in a crowded place of worship or partying, the higher your viral load will be..
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I would like to hear your theory
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Oh yeah, me too, TC Owl. Please share it with the class?
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Fine.

We all know the thing has an HIV insert.
It's been independently proven by something like eight scientists/groups of scientists at this point.

Back when we only had two groups of scientists on board, I went looking for further evidence.

I found it.

Scientists at the Wuhan lab - according to a long series of published professional journal articles over the entire prior decade - had been playing with a SARS virus with an HIV insert. The insert made the SARS virus much more transmittable, which made it easier for them to infect petri dishes and research with (they were trying to create vaccines).

In their research with mice, they discovered that none of the mice with the HIV insert virus were able to fight off the SARS virus. Mice that had been given the plain SARS virus (no HIV insert) still had a fighting chance.

They also discovered that no matter what pharmaceutical support or intervention they gave to the SARS/HIV mice, it was not enough to help the mice to survive.

There was no mention of research on humans in the professional journal articles. This is understandable - it either means there was no human research or it was too unethical to make it into the professional scientific journals.

So, human trials, for our intent and purpose, began when the Wuhan outbreak began.

Those human trials have thus far shown us that the elderly die almost immediately, children come down with rare illnesses associated with HIV, and adults tend to be somewhere between those two extremes.

The trials (i.e. the year 2020) have yet to let us know the long term survivability.

What we know is that we have a virus that is
A. Extremely transmittable
B. Deadly
C. May act like AIDS
D. Is piggy backed on a virus that was already deadly on its own
E. Affects the blood and organs
F. Decimates the immune system
G. Only reliably goes into remission with HIV treatment
H. Can be caught multiple times
I. May never leave and may become, just like for AIDS patients, a game of controlling viral load to stay alive and reduce the risk of transmitting it to others
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Best summary thus far. Thanks, TC. I'm printing this out to hand to friends who are still in denial...
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Our Coronavirus testing is so much greater (25 million tests) and so much more advanced, that it makes us look like we have more cases, especially proportionally, than other countries. My message on that is very clear!
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#UPDATE The coronavirus pandemic is still accelerating and its effects will be felt for decades, the World Health Organization's director-general #Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told an online conference on Monday


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