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All This Bullshit About The Coronavirus!

 
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THE WEAPONS BIO LAB

CALLED

CHINA

ANOTHER ATEMPT

ANOTHER FAILURE???
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Why is the medical profession icon a snake wrapped around a pole?
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I think it's a caldera
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At first I thought no big deal but the videos are extremely alarming. Disney closing a business that will lose millions by doing so is concerning. If this is a true pandemic we will know it soon.

On the news last night in our area they had a news segment on asking people not to come to the hospital because you can infect others. Gave advice on what to do but to stay home. The segment was being done with a very large children’s hospital that serves a very large area.

If this gets to pandemic level then heed the advice stay in your home, hydrate don’t spread it to others. The hospital is not going to be able to do much to save you when there is no cure. You will just be infecting others.

For now learn what you can to avoid it getting sick. Keep your immune system strong, wash hands, don’t touch your face, stay out of crowds.

As a nurse I pray this is not a pandemic in the making.
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Flu spreads like wildfire.. In 2010 swine flu spread to 61M people in US, that is 20% of people.. this is Just US, which had .01% kill rate, and killed 12,000 people. God forbid if 60MM people are effected in US with this, 2 % mortality rate will be 1.2MM people.. that is pretty damn significant.
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On the other hand China could be lying, this could be a bioweapon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43702541


Could explain their closing down their cities, you know to protect their populations when the real deadly strain is released. They obviously know something that the western nations don't and their response should have people who watch these things concerned, not telling everybody that things are okay, to carry on as usual.

Are we sure all those videos of people falling over are real, or are they being put out to help explain their unprecedented response? If real, why are western nations not following suit? If fake, then defense ministers for western nations should be concerned about potential for economic/cyber/biological attacks incoming.

This whole thing seems to have an economic warfare component to it, which might explain why western nations are not following suit, but if China is shutting this many large cities it is going to ripple into the global economy to some extent, which may be the whole point.

(1) Launch a mildly effective biological agent, over-blow the threat as well as your own response to provide plausible deniability for taking actions that will harm your opponent economically, while sacrificing your own economy temporarily, knowing that all economies are about to change, and that you are making the switch to a wartime economy.

(2) Use it as an excuse to close your systems off from the internet, then launch the largest cyber-attack on your opponent to further the economic destruction to your enemy.

(3) Release a deadly variant of the disease once it is accepted that there is a world emergency/crisis, while giving most of your own people the immunity to that strain, crippling your enemies command and control war fighting capabilities before launching a first strike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


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"(UNVERIFIED) - Multiple reports showing military movement & presence in #Wuhan via social media in #China"

China is moving military into Wuhan, constructing a "hospital" in 6 days.
This is a reaction to a biological disaster, probably manmade. Doesn't seem like an offensive move, more defensive within their own population.
To sacrifice their own population goes against Chinese Tactical Warfare where their population is an asset.

Thanks for the lively discussion, more needed!
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Bloody hell! The common flu will kill more this year.

Don't fall for this obvious fear distraction.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


Lol your a fucking idiot stop downplaying just because it hasnt hit your neck of the woods. You know the death toll is in the 100,000s

Flu can be cured
This can not as long as its jumping from person to person its mutation is ever changing

Christ you fucking retards have no idea how serious this is.. wake the fuck up take trumps mushroom out of your ass. Its not some distraction etc etc ..

This was already forwarned by the CDC months and months ago. Thst a epidemic is coming that will wipe out millions..

For all we know this is depopulation agenda ..

But it deff isnt something to brush off.. The sheer amount of bodies in China and its ability to infect massive amounts this makes your so cslled deadly flu look like a sneeze.

Flu kills mostly old or weak immune

This thing is killing all ages..
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where you getting 100,000s dead from? hmmmmmmm

or are you just talking out your ass?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78365573


Yes, that poster is talking out his ass. Claiming 100,000s dead is bullshit
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At first I thought no big deal but the videos are extremely alarming. Disney closing a business that will lose millions by doing so is concerning. If this is a true pandemic we will know it soon.

On the news last night in our area they had a news segment on asking people not to come to the hospital because you can infect others. Gave advice on what to do but to stay home. The segment was being done with a very large children’s hospital that serves a very large area.

If this gets to pandemic level then heed the advice stay in your home, hydrate don’t spread it to others. The hospital is not going to be able to do much to save you when there is no cure. You will just be infecting others.

For now learn what you can to avoid it getting sick. Keep your immune system strong, wash hands, don’t touch your face, stay out of crowds.

As a nurse I pray this is not a pandemic in the making.
 Quoting: Dee49


quarantine!

This means you must have food for 28 days in your house. And you cannot leave. Talk this over with your families.
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Bloody hell! The common flu will kill more this year.

Don't fall for this obvious fear distraction.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


Lol your a fucking idiot stop downplaying just because it hasnt hit your neck of the woods. You know the death toll is in the 100,000s

Flu can be cured
This can not as long as its jumping from person to person its mutation is ever changing

Christ you fucking retards have no idea how serious this is.. wake the fuck up take trumps mushroom out of your ass. Its not some distraction etc etc ..

This was already forwarned by the CDC months and months ago. Thst a epidemic is coming that will wipe out millions..

For all we know this is depopulation agenda ..

But it deff isnt something to brush off.. The sheer amount of bodies in China and its ability to infect massive amounts this makes your so cslled deadly flu look like a sneeze.

Flu kills mostly old or weak immune

This thing is killing all ages..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78372090


where you getting 100,000s dead from? hmmmmmmm

or are you just talking out your ass?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78365573


Yes, that poster is talking out his ass. Claiming 100,000s dead is bullshit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78380217


AT the rate "Corona" is growing it will reach that number in 7 days as the incubation periods end and become full blown infections. Death with this virus is 2-4 days. It moves quick.
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"(UNVERIFIED) - Multiple reports showing military movement & presence in #Wuhan via social media in #China"

China is moving military into Wuhan, constructing a "hospital" in 6 days.
This is a reaction to a biological disaster, probably manmade. Doesn't seem like an offensive move, more defensive within their own population.
To sacrifice their own population goes against Chinese Tactical Warfare where their population is an asset.

Thanks for the lively discussion, more needed!
 Quoting: MissCleo


This has to be more then just a flu.
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if you read the news, very scary. 30M people under some form of "quarantine?" China operating in the open in this way gives credence to this being legit. but...

isn't it odd that this inflammatory subject captures the news headlines dead bullseye of the impeachment hearings? such worldwide news on both sides. hmmmm....

no idea, but we have lived through this scaremongering so many times in just the last decade... SARS, MERS, EBOLA, et al.

but China to allow the world to know 30M under quarantine... if not legit, that's a shit ton of multi gov'ts coordinating in the background. and that seems highly unlikely / undoable.

suffice to say, after all the speculation and rumors, either we will know as were about to die, or we'll know when we're back here next month talking about the Oroville Dam...
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so far 547 confirmed cases, with 25 deaths is at a 5% mortality rate..
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so far 547 confirmed cases, with 25 deaths is at a 5% mortality rate..
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That's a BS figure.

Got to be 10,000 + by now.

Famine possibility too.

If ever there was to be a move against PRC the time is now

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but ///// the bug folk wont.
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china not going after

innocents in other nations

so why

would they go after

people in their own



no swallow
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"(UNVERIFIED) - Multiple reports showing military movement & presence in #Wuhan via social media in #China"

China is moving military into Wuhan, constructing a "hospital" in 6 days.
This is a reaction to a biological disaster, probably manmade. Doesn't seem like an offensive move, more defensive within their own population.
To sacrifice their own population goes against Chinese Tactical Warfare where their population is an asset.

Thanks for the lively discussion, more needed!
 Quoting: MissCleo


This has to be more then just a flu.
 Quoting: Diabolical.


They won't call it Pneumonic Plague, which it looks like, all the symptoms, because that would cause severe panic.

So they named it "Corona" a friendly beer name (bet that company is cringing now), and pretend like the military can contain the outbreak.

This is action-movie shit! Like 911. World War Z scenes. I suggest watching Waterworld, 28 Days Later, and talking it over with the family about realtime scenarios.

When I bring up the topic with young people they say "we'll just kill old people and take their shit" because they aren't prepared. But that thought pattern is real among youth. Be prepared for ALL scenarios in the next few weeks.
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Bloody hell! The common flu will kill more this year.

Don't fall for this obvious fear distraction.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The common flu kills 0.01 percent that get sick, the China virus is killing about 2 percent or more, that equals the 1920 pandemic..

Your thread is a major FAIL...

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78359573


By my calculations, in China, the mortality is hovering at 5% and appears to be climbing. Not sure what you're talking about with the flu. It's mortality is extremely low these days.

The 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic was a 20% mortality rate and it struck mostly the young. Just like with Ebola, I don't fear slow movers with 80% mortality, but a fast-moving, respiratory virus with a 10% mortality rate would catastrophic. Imagine 35 million Americans dying in the span of 16-30 weeks. We'd be overrun.

Don't panic yet, but know where your tomato plants are!
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china not going after

innocents in other nations

so why

would they go after

people in their own



no swallow
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Exactly. Usually the flashpoint is a deadzone. China wouldn't kill itself.
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so far 547 confirmed cases, with 25 deaths is at a 5% mortality rate..
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such tiny numbers to justify all the fear-inducing headlines... just doesn't add up... either we are being highly manipulated (again! and most likely), or we are just learning about the tip of the iceberg of something that is going to kill tens of millions.

its really a coin toss.

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China took Tibet
China concentration camps for muslims
organ harvesting

etc

commies gonna commie
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Bloody hell! The common flu will kill more this year.

Don't fall for this obvious fear distraction.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


The common flu kills 0.01 percent that get sick, the China virus is killing about 2 percent or more, that equals the 1920 pandemic..

Your thread is a major FAIL...

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78359573


By my calculations, in China, the mortality is hovering at 5% and appears to be climbing. Not sure what you're talking about with the flu. It's mortality is extremely low these days.

The 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic was a 20% mortality rate and it struck mostly the young. Just like with Ebola, I don't fear slow movers with 80% mortality, but a fast-moving, respiratory virus with a 10% mortality rate would catastrophic. Imagine 35 million Americans dying in the span of 16-30 weeks. We'd be overrun.

Don't panic yet, but know where your tomato plants are!
 Quoting: Arkansas River Bard


I hear you.

Remember the canned good shortage in Walmart last year?
Signs on the shelves that they didn't expect to be restocked for 2 weeks.

More my concern, what to do with all the dead bodies. That takes manpower. FEMA will need a bigger staff.
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China took Tibet
China concentration camps for muslims
organ harvesting

etc

commies gonna commie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72063207


Managing 6 billion people isn't easy.

India 2 billion (being overrun by Islamic conquest)
China 2 billion (has Muslim reprogramming camps)
Islam 2 billion. (spreading throughout Africa and the West)

6 billion on the Asian continent. Clash was inevitable.
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On the other hand China could be lying, this could be a bioweapon.
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Could explain their closing down their cities, you know to protect their populations when the real deadly strain is released. They obviously know something that the western nations don't and their response should have people who watch these things concerned, not telling everybody that things are okay, to carry on as usual.

Are we sure all those videos of people falling over are real, or are they being put out to help explain their unprecedented response? If real, why are western nations not following suit? If fake, then defense ministers for western nations should be concerned about potential for economic/cyber/biological attacks incoming.

This whole thing seems to have an economic warfare component to it, which might explain why western nations are not following suit, but if China is shutting this many large cities it is going to ripple into the global economy to some extent, which may be the whole point.

(1) Launch a mildly effective biological agent, over-blow the threat as well as your own response to provide plausible deniability for taking actions that will harm your opponent economically, while sacrificing your own economy temporarily, knowing that all economies are about to change, and that you are making the switch to a wartime economy.

(2) Use it as an excuse to close your systems off from the internet, then launch the largest cyber-attack on your opponent to further the economic destruction to your enemy.

(3) Release a deadly variant of the disease once it is accepted that there is a world emergency/crisis, while giving most of your own people the immunity to that strain, crippling your enemies command and control war fighting capabilities before launching a first strike.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


[link to twitter.com (secure)]
"(UNVERIFIED) - Multiple reports showing military movement & presence in #Wuhan via social media in #China"

China is moving military into Wuhan, constructing a "hospital" in 6 days.
This is a reaction to a biological disaster, probably manmade. Doesn't seem like an offensive move, more defensive within their own population.
To sacrifice their own population goes against Chinese Tactical Warfare where their population is an asset.

Thanks for the lively discussion, more needed!
 Quoting: MissCleo


It wouldn't be the first time China killed off millions of their own people, if that is what's happening, but I would tend to think that the initial release effecting their population currently is the mildest of engineered strains, giving them room to make several tactical moves ahead before their opponents catch on to what is transpiring and respond accordingly, before they release the deadlier strain in their enemies economic centers and largest population centers, after they are already protected because of actions that they took first, while responding to the milder strain.
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china not going after

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so why

would they go after

people in their own



no swallow
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Exactly. Usually the flashpoint is a deadzone. China wouldn't kill itself.
 Quoting: MissCleo


news all has

33 million listed

imprimata
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At first I thought no big deal but the videos are extremely alarming. Disney closing a business that will lose millions by doing so is concerning. If this is a true pandemic we will know it soon.

On the news last night in our area they had a news segment on asking people not to come to the hospital because you can infect others. Gave advice on what to do but to stay home. The segment was being done with a very large children’s hospital that serves a very large area.

If this gets to pandemic level then heed the advice stay in your home, hydrate don’t spread it to others. The hospital is not going to be able to do much to save you when there is no cure. You will just be infecting others.

For now learn what you can to avoid it getting sick. Keep your immune system strong, wash hands, don’t touch your face, stay out of crowds.

As a nurse I pray this is not a pandemic in the making.
 Quoting: Dee49


quarantine!

This means you must have food for 28 days in your house. And you cannot leave. Talk this over with your families.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I wish I could do that but I have two businesses in healthcare. Medical transportation and care of elderly. I have already been thinking about the impact. I once was a nursing superior on during a local emergency and I know what will happen - staff want to leave to be with their own families and that was 25 years ago, in today’s world it will be far worse for abandonment.

This may not be the one but one day a pandemic will hit us again. Hoping I am retired when it happens and up in the mountains away from others.
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The common flu kills 0.01 percent that get sick, the China virus is killing about 2 percent or more, that equals the 1920 pandemic..

Your thread is a major FAIL...

stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78359573


This the main point. Normal flu does kill and I see it every week at work - mainly in the old and infirm. But a 2-3% death rate with this kind of spread rate is something else!

The next pandemic flu was just waiting to happen and this might be it.

If it comes to nothing that is a good thing but China shutting down 14 cities is a real big!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


The fact that medical staff are now becoming infected is no bueno.

At first yeah I thought this was all hype, but when's the last time you saw a city getting quarantined due to the flu.
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®




This exactly.
 Quoting: The F Shack



Yes, exactly indeed. I have seen many doom fails on here, but this seems different. In all my years, never seen them quarantine a whole city for the flu.
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It only affects Chinkies

Go to Grumpier's Angel Help thread he gives a full explanation.

The Angels switched it at the last minute to only affect Chinese.

Gutted Chinkies!
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Can I just throw this out here?

China's pork industry was severely affected by swine flu recently. Is it possible this virus is contracted by consuming contaminated pork and the rest is kind of a cover-up?

The timing is uncanny, in more ways than one.
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At first I thought no big deal but the videos are extremely alarming. Disney closing a business that will lose millions by doing so is concerning. If this is a true pandemic we will know it soon.

On the news last night in our area they had a news segment on asking people not to come to the hospital because you can infect others. Gave advice on what to do but to stay home. The segment was being done with a very large children’s hospital that serves a very large area.

If this gets to pandemic level then heed the advice stay in your home, hydrate don’t spread it to others. The hospital is not going to be able to do much to save you when there is no cure. You will just be infecting others.

For now learn what you can to avoid it getting sick. Keep your immune system strong, wash hands, don’t touch your face, stay out of crowds.

As a nurse I pray this is not a pandemic in the making.
 Quoting: Dee49


quarantine!

This means you must have food for 28 days in your house. And you cannot leave. Talk this over with your families.
 Quoting: MissCleo


I wish I could do that but I have two businesses in healthcare. Medical transportation and care of elderly. I have already been thinking about the impact. I once was a nursing superior on during a local emergency and I know what will happen - staff want to leave to be with their own families and that was 25 years ago, in today’s world it will be far worse for abandonment.

This may not be the one but one day a pandemic will hit us again. Hoping I am retired when it happens and up in the mountains away from others.
 Quoting: Dee49


I hear you.

There will be hard decisions to make for sure.
I've talked to elderly and they aren't stupid, they know the consequences of their situations for the most part. At times of disaster we do our best to bring comfort and must know the boundaries for sustainability.

Rarely do we discuss the morgues, and we should.
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Bloody hell! The common flu will kill more this year.

Don't fall for this obvious fear distraction.
 Quoting: Pink Floyd Forever


I really hope you are correct, but this does have a different feel to it. The shutting down of cities is the one thing that has me wondering....

Maybe just diverting attention to something much larger?

I dont know. Time will tell.......
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I felt that way about ebola and it kindof petered out.
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It only affects Chinkies

Go to Grumpier's Angel Help thread he gives a full explanation.

The Angels switched it at the last minute to only affect Chinese.

Gutted Chinkies!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12921000


Woe to you... If you think the "angels" switched it like that, you have a beer dark soul indeed.
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It only affects Chinkies

Go to Grumpier's Angel Help thread he gives a full explanation.

The Angels switched it at the last minute to only affect Chinese.

Gutted Chinkies!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12921000


Woe to you... If you think the "angels" switched it like that, you have a beer dark soul indeed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77701154


Very dark - not "beer dark". Dang auto correct!





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