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User ID: 72697157 Canada 01/25/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] Quoting: TheTruthMonger™ "No link with seafood market in first case of China coronavirus, Chinese scientists revealed. Quoting: The ArticleResearchers into initial cases find first person with symptoms had no contact with market where disease is believed to have originated." [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] In my opinion, this further emboldens the case of this being a bioweapon or an accidental release from the nearby BSL-4 lab, or both. :damnedbig: Where is this BSL-4 lab? Google maps link please |
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User ID: 77970696 Romania 01/25/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission "An Israeli biological warfare expert by the name of Dany Shoham, who is now with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University in Israel, believes that the deadly Wuhan virus is likely connected to one of China’s covert biological warfare laboratories; in this case, the Wuhan Institute of Virology. While there is a lot of speculation at this point, there are several truths that validate his concern. Shoham stated, “Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese biological weapons, at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment.” Dany Shoham was a lieutenant colonel and a senior analyst with the Israeli Military Intelligence for biological and chemical warfare, and he unquestionably states that biological tests that are run in these laboratories are ‘covert’. In addition to his suspicions, the US State Department believes that China has been partaking in covert biological warfare operations as well." [link to beholdisrael.org (secure)] |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission Where is their published research paper? [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] “The genetics can tell us the true timing of the first cases” and whether they occurred earlier than officials realized, said molecular biologist Kristian Andersen of Scripps Research, an expert on viral genomes. “It can also tell us how the outbreak started — from a single event of a virus jumping from an infected animal to a person or from a lot of animals being infected. And the genetics can tell us what’s sustaining the outbreak — new introductions from animals or human-to-human transmission.” Since the sequencing of the first 2019-nCoV sample, from an early patient, scientists have completed nearly two dozen more, said Andrew Rambaut of the University of Edinburgh, an expert on viral evolution. That pace is “unprecedented and completely unbelievable,” said Andersen, who worked on sequencing the Ebola genome during the 2014 outbreak. “It’s just insane.” The genome of the Wuhan virus is 29,903 bases long, one of many clues that have led scientists to believe it is very similar to SARS. By comparing the two dozen genomes, scientists can address the “when did this start” question. The 24 available samples, including from Thailand and Shenzhen as well as Wuhan, show “very limited genetic variation,” Rambaut concluded on an online discussion forum where virologists have been sharing data and analyses. “This is indicative of a relatively recent common ancestor for all these viruses.” Given what’s known about the pace at which viral genomes mutate, if nCoV had been circulating in humans since significantly before the first case was reported on Dec. 8, the 24 genomes would differ more. Applying ballpark rates of viral evolution, Rambaut estimates that the Adam (or Eve) virus from which all others are descended first appeared no earlier than Oct. 30, 2019, and no later than Nov. 29. The progenitor virus itself was almost certainly one that circulates harmlessly in bats (as SARS does) but has an “intermediate reservoir” in one or more animals that come into contact with people, Andersen said. Presumably, that reservoir is one of the species of animals at the Wuhan market thought to be ground zero for the outbreak. The ancestor of 2019-nCoV existed in that species for some unknown time, never infecting people, until by chance a single virus acquired a mutation that made it capable of jumping into and infecting humans. The genome sequences suggest that was a one-time-only jump. “The genomes [from the 24 samples] are very uniform,” Andersen said. “If there had been multiple introductions,” including from many different animals, “there would be more genomic diversity. This was a single introduction.” more at link.... |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission From your article. The first patient to die from the new coronavirus had continuous exposure to the market before he was admitted to hospital with a seven-day history of fever, cough and breathing difficulties, according to their report. Five days after the onset of symptoms, his wife, a 53-year-old woman with no known history of exposure to the market, also presented with pneumonia and was hospitalised in the isolation ward, they said. The absence of a link to the seafood market is one of the indicators for human-to-human transmission of the virus and the researchers identified another 13 patients who also had no direct exposure to the market. |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission I do not think anyone can say what animal or where this started, but to say definitely not the wet market? Seems a huge assumption.. |
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User ID: 78203045 Ireland 01/25/2020 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission Another Story that makes you wonder. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64698495 .. [link to www.cbc.ca (secure)] Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation clip- Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, her husband Keding Cheng and an unknown number of her students from China were removed from Canada's only level-4 lab on July 5, CBC News has learned. A Level 4 virology facility is a lab equipped to work with the most serious and deadly human and animal diseases. .. While there are few details available, experts say this could be a case of intellectual property theft or technology leakage to China. "The National Microbiology Laboratory would have some pretty sensitive biological research material that ... could be shared either with or without authorization with foreign countries," GOOD FIND! Links to [link to www.sciencemag.org (secure)] (April 19, 2019 article) ...a sweeping effort launched last year by NIH to address growing U.S. government fears that foreign nations, particularly China, are taking unfair advantage of federally funded research ...China’s Thousand Talents Program, an effort started in 2008 to establish ties with ethnically Chinese scientists working outside of China by offering funding, salary, and other research support A 2015 FBI Counterintelligence Division handout argued that recruiting scientists through programs such as Thousand Talents allows China to "benefit from years of scientific research conducted in the United States" and "severely impacts the U.S. economy." Last Edited by WatchingEddyMin on 01/25/2020 05:32 PM "Doom! Doom! Doom! Something seems to whisper it in the very dark trees of America." - DH Lawrence "If any question why we died, tell them because our father's lied" Epitaphs of War, Rudyard Kipling (lost son in WW1) |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 01/25/2020 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission In my opinion, this further emboldens the case of this being a bioweapon or an accidental release from the nearby BSL-4 lab, or both. Quoting: TheTruthMonger™ Absolutely. They obviously just made up the Wuhan fish market bullshit as cover. Genome sequencing would have pointed to this.. because this is a novel strain, it points more to a natural mutation. It is not a splice of known variants. Unfortunately, genetic analysis can’t identify what animal species the coronavirus jumped from into humans. But an analysis by a team from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, posted to the preprint server bioRxiv, determined that the genome of this coronavirus (the seventh known to infect humans) is 96% identical to that of a bat coronavirus, suggesting that species is the original source. (Writing in the New England Journal of Medicine on Friday, another team of scientists in China reported that the new coronavirus is 86.9% identical to the bat SARS-like coronavirus.) [link to www.statnews.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 77491669 United States 01/25/2020 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission It's definitely a bio-weapon. But did China release it by accident or did an enemy sabotage the bio-weapons lab? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76870401 And if it were an act of sabotage...You would have to be willing to "off" yourself (as the original vector) as well as China. You would ALSO have to have such an all-consumming HATRED of CHINA to sabotage a Level 4 bio-lab as your motivation. So...who in the world HATES China the most? (I'm staying out of this vote!) O'sCookie I'm leaning towards accident, but I think sabotage is possible. If it was sabotage, will China retaliate and how would they do so? They will never find out who did it if it was sabotage, especially if it was the usual suspect. Who has the motive to make sure they are in control of the NWO and 5 G, not China? Who has that motive? I think O's Cookie knows. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73106316 United States 01/25/2020 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission Anybody here old enough to remember this, Novel Swine Flu out break in 2008- 2009. Does anybody here remember when Baxter International shipped to 18 Countries a bad lot of vaccines that when tested killed Ferrets in India? Along that timeline, Veri-chip became Positive I.D. and their stocks shot up 170 % overnight when they announced that they had incorporated a flu sensor with the Veri-chip. The former head of distribution for Baxter was Michael Barb who later took a job as head of Positive I.D. |
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CK Dexter Haven
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76870401 United States 01/25/2020 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission It's definitely a bio-weapon. But did China release it by accident or did an enemy sabotage the bio-weapons lab? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76870401 And if it were an act of sabotage...You would have to be willing to "off" yourself (as the original vector) as well as China. You would ALSO have to have such an all-consumming HATRED of CHINA to sabotage a Level 4 bio-lab as your motivation. So...who in the world HATES China the most? (I'm staying out of this vote!) O'sCookie I'm leaning towards accident, but I think sabotage is possible. If it was sabotage, will China retaliate and how would they do so? They will never find out who did it if it was sabotage, especially if it was the usual suspect. Who has the motive to make sure they are in control of the NWO and 5 G, not China? Who has that motive? I think O's Cookie knows. I know as well. But it seems like such a risky move even for the usual suspect. That's why I'm still leaning towards accident. |
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User ID: 77935151 Canada 01/25/2020 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission Example: Three months ago, a purported member of a U.S. intelligence agency took to /pol/ and began leaking information that a deadly pathogen has escaped containment in China at a military research facility and killed 5,000 in the vicinity before it was believed to be contained. [link to twitter.com (secure)] The Voice Of Reason @THEWATCHTOWERS |
Google_It
User ID: 77935151 Canada 01/25/2020 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission Example: Three months ago, a purported member of a U.S. intelligence agency took to /pol/ and began leaking information that a deadly pathogen has escaped containment in China at a military research facility and killed 5,000 in the vicinity before it was believed to be contained. Quoting: Google_It [link to twitter.com (secure)] Bill gates institute also at that time ran the pandemic numbers and modelled an outbreak... I know one billionaire who donated $26 million to the Clinton Foundation He coincidentally ran a airborne pandemic simulation just a few months ago. He also was an angel investor in Oxitec who brought us the Zika Virus He sterilized thousands of women with free vaccines [link to twitter.com (secure)] The Voice Of Reason @THEWATCHTOWERS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77389085 France 01/25/2020 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission SOUNDS LIKE A BIOWEAPON!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77955198 Corona virus was patented years ago - WHY? They didn't use it for a "vaccine" so why is it patented? Answer: Because it was WEAPONIZED. Now it's been released in China. same as the SARS story...US bioweapon relised in china, has been able to inflict a huge economic loss to china econony. |
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nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 01/25/2020 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission The article is meant to show that it's airborne. Not that it never originated from the market. That's the message I get. * Researchers into initial cases find first person with symptoms had no contact with market where disease is believed to have originated. * Call for preparedness against airborne transmission * The first person known to have been infected by the Wuhan coronavirus had never visited the city’s seafood market * The absence of a link to the seafood market is one of the indicators for human-to-human transmission of the virus and the researchers identified another 13 patients who also had no direct exposure to the market. Last Edited by nutmeg on 01/25/2020 07:53 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77145628 New Zealand 01/25/2020 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission "An Israeli biological warfare expert by the name of Dany Shoham, who is now with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University in Israel, believes that the deadly Wuhan virus is likely connected to one of China’s covert biological warfare laboratories; in this case, the Wuhan Institute of Virology. While there is a lot of speculation at this point, there are several truths that validate his concern. Shoham stated, “Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese biological weapons, at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment.” Quoting: CK Dexter Haven Dany Shoham was a lieutenant colonel and a senior analyst with the Israeli Military Intelligence for biological and chemical warfare, and he unquestionably states that biological tests that are run in these laboratories are ‘covert’. In addition to his suspicions, the US State Department believes that China has been partaking in covert biological warfare operations as well." [link to beholdisrael.org (secure)] damn son, lol a lt col in naval intelligence, you say...this is the closest you will get to a reveal, telling where that reveal came from huh... [/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 78176490 United States 01/25/2020 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission Well, according to the patent on the virus, it was created by the CDC so.... “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77203973 United States 01/25/2020 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] Quoting: TheTruthMonger™ "No link with seafood market in first case of China coronavirus, Chinese scientists revealed. Quoting: The ArticleResearchers into initial cases find first person with symptoms had no contact with market where disease is believed to have originated." [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] In my opinion, this further emboldens the case of this being a bioweapon or an accidental release from the nearby BSL-4 lab, or both. :damnedbig: Where is this BSL-4 lab? Google maps link please You think Governments are gonna put thier secret labs on google maps. Let's be fucking real. Not even the US does that. This shit didn't start in Wuhan. Wuhan is where they're trying to make a valiant stand, before this thing takes off. Wherever, this started isn't there anymore. If and when, God forbid this crosses the ocean. You haven't seen anything yet. This is just the beginning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78308212 United States 01/25/2020 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] "No link with seafood market in first case of China coronavirus, Chinese scientists revealed. Quoting: The ArticleResearchers into initial cases find first person with symptoms had no contact with market where disease is believed to have originated." [link to www.scmp.com (secure)] In my opinion, this further emboldens the case of this being a bioweapon or an accidental release from the nearby BSL-4 lab, or both. I totally agree. It seems that the truth is slowly leaking out - and it's a chilling truth indeed. When I read the nature article about that lab in Wuhan, in particular the part where they said other international scientists were concerned about the possibility of an accidental release, I shuddered. |
yerpvana
User ID: 77155497 United States 01/25/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission People look to have bleeding lungs and going into convulsions. Are they sure its not a cross weaponized virus of rabies and the cold? Or just weaponized air born rabies. Last Edited by messagehalted on 01/25/2020 09:04 PM All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 01/25/2020 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: No link with Wuhan market in first known symptomatic case of China coronavirus, confirming human to human transmission From your article. Quoting: Tangy The first patient to die from the new coronavirus had continuous exposure to the market before he was admitted to hospital with a seven-day history of fever, cough and breathing difficulties, according to their report. Five days after the onset of symptoms, his wife, a 53-year-old woman with no known history of exposure to the market, also presented with pneumonia and was hospitalised in the isolation ward, they said. The absence of a link to the seafood market is one of the indicators for human-to-human transmission of the virus and the researchers identified another 13 patients who also had no direct exposure to the market. Yep! Thank you! |