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The CDC’s credibility is in severe doubt after whistleblower Dr. William Thompson revealed that they had discovered a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, but disposed of the data. Additional whistleblowers have come forth exposing the CDC for manipulating data, engaging in corporate alliances, and committing scientific fraud.

One of the new explosive allegations against the CDC from over a dozen employees is that the CDC’s mission is influenced by rogue parties and outside interests, cheating taxpayers. The group of whistleblowers is better known as SPIDER (Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research.) SPIDER claims that the CDC bypasses Congress’ intentions for the program. Unethical practices are undermining the federal agency’s integrity and credibility.

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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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The CDC’s credibility is in severe doubt after whistleblower Dr. William Thompson revealed that they had discovered a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, but disposed of the data. Additional whistleblowers have come forth exposing the CDC for manipulating data, engaging in corporate alliances, and committing scientific fraud.

One of the new explosive allegations against the CDC from over a dozen employees is that the CDC’s mission is influenced by rogue parties and outside interests, cheating taxpayers. The group of whistleblowers is better known as SPIDER (Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research.) SPIDER claims that the CDC bypasses Congress’ intentions for the program. Unethical practices are undermining the federal agency’s integrity and credibility.

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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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Post your links supporting your claim.
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Article from 2016. What's the deal with people on GLP posting articles that are years old and presenting it as if it's late breaking news?

It's a pattern on this website that I don't see elsewhere.
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The CDC’s credibility is in severe doubt after whistleblower Dr. William Thompson revealed that they had discovered a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, but disposed of the data. Additional whistleblowers have come forth exposing the CDC for manipulating data, engaging in corporate alliances, and committing scientific fraud.

One of the new explosive allegations against the CDC from over a dozen employees is that the CDC’s mission is influenced by rogue parties and outside interests, cheating taxpayers. The group of whistleblowers is better known as SPIDER (Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research.) SPIDER claims that the CDC bypasses Congress’ intentions for the program. Unethical practices are undermining the federal agency’s integrity and credibility.

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Once again, old worthless shit gets pinned.
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CDC is corrupt as fuck and has been long before 2015!
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Article from 2016. What's the deal with people on GLP posting articles that are years old and presenting it as if it's late breaking news?

It's a pattern on this website that I don't see elsewhere.
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Still relevant since they did try to hide it
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Article from 2016. What's the deal with people on GLP posting articles that are years old and presenting it as if it's late breaking news?

It's a pattern on this website that I don't see elsewhere.
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Still relevant since they did try to hide it
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Every time an old ass news article gets posted ppl come running to defend it saying b-but it’s still relevant! How about I post the eternally relevant “War is a racket” (1935) once a week, will I get pinned every time?

People are too quick to pin here.
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If you search for “CDC whistleblower” there are ELEVEN threads about this same story starting from 2014. Why not just pin one of those threads? Why encourage reposting OLD NEWS and getting people all worked up like something new happened.

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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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So what if it is from 2015. Stop being naive about the CDC. They have been caught lying about many many things.
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So what if it is from 2015. Stop being naive about the CDC. They have been caught lying about many many things.
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Presenting this as if it is new news in the midst of the Coronavirus is fear mongering. Plain and simple. Why not just boost an old thread? Or say REMINDER: This is what the CDC did.

Please stop defending fear mongering and reposting/pinning of old news.
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Logic + Simplicity. If he's not worried I'm not worried.

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Logic + Simplicity. If he's not worried I'm not worried.

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+ Good listening skills.

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I trust the CDC about as much as I trust my Mother=in=law.........
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Article from 2016. What's the deal with people on GLP posting articles that are years old and presenting it as if it's late breaking news?

It's a pattern on this website that I don't see elsewhere.
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do you realize how many noobs visit this site.

ok gotcha some might be longtime members.

the younger generations knows how to use the tools to track down origination of documents and images.

settle down. just help people out to get correct info. you don't have to chastise people because you have a tool at your disposal. use it and shut up about it.

you think someone is doing it consistently and on purpose, heck call their ass out on it.

but other wise lets work together. this is just the beginning kid. road ahead is going to get a lot worse. buckle up. and worry about the bigger picture.

good luck
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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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What childhood disabilities did they find in the African American boys that they did not find in others?
You say the reason there were more blacks getting autism than other races Only because they changed the definition which somehow resulted in a Higher number of African Americans suddenly being labeled as autistic but you don't ever actually say what it was that caused the decsrepan y
I'm pretty sure your explanation is racist and that's why you are dancing so hard around it
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Article from 2016. What's the deal with people on GLP posting articles that are years old and presenting it as if it's late breaking news?

It's a pattern on this website that I don't see elsewhere.
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do you realize how many noobs visit this site.

ok gotcha some might be longtime members.

the younger generations knows how to use the tools to track down origination of documents and images.

settle down. just help people out to get correct info. you don't have to chastise people because you have a tool at your disposal. use it and shut up about it.

you think someone is doing it consistently and on purpose, heck call their ass out on it.

but other wise lets work together. this is just the beginning kid. road ahead is going to get a lot worse. buckle up. and worry about the bigger picture.

good luck
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The bad thing about this is that old stuff like this is consistently pinned.
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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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its cute that you buy into the propaganda that they fed you instead of the truth.
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CDC is corrupt as fuck and has been long before 2015!
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The entire world is corrupt right down to the local dog catcher.


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Article from 2016. What's the deal with people on GLP posting articles that are years old and presenting it as if it's late breaking news?

It's a pattern on this website that I don't see elsewhere.
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That's because people here is spread false information and lies to perpetuate their fascination with some sort of doom. People here are plastic pussies. They need to get a life
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Since most Americans can remember and retain less than a mushroom, I appreciate being reminded of past government corruption. I have yet to see a government agency held accountable and fixed.
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Ask the CDC to forward a REFERENCED photo of the "H1N1 virus" or the "HIV virus" or even the "measles virus" (surely they've seen the measles virus before, right??).
Sorry, none exist and if anyone supplies one they cannot offer a source because NOT A SINGLE VIRUS IN EXISTENCE HAS EVER BEEN ISOLATED IN A HUMAN PATIENT INCLUDING THE NEW CORONA VIRUS.
In turn, you cannot see or photograph what you cannot isolate. An electron microscope is able to view matter at the DNA level of the theorized "virus" so THAT is no longer an excuse for not producing an image of one.

Let that simple fact sink in. Every photo of a virus in a textbook or on an "authoritative website" is
100% fictional
yet there (((they))) are inserting them anyway TO BETTER SELL YOU THEIR UNDERLYING AGENDAS.

Yet you're meant to believe unquestionably that they can develop a test for something they lied about having seen under a microscope before.

VIRUSES ARE THE ULTIMATE J-EW PSYOP TO GENERATE FEAR WHICH FACILITATES DELIBERATE POISONING OF YOUR CHILDREN VIA VAXXRAPING AND REMOVAL OF YOUR BASIC RIGHTS
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Keep seeing your comment- what are you saying this is then, bacterial????
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If you control the CDC you control the actual statistics and the processes that lead to cures.

Nancy Pelosi let it slip the other day in a corridor interview that President Trump was using the CDC's left over Ebola funds PRIOR to asking Congress for any money to fight Corvid 19.

Trump ordered the CDC to use Ebola funds that had not been spent, to do research into fighting Corvid 19 well before people started to freak out.

Now here is where it gets strange...

The CDC sent out testing kits that didn't work.

The CDC dragged its feet to coordinate efforts across the country.

The CDC has limited who can create testing kits and said only they will be performing the tests.

The CDC may have purposely lied to President Trump on the actual numbers of Corvid 19 victims in the US.

If the numbers of those infected by Corvid 19 are actually greater than we are being lead to believe it is the CDC that is controlling the data and who sees it.

And Pelosi seems to know more about what the CDC is doing than President Trump and the American public does, I personally think the democrats are getting the truth about Corvid 19 and President Trump is getting bullshit from the CDC.
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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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Post your links supporting your claim.
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Forbes,Aug 6 2015, author Emily Willingham. Forbes.com. Google Dr Thomson and this is the first article but it has others and not directly on this topic but in general. This article goes into detail on what the antivax folks call, " the garbage can quote" and why it has been twisted to have cover up intent. My problem is the same as I have with God(s) claims. State your evidence. The autism crowd or the antivax crowd, seem to have a unproven claim that causes them to cast evil intent on those on the other side. Stop telling me their all in it for the money and will harm children to make a buck. We all know history has shown the evil men have done for money. However, their claim is everybody is in on it. The doctors, researchers, pharma, the govt,every hospital and clinc. All of em happily or out of terrible fears of "they", inject our children with poison, KNOWINGLY! I am a bit older and I remember getting the sugar cube with a pink dot, Salk vaccine. Sometime, 80's?, it was reported that some of the batches contained cancer cells. These were not known or detected at the time and obviously nothing they could do about it. Plus sence everybody took the sugar cubes, they had no group to compare it to. No control groups. So no concrete way to tell how many or any folks with cancer was linked to the sugar cube vaccination. The MMR, there was mercury in some early groups but that was removed decades ago. We learn more and adjust. With Autism, other childhood behaviors and learning disabilities were added to Autism's protocol which resulted in a much larger pool of patients. MMR has never been proven to be a cause or that term "linked" to Autism. You have a few doctors, researchers who have made claims. That's all. On the other side you have the entire medical field saying no evidence.I have zero connection to the medical field big, or little, pharma. But i had 3 kids and now have 15 grandkids and I have a personal interest for their well being. I know so far MMR on all 15 and zero Autism.I have asked all our doctors about this and all said their kids received the MMR. However if there is some good evidence of the MMR claims, I'm all ears. Sadly, with all the false and cherry picked quotes and claims, I just dont believe them. The anti medical groups arw out there and if your kid has Autism you are searching for answers and solutions. These folks won't help you, but a doctor or researcher might. We hope.
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The CDC has nose up the WHO's ass so deep they can't see where they are going. This is a worthless organization that b=needs a good house cleaning. Start at the top, and fire everybody, until you start finding people that will speak honestly about autism and the the MMR vaccine. That will probably leave about half the research staff and no management at all.
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Why do you lie? This is from a 2015 story. The findings were a study showed Africa American young boys had a higher rate of Autism. There was a discussion of deleting the race due to concerns of racism. No data was destroyed but hard copies were. You can do the same, open Word, print the 1st document you find. Now rip that hard copy in two. You have destroyed the hard copy! However, the document is alive and well. In addition other researchers, have reviewed the same data and found no likk with MMR and Autism. The single biggest reason for the increase was the changing of the defination and inclusion of other childhood disabilities now falling under the Autism umbrella. For example, if a sore throat was to be included as pneumonia diagnoses, we would have a huge increase in pneumonia cases. However, there would actually be no increase. You can find confirmation bias for almost any topic. Google Dr Thompson's name and you can read the details from a few different sources.
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So what if it is from 2015. Stop being naive about the CDC. They have been caught lying about many many things.
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This claim. This claim. Try http/snopes.com/fact/check/bad-medicine. People lie about the CDC. Believe me, I do not trust anybody on everything. Not just for bad intent but people seem to hate saying "I dont know". The best you get is I dont know but...... Govnt. really hates to say it, people in authority shy away. So they say some BS until they do know, if ever. So the CDC has been less than truthful in the past. So have you and I, that doesnt mean were are lying scum never to be believed again. Doctors, CDC, researchers claim the MMR vaccine is a excellent vaccine to prevent Measles, mumps and Rubella. The dramatic decrease in cases of these three over the last few decades is very impressive.
It doesnt work for everyone, it has side effects and could harm some. Just like everything else. However, Autism doesnt appear to be one. This particular claim misses the point. The research showed there was no 350% increase among African American youths. The infighting and disagreements seem fairly normal in a open honest back and forth. What can we say? How do we say it, etc. The research is the story, no there was no increase etc.,
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What's the over/under each of them die mysteriously?
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The CDC’s credibility is in severe doubt after whistleblower Dr. William Thompson revealed that they had discovered a link between the MMR vaccine and autism, but disposed of the data. Additional whistleblowers have come forth exposing the CDC for manipulating data, engaging in corporate alliances, and committing scientific fraud.

One of the new explosive allegations against the CDC from over a dozen employees is that the CDC’s mission is influenced by rogue parties and outside interests, cheating taxpayers. The group of whistleblowers is better known as SPIDER (Scientists Preserving Integrity, Diligence and Ethics in Research.) SPIDER claims that the CDC bypasses Congress’ intentions for the program. Unethical practices are undermining the federal agency’s integrity and credibility.

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Wonder how many will end up suicided?
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Greedy and unethical scientists distorting reality to pump more money out of the tax payer for years and years.

Im sure the left will blame it on Trump too.





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