UK COVID-19 Action Plan - doesn't say a lot? | |
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(OP) User ID: 78558424 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think its obvious from the pressie that they know what the worse case will be. They are very worried about the peak of infection/cases/hospitalisations and they seems to be their focus. How they will do that is not in the plan! Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 03/03/2020 07:28 AM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25783156 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" |
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(OP) User ID: 78558424 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | List of other documents related to the plan: [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
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(OP) User ID: 78558424 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lack of content implies this is more of a stalling panic situation than anything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25783156 Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78474666 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lack of content implies this is more of a stalling panic situation than anything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25783156 Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). Even mentioned 1918 in press conference why bother with that if this thing is fine and dandy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25783156 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lack of content implies this is more of a stalling panic situation than anything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25783156 Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). I have spoken to many of my friends about this (or tried) and have been met with nothing but contempt to be honest. Noone knows I come on GLP, im not a prepper and I've never bigged up any other situations that turned into nothing like ebola (not that theres anything wrong with any of those things). My point is that they have no reason to discount what I say based on their opinions of me. I have friends who work in government positions, doctors, salesmen, bartenders and a range of others and noone thinks this is a real issue. My friend who is a doctor quite aggresively disagreed that this is more dangerous than the flu based on CFR's even when I showed them evidence. Theyre even going skiing in Northern Italy next week and their only concern is that the hospital will ask them not to work for 2 weeks! This is coming from a doctor. No matter what happens, whether this gets as bad as Spanish Flu or whether it gets contained, it has already been a serious pandemic and it is insane how little people care. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78548373 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lack of content implies this is more of a stalling panic situation than anything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25783156 Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). I have spoken to many of my friends about this (or tried) and have been met with nothing but contempt to be honest. Noone knows I come on GLP, im not a prepper and I've never bigged up any other situations that turned into nothing like ebola (not that theres anything wrong with any of those things). My point is that they have no reason to discount what I say based on their opinions of me. I have friends who work in government positions, doctors, salesmen, bartenders and a range of others and noone thinks this is a real issue. My friend who is a doctor quite aggresively disagreed that this is more dangerous than the flu based on CFR's even when I showed them evidence. Theyre even going skiing in Northern Italy next week and their only concern is that the hospital will ask them not to work for 2 weeks! This is coming from a doctor. No matter what happens, whether this gets as bad as Spanish Flu or whether it gets contained, it has already been a serious pandemic and it is insane how little people care. Is he a young doctor? I feel older people(some of them) will see what's coming. But going skiing in northern Italy is utter madness or utter ignorant and selfish and putting people here at risk |
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(OP) User ID: 78558424 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lack of content implies this is more of a stalling panic situation than anything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25783156 Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). I have spoken to many of my friends about this (or tried) and have been met with nothing but contempt to be honest. Noone knows I come on GLP, im not a prepper and I've never bigged up any other situations that turned into nothing like ebola (not that theres anything wrong with any of those things). My point is that they have no reason to discount what I say based on their opinions of me. I have friends who work in government positions, doctors, salesmen, bartenders and a range of others and noone thinks this is a real issue. My friend who is a doctor quite aggresively disagreed that this is more dangerous than the flu based on CFR's even when I showed them evidence. Theyre even going skiing in Northern Italy next week and their only concern is that the hospital will ask them not to work for 2 weeks! This is coming from a doctor. No matter what happens, whether this gets as bad as Spanish Flu or whether it gets contained, it has already been a serious pandemic and it is insane how little people care. Is he a young doctor? I feel older people(some of them) will see what's coming. But going skiing in northern Italy is utter madness or utter ignorant and selfish and putting people here at risk If only most of us could afford to go skiing - have you seen the cost!!! Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 03/03/2020 07:57 AM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25783156 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ParamedicUK Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). I have spoken to many of my friends about this (or tried) and have been met with nothing but contempt to be honest. Noone knows I come on GLP, im not a prepper and I've never bigged up any other situations that turned into nothing like ebola (not that theres anything wrong with any of those things). My point is that they have no reason to discount what I say based on their opinions of me. I have friends who work in government positions, doctors, salesmen, bartenders and a range of others and noone thinks this is a real issue. My friend who is a doctor quite aggresively disagreed that this is more dangerous than the flu based on CFR's even when I showed them evidence. Theyre even going skiing in Northern Italy next week and their only concern is that the hospital will ask them not to work for 2 weeks! This is coming from a doctor. No matter what happens, whether this gets as bad as Spanish Flu or whether it gets contained, it has already been a serious pandemic and it is insane how little people care. Is he a young doctor? I feel older people(some of them) will see what's coming. But going skiing in northern Italy is utter madness or utter ignorant and selfish and putting people here at risk If only most of us could afford to go skiing - have you seen the cost!!! Haha completely agree! Ive started calling this the posh plague, as its all the people whove been off skiing for half term who have brought it here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25783156 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The lack of content implies this is more of a stalling panic situation than anything else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25783156 Also implied with the quesiton dodging of the NHS question coupled with the complete lack of explanations of how they will achieve any of the things they have set out. Ive always felt that Bo Jos ethos is one of just telling the public whatever they want to hear and acting the clown so theyll just leave him alone. Definitely not a transparent government and that seems to be reflected by this "plan" Stalling yes - he had to come out and say something important so he did (not). I have spoken to many of my friends about this (or tried) and have been met with nothing but contempt to be honest. Noone knows I come on GLP, im not a prepper and I've never bigged up any other situations that turned into nothing like ebola (not that theres anything wrong with any of those things). My point is that they have no reason to discount what I say based on their opinions of me. I have friends who work in government positions, doctors, salesmen, bartenders and a range of others and noone thinks this is a real issue. My friend who is a doctor quite aggresively disagreed that this is more dangerous than the flu based on CFR's even when I showed them evidence. Theyre even going skiing in Northern Italy next week and their only concern is that the hospital will ask them not to work for 2 weeks! This is coming from a doctor. No matter what happens, whether this gets as bad as Spanish Flu or whether it gets contained, it has already been a serious pandemic and it is insane how little people care. Is he a young doctor? I feel older people(some of them) will see what's coming. But going skiing in northern Italy is utter madness or utter ignorant and selfish and putting people here at risk He is a young doctor, I personally have been using Dr John Campbell on youtube as the canary for how seriously I should be taking this and he seems to be getting more and more worried. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78547148 United Kingdom 03/03/2020 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's much ado about nothing, it seems. In other news, a student from Singapore was allegedly attacked last Monday on Oxford Street, after people shouted at him regarding coronavirus. The Met Police are investigating. I wonder if there were any witnesses... I just found the timing interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78554980 Croatia 03/03/2020 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The UK plan Quoting: ParamedicUK [link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)] What was amazing in the plan was the list of Chinese references at the end - have a look. Bottom line: It could as bad as the Spanish Flu of 1918 but based on Chinese figures it probably won't be. We will spread the peak of infection out so the already buggered NHS will be able to cope. (no mention how) Will probably be ok to keep schools open as kids are not hit very hard and we need the parents in work! 20% of the work force will be off sick. 2-3 months to peak and 2-3 months to fully recover. 6 months. Will be okay to travel as it will be everywhere anyway. The army ready if needed. let us start form beginning Introduction 1.1 The current novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak, which began in December 2019, presents a significant challenge for the entire world it did not start in December 2019. it was first detected in December. if you look at the changing rate of genome it shows 95% certainty that it started in august (8/2019). [link to nextstrain.org (secure)] and this is just the opening sentence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78554980 Croatia 03/03/2020 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will be in contact all the time. there is no point in getting disposable equipment. it would give you more assurance, but.. Get your self rain suit [link to www.amazon.co.uk (secure)] boots [link to www.amazon.co.uk (secure)] you will get face masks..but if you do not get full face mask and couple of filters [link to www.amazon.co.uk (secure)] and, of course disinfect everything (including your self) after every patient. [link to www.amazon.co.uk (secure)] you should get a little more thicker gloves than surgical ones. in that way you can use them multiple times. do not count on getting it. we still do not know what is mortality from this. it could be 100% in long enough timeline. |
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User ID: 77899316 United States 03/03/2020 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The UK plan Quoting: ParamedicUK [link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)] What was amazing in the plan was the list of Chinese references at the end - have a look. Bottom line: It could as bad as the Spanish Flu of 1918 but based on Chinese figures it probably won't be. We will spread the peak of infection out so the already buggered NHS will be able to cope. (no mention how) Will probably be ok to keep schools open as kids are not hit very hard and we need the parents in work! 20% of the work force will be off sick. 2-3 months to peak and 2-3 months to fully recover. 6 months. Will be okay to travel as it will be everywhere anyway. The army ready if needed. Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP |
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