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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78641467 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only reason I can think of shutting down everything is to slow the progression so the hospitals don’t get really over run where people who would survive can’t get treated. And making our medical community sick with exhaustion. Italy stopped treating those over 60 to give the young a chance. I’m older so I understand. Give the young a fighting chance. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449 No. Just no. Like so many older mature people, I've worked my backside off all my life. Paid all my taxes, paid all my bills, contributed years of my life to volunteering in many community support organisations etc. All my life I've paid into National Insurance that guarantees me 'world class healthcare' (according to the NHS). Like so many other mature people, I've sacrificed so much for my children. To make sure they had the best start in life. Like so many other mature parents, we see clearly that our adult children have much easier lives than we had (the obscene debts that the system makes them pay in student loans is NONE of our doing). Like so many other mature parents of adult children, I am the Bank of Mum and Dad still. What makes young people believe that I'm worth less than anyone else? What makes you, AC, believe that you're not worth caring for? Your line of thinking is a slippery slope. All the West's nations have some form of constitution that upholds equality, that guarantees no discrimination on any characteristic like sex, gender, race, age, disability, sexuality, religion etc etc. So here now, AC, you're advocating discriminating against me and yourself because or our mature years. What happens when, through some odd set of circumstances, some group misguidedly decides that, say, teenagers are a burden to society?? Will that be ok to refuse them life sustaining support and medical treatment? Because that's where your thin end of the wedge opinion leads - to arbitrary discrimination and culling of humans....just because ... It leads to selective genocide. You should note well. What we've found in the UK these past couple of weeks is that none of our community support systems on which millions of people, young and old and inbetween, rely are available or they're not working well enough to really help anyone. That's because they all rely on volunteers. Most of whom are mature people, just like you and me. And we were the first to be told to stay indoors. Take out one demographic - any one - and the whole population loses out majorly. (Don't come at me about money, whining that we can't afford care for older people. Bollocks. There's enough money out there to build a luxury hospital care suite for every single person that needs one. Trouble is, putting it crudely, our governments give that money to their billionaire chums in the form of tax rebates paid for by we the taxpayer.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77713810 Canada 03/26/2020 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] So they're downgrading the threat from the virus at the same time as they're upgrading the restrictions on the population? :fucky: Yeah, it's all fishy AF |
Accidental Stoner User ID: 78473529 Finland 03/26/2020 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] So they're downgrading the threat from the virus at the same time as they're upgrading the restrictions on the population? :fucky: Yeah, it's all fishy AF None of it makes any sense. How bloody frustrating. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78672090 United States 03/26/2020 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] What does Canada gain by trying to downplay this virus? Go play hockey, drink beer or film a new Fubar movie or somethin' eh? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78641467 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] So they're downgrading the threat from the virus at the same time as they're upgrading the restrictions on the population? :fucky: Yeah, it's all fishy AF Direct from BoJo the other night: In a televised address, he said a "moment of national emergency" meant staying at home was necessary to protect the NHS and save lives. The first thing I noted about that sentence was that the NHS is the priority. Saving lives comes second. For years now, BoJo's party has starved the NHS of funds to make it look like it needs to be privatised and 'run better' by commercial mobsters. Result - the NHS is on its knees anyway. It can't cope with a flu outbreak let alone a new, very contagious bug. Hell, you couldn't get to see a GP within a month before this covid19. God knows what the wait is now. What BoJo and his party are doing now is backfilling. Desperately trying to fill the gaps that they created. One of ways of aiding this backfilling is to slow down the spread of this non-High Consequence Infectious Disease so that the failing NHS has a shot at coping with some more patients than a high winter flu count. If they fail and the NHS fails the public, then the British people will ferociously never forgive them. They would not stand a chance of being voted back in next time round. That's the fishiness, in a nutshell. |
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Lance Roseman From BC
(OP) User ID: 77547432 Canada 03/26/2020 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump! If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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User ID: 78684976 Brazil 03/26/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, effetive March 19, UK GOVERNMENT put Cov19 at SAME level, for PUBLIC HEALTH POLICIES (actions), as H1N1, TUBERCULOSIS etc. and BELOW SARS-1 since Cov19 DOES HAVE a LOW fatality rate MEANING, NO NEED TO "CONSTRAIN" CIVIL RIGHTS (to work, for instance), which is EXCLUSIVE when "managing" HICDs those remainning in the list, like Ebola and SARS-1 FIVE STARS for this finding and sharing! YOUR US GOVERNORS AND MAYORS (neither indians, russians, brazilians etc.) DON'T HAVE ANYLONGER, since March 19, ANY "SCIENTIFIC" REASON TO KEEP CONSTRAINING peoples CIVIL RIGHTS "in name of" "caution" to a "possible" "highly dangerous" "new" disease since the "possible" keyword is no valid anylonger due to the CONCLUSION is NOT highly dangerous Last Edited by sunwatcher on 03/26/2020 04:25 PM I'm becoming an expert in identifying bikes'n'boats thanks to GLP |
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User ID: 78684976 Brazil 03/26/2020 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Essentially, effetive March 19, UK GOVERNMENT put Cov19 at SAME level, for PUBLIC HEALTH POLICIES (actions), as H1N1, TUBERCULOSIS etc. and BELOW SARS-1 since Cov19 DOES HAVE a LOW fatality rate Quoting: sunwatcher MEANING, NO NEED TO "CONSTRAIN" CIVIL RIGHTS (to work, for instance), which is EXCLUSIVE when "managing" HICDs those remainning in the list, like Ebola and SARS-1 FIVE STARS for this finding and sharing! YOUR US GOVERNORS AND MAYORS (neither indians, russians, brazilians etc.) DON'T HAVE ANYLONGER, since March 19, ANY "SCIENTIFIC" REASON TO KEEP CONSTRAINING peoples CIVIL RIGHTS "in name of" "caution" to a "possible" "highly dangerous" "new" disease since the "possible" keyword is no valid anylonger due to the CONCLUSION is NOT highly dangerous even though he basis of this logic is funded on the LOW fatality rate part, and fatality rate is a function of a country-specific ability / health structure of coping with the hard cases, the "high" emergency declarations are not reasonable anylonger at least in US, South Korea, Germany, and France, I think I'm becoming an expert in identifying bikes'n'boats thanks to GLP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689107 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] So they're downgrading the threat from the virus at the same time as they're upgrading the restrictions on the population? :fucky: they haven't got a clue what to do utter chaos |
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(OP) User ID: 77547432 Canada 03/26/2020 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] So they're downgrading the threat from the virus at the same time as they're upgrading the restrictions on the population? they haven't got a clue what to do utter chaos The sheople would revolt if governments didn't kow-tow to the WHO.... If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78641467 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] So they're downgrading the threat from the virus at the same time as they're upgrading the restrictions on the population? :fucky: Yeah, it's all fishy AF Direct from BoJo the other night: In a televised address, he said a "moment of national emergency" meant staying at home was necessary to protect the NHS and save lives. The first thing I noted about that sentence was that the NHS is the priority. Saving lives comes second. For years now, BoJo's party has starved the NHS of funds to make it look like it needs to be privatised and 'run better' by commercial mobsters. Result - the NHS is on its knees anyway. It can't cope with a flu outbreak let alone a new, very contagious bug. Hell, you couldn't get to see a GP within a month before this covid19. God knows what the wait is now. What BoJo and his party are doing now is backfilling. Desperately trying to fill the gaps that they created. One of ways of aiding this backfilling is to slow down the spread of this non-High Consequence Infectious Disease so that the failing NHS has a shot at coping with some more patients than a high winter flu count. If they fail and the NHS fails the public, then the British people will ferociously never forgive them. They would not stand a chance of being voted back in next time round. That's the fishiness, in a nutshell. Tory party/gov knows exactly how it's playing this Tory-created emergency. |
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(OP) User ID: 77547432 Canada 03/26/2020 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Fauci Ignores WHO Boss Crimes Against Humanity (19 MIn Polly) It's not a long vid.... If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76139074 Australia 03/26/2020 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] Flu death rate in the USA = 0.1% Coronavirus death rate in the USA is currently = 1.3% (that will go higher) 1 in 5 people who get the virus will have severe symptoms. 20% will get severe symptoms and 80% will get mild symptoms. The worst-case scenario according to the experts is 80% of the population will get the virus. There are roughly 327 million people living in America. That figure doesn't include the tens of millions living illegally in America. If 80% of the population gets the virus that means roughly 261 million people in America will get the virus. 1 in 5 (20%) of the 261 million who get the virus will get severe symptoms. That means roughly 52 million people will get severe symptoms. Flu infection rate = 1.3 – 1.4 Coronavirus infection rate = 3 [link to www.walesonline.co.uk (secure)] [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Now do you understand how bad this virus could get? I don't understand how you could be posting stats from the msm on a forum like this. Are you completely oblivious? The only thing we know for sure is that the msm lies and spreads misinfo, disinfo? Or do you think they would start telling the truth now all of a sudden. The evil monsters who own and dictate the msm grew a heart all of a sudden after all these years All you are doing is helping them spread fear. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78641467 United Kingdom 03/26/2020 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] Flu death rate in the USA = 0.1% Coronavirus death rate in the USA is currently = 1.3% (that will go higher) 1 in 5 people who get the virus will have severe symptoms. 20% will get severe symptoms and 80% will get mild symptoms. The worst-case scenario according to the experts is 80% of the population will get the virus. There are roughly 327 million people living in America. That figure doesn't include the tens of millions living illegally in America. If 80% of the population gets the virus that means roughly 261 million people in America will get the virus. 1 in 5 (20%) of the 261 million who get the virus will get severe symptoms. That means roughly 52 million people will get severe symptoms. Flu infection rate = 1.3 – 1.4 Coronavirus infection rate = 3 [link to www.walesonline.co.uk (secure)] [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Now do you understand how bad this virus could get? I don't understand how you could be posting stats from the msm on a forum like this. Are you completely oblivious? The only thing we know for sure is that the msm lies and spreads misinfo, disinfo? Or do you think they would start telling the truth now all of a sudden. The evil monsters who own and dictate the msm grew a heart all of a sudden after all these years All you are doing is helping them spread fear. The reality is that we just do not know for sure how many people have or haven't been infected. Because testing is very scant to say the least. Thus all figures, MSM or otherwise, are based on dodgy assumptions. |
Lance Roseman From BC
(OP) User ID: 77547432 Canada 03/26/2020 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So....run with this.... Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC [link to www.gov.uk (secure)] ANd then run with this [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] ANd then read this.... [link to blog.nomorefakenews.com (secure)] Flu death rate in the USA = 0.1% Coronavirus death rate in the USA is currently = 1.3% (that will go higher) 1 in 5 people who get the virus will have severe symptoms. 20% will get severe symptoms and 80% will get mild symptoms. The worst-case scenario according to the experts is 80% of the population will get the virus. There are roughly 327 million people living in America. That figure doesn't include the tens of millions living illegally in America. If 80% of the population gets the virus that means roughly 261 million people in America will get the virus. 1 in 5 (20%) of the 261 million who get the virus will get severe symptoms. That means roughly 52 million people will get severe symptoms. Flu infection rate = 1.3 – 1.4 Coronavirus infection rate = 3 [link to www.walesonline.co.uk (secure)] [link to www.msn.com (secure)] Now do you understand how bad this virus could get? I don't understand how you could be posting stats from the msm on a forum like this. Are you completely oblivious? The only thing we know for sure is that the msm lies and spreads misinfo, disinfo? Or do you think they would start telling the truth now all of a sudden. The evil monsters who own and dictate the msm grew a heart all of a sudden after all these years All you are doing is helping them spread fear. John has been an alt med researcher for prolly longer then you have been alive. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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Lance Roseman From BC
(OP) User ID: 77547432 Canada 03/27/2020 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to twitter.com (secure)] If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689221 United Kingdom 03/27/2020 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes on Monday, but grandson still working his boss not destroying his company for flu the factory still open. I'm in my 70s and not self isolating when half the country already had it weeks ago. I'm sure I had it wasn't normal cold/flu. Everyone I know had it this all madness to save few that ill anyways. All you have to do is protect those most at risk best you can and let the rest act as normal. you don't put the future of you nation at risk for this. my grand children will be paying for this for 30 years in taxes..I would rather die than put that burden on them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78689221 United Kingdom 03/27/2020 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes on Monday, but grandson still working his boss not destroying his company for flu the factory still open. I'm in my 70s and not self isolating when half the country already had it weeks ago. I'm sure I had it wasn't normal cold/flu. Everyone I know had it this all madness to save few that ill anyways. All you have to do is protect those most at risk best you can and let the rest act as normal. you don't put the future of you nation at risk for this. my grand children will be paying for this for 30 years in taxes..I would rather die than put that burden on them. [link to www.newscientist.com (secure)] This same guy did the fook up with swine flu got 500,000 pigs killed that didn't need to be killed. Borris should listened to his gut and not this guy he always wrong! |