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Chloroquine cure for coronavirus is a myth | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78572744  Australia04/01/2020 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. |
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 User ID: 78562356 United States04/01/2020 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. No one has proved it worked. If you have a source post it. Here is the study that started all this bs,followed by yet another study by the same moran. Both totally flawed with made up conclusions,ripped apart by actually scientist to the point the "study" was deleted from the only journal on earth that had posted them. [link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)] It does not fning work. The White House has seen the results from 8 days of using it in New York in a controlled study now...and it is no better than a placebo,and may actually cause more fatalities. Just wait the study is due out in a few days. False hope is all it ever was. If we find a drug that actually works you bet I will post it. This is not it. Last Edited by Otherguy2020 on 04/01/2020 05:32 AM Smokingman |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73565079 United States04/01/2020 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. It would have been helpful if: 1. They had SARS-COV-2 and 2. They knew what the fuck they were doing! The dosing of quinines and derivatives is critical! If you give twice the loading dose, it's likely to be fatal. If used properly, even the fish version would be helpful for a real treatment - if necessary. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78657851  Israel04/01/2020 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the same substance(synthetic version) found in tonic water, Quinine. "Part of the recent confusion seems to have followed US president Donald Trump’s announcement on Twitter that implied hydroxychloroquine and another drug (the antibiotic azithromycin) taken together could treat novel coronavirus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008805 The science around chloroquine and COVID-19 is so far inconclusive. Chloroquine and hydroxychoroquine have been tested against the novel coronavirus both in the lab, and in patients. But none of the studies so far show convincing evidence that chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine work against COVID-19. For example, the patient study claiming hydroxychloroquine is effective in COVID-19 didn’t use a control group. No one should be self-treating with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 as there is currently no proof they can cure the infection – and accidental harm is more likely if they are used in this way." [link to theconversation.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78657851 Israel04/01/2020 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. Israel donated the medicine. They probably dont care abput Australia because Aus could give a sh!t about Israel and has made that clear many many times. Actions have consequences. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78715009  United Kingdom04/01/2020 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chloroquine is NOT big Pharma and that is its problem as it is an out of patent 80 year old drug that can be made cheaply by anyone. The expensive anti viral manufacturers probably want it discredited. Check out these links for a reasoned take on it [link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)] [link to www.inverse.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78715009 United Kingdom04/01/2020 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. No one has proved it worked. If you have a source post it. Here is the study that started all this bs,followed by yet another study by the same moran. Both totally flawed with made up conclusions,ripped apart by actually scientist to the point the "study" was deleted from the only journal on earth that had posted them. [link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)] It does not fning work. The White House has seen the results from 8 days of using it in New York in a controlled study now...and it is no better than a placebo,and may actually cause more fatalities. Just wait the study is due out in a few days. False hope is all it ever was. If we find a drug that actually works you bet I will post it. This is not it. Two Chinese studies in the last month [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)] [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)] ongoing study at Queensland University just recieved $1 million AUS funding [link to www.news.com.au (secure)] 2006 study on use of Chloroquine with SARS by Dr Andrea Savarino of Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore, Rome [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78716343 Brazil04/01/2020 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. No one has proved it worked. If you have a source post it. Here is the study that started all this bs,followed by yet another study by the same moran. Both totally flawed with made up conclusions,ripped apart by actually scientist to the point the "study" was deleted from the only journal on earth that had posted them. [link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)] It does not fning work. The White House has seen the results from 8 days of using it in New York in a controlled study now...and it is no better than a placebo,and may actually cause more fatalities. Just wait the study is due out in a few days. False hope is all it ever was. If we find a drug that actually works you bet I will post it. This is not it. Two Chinese studies in the last month [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)] [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)] ongoing study at Queensland University just recieved $1 million AUS funding [link to www.news.com.au (secure)] 2006 study on use of Chloroquine with SARS by Dr Andrea Savarino of Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore, Rome [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] These are bullshit studies that don't have any rigourous scientific methods behind it. And small samples with few patients don't have statistical value. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77202143 Canada04/01/2020 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Part of the recent confusion seems to have followed US president Donald Trump’s announcement on Twitter that implied hydroxychloroquine and another drug (the antibiotic azithromycin) taken together could treat novel coronavirus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008805 The science around chloroquine and COVID-19 is so far inconclusive. Chloroquine and hydroxychoroquine have been tested against the novel coronavirus both in the lab, and in patients. But none of the studies so far show convincing evidence that chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine work against COVID-19. For example, the patient study claiming hydroxychloroquine is effective in COVID-19 didn’t use a control group. No one should be self-treating with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 as there is currently no proof they can cure the infection – and accidental harm is more likely if they are used in this way." [link to theconversation.com] It does not kill viruses and does not kill infection. It suppresses the immune system overload that causes viral pneumonia that cause the death. So basically this (and other) virus does not actually kill people at all. Our immune system kills us as overreaction. Weak immune system (lack of vitamin D is one part of it) cannot also kill enough viruses/bacteria so at some point it gets crazy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78535400 United States04/01/2020 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Published online 2005 Aug 22. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78715009 United Kingdom04/01/2020 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. No one has proved it worked. If you have a source post it. Here is the study that started all this bs,followed by yet another study by the same moran. Both totally flawed with made up conclusions,ripped apart by actually scientist to the point the "study" was deleted from the only journal on earth that had posted them. [link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)] It does not fning work. The White House has seen the results from 8 days of using it in New York in a controlled study now...and it is no better than a placebo,and may actually cause more fatalities. Just wait the study is due out in a few days. False hope is all it ever was. If we find a drug that actually works you bet I will post it. This is not it. Two Chinese studies in the last month [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)] [link to www.jstage.jst.go.jp (secure)] ongoing study at Queensland University just recieved $1 million AUS funding [link to www.news.com.au (secure)] 2006 study on use of Chloroquine with SARS by Dr Andrea Savarino of Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore, Rome [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] These are bullshit studies that don't have any rigourous scientific methods behind it. And small samples with few patients don't have statistical value. All bullshit studies at different universities in different countries? The Chinese and Australian studies are also looking at the patented antivirals Ritonavir, Ribavirin, and IFN-α, and Arbidol. Perhaps if the studies say these antivirals are great, you will suddenly like them, right? But if they say Chloroquine is good, they will all be unreliable bullshit....RIGHT? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63573762 Germany04/01/2020 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well that is simply wrong, Chloroquine and Chloroquine Phosphate have been approved for use as anti-malarials for decades. Are you under the impression you're reading things correctly? say it with me h y d r o x y c h l o r o q u i n e |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74410148 United States04/01/2020 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Part of the recent confusion seems to have followed US president Donald Trump’s announcement on Twitter that implied hydroxychloroquine and another drug (the antibiotic azithromycin) taken together could treat novel coronavirus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008805 The science around chloroquine and COVID-19 is so far inconclusive. Chloroquine and hydroxychoroquine have been tested against the novel coronavirus both in the lab, and in patients. But none of the studies so far show convincing evidence that chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine work against COVID-19. For example, the patient study claiming hydroxychloroquine is effective in COVID-19 didn’t use a control group. No one should be self-treating with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 as there is currently no proof they can cure the infection – and accidental harm is more likely if they are used in this way." [link to theconversation.com]  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63573762 Germany04/01/2020 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well that is simply wrong, Chloroquine and Chloroquine Phosphate have been approved for use as anti-malarials for decades. Are you under the impression you're reading things correctly? say it with me h y d r o x y c h l o r o q u i n e NOT chloroquine sulfate. hydroxychloroquine sulfate. 2 DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77164285 04/01/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Part of the recent confusion seems to have followed US president Donald Trump’s announcement on Twitter that implied hydroxychloroquine and another drug (the antibiotic azithromycin) taken together could treat novel coronavirus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008805 The science around chloroquine and COVID-19 is so far inconclusive. Chloroquine and hydroxychoroquine have been tested against the novel coronavirus both in the lab, and in patients. But none of the studies so far show convincing evidence that chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine work against COVID-19. For example, the patient study claiming hydroxychloroquine is effective in COVID-19 didn’t use a control group. No one should be self-treating with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 as there is currently no proof they can cure the infection – and accidental harm is more likely if they are used in this way." [link to theconversation.com] Hydroxychloroquine plus zinc plus an antibiotic. Not hydroxychloroquine alone. Hydroxychloroquine creates a channel through the cell wall to allow the zinc to enter and destroy the virus. So horse shit. You don't even know the protocol. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78647367 United States04/01/2020 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Part of the recent confusion seems to have followed US president Donald Trump’s announcement on Twitter that implied hydroxychloroquine and another drug (the antibiotic azithromycin) taken together could treat novel coronavirus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008805 The science around chloroquine and COVID-19 is so far inconclusive. Chloroquine and hydroxychoroquine have been tested against the novel coronavirus both in the lab, and in patients. But none of the studies so far show convincing evidence that chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine work against COVID-19. For example, the patient study claiming hydroxychloroquine is effective in COVID-19 didn’t use a control group. No one should be self-treating with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 as there is currently no proof they can cure the infection – and accidental harm is more likely if they are used in this way." [link to theconversation.com]   FDA approves the emergency use of chloroquine for COVID-19 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77164285 04/01/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, why has your govt. done a mega deal with Israel, who are the major producer of the drug to buy all stocks of it, and stock being produced until 2022? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572744 Kind of leaves the rest of us hanging, especially those who actually need it for it's intended purpose, and other like RA sufferers, who also use it to stem symptoms. OZ Dr's 100% proved it works. The shit those two idiots used was way wrong dosage wise and was intended for fish aquarium use FFS. Plaquenil works. No one has proved it worked. If you have a source post it. Here is the study that started all this bs,followed by yet another study by the same moran. Both totally flawed with made up conclusions,ripped apart by actually scientist to the point the "study" was deleted from the only journal on earth that had posted them. [link to blogs.sciencemag.org (secure)] It does not fning work. The White House has seen the results from 8 days of using it in New York in a controlled study now...and it is no better than a placebo,and may actually cause more fatalities. Just wait the study is due out in a few days. False hope is all it ever was. If we find a drug that actually works you bet I will post it. This is not it. Horse shit, the Dr in New York treated nearly 500 patients with the hydroxychloroquine plus zinc, plus antibiotic protocol. 100% success. Take your troll horse else where DNC operative. |
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