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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78126775 United States 04/05/2020 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh geez imagine that ... they told us it was going to be worse than it really is. Well I think we can assume that those Military Field Hospitals and Ships we be used for something else since the Corona Virus turned out to be another false flag operation. Cui Bono ? Wall Street, Bill Gates, Big Pharma and Father Fauci and his magic Bat Shit Crazy Show. |
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User ID: 69359666 United States 04/05/2020 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. That is probably hard to model at the moment. The models are only as good as the modelers. Do the modelers have an agenda here? It seems like they do for the most part. If they are promoted by the mainstream media, they are in on the "promotion" and serve the NWO agenda. When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
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(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 72273633 United States 04/05/2020 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. That is probably hard to model at the moment. The models are only as good as the modelers. Do the modelers have an agenda here? It seems like they do for the most part. If they are promoted by the mainstream media, they are in on the "promotion" and serve the NWO agenda. Exactly why I no longer trust Fauci. He has received nothing but universal praise from the media. That is a HUGE red flag in my book. Birx has at least received some negative press. If you've never butted heads with the devil it is probably because you're going in the same direction. LoneStarRising |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78690450 United States 04/05/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course it is. Going to have to have a week or two of 4000 to 5000 corona deaths to get to 100 or 240k deaths. Since about 8000 people on average die in US everyday before this thing started the numbers on investigation won’t hold up( no matter how many deaths they try to relabel as corona caused)...last week was thinking 65,000 total. We’ll see. This pandemic isn’t doing what the experts modeled. Good. |
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User ID: 77354011 United States 04/05/2020 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | our "governor" Carney said last week that hospitalizations are the most important thing to track well hidey hidey ho.... cause of death can be fudged, and often is... so deaths are unreliable case number reflects # of tests more than any other factor. As testing increases, it will APPEAR the virus is too! but hospitalizations..... with the empty beds we have, there is a TREMENDOUS pressure to fill them. hence, hospitalizations..... cannot tell you how often a hospital stay is pressed on patients who would do better to pick up and leave, or be wheeled out and leave..... things go wrong in big ways when you are hospitalized. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996178 United States 04/05/2020 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing about this is any sort of mystery. There is no history of how C-19 actually disperses within a population as it spreads and the modelling was simply based on estimations. They did not want to have too few beds or places because they did not want to be overwhelmed and unprepared. The actual infection or mortality rates are unknown because there is no historical model to base them upon. So for that very reason they had to approximate. C-19 is related to SARS and SARS had a fatality rate of 15%. The mortality rate of SARS was unknown until they had a history of it. They had no way of knowing for certain what mortality rate C-19 would have and it is not outside the realm of possibility that it could be higher than SARS. That is why they have taken C-19 so seriously. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77202143 Canada 04/05/2020 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing about this is any sort of mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996178 There is no history of how C-19 actually disperses within a population as it spreads and the modelling was simply based on estimations. They did not want to have too few beds or places because they did not want to be overwhelmed and unprepared. The actual infection or mortality rates are unknown because there is no historical model to base them upon. So for that very reason they had to approximate. C-19 is related to SARS and SARS had a fatality rate of 15%. The mortality rate of SARS was unknown until they had a history of it. They had no way of knowing for certain what mortality rate C-19 would have and it is not outside the realm of possibility that it could be higher than SARS. That is why they have taken C-19 so seriously. That’s why you adjust models based on results and if you see that you was wrong you dismiss them. But those “scholars” are still sticking to their failed models and failed treatment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996178 United States 04/05/2020 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing about this is any sort of mystery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996178 There is no history of how C-19 actually disperses within a population as it spreads and the modelling was simply based on estimations. They did not want to have too few beds or places because they did not want to be overwhelmed and unprepared. The actual infection or mortality rates are unknown because there is no historical model to base them upon. So for that very reason they had to approximate. C-19 is related to SARS and SARS had a fatality rate of 15%. The mortality rate of SARS was unknown until they had a history of it. They had no way of knowing for certain what mortality rate C-19 would have and it is not outside the realm of possibility that it could be higher than SARS. That is why they have taken C-19 so seriously. That’s why you adjust models based on results and if you see that you was wrong you dismiss them. But those “scholars” are still sticking to their failed models and failed treatment. How exactly are they suppose to adjust models for something that has yet to fully occur? This thread refers to beds as an example. How often do gatherings/events run out of seats or on the other hand have a lot of seats left over? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77674393 United States 04/05/2020 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ITS ALL FAKE - [link to www.westernjournal.com (secure)] HOSPITALS GETTING PAID TO INFLATE #s DONT LET BILL GATES WIN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78514527 United States 04/05/2020 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jan 14, WHO declared no evidence of human-to-human transmission of virus. Quoting: HO LEE FUKK - Jan 21, Dr. Fauci makes this statement about the Coronavirus: "“This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” - Jan 23, At an emergency committee convened by the World Health Organization, the WHO says that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern. - Jan 28, Chinese President Xi Jinping meets with WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom in Beijing. At the meeting, Xi and the WHO agree to send a team of international experts, including US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention staff, to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak. - Jan 29, The White House announces the formation of a new task force that will help monitor and contain the spread of the virus. - Jan 31, Trump bans travel from Wuhan, press cites "experts" claiming it is counterproductive. - Feb 1, Florence holds "Hug a Chinese Person Day". - Feb 4, President Trump dedicates part of State of the Union Address to the Coronavirus issue. Nancy Pelosi tore up her copy of this address on national television. - Feb 9, NYC holds Chinatown parade with assurances of no danger from the mayor - Feb 23, 1st evidence of community transfer within U.S. - Feb 24, Pelosi says to shop more: "‘Come to Chinatown ... come join us" - Feb 25, Mardi Gras was held with few people sounding warnings - Feb 26, Pence takes over task force, daily briefings begin. - March 1, just 42 confirmed cases in U.S. - March 3, NYC mayor encourages New Yorkers to go to the movies. - March 5, NYC mayor rides the subway to assure people it is safe to do so. - March 11, WHO acknowledged a pandemic scale virus on March 11 Feel free to post this on Facebook or anywhere else. All dates have been checked for accuracy. There's more to this. The corrupt media said it was fine to go out and called Trump a racist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78748751 Norway 04/05/2020 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jan 14, WHO declared no evidence of human-to-human transmission of virus. Quoting: HO LEE FUKK - Jan 21, Dr. Fauci makes this statement about the Coronavirus: "“This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” - Jan 23, At an emergency committee convened by the World Health Organization, the WHO says that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern. - Jan 28, Chinese President Xi Jinping meets with WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom in Beijing. At the meeting, Xi and the WHO agree to send a team of international experts, including US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention staff, to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak. - Jan 29, The White House announces the formation of a new task force that will help monitor and contain the spread of the virus. - Jan 31, Trump bans travel from Wuhan, press cites "experts" claiming it is counterproductive. - Feb 1, Florence holds "Hug a Chinese Person Day". - Feb 4, President Trump dedicates part of State of the Union Address to the Coronavirus issue. Nancy Pelosi tore up her copy of this address on national television. - Feb 9, NYC holds Chinatown parade with assurances of no danger from the mayor - Feb 23, 1st evidence of community transfer within U.S. - Feb 24, Pelosi says to shop more: "‘Come to Chinatown ... come join us" - Feb 25, Mardi Gras was held with few people sounding warnings - Feb 26, Pence takes over task force, daily briefings begin. - March 1, just 42 confirmed cases in U.S. - March 3, NYC mayor encourages New Yorkers to go to the movies. - March 5, NYC mayor rides the subway to assure people it is safe to do so. - March 11, WHO acknowledged a pandemic scale virus on March 11 Feel free to post this on Facebook or anywhere else. All dates have been checked for accuracy. There's more to this. The corrupt media said it was fine to go out and called Trump a racist. And now he is to slow.....nothing is ever good enough when Saul Alinsky is your God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537041 United States 04/05/2020 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True numbers of Americans hospitalized with coronavirus appear to be tens of thousands lower than model's projections. Quoting: LoneStarRising A Web site that tracks actual hospital beds in use suggests the model used by top White House health officials to project the trajectory of the coronavirus has so far overestimated the number of Americans hospitalized by the disease by tens of thousands. Those projections, popularly known as the "Murray" model after the model's lead author, University of Washington professor Christopher Murray, were explicitly cited by Dr. Deborah Birx, the response coordinator for the White House's Coronavirus Task Force, at a press conference in the last week. Birx told reporters that Murray's model, which predicts a shortage of tens of thousands of hospital beds throughout the country by the middle of April, underscored the task force's "concern that we had with the growing number of potential fatalities" based on the model's projections. Yet a comparison of actual hospitalized patients by state and nationally suggests the model has so far overestimated the number of beds needed to treat pandemic patients. The forecast predicted, for example, that the United States would need around 164,750 hospital beds for COVID-19 patients on Saturday. Yet the COVID Tracking Project, a team of journalists and data analysts who collect and tabulate coronavirus data from state tallies around the country, reported only around 22,158 currently hospitalized coronavirus patients nationwide on Saturday. The discrepancies are also stark when looked at on a state-by-state basis. The model estimated that 65,434 patients would need hospital beds in New York State on Friday. In reality, there were 15,905 hospitalizations in that state by Sunday morning, according to the COVID Tracking Project. [link to justthenews.com (secure)] Perhaps those models were made without mitigation efforts put in place or assuming mitigation methods would not be enough. Idk. I guess if the WH wanted scientists who KNEW WITHOUT A DOUBT that THEIR MODELS WERE CORRECT, he should have asked the CLIMATE SCIENTISTS for their model! Let this be a lesson to all people who believe in computer generated models. |