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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68972474 Australia 04/11/2020 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing that really gives it all away. Watch the press conferences. A crowded room. All sitting together... NO masks.. NO social distancing. On ANYONE in that room. All the yes men crowd around the platform behind the president. All the "experts" on how DOOMY this virus is.. NONE wearing masks.. All breathing all over eachother. And the president himself.. NO mask...breathing all over the crowded press..also wearing NO MASKS. So..to anyone with half a brain...its OBVIOUS NONE OF THEM BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF THE BULLSHIT THEY ARE COMMANDING US TO BELIEVE. |
chrion777
User ID: 78283975 United States 04/11/2020 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its all bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68972474 One thing that really gives it all away. Watch the press conferences. A crowded room. All sitting together... NO masks.. NO social distancing. On ANYONE in that room. All the yes men crowd around the platform behind the president. All the "experts" on how DOOMY this virus is.. NONE wearing masks.. All breathing all over eachother. And the president himself.. NO mask...breathing all over the crowded press..also wearing NO MASKS. So..to anyone with half a brain...its OBVIOUS NONE OF THEM BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF THE BULLSHIT THEY ARE COMMANDING US TO BELIEVE. There individual risk is low; Collectively the risk is high. In other words, the President can get away with not wearing a mask, because everyone else is social distancing, staying at home and wearing a mask. This is like when one person is speeding; but if everyone did it at the same time it would be a big accident. They don't explain it like that on TV because then everyone would think it didn't apply to them. Besides, press was cut in half and they are distancing. President is not wearing a mask because that is bad optics; as he said - nobody wants to see him talk with a mask. |
chrion777
User ID: 78283975 United States 04/11/2020 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t understand the benefit of flattening the curve. If you flatten it due to restriction, then it will go back up once you lift the restrictions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78468662 This all started with one person in Wuhan. So if you reopen things, there will be exponential growth so long as even one person has the virus and spreads it. It will never go down, there will always be exponential spread. This explains it best... The Hammer and The Dance. Best read on the virus and the curve. [link to medium.com (secure)] Basically, once you are done with mitigations (the hammer) you go on to do "the dance", which relies on heavy testing and contact tracing. This is how we treat Measles today for example and it is very effective. The mitigation is supposed to get rid of most of the 'community spread'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77562398 United States 04/11/2020 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flattening the curve is only about limiting the cases going to the hospitals. Once the current isolation curve is "flattened", they will open up business again. Hospitals will explode with new cases within 2-3 weeks. Then they will go full lockdown again to flatten the curve again. It is only over once everyone has had it, and then not even really. It will keep coming back for everyone who had it, just like the herpes and aids (same segments). That is why the governments are suiciding themselves. They knew all of this in October. We on GLP knew in January. Planet earth, via people or ET, has had it's fill of humans. At least the dinos got a light show - we get nothing. |
Mr.Borg
User ID: 77738927 Brazil 04/11/2020 04:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t understand the benefit of flattening the curve. If you flatten it due to restriction, then it will go back up once you lift the restrictions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78468662 This all started with one person in Wuhan. So if you reopen things, there will be exponential growth so long as even one person has the virus and spreads it. It will never go down, there will always be exponential spread. We all will catch the virus at some point. The business of flattening the curve and making sure that contagions do not happen too fast and thus buy some time for the health system. 8% of the population dies from the virus, if all those who need hospital care have beds. 20% need some level of hospital care. 82% escape the virus but will face a collapsed society. Being realistic, 97.93% of the population will not be here in 2025. Being optimistic, some 20% survive the years but live like cockroaches. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78775083 Australia 04/11/2020 04:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t understand the benefit of flattening the curve. If you flatten it due to restriction, then it will go back up once you lift the restrictions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78468662 This all started with one person in Wuhan. So if you reopen things, there will be exponential growth so long as even one person has the virus and spreads it. It will never go down, there will always be exponential spread. This is what I have been saying all along. These lockdowns are really quite pointless. We will see wave 2 and wave 3 and wave 4 etc. etc. Every time we will go into lockdown. Then lift back up, it will spread like wildfire, then we go into lockdown again, lift back up, spreads again. Again and again and again. Lockdowns would have been pretty useful at containment during the very beginning of all of this - as in months ago. But now it is pointless. There probably would not even be a second wave of this if not for the current lockdowns. As horrible as it sounds, the right thing to do last month was to let this pass through us. The pandemic would have been almost over by now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78775083 Australia 04/11/2020 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the coming years of on and off lockdowns in which our economy will be irreversibly ruined, we will ultimately see more sick people and therefore more deaths than we would have done if we had done nothing at all. Because we are extending the illness. And I guarantee that infected people HAVE been to your grocery store and HAVE touched surfaces that you have touched. These lockdowns are only to benefit the lacking health system, which is only the way it is because the Government funded a million pointless things and did nothing to prepare the system for a pandemic. Our only hope lies in the fact this thing has probably been in our countries for a lot longer than "the experts" are banking on. For instance, here in Australia, there is no way that with all of the people traveling to and from China since the outbreak began there, that we only started getting cases last month. No way in hell. More than a couple of people I know got sick this Summer and they never get sick in the Summer, and they were sick like dogs. It's been here. And that - not the social distancing - could be why we are doing better here. When they ease the restrictions, however, Australia could easily become the worst case in the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76837266 Australia 04/11/2020 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU don't understand that they have had to come up with a better and more creative way to communicate because you have them against the rungs of the 'belt that fucker ring'.... every country that echoed that same fucking sentence, is planning and talking above your heads....about YOUR future....and they never had permission to do so....from the first instance of any such thing.... take that as you will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76837266 Australia 04/11/2020 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For instance, here in Australia, there is no way that with all of the people traveling to and from China since the outbreak began there, that we only started getting cases last month. No way in hell. More than a couple of people I know got sick this Summer and they never get sick in the Summer, and they were sick like dogs. It's been here. And that - not the social distancing - could be why we are doing better here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78775083 You are mostly full of shit most of the time…. you should work on that in your spare time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76837266 Australia 04/11/2020 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU don't understand that they have had to come up with a better and more creative way to communicate because you have them against the rungs of the 'belt that fucker ring'.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76837266 every country that echoed that same fucking sentence, is planning and talking above your heads....about YOUR future....and they never had permission to do so....from the first instance of any such thing.... take that as you will. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78765358 United States 04/11/2020 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t understand the benefit of flattening the curve. If you flatten it due to restriction, then it will go back up once you lift the restrictions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78468662 This all started with one person in Wuhan. So if you reopen things, there will be exponential growth so long as even one person has the virus and spreads it. It will never go down, there will always be exponential spread. They picked a cold virus as their panic vector because cold viruses can never truly be contained. In case you haven't figured it out by now, the lockdowns are never going to be lifted and the economic destruction is now permanent. There was an opportunity two weeks ago for any remaining patriots within the military, law enforcement and intelligence communities to act and stop what was happening but sadly, that window has passed and the Tryannical control is now permanently in place. Trump understands this which is why he just stands up there during his press conferences with that deer in the headlights look on his face. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74890043 United States 04/11/2020 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Had this exact same thought today It all started with One One person had it, now the whole world. Now millions have it, and were going to put it back in the bottle now? Inanity You cant shovel the shit back in the horse |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78765358 United States 04/11/2020 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Had this exact same thought today Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74890043 It all started with One One person had it, now the whole world. Now millions have it, and were going to put it back in the bottle now? Inanity You cant shovel the shit back in the horse Anyone who thinks this virus originated with one person in Wuhan is drunk on Government kool aid. This virus, like every seasonal flu virus, is present in every human body 365 days a year. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78650317 United Kingdom 04/11/2020 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t understand the benefit of flattening the curve. If you flatten it due to restriction, then it will go back up once you lift the restrictions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78468662 This all started with one person in Wuhan. So if you reopen things, there will be exponential growth so long as even one person has the virus and spreads it. It will never go down, there will always be exponential spread. We all will catch the virus at some point. The business of flattening the curve and making sure that contagions do not happen too fast and thus buy some time for the health system. 8% of the population dies from the virus, if all those who need hospital care have beds. 20% need some level of hospital care. 82% escape the virus but will face a collapsed society. Being realistic, 97.93% of the population will not be here in 2025. Being optimistic, some 20% survive the years but live like cockroaches. bollocks flattening the curve is to try and ensure that there are ventilators for those who have a chance of survival yes most will be fine and not even need hospital some will be ill and not need hospital a small percentage will be ill , need hospital and probably a decent chunk of them will die that's how this is playing out all over the world but if we are looking at pretty much 100% exposure over the next few years - which we are if we had that all at once there would be many dying for lack of medical care who otherwise might have survived which if this was allowed to spread and spread slowly will give more people a chance to actually be supported for those few days where they are gravely ill it gives us time to adapt - which we will have to do personally I'd be starting to learn breathing exercises and doing them all day long - until they become your natural breathing mechanism and thinking about how to prosper in a brave new world of our making we are all going to get this it will kill a small percentage of everyone- which is a lot of folk some would have been dying in the next few years , a tragedy all the same as life is precious for all and everybody deserves a fighting chance but some will be robbed of decades that's who 'flattening the curve ' is trying to protect yes , the elderly are going to be at risk of this until they die -fact but the younger generations will develop some immunity over time and life will go on but it won't be the same and that's what we are going to have to get used to and deal with how we deal with it is up to us we still have choices -just different ones including consent to vaccines and heavy surveillance or not I'd take flattening the curve and accepting this is a part of new life over vaccines and chipping and going 'back' time has a habit of moving forward I wouldn't bother trying to make it do otherwise |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77707478 Canada 04/11/2020 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its all bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68972474 One thing that really gives it all away. Watch the press conferences. A crowded room. All sitting together... NO masks.. NO social distancing. On ANYONE in that room. All the yes men crowd around the platform behind the president. All the "experts" on how DOOMY this virus is.. NONE wearing masks.. All breathing all over eachother. And the president himself.. NO mask...breathing all over the crowded press..also wearing NO MASKS. So..to anyone with half a brain...its OBVIOUS NONE OF THEM BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF THE BULLSHIT THEY ARE COMMANDING US TO BELIEVE. There individual risk is low; Collectively the risk is high. In other words, the President can get away with not wearing a mask, because everyone else is social distancing, staying at home and wearing a mask. This is like when one person is speeding; but if everyone did it at the same time it would be a big accident. They don't explain it like that on TV because then everyone would think it didn't apply to them. Besides, press was cut in half and they are distancing. President is not wearing a mask because that is bad optics; as he said - nobody wants to see him talk with a mask. nobody wants to see him talk |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77812377 United States 04/11/2020 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flatten the Curve could be more accurately called Prolong the Peak, because that's what it's doing. None of this is about tur virus, its its obviously being used as cover for something far more sinister. It's just a mild flu, bro. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76531980 United States 04/11/2020 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're trying to understand this as if they think the virus is the problem, it isn't, you are. We all are. It's us that they want to get rid of- not everyone, just the last of the good people, the free, the independent, the threats to their system and way of life. The virus was an excuse, not a problem. You're looking through the wrong end of the lens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77420690 United States 04/11/2020 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its all bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68972474 One thing that really gives it all away. Watch the press conferences. A crowded room. All sitting together... NO masks.. NO social distancing. On ANYONE in that room. All the yes men crowd around the platform behind the president. All the "experts" on how DOOMY this virus is.. NONE wearing masks.. All breathing all over eachother. And the president himself.. NO mask...breathing all over the crowded press..also wearing NO MASKS. So..to anyone with half a brain...its OBVIOUS NONE OF THEM BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF THE BULLSHIT THEY ARE COMMANDING US TO BELIEVE. There individual risk is low; Collectively the risk is high. In other words, the President can get away with not wearing a mask, because everyone else is social distancing, staying at home and wearing a mask. This is like when one person is speeding; but if everyone did it at the same time it would be a big accident. They don't explain it like that on TV because then everyone would think it didn't apply to them. Besides, press was cut in half and they are distancing. President is not wearing a mask because that is bad optics; as he said - nobody wants to see him talk with a mask. The president of the US? The Risk is low? If they believed a word of what they said, all the members of the Covid-19 taskforce would be standing 6 ft part behind the podium out of precaution and to set the example. And why do we have MD's, microbiologists, and epidemiologists coming forth stating, for example, they're testing for general corona viruses (i.e. includes common cold, Flu) and calling it CVid19... testing for Exosomes (a healthy immune resposne) and calling it Cvid19, labeling death's as Cvid19 without conclusive evidence or testing, etc. And the biggest question of all, destroy the entire world economy and lives of the world for a minority population, which will ultimately end up negatively effecting even that vulnerable class for which they're supposedly enacting all these draconian measures. C'mon man.. .God gave you a brain, time to use it! Thread: The Secret Neither the Left nor the Right will tell you [link to contendingforthefaithblog.wordpress.com (secure)] Thread: Papal Terror Today: The Origin, Present Reality, and Ultimate Destiny of Fascism [link to contendingforthefaithblog.wordpress.com (secure)] [link to contendingforthefaithblog.wordpress.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78775083 Australia 04/11/2020 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOU don't understand that they have had to come up with a better and more creative way to communicate because you have them against the rungs of the 'belt that fucker ring'.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76837266 every country that echoed that same fucking sentence, is planning and talking above your heads....about YOUR future....and they never had permission to do so....from the first instance of any such thing.... take that as you will. What the hell are you even talking about? This makes literally no sense whatsoever. |